00:02:18 <b_jonas> maybe we should organize something here in Europe instead
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00:48:26 <kmc> b_jonas: here is the complete repeater setup: https://imgur.com/a/dFi9fZK
00:51:05 <kmc> it's working as shown in those photos, however in actual use you'd want to position things differently, have the panel angled for maximum sunlight and the antenna as high as possible, and protect the electronics from rain
01:01:45 <zzo38> How to configure vim to not use a alternate screen buffer in ex mode?
01:02:18 <b_jonas> zzo38: dunno, ask #rubik or #vim
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01:05:45 <kmc> b_jonas: also that size of panel might not be necessary, depending on sunlight availability and how much people are using the repeater etc
01:07:43 <kmc> btw here are the insides of the battery box https://i.imgur.com/CJRWf5P.jpg
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01:13:12 <ski> fizzie : ooc, which Prolog book ?
01:20:28 <fizzie> ski: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/art-prolog-second-edition this one.
01:27:27 <ski> ok, Sterling & Shapiro
01:27:58 <zzo38> I read about a new variant rule for playing mahjong, which is "yami" rule. You are allowed to discard face down at the cost of 1000 points. If you do, opponent can try to force you to face up for 2000 points, but then, you can either make it face up or you can force it to remain unseen for a further cost of 4000 points. Even if this 4000 points payment is made though, an opponent is still allowed to call ron, and if it works, it is worth double.
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11:46:55 <b_jonas> `? fundamental theorem of taneb
11:46:56 <HackEso> The Fundamental Theorem of Taneb states that for all strings S, if S describes a thing not involving sex, then it is provable that Taneb invented the thing described by S; and, furthermore, that it is provable that there exists a string T that describes a thing not involving sex that Taneb did not invent.
11:46:57 <HackEso> It is rumoured that Taneb invented civilization, but this is false. It was actually invented by Sid Meier, who also invented cities.
11:47:16 <b_jonas> Therefore cities must involve sex.
11:48:36 <HackEso> rm: cannot remove "wisdom/Bézout's theorem": No such file or directory
12:11:24 <HackEso> rm: cannot remove 'wisdom/apostrophe': No such file or directory
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13:26:28 <esowiki> [[Ruined BASIC]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=63618 * A * (+1481) Created page with "[[Ruined BASIC]] is an overly simplified BASIC dialect so that it is not friendly to beginners. == Documentation == <pre> rem end: Stop the program rem rem: Comments rem Examp..."
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15:26:01 <HackEso> bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `python3 -cprint(4**4)'
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16:10:37 <esowiki> [[Rook]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63638&oldid=63635 * Areallycoolusername * (+17)
16:11:14 <zzo38> Did you see my latest story of GURPS game? See if it is good, if you find any mistake, suggestion, etc http://zzo38computer.org/gurpsgame/1.ui/wiki?name=Session+22
16:11:18 <esowiki> [[User:Areallycoolusername]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63639&oldid=61342 * Areallycoolusername * (+11) /* Full List of languages I Made */
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16:23:34 <zzo38> I wrote on a paper many made up world cards for Magic: the Gathering, not all are global enchantments, there are other types too. I also put in "when this dies" triggers for most of them.
16:29:19 <zzo38> Wall of the Worlds {3} World Creature - Wall (0/*) ;; Defender ;; ~'s toughness is 1 plus the number of world cards in all graveyards. ;; When ~ dies, add {2} and gain 1 life.
16:43:08 <b_jonas> zzo38: is there a world serpent that encircles the world ocean?
16:44:52 <zzo38> I did not write such a card, but maybe you will.
16:57:47 <b_jonas> dear BBC Norwegian Village, if you're reading the logs, you should know that you have now created significantly more language pages on the wiki than Ais523. you can stop competing now, he won't overtake you back.
18:08:56 <b_jonas> ``` swipl -qt 'T is 4^4, display(T), nl'
18:12:55 <fizzie> `forth : pow 1 -rot 0 ?do tuck * swap loop drop ; 4 4 pow .
