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05:04:49 <Sgeo__> Do any copies of the old esoteric Minecraft world exist?
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08:15:02 <shachaf> ais523: So the nice thing about C lvalues is that you can syntactically see whether something is being copied.
08:15:11 <shachaf> That's the thing I don't like about ALGOL 68 style coercions, I guess.
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11:10:25 <orin> . o O (In the future, "crispy" will be a slur against genetically modified people, because of CRISPR)
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17:24:40 <kmc> shachaf: don't you love the options Notepad gives for character encoding https://i.imgur.com/rSB1x24.png
17:25:11 <Taneb> ...I guess the two "Unicode" options are UTF-16?
17:28:23 <j4cbo> “fuck the astral planes”
17:30:56 <kmc> let's find out
17:31:48 * kmc creates a notepad document with one character, the poo emoji
17:32:23 <kmc> "ANSI" -> 3f 3f (literal "??")
17:32:34 <kmc> "Unicode" -> ff fe 3d d8 a9 dc (BOM + UTF-16LE)
17:33:16 <kmc> "Unicode big endian" -> fe ff d8 3d dc a9 (BOM + UTF-16BE)
17:34:13 <kmc> "UTF-8" -> ef bb bf f0 9f 92 a9 (what the fuck, it has a BOM even in UTF-8)
17:34:21 <kmc> windooooooows
17:35:13 <j4cbo> msft loves their utf8 boms
17:35:50 <kmc> there should be a D&D game, where a character has control of the astral plane, meaning they get powers related to each non-BMP character
17:35:55 <kmc> that could be pretty powerful
17:36:11 <kmc> there are a bunch of hieroglyphs for egyptian gods and stuff
17:37:11 <kmc> where's my airspy hf+ :(
17:37:15 <kmc> wrong channel, but whatever
17:50:38 <kmc> answer: it's on the slow boat from china
17:51:13 <kmc> (shipped 2.5 weeks ago)
17:51:18 <kmc> or actually I think it has entered the US by this point
17:51:34 <kmc> and in the hands of USPS, so I may get it in another few days
17:52:10 <kmc> I wonder why "ANSI" gives ?? and not ?. my guess is it's because Windows works on UCS-2 internally, and the fallback-conversion routine isn't aware of surrogate pairs
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18:59:21 <shachaf> kmc: you can't quite blame microsoft for being utf-16 since they were early to the unicode thing
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19:00:23 <shachaf> you can make fun of notepad anyway though
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19:12:43 <esowiki> [[Talk:Lenguage]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60099&oldid=60098 * Ais523 * (+65) /* Practical problems trying to use Lenguage */ finish unfinished sentence
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21:20:31 <kmc> shachaf: I think at this point making fun of notepad is missing the point, you know what you're getting
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22:14:52 <fizzie> The "BOM in UTF-8" thing is I think what it (or some other Windowsy thing) uses as a magic number for UTF-8 text files, and it's sort of semi-sanctioned by Unicode.
22:14:55 <fizzie> "Use of a BOM is neither required nor recommended for UTF-8, but may be encountered in contexts where -- the BOM is used as a UTF-8 signature."
22:16:36 <kmc> UTF-8 is too good
22:16:57 <kmc> the only problem is (and this isn't UTF-8's fault) that so many of the single byte codes are taken by seldom used ASCII control characters :(
22:27:26 <shachaf> all you need is code page 437
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