00:00:00 <int-e> shachaf: I got a simultaneous sense of wonder and disgust.
00:01:30 <int-e> IOW an experience almost, but not quite, completely unlike pleasure.
00:06:02 <shachaf> Anyway now Rust is importing npm culture or something. Or so I hear.
00:06:14 <shachaf> I'm sure it'll turn out great.
00:07:28 <b_jonas> shachaf: right, so instead of just pulling in the posix regex function from libc, you can choose to use the package called "regex", which only has like ten transitive dependencies, if you're the kind who can be fooled by simple package names
00:08:06 <int-e> shachaf: they have a cargo cult, right?
00:08:11 <b_jonas> again, the language is good, the dependency hell is optional, you aren't required to use those popular packages, you can just use any good old library that has a C interface
00:08:15 <shachaf> int-e: I like how is-even depends on is-odd which depends on is-number.
00:08:28 <int-e> shachaf: that seems arbitrary
00:08:35 <shachaf> is-number is a good package because it supports not only things with number types but also strings that can be parsed as numbers.
00:08:37 <int-e> clearly is-odd should depend on is-even
00:08:50 <b_jonas> they also have an xml package, reimplemented in pure rust, that can't read utf-16 xml files, if you like that sort of thing
00:09:10 <int-e> shachaf: I also get the feeling that you should stop browsing npm RIGHT NOW
00:09:45 <int-e> shachaf: If you want to get lost in a spiral of links, at least do it somewhere pleasant like allthetropes
00:10:41 <b_jonas> shachaf: doesn't javascript have a built-in & operator, so you can just do 0 != (x & 1) to test if a number is odd?
00:11:43 <shachaf> Maybe, but I took int-e's advice and I'm not going to think about it.
00:25:30 <arseniiv> we need an npm-fold way for an extraordimensionary esolang
00:26:53 <int-e> b_jonas: I don't know what you mean by "n+k rules"
00:28:11 <int-e> Hmm I guess the Wikipedia drama is more interesting.
00:28:44 <int-e> (this one, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram#Open_letter_from_the_Arbitration_Committee_to_the_WMF_Board )
00:29:57 <HackEso> enrichment center? ¯\(°_o)/¯
00:30:19 <HackEso> There's cake inside it. Tear it apart, rip open your companion, and extract the delicious, delicious cake...
00:30:22 <HackEso> Hello, and again, welcome to the Aperture Science Computer Aided Internet Relay Chat & Enrichment Center. Please enjoy your stay at #esoteric, because you will never leave.
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00:31:17 <shachaf> int-e: I want to use good software instead of bad software. What do I do?
00:31:42 <int-e> shachaf: stop using software
00:32:37 <shachaf> Hmm, that addresses the second part but not the first.
00:33:02 <b_jonas> shachaf: do you have any specific goal for which you want to use software?
00:33:14 <int-e> Find, you're allowed to run your favorite hello world program from time to time, but only if you promise not to look at the environment it's running in.
00:34:16 <int-e> You could also use this elegantly designed platform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etch_A_Sketch
00:36:18 <shachaf> I wish I could shake my computer whenever anything was bad.
00:37:56 <int-e> @google "force feedback PCI card"
00:37:57 <lambdabot> https://uibkaap.tk/Wo_Online-Filme-Download.html
00:38:08 <int-e> ... I won't go there.
00:49:17 <tswett[m]> I'm *still* trying to figure out how to process keyboard input in PCjs.
01:02:13 <b_jonas> tswett[m]: call the relevant BIOS functions maybe
01:04:09 <tswett[m]> Maybe I shouldn't have done that. :D
01:04:38 <b_jonas> you can't get rid of the BIOS, it resides in a ROM chip. if you try to write it, it just ignores the writes.
01:04:51 <b_jonas> just reboot the machine and the BIOS will work again
01:04:58 <tswett[m]> I got rid of the part that emulates that ROM chip.
01:05:07 <zzo38> Maybe the SQLite command line program should have a command to edit triggers by using an external editor.
01:05:15 <b_jonas> nice, then your computer won't even boot up
01:05:41 <tswett[m]> In any case, yes, out of all the things this computer is doing, booting is not one of them.
01:06:00 <zzo38> (Could also be used for editing the definition of a view or index.)
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02:18:14 <tswett[m]> The good news: I've managed to read from the keyboard data port.
02:19:17 <b_jonas> tswett[m]: read it from the keyboard interrupt handler
02:29:01 <tswett[m]> More bad news: the screen doesn't update while the computer is running, only while it's stopped.
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02:36:54 <tswett[m]> Well, either that, or the screen only updates at a multiple of 34304 (= 2^9 * 67) clock cycles, so that it happens to display the same thing every time it updates.
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03:49:24 <zzo38> Now bystand version 0.1 is released. Posting is not implemented yet, but other than that it seems to work as far as I can tell. Please make a suggestion or whatever else it is.
03:50:19 <zzo38> It is http://zzo38computer.org/prog/bystand.zip Do you like this?
03:59:38 <zzo38> shachaf: If you want to use good software instead of bad software, then write a better software, please.
04:02:09 <shachaf> How good should I make my software?
04:03:14 <zzo38> shachaf: As good as you need it to be, I suppose.
04:17:42 <adu> shachaf: Imagine that you are trying to impress E. Scrooge, and that every success if followed by a "bah humbug"
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15:00:24 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63967&oldid=63883 * DoggyDogWhirl * (+287) I'm DoggyDogWhirl. Nice to meet you!
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17:21:26 <zzo38> How to define a text encoding in Firefox?
18:10:25 <esowiki> [[DDR]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=63972 * DoggyDogWhirl * (+1658) Created page with "'''DDR''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:DoggyDogWhirl]]. It is inspired by the video game series ''Dance Dance Revolution'', and takes many of its..."
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20:38:45 <zzo38> I made a program "RADMML", which can write music in Reality Adlib Tracker version 2 format. (Reality Adlib Tracker itself is only for Windows and Macintosh, but RADMML can be used on Linux, too. They provided source code for a playback software on Windows; I was able to modify it to work on Linux.)
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23:40:34 <zzo38> Did you look at bystand and see if it is good?
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