< 1551484807 278408 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :building high quality software that can be used by people who are fighting the authoritarian state is a valuable form of direct action < 1551484811 880532 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway that's my opinion < 1551484818 271655 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1551484828 381265 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was more venting rather than trying to have an in depth conversation < 1551484836 776248 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your point is well taken though < 1551484842 691408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1551484870 3658 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk i think the glorious vision of, like, wikileaks leading us to a new democratic dawn crashed and burned < 1551484886 923100 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :turned out wikileaks had no political vision beyond iconoclasm and just climbed into the pockets of right-wing ideologues < 1551484907 298866 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-82.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: feel free to vent, but if you do it on an irc channel, sometimes people reply < 1551484980 960307 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-82.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1551485047 618771 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks b_jonas < 1551485052 896133 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't upset that PH replied < 1551485065 822667 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying, i might not stay in the convo for very long < 1551485089 123069 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is angry at software, angry at life, angry at herself :( < 1551485096 347058 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rapidly feeling worse < 1551485154 809464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like this is something im increasingly cognisant of, that even if you have an interesting disagreement with someone who is venting about something they are probably not going to be interested in disagreeing with you < 1551485164 624014 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :im learnding! < 1551485366 412777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :most software is p. bad but you can still make ok software > 1551485398 73180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60206&oldid=60194 5* 03A 5* (-41) 10Z3 operates in binary, so unbounded cells are not necessary. < 1551485452 782293 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( silence thine fine utterings ) > 1551485462 255245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60207&oldid=60151 5* 03A 5* (-141) 10 < 1551485499 259244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1551485567 522594 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Qutting < 1551485925 584115 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551486087 313390 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1551486089 62770 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1551486596 732735 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1551487006 540440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some libraries that you can pass your own functions for memory allocation. SQLite has this option, and Lemon parser generator can also do, and so does smallxrm (my own implementation of the X resource manager) < 1551487163 498054 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you do that for all libraries that use a dynamically linked malloc < 1551487272 984764 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only globally. < 1551487320 547625 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with enough hackery it wouldn't have to be global < 1551487333 785822 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, you will then have big problems if allocations are passed between libraries < 1551487355 941878 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can think of more pleasant uses of your time, such as gouging out your eyes. < 1551487359 427218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, smallxrm has the following function for initialization: int xrm_init(void*(*f)(void*,size_t)); So if you call xrm_init(realloc) then it will initialize everything and will remember to use the passed function for memory allocation. < 1551487391 78601 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, it's storing the allocator globally? Ick. < 1551487406 596299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taking an allocator argument can be good but sometimes I don't want to call any allocator. < 1551487419 575390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just allocate some memory for the thing up front < 1551487434 640759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although SQLite does the same thing (although I think SQLite4 allows you to create local environments too) < 1551487476 37547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You can do that, if the passed function just returns the already allocated data < 1551487500 600924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But then you still have to keep track by yourself of the allocations anyways; that is what TeX does) < 1551487502 175663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I need to make a custom allocator for that one call. < 1551487551 778887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the program needs dynamic allocation at all, then it will be needed, I think. < 1551487917 971308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1551488855 95628 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551489375 6552 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1551490479 127893 :orbitaldecay!44215aa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.90.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1551490575 120892 :orbitaldecay!44215916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.89.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551490583 418094 :orbitaldecay!44215916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.89.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello all < 1551490645 872251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1551490664 289709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yo orby < 1551490665 7394 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: yo: not found < 1551490669 418986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1551490672 19773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dobg yo < 1551490673 657708 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1551490683 479331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. mysterious. vysterious. < 1551490689 301194 :orbitaldecay!44215916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.89.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey shachaf! hey zzo38! < 1551490696 205816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1551490698 457706 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:culprits//c[uw]lprits lists the nicks responsible for a file or wisdom entry. Usage: `culprits FILE or `cwlprits ENTRY \ utf8//utf-8 is an encoding for humans to tell the time in symbolic processing programs. \ zork//Zork is like York, except for the first letter. Uaneb invented it. \ ravnica: city of guilds//Ravnica: City of Guilds is a city of guilds. “City of Guilds” is part of its name. The Wizards of the Coast Marketing Department: We < 1551490704 927573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1551490705 761919 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:Sell Anything thought players might not notice it was a City of Guilds unless they put the tagline into the name. \ co-np//co-NP, invented in Soviet Russia, is the class of decisions for which you are No Problem. < 1551490712 792691 :orbitaldecay!44215916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.89.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any other langs on the wiki based on dynamical systems that anyone knows of? < 1551490734 452263 :orbitaldecay!44215916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.89.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not neccesarily systems of differential equations, just general dynamical systems < 1551490738 371687 :orbitaldecay!44215916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.89.