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00:08:00 <arseniiv> <int-e> . o O ( BABA is FORGET ) => actually, not so. I’m not even close to completing it yet
00:11:25 <arseniiv> <b_jonas> so https://odin-lang.org/docs/overview/ seems to imply that their function parameters have the stupid problem that python is trying to fix about now (but is hard because of compatibility), where you can call any function with named parameters, even if the person who defined it didn't expect that => is it a problem?
00:11:56 <kmc> you can't see it very well but there's a wire attached to one of those radios which stretches all the way across the backyard
00:11:59 <kmc> https://i.imgur.com/o6un6Bg.jpg
00:12:08 <ais523> arseniiv: it means that parameter names unexpectedly become part of your public API
00:12:23 <ais523> I think that it's probably best for them to be clearly in or clearly out of the public API
00:12:30 <fizzie> Heh, Finnish has that word too (fi:aggregaatti = a combustion-engine based generator).
00:12:40 <fizzie> (I don't think en:aggregator has that sense at all, though.)
00:15:21 <ais523> it doesn't, or at least if it does it's an obscure meaning I've never heard of
00:15:29 <lambdabot> *** "aggregator" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
00:15:29 <lambdabot> n 1: a person who collects things [syn: {collector},
00:15:52 <fizzie> Wikipedia suggests "engine-generator" (or just generator, with the engine part implied by context) is what English calls that.
00:15:55 <ais523> although "person" isn't part of the definition at least in programming, it can be anything that collects things
00:15:55 <arseniiv> ais523: ah, that makes sense then
00:16:17 <ais523> especially if it groups them in some way
00:17:50 <int-e> de:Aggregat *usually* a combination of an engine and a generator, though ethymologically its could be any combination of several machines?
00:18:03 <arseniiv> nice photos, now I’ll go sleeping
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00:30:50 <shachaf> int-e: i,i an inclusion-exclusion conclusion
00:58:44 <int-e> shachaf: how cryptic
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01:33:39 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63107&oldid=62366 * MilkyWay90 * (+2140) Added tutorial
01:37:13 <kmc> catchy name for a language
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01:59:12 <kmc> not really
02:00:07 <shachaf> there ain't no party like a turing machine party, 'cause a turing machine party don't halt
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02:19:48 <shachaf> Should password sign-in use SPEKE instead of sending an encrypted password?
02:27:45 <shachaf> int-e: Oh, SPEKE was patented until 2017!
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04:05:43 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63108&oldid=63106 * A * (+183) /* Partial Interpreter */ I have no idea...
04:06:13 <esowiki> [[EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63109&oldid=63096 * A * (+60) /* CHS */
04:06:59 <esowiki> [[EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63110&oldid=63109 * A * (+83)
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06:30:29 <shachaf> Can music notation be made Turing-complete?
06:48:30 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63111&oldid=63108 * JonoCode9374 * (+138) /* Partial Interpreter */
07:01:54 <moony> shachaf, there are some turing complete notations out there
07:02:57 <moony> but i can't think of any examples
07:08:14 <myname> well, you have more than 0 symbols, therefore it can be made tc, i guess
07:08:44 <shachaf> usually you need at least 2 cymbals to get anything done
07:09:26 <shachaf> unary percussion is not very common
07:09:54 <myname> iirc there is a unary bf derivate
07:10:35 <shachaf> unary bricks for unary brains
07:11:53 <myname> i mean, it's not elegant but you can be trivially tc if you just take the number of notes as an unary description of some program
07:13:27 <shachaf> what's the sound of one percussion instrument computing?
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08:13:16 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63113&oldid=63112 * A * (+12) /* Partial Interpreter */
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08:33:59 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63114&oldid=63113 * A * (+2626) /* Partial Interpreter */
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08:39:38 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=63115 * JonoCode9374 * (+4377) This is why we don't make esolangs at 7am in the morning.