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18:17:27 <b_jonas> HackEso doesn't have haskell or rust implementations
18:20:07 <fizzie> No. I'm thinking lambdabot takes care of all the Haskell needs, and maybe rust isn't *that* well suited for IRC oneliners. I'm happy to install Debian 'main' packages of small to moderate size on it though.
18:20:15 <HackEso> 1177:2012-12-17 <shachäf> mv zalgo bin/ \ 990:2012-12-09 <shachäf> ghc -hide-package base -package haskell98 zalgo.hs \ 989:2012-12-09 <ellioẗt> rm zalgo \ 988:2012-12-09 <shachäf> ghc -hide-package base -package haskell98 zalgo.hs -o zalgo
18:20:24 <b_jonas> fizzie: I'm not saying it must have it or anything
18:20:27 <HackEso> 2418:2013-03-12 <ellioẗt> revert 2416 \ 2417:2013-03-12 <Sgëo> revert 2243 \ 2369:2013-03-04 <AnotherTes̈t> rm zalgo.hs \ 986:2012-12-09 <shachäf> sed -i s/System\.// zalgo.hs \ 985:2012-12-09 <shachäf> sed -i s/R/System.R/ zalgo.hs \ 675:2012-08-28 <shachäf> (unknown command)
18:20:28 <b_jonas> I know you can't have everything installed
18:20:34 <b_jonas> HackEso already has a lot of nice toys
18:20:43 <b_jonas> > 4^4 -- let's try that though
18:20:52 <shachaf> <shachäf> (unknown command)
18:21:30 <shachaf> `` doag | grep '> (unknown command)'
18:21:33 <HackEso> 966:2012-12-09 <oerjän> (unknown command) \ 964:2012-12-09 <oerjän> (unknown command) \ 821:2012-11-02 <olsnër> (unknown command) \ 818:2012-11-02 <Gregör> (unknown command) \ 816:2012-11-02 <Gregör> (unknown command) \ 675:2012-08-28 <shachäf> (unknown command) \ 562:2012-06-22 <oerjän> (unknown command) \ 552:2012-06-15 <ellioẗt> (unknown command) \ 549:2012-06-15 <ellioẗt> (unknown command) \ 542:2012-06-15 <quintopïa> (unknown comma
18:22:58 <fizzie> That rings a faint bell, but no, I can't remember the details.
18:23:41 <HackEso> 11838:2019-06-23 <b_jonäs> forget b\xc3\xa9zout\'s theorem \ 11837:2019-06-17 <b_jonäs> `` perl -pi -e\'s/Bond\\K/, Queen Elizabeth the first/\' wisdom/p*aneb* \ 11836:2019-06-13 <b_jonäs> `` echo $IRC_NICK >> bin/flist \ 11835:2019-06-13 <b_jonäs> `` rm bin/wrlist \ 11834:2019-06-13 <b_jonäs> learn FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. It\'s
18:23:44 <HackEso> cat: 'bin/(unknown': No such file or directory
18:25:46 <fizzie> Spot-checking one of those, it's <elliott> `addquote <shachaf> U+2205 [∅] NO LETTER O ALLOWED that's turned into "(unknown command)".
18:25:56 <fizzie> Maybe there was a character set issue.
18:27:04 <shachaf> Seems consistent with zalgo.hs.
18:28:09 <b_jonas> ``` echo $IRC_MESSAGE # cheating quine
18:28:10 <HackEso> ``` echo $IRC_MESSAGE # cheating quine
18:28:30 <fizzie> I think it would be quite possible to reconstruct many of those (unknown command)s from the logs, but that'd be quite a history-editing operation.
18:56:15 <zzo38> Did you review my rdf-intfic specification? Maybe you have some idea of what the HTML-specific properties and capability sets would be.
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19:39:49 <zzo38> Another world card I made up is this: Electrical Accumulation {2R} World Enchantment ;; Level up {RRR} ;; When ~ dies, it deals X damage to target damageable, where X is the number of level counters on ~.
19:40:10 <zzo38> (Some of the details maybe should be altered)
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20:41:49 <b_jonas> when the Super Metroid TAS does the baby skip, it doesn't bother jumping over the baby metroid even once. it's humiliating.