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :double pendulum, etc. < 1551490751 736988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? np < 1551490752 939514 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :NP is the complexity class of decision problems that are No Problem. < 1551490762 939351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? p < 1551490764 28047 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :P is the complexity class of Problems. They can be solved by reduction to NP. < 1551490774 621043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits p < 1551490776 287009 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän oerjän < 1551490778 706776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: itym reduction from hth < 1551491758 711721 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00fc578b5afd0db9e6.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1551492385 954649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no hth < 1551492667 638408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hth script has a silly bug where it complains about missing packages if i have hth at the end of the first message i post after logging on irssi < 1551492694 81327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/a/another/ < 1551492717 893744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot you have that script. < 1551492723 873708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it still not do /me? < 1551492730 548483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that message they're apparently loaded < 1551492746 772541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's what the s/ was for < 1551492798 867479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hth script hanothers a silly bug < 1551492810 817124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep!! < 1551492857 541184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hanother named after hanover < 1551492896 158566 :orbitaldecay!44215916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.89.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see int-e's interesting idea on the poolshark talk page? < 1551494332 120372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1551495315 121520 :TellsTogo!3ecd7a77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.122.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551495507 730895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the hth script do twh < 1551495566 689635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ hth$// < 1551495582 697669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also similar for a few other acronyms < 1551495626 664757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh tdnh twnh at least < 1551495636 176231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dogs howl < 1551495638 53372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dogs now howl < 1551495643 983948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the witches now howl < 1551495674 346333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah those are all < 1551495694 648952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not werewolves? < 1551495700 129130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make more sense < 1551495710 14851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just wolves actually < 1551495721 336638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make more sense < 1551495732 488898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since wolves howl and witches do not < 1551495742 291343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :werewolves do not even exist so they certainly don't howl < 1551495743 40283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure about witches < 1551495781 605878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they're hypothetical beings as implied by the "were" < 1551495973 788447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't those just past beings < 1551495982 148234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to arewolves which exist right now < 1551496471 523659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they were past beings, they wouldn't be hypothetical duh < 1551496482 991615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it's ambiguous < 1551498217 472161 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551505438 331195 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the singular of werewolves is waswolf < 1551505533 58204 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551506613 422943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: only with shachaf's interpretation hth < 1551506701 181689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would not apply if the werewolf were hypothetical < 1551506774 537646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1551506787 197847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard singular is "werewolf" which does support the subjunctive interpretation. < 1551506888 241729 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Ping timeout: 624 seconds < 1551508248 918087 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1551508275 180359 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508296 23343 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508325 201985 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508342 751298 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508370 191589 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508389 588118 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508411 870007 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508420 215592 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508436 221457 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508465 204561 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508482 957251 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508515 191655 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508529 761479 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508559 754936 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508576 389733 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508605 203739 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508622 992333 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508636 693846 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1551508649 793222 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508659 7971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: *cough* < 1551508669 610800 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508699 242980 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551508716 429843 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1551508964 807780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1551509095 216613 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551509205 261048 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan? < 1551509303 81644 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You appear to be connected via IP-over-smoke-signal. < 1551509338 698598 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1551510368 192053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: you stopped just as i was putting my finger on the ban button < 1551510390 107194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPOOKY < 1551510405 117809 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh what's with the kloeri spam < 1551510414 663834 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on eveyr channel I'm in except this one < 1551510471 941029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is someone making abusive messages about freenode staff again < 1551510551 710856 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1551510561 369909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care to click the link and find out who the target is hth < 1551510564 846565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w < 1551510567 49477 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:erlang//Erlang has tricked people into loving global mutable variables while pretending to embrace immutability. \ itidus19//itidus19 disappeared into a space-time anomaly \ angband//Angband is Morgoth's second dungeon (the first was Utumno). When the greater and lesser people of Middle-Earth together defeated Morgoth in Angband, they were too lazy to go to for 100% completion, so some evil spirits in Angband survived for a sequel, and Morgoth hi < 1551510568 384670 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had to make a channel I'm op in +R for a bit. < 1551510570 961860 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1551510573 427687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1551510574 235645 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:mself recovered and arrived to Numenor. \ life//‘Life,’ said Marvin, ‘don't talk to me about life.’ \ emacs//emacs is the weird brother of nano. < 1551510586 261981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits erlang < 1551510587 897497 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän Sgëo < 1551510597 16685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg erlang < 1551510598 607465 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :8481:2016-06-14 sled wisdom/erlang//s/./E/;s/$/./ \ 8478:2016-06-14 learn erlang has tricked people into loving global mutable variables while pretending to embrace immutability < 1551510600 56448 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The target is a decent guy who pissed off some idiot trolls, basically. < 1551510612 269415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "unknown mode character +R" < 1551510617 26021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I mean, whether the target is a Freenode staff or something else. < 1551510635 795815 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, it's not on Freenode; unreal IRC does different modes than here < 1551510645 357574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what was it we did < 1551510650 20335 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Former Freenode staffer, IIRC. < 1551510651 75214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you set this channel to be unreal twh < 1551510658 630636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: OK, but I don't even know their name. < 1551510663 909462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to click the link. < 1551510668 112373 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair. < 1551510668 280933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know it was a person. < 1551510675 410386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we silenced unregistered users, but i've forgotten the incantation < 1551510693 458827 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The link is for a distro. < 1551510718 996198 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just happen to know a bit about the distro and know a former Freenode staffer is a (minor!) contributor, and that previous spam messages attacked them by name in association with that distro. < 1551510902 194192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: +r hth < 1551510918 936472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That allows only registered users to join. < 1551510927 679696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is explained by "HELP CMODE".) < 1551510967 23411 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. NOTICE #esoteric :oerjan quieted $~a < 1551510967 104979 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +q :$~a < 1551510970 645413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to allow unregistered users to join but don't send messages to the channel, then maybe "+q $~a" will do? < 1551510984 323365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: found it in my chanserv logs < 1551510996 621334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(explained by "HELP EXTBAN") < 1551510997 366903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You log?! < 1551511014 872161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: private queries only < 1551511020 824385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow < 1551511023 898450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1551511026 249679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :scøw < 1551511050 719885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: irssi apparently does so by default for messages i send, too < 1551511058 552772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea how to turn that off < 1551511133 11734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my irssi certainly doesn't log < 1551512633 707366 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dgsxzfsnaeolhzrf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1551513042 211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1551513653 775360 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551516964 812989 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4b8e1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1551517971 730491 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1551519937 839872 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551521075 522659 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551522435 88783 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00b488094a99030d4a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1551523958 723266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1551526316 262466 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-75.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1551526459 775865 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT : < 1551526757 118943 :orbitaldecay!44215916@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.89.22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1551526795 242591 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.200.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551526871 418828 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.200.33 QUIT :Client Quit < 1551526901 325621 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1551526943 203413 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1551526970 611066 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1551527250 144232 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551527518 490290 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1551527617 651872 :MDude!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551528334 873363 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551528807 718299 :LKoen_!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a009d5f0bec31c46ef9.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1551528867 386148 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551529009 81483 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00b488094a99030d4a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 259 seconds < 1551529205 699721 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551529340 869542 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1551529346 854459 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1551531814 274205 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.200.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551531880 71892 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmkadisliuchmlbs JOIN :#esoteric < 1551534308 522174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1551536005 131030 :TellsTogo!3ecd7a77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.205.122.119 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1551536349 413664 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-75.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1551537560 586295 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551544007 196789 :LKoen_!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a009d5f0bec31c46ef9.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1551544024 69851 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a009d5f0bec31c46ef9.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1551544188 130985 :orbitaldecay!44215d4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.93.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551544195 958896 :orbitaldecay!44215d4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.93.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greetings all < 1551544220 561768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1551544225 419139 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1551544284 439596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you expect a MIX computer to do if the pattern of holes punched into a card does not correspond to any valid character? > 1551545125 25417 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Poolshark14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60208&oldid=60177 5* 03Orby 5* (+31) 10/* Introduction */ < 1551546149 502950 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1551547981 763650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you any good at computer machines with cards? < 1551548072 635070 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should error by lighting up a LED that indicates failure and eject the card < 1551548134 298102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that could do, but have you worked with such computers and what would they do in such case (if you have ever tried it)? < 1551548487 98276 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ive never < 1551548581 84475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1551548664 709755 :housecarpenter!~housecarp@90.252.251.