< 1565396181 328480 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.157.166.226 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.5 < 1565396960 65607 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-45.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1565397011 366953 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1565399214 524319 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.157.166.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565399297 80655 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dooifelwmftwodau QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1565400091 358329 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.157.166.226 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.5 < 1565404960 721553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: a bunch of speech-related programs use a timescale where the unit is 0.1 µs (or 100 ns, if you prefer), and I think that might be because it's the largest power of 10 in which both (1s / 8000) and (1s / 16000) are integers (1250 and 625, respectively), meaning at the common speech sampling rates of 8 kHz and 16 kHz sample offsets are integers as well. < 1565406152 983829 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1565409601 843034 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine < 1565409710 582432 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565410040 504612 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565410228 286093 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds > 1565411644 934351 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Calamari2 5* 10New user account > 1565412095 945582 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65410&oldid=65331 5* 03Calamari2 5* (+220) 10Add greeting > 1565412156 958001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Barely14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65411&oldid=39230 5* 03Calamari2 5* (+12) 10Fix external links > 1565412189 676887 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Barely14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65412&oldid=65411 5* 03Calamari2 5* (+0) 10Typo > 1565412230 979620 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MinISCule14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65413&oldid=8428 5* 03Calamari2 5* (+12) 10Fix external links > 1565412309 943134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Numberix14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65414&oldid=43409 5* 03Calamari2 5* (+4) 10Fix external link > 1565412401 428276 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hanoi Love14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65415&oldid=43697 5* 03Calamari2 5* (+8) 10Fix external links > 1565412447 122524 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Spaghetti14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65416&oldid=30465 5* 03Calamari2 5* (+4) 10Fix external link > 1565412479 547180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Linguine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65417&oldid=43471 5* 03Calamari2 5* (+12) 10Fix external links > 1565413257 180804 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65418&oldid=65410 5* 03Calamari 5* (+188) 10 > 1565413312 357224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07EsoAPI14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65419&oldid=43465 5* 03Calamari 5* (+4) 10Fix external link > 1565413342 858908 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bubble14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65420&oldid=30445 5* 03Calamari 5* (+4) 10Fix external link > 1565414071 554310 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Calamari14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65421&oldid=64593 5* 03Calamari 5* (+158) 10 > 1565415428 331400 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Jeffry Johnston14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65422&oldid=30463 5* 03A 5* (+22) 10/* See also */ > 1565415440 536934 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Jeffry Johnston14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65423&oldid=65422 5* 03A 5* (+1) 10/* See also */ < 1565416682 723079 :MDude!AdiIRC@c-174-55-101-236.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) > 1565419582 953029 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Areallycoolusername14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65424&oldid=64480 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+1497) 10/* String Compression */ new section > 1565419619 289659 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Areallycoolusername14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65425&oldid=65424 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (-2) 10/* String Compression */ < 1565421501 225172 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565421699 500110 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1565422220 222961 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565422402 204590 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1565422648 471838 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1565424354 209554 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565424523 199528 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1565424569 685756 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07@14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65426&oldid=65117 5* 03A 5* (+2526) 10/* Computational class */ < 1565424899 629575 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1565425096 260935 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565427506 454982 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565427677 48959 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1565427699 216143 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565428930 548306 :andrewtheircer!6d5d711e@109-93-113-30.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs JOIN :#esoteric < 1565428946 964924 :andrewtheircer!6d5d711e@109-93-113-30.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi > 1565429927 340598 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Gamer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65427&oldid=65320 5* 03Gamer 5* (+29) 10 > 1565430103 923728 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65428&oldid=65409 5* 03A 5* (-6) 10/* Truth-machine */ Originally from EdgyNerd, then I golfed it. > 1565430479 422017 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Gamer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65429&oldid=65427 5* 03Andrew3335 5* (+511) 10 > 1565430510 971314 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Gamer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65430&oldid=65429 5* 03Andrew3335 5* (+6) 10 > 1565433904 183019 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TPLHBPTBOTEW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65431&oldid=59885 5* 03Gamer 5* (-96) 10/* Commands */ > 1565434472 605238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TPLHBPTBOTEW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65432&oldid=65431 5* 03Andrew3335 5* (+582) 10 > 1565434761 407612 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TPLHBPTBOTEW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65433&oldid=65432 5* 03Andrew3335 5* (-6) 10 < 1565436043 404432 :andrewtheircer!6d5d711e@109-93-113-30.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1565437402 196749 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565437621 497520 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds > 1565439251 423308 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Areallycoolusername14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65434&oldid=65425 5* 03A 5* (+389) 10/* String Compression */ < 1565439958 222688 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1565440615 51164 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric > 1565440827 867731 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bucket14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65435&oldid=61797 5* 03A 5* (-120) 10Make it look much less scary < 1565441303 657915 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565441477 51200 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98455.