08:43:10 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick/Interpreter]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=63116 * JonoCode9374 * (+5090) Made in two hours... watch this space
08:43:53 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63117&oldid=63115 * JonoCode9374 * (+25) Forgot a category
08:45:34 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick/Interpreter]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63118&oldid=63116 * JonoCode9374 * (+3) Fixed a syntax error
08:51:04 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick/Interpreter]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63119&oldid=63118 * JonoCode9374 * (+62) Fixed a few more things
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09:01:21 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick/Interpreter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63120&oldid=63119 * JonoCode9374 * (+1) Fixed a few errors
09:02:00 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63121&oldid=63117 * JonoCode9374 * (-123) Syntax change
09:02:25 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63122&oldid=63121 * JonoCode9374 * (+1) /* Truth Machine */
09:11:11 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick/Interpreter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63123&oldid=63120 * JonoCode9374 * (+51) Still fixing a few bugs
09:12:56 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick/Interpreter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63124&oldid=63123 * JonoCode9374 * (+11) I don't think there will be anymore changes
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09:19:42 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63125&oldid=63122 * JonoCode9374 * (+841) /* Examples */
09:21:52 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63126&oldid=63125 * JonoCode9374 * (+2) /* Hello, World! */
09:23:16 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63127&oldid=63126 * JonoCode9374 * (+3)
10:03:27 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63128&oldid=63114 * A * (-2626) /* Partial Interpreter */ I can't pop the queue...
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10:37:10 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63129&oldid=63128 * A * (+209) /* Partial Interpreter */ Nice, I did it in Python (partially)
10:39:05 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63130&oldid=63129 * A * (+78) /* Partial Interpreter */
10:39:56 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63131&oldid=63130 * A * (+71) /* Partial Interpreter */
11:18:20 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63132&oldid=63131 * A * (+504) /* Partial Interpreter */
11:35:24 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63133&oldid=63132 * A * (+33) /* Partial Interpreter */
11:49:32 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63134&oldid=63127 * A * (+143) This is very boring. (I hate BF)
11:49:45 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63135&oldid=63134 * A * (-1) /* Infinite loop= */ Oops
11:54:25 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63136&oldid=63135 * A * (+46) Examples are so easy to make. I have another one.
11:59:39 <esowiki> [[Curlyfrick]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63137&oldid=63136 * A * (+82) BTW my brain works the best at 7 a.m.
12:02:32 <esowiki> [[Talk:EnScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63138&oldid=63133 * A * (+68) /* Partial Interpreter */
13:03:00 <esowiki> [[Jungle]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63139&oldid=63086 * Madk * (+37) /* Nodes */ Include "wrapped" flag within node properties description
13:05:56 <esowiki> [[Jungle]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63140&oldid=63139 * Madk * (+0) /* Node arguments */ Fix not strictly accurate description of "prev" node argument
13:36:23 <esowiki> [[User talk:A]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63141&oldid=63103 * A * (+230) Add one
13:36:32 <esowiki> [[User talk:A]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63142&oldid=63141 * A * (-1) /* Write some nonsense here */
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15:09:09 <dog_star> shachaf: are you familiar with lilypond?
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17:40:09 <esowiki> [[Blockfunge]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63144&oldid=63143 * CraftSpider * (+5) Fix pipe char in instruction list
17:41:33 <esowiki> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63145&oldid=62855 * CraftSpider * (+17) Added blockfunge
17:50:05 <esowiki> [[Blockfunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63146&oldid=63144 * CraftSpider * (+1353) Fill out instruction definitions
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23:32:40 <Sgeo__> If NodeJS were to start fresh, would the stdlib use Promises instead of error-first callbacks?
23:33:12 <shachaf> who's starting it fresh twh
23:33:50 <Sgeo__> Just thinking about how... new it is and it already has legacy crap
23:35:11 <kmc> burn it down
23:37:16 <shachaf> how should i do simple cross-platform event handling
23:37:22 <shachaf> is there a good answer that isn't callbacks
23:53:48 <kmc> i do not know or care
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23:56:04 <shachaf> what is the deal with saying "i do not know or care", though?