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551550201 193194 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : > 1551551952 973200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Poolshark14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60209&oldid=60208 5* 03Orby 5* (+1175) 10Adding section on magic mirrors < 1551552071 359305 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrezhxausnvbppko JOIN :#esoteric < 1551552667 233164 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-173.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1551554323 230323 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551554370 18344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should priorities of noun phrases be assigned in a text adventure game, do you think? < 1551555178 618444 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-173.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbitaldecay: re dynamical systems, ais523's integrator language should count. https://esolangs.org/wiki/Analogia < 1551555255 191828 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what it means to assign noun phrases < 1551555406 858059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, you have "me" to refer to the player character, and then the magic diamond can use either "diamond" or "magic diamond" (the latter with a higher priority), and the police report can use either "report" or "police report" (again, the latter with a higher priority). But sometimes other functions may add a number to the priority, for example if you want to pick up an item, items you already have are low priority. < 1551555430 236602 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.200.33 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1551555454 545007 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh interesting < 1551555468 937664 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it looks over all options and picks the highest priority < 1551555481 317635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1551555484 610290 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uses priority to break ties < 1551555514 815904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. If there is a tie for the highest priority, then it is ambiguous so it displays an error message. < 1551556680 859793 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551556952 740129 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1551557015 427142 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551557519 906703 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/NcW0NJL.jpg < 1551557758 891024 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck momo. < 1551558038 986654 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551559810 568086 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrezhxausnvbppko QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1551560054 183404 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551560321 165165 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1551560481 417959 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1551562144 170481 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551563497 448894 :orbitaldecay!44215d4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.33.93.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: thanks! < 1551564637 271522 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1551564729 254727 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1551565340 794066 :Remavas-Hex!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1551565353 923464 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1551565363 911898 :Remavas-Hex!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas NICK :Remavas < 1551567005 341474 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas NICK :Remavas[AFK] < 1551567125 425189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anything been achieved by attempting to decompress a random bit stream? < 1551567176 242720 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551567269 176776 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551567272 95132 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unhuffman encoding a random bitstream would be randomly generating letters with varying probability < 1551567301 881522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although there is other kind of compression too, as well as stuff to compress other than text. < 1551567329 481033 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-173.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you could consider a lot of sampling algorithms, like what fungot does, to be doing that < 1551567329 769180 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i've browsed around fnord for at least a little bit of assembly. c's is, because you have not been able to do it < 1551567371 279599 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the wisdom of fungot. < 1551567371 443322 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: http://octiron.org/ temp/ fnord temp/ fnord < 1551567452 317157 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-173.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps it's more decoding than decompressing, because they needn't be particularly careful to not use extra input entropy, so the compression doesn't compress too well < 1551567530 167739 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1551567710 823092 :crzydiamo!~uh@ppp-94-69-229-62.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1551568215 386452 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1551568825 967655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Glulx assembly language? I am making "Game of XYZABCDE - Part II" in Glulx. < 1551568837 93053 :Remavas[AFK]!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas NICK :Remavas < 1551569132 932728 :adu!~ajr@pool-70-110-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1551569315 107631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are C++ coroutines so complicated and rely on an allocator? < 1551569457 32140 :caragata!~Florecita@77.209.25.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1551569528 378759 :caragata!~Florecita@77.209.25.138 PART :#esoteric < 1551569884 354443 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing they imposed some requirements that resulted in that. < 1551569905 838693 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like interacting vaguely sanely with C code that's unaware of C++ coroutines or some such. < 1551569940 440776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow they reduced it to an unsolved research problem in compiler optimization that should be solved in 5-10 years. < 1551569950 428585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the superpower of the c++ committee < 1551569993 359201 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is funny, when you consider that _C_ can get simpler coroutines. < 1551570008 431589 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's not as a standard language feature, but it would not take much. < 1551570042 582235 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by the way, IMO a new language that's imperative-y really should just fucking do coroutines.) < 1551570049 327033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, C++ isn't doing stack switching style coroutines, they're going for something more efficient. < 1551570079 868884 :pikhq!~pikhq@c-73-181-126-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allegedly. < 1551570118 750075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's what they were going for, I have no idea what they actually ended up with. < 1551570134 162731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd certainly like there to be a language that has good support for this style, rather than stack switching. < 1551570248 665359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any language that implements it well? < 1551570498 723727 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a4b8e1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1551570650 523353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1551570862 65061 :crzydiamo!~uh@ppp-94-69-229-62.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Quit: i just need to know if you are a man < 1551571021 511232 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is C++ coroutines is work? < 1551571071 220265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it's very complicated apparently. < 1551571150 979195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the spam in other channels from yesterday stop? < 1551571162 626872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose some kind of assembly language can have coroutines too, although Z-machine and Glulx don't allow you to change the stack. In JavaScript there are generator functions, which can be used to do something like coroutines, although I also wanted to have real stack switching too it is sometimes useful