20:42:26 <b_jonas> and of course it makes the skip look totally effortless too.
20:48:25 <zzo38> Will you comment the cards I wrote and/or to try to make up your own world cards too?
20:50:02 <b_jonas> are they in your textfiles (gopher or http), or only in that other place that you put them?
20:50:49 <b_jonas> http://zzo38computer.org/mtg/
20:51:45 <b_jonas> on IRC this time? I think I saw two
20:51:54 <zzo38> Yes, there are two.
20:52:04 <b_jonas> Wall of the Worlds and Electrical Accumulation
20:52:08 <b_jonas> oh ok, I thought there were more
20:52:43 <zzo38> Yes, that is all I put. I did write more on a paper, but didn't put them into the computer
20:58:14 <b_jonas> Wall of the Worlds doesn't seem too interesting to me. Electrical Accumulation looks like it might be better if it used charge counters or some specific counters rather than level counters.
20:59:22 <zzo38> OK; do you have other ideas?
20:59:55 <b_jonas> it is interesting though. I wonder if there's a plain artifact card similar to it, with only colorless mana cost.
21:00:23 <b_jonas> if there is, it's bound to be an old one
21:01:17 <zzo38> There might be, although probably not a world card. As far as I know, none of the official world cards (all of which are old) have death triggers, and also all of them are global enchantments
21:01:35 <HackEso> Magma Mine \ 1 \ Artifact \ {4}: Put a pressure counter on Magma Mine. \ {T}, Sacrifice Magma Mine: It deals damage equal to the number of pressure counters on it to any target. \ VI-U
21:02:04 <b_jonas> why does it have to be a world card?
21:02:09 <zzo38> Yes, that is similar
21:02:42 <zzo38> The world card will die from state-based-actions once another world card is played. If you have a lot of world cards, you can trigger them in this way.
21:04:11 <zzo38> (of course, Disenchant will also trigger it.)
21:05:12 <b_jonas> oh right, that's its only built-in way to kill
21:05:27 <b_jonas> so you need a clean effect to sacrifice it, or another world card
21:05:49 <b_jonas> I wonder if there's also something like Magma Mine but that gains a charge counter every turn rather than for mana
21:06:03 <zzo38> Yes, there are a few ways to do it, but you will need another card whichever way you do it.
21:06:11 <b_jonas> or gains a charge counter for a {T} ability and also requires {T} in the sacrifice effect
21:06:57 <b_jonas> zzo38: in that case making it an Enchantment actually makes it play better than making it an artifact
21:07:11 <b_jonas> because you can use global enchantment destroy effects to break it
21:08:07 <b_jonas> although in a red deck that's not so helpful
21:08:33 <b_jonas> but I don't see how it could be white or green
21:12:13 <zzo38> You can play multicolors deck
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21:15:28 <zzo38> I don't see either white or green, but other cards that have a similar idea (world cards with death triggers, and maybe enter battlefield triggers too) can be used with other colors; I have done a few like that
21:15:36 <zzo38> And maybe you have some idea to make such thing too
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21:22:19 <b_jonas> I see the "world" part as a mostly irrelevant bonus, but even with that, it's a good idea to have this as an enchantment that acts when it's destroyed. There are a few such enchantments, but not many, and that's no wonder, because it requires a somewhat narrow strategy.
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21:24:18 <b_jonas> Some of my white or green decks naturally don't have any enchantments, in which case I add mandatory or global enchantment destruction, like Cleanfall or Monk Realist. An enchantment like this could go to such a deck.
21:25:17 <b_jonas> That said, I think it's a bit expensive.
21:25:36 <b_jonas> But it's the sort of dangerous card that you don't want to cast too aggressively, because someone will find a way to break it.
21:26:04 <b_jonas> And the {RRR} cost makes it hard to play in multicolor decks
21:26:33 <b_jonas> even the ones that want to generate a lot of mana
21:55:40 <zzo38> Yes, I did say, maybe the costs should be altered
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