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00:11:33 <esowiki> [[((?)?)?]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61585&oldid=61579 * Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn * (+13) /* Sintax */
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00:17:36 <esowiki> [[((?)?)?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61587&oldid=61586 * Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn * (+94) /* Examples */
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02:21:27 <esowiki> [[Definer]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61589&oldid=61493 * A * (-8) Fix invalid program descriptions
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07:22:41 <esowiki> [[Drive-In Window]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61590&oldid=60952 * A * (+339) Made a partial proof
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07:32:31 <esowiki> [[Drive-In Window]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61593&oldid=61592 * A * (+58) /* Computational class */
07:34:35 <esowiki> [[Drive-In Window]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61594&oldid=61593 * A * (-54) Simplify proof (the menu is useless)
07:38:14 <esowiki> [[Drive-In Window]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61595&oldid=61594 * A * (-38) /* Computational class */
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11:57:59 <myname> did https://morr.cc/legit/ already was discussed here?
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12:01:21 <int-e> I missed it, so thanks.
12:04:21 <myname> it does have a wiki entry, i assumed whoever wrote this also went by here
12:11:40 <int-e> The edits went unnoticed, I guess. No discussion here so far.
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12:28:03 <wob_jonas> myname: interesting. so it doesn't just store the state under version control like hackeso or wikiplia do, but the version history actually matters in ways that it shouldn't, it's not used as just a history
12:28:12 <wob_jonas> the only thing I recall that's like that is `list
12:29:27 <myname> i like the argument of it being not being able to be version controlled via git
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12:31:07 <wob_jonas> myname: it could be if we could just get http://math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/git-extensions to work
12:31:50 <myname> we could also use pijul!
12:38:44 <Taneb> I was talking about it in another channel yesterday
12:40:31 <myname> i really want to use it, but i am stuck with git at work and way too lazy to learn two drastically different approaches
12:45:21 <Taneb> Hmm, I had a probably terrible idea for a VCS recently
12:48:10 <Taneb> wDon't pretend there's any sort of linearity
12:48:24 <Taneb> Each commmit specifies a set of previous commits it depends on
12:48:47 <int-e> . o O ( seems to me you're reinventing darcs )
12:50:12 <int-e> Though the darcs repository is still sequential, hence all the mess with commutation.
12:51:05 <Taneb> I think I'm trying to use Git in a weird way
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12:54:45 <int-e> git is flexible enough to support being used in weird ways ;)
12:55:26 <int-e> Though I guess making a soup of initial commits and a single merge commit is kind of difficult.
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13:00:32 <Lykaina> making an octal-based language
13:01:35 <Lykaina> 4 octal "digits" containing 16 commands and a 1-byte payload
13:02:15 <myname> you need to be way more specific. so far it just sounds like you are creating assembly
13:03:26 <Lykaina> 16 commands is not assembly
13:06:02 <Lykaina> trying to figure out what the 16 commands should be
13:06:20 <wob_jonas> Taneb: welcome to the club. ais523 and me also have possibly terrible ideas for VCS
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13:07:44 <wob_jonas> ais523's idea is to write an entirely new one, and call it scapegoat rather than aivcs; my idea is to extend svn to turn it to a distributed version control system (with limitations)
13:09:49 <wob_jonas> Lykaina: 16 commands, 1 byte long operand? like https://esolangs.org/wiki/Viktor%27s_amazing_4-bit_processor ?
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14:56:59 <esowiki> [[Keg]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61600&oldid=61599 * A * (+19) /* Cat Program */
15:03:51 <esowiki> [[Promo]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61601&oldid=61549 * Structuresend * (+26)
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20:20:05 <esowiki> [[((?)?)?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61608&oldid=61607 * Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn * (+17) /* Cat */
20:25:15 <esowiki> [[((?)?)?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61609&oldid=61608 * Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn * (+61) /* Half adder */
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20:46:56 <esowiki> [[((?)?)?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61611&oldid=61610 * Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn * (+255) /* Code snipets */
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22:43:22 <MilkyWay90> Would anybody like to program in Turing Machine But Way Worse?
22:45:04 <int-e> https://github.com/MilkyWay90/Turing-Machine-But-Way-Worse I guess?
22:45:51 <int-e> tio.run is blank without javascript.
22:46:47 <MilkyWay90> Then how did you get to the github page
22:47:17 <int-e> by googling the language name
22:47:36 <int-e> or duckduckgoing fwiw
22:48:31 <MilkyWay90> Anyways gtg make it print out "esoteric"
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23:01:26 <int-e> Not sure about the "way worse"... it's stuck with a binary alphabet, but that's fairly standard. From a programming language perspective the fact that I/O is not interactive may be awkward.
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23:24:17 <int-e> MilkyWay90: you'll notice this is a slow channel at most times
23:25:06 <int-e> Anyway, I had one comment while you were gone: Not sure about the "way worse"... it's stuck with a binary alphabet, but that's fairly standard. From a programming language perspective the fact that I/O is not interactive may be awkward.
23:26:00 <MilkyWay90> The I/O was made for codegolf.stackexchange.com
23:28:30 <int-e> It's really more of an observation than a complaint... we have a few esoteric languages with no interactive I/O.
23:30:26 <int-e> Oh, there are more trivial restrictions: if the input consists of many zero bytes a program won't be able to tell that apart from an empty tape.
23:30:50 <int-e> (8-bit Brainfuck has similar problems.)
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