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1565442198 415324 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1565442198 563812 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1565443039 953359 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Areallycoolusername14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65436&oldid=65434 5* 03A 5* (+261) 10 > 1565443901 841117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bucket14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65437&oldid=65435 5* 03A 5* (+111) 10/* Implementation in C (provided output instructions just for debugging) */ > 1565443916 142111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bucket14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65438&oldid=65437 5* 03A 5* (+0) 10/* Implementation in C (provided output instructions just for debugging) */ < 1565446005 70394 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric > 1565448820 497367 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:JonoCode937414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65439&oldid=64213 5* 03Areallycoolusername 5* (+229) 10 < 1565449456 548079 :andrewtheircer!4d2ec205@77-46-194-5.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs JOIN :#esoteric < 1565449474 965864 :andrewtheircer!4d2ec205@77-46-194-5.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: eso supporting infinite computational power, code and input and output < 1565449599 276971 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1565452537 220438 :MDude!AdiIRC@c-174-55-101-236.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565454474 10182 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1565455161 750222 :andrewtheircer!4d2ec205@77-46-194-5.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: september 13th, 2108 is the earliest date for any smartphone to reach one million hours < 1565455314 238485 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1565455316 632784 :andrewtheircer!4d2ec205@77-46-194-5.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1565455838 788392 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zyqytzunflsbjgjs PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 🤷‍♂️ < 1565455839 910678 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F937 SHRUG \ UTF-8: f0 9f a4 b7 UTF-16BE: d83edd37 Decimal: 🤷 \ 🤷 \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER \ UTF-8: e2 80 8d UTF-16BE: 200d Decimal: ‍ \ ‍ \ Category: Cf (Other, Format) \ Bidi: BN (Boundary Neutral) \ \ U+2642 MALE SIGN \ UTF-8: e2 99 82 UTF-16BE: 2642 Decimal: ♂ \ ♂ \ Category: So (Symbol, Other) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ \ U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR- < 1565456572 372768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a NNTP server that allows downloading copies of very old Usenet articles if I know the message ID of the article I wish to download (even if no article number is stored for such messages)? I received a follow-up to a (allegedly) eighteen year old article. (There are actually at least six articles leading up to it, which I have the message IDs of.) < 1565456781 915445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about a NNTP server, but Google Groups (or rather, its Usenet integration) used to have a way of doing that. < 1565456793 55923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I can't seem to figure out how to do it any more. < 1565456882 993606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, if you know the group the message was in, you can search for that group first, and then when you have a group open the little down arrow from the search box opens an advanced search form with "Message ID" as one of the fields. < 1565457269 995155 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cwqbwdedbbjxuuwu JOIN :#esoteric < 1565458057 240185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Groups is not work on my computer (although I have once found one link that does work, except that it seem to try to hide email addresses), and I do not have or want a account there. Also, the newsgroup it belongs to is probably rec.arts.int-fiction (it is possible, although unlikely, that a follow-up message is posted to a different newsgroup than the original was). < 1565458088 819996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I want to download the message into my local bystand database) < 1565459783 160134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I have seen URLs linking to stuff on Google Groups, and I think a problem with it is that the URL does not include the message ID. I have seen other web sites also with messages from Usenet, and they don't have the message ID in the URL either, unfortunately.) < 1565462315 778389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Google Groups URLs don't include message IDs, one likely reason being that it's organized in terms of "topics" (threads) first. But each message has a "show original" option, which shows almost the raw message, including the Message-ID header. The one difference is that email addresses have been redacted. < 1565462328 469141 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1565462347 977344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an unfortunately modern-style website, though, so it's no surprise it doesn't work well. < 1565462473 724933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some messages from rec.args.int-fiction from 2001 in Google Groups, so it might have the message(s) you're interested in. I don't think there's necessarily a way to get the message data with email addresses intact. < 1565463690 973814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a header that can be added to tell Google (and other archiving services) not to mangle email addresses, in case the author of the message wants it to remain intact? < 1565464223 741702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One problem is that sometimes there is the possibility that many programs will believe something to be a email address even though actually it isn't.) < 1565464451 730901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is there a way to access the raw message directly by a URL containing the message ID (and anything else it contains remains constant)? < 1565464645 548486 :ranzinida!b0d6067f@176.214.6.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565464953 294595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think unfortunately the answer is no to both. < 1565466397 308201 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1565466576 913094 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565466867 866334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out. First, you prefix the message ID without < and > by "http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=", and then it redirects to a URL starting with "https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/". Replace that prefix with "https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=" and then the message can be accessed. < 1565467214 687951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I found that it is actually a double redirect. < 1565467603 534026 :lldd_!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1565468012 280763 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565468155 925643 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1565468185 553146 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1565468223 512668 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc108439-cowc8-2-0-cust785.14-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1565468223 547439 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc108439-cowc8-2-0-cust785.14-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1565468223 547493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1565468788 216173 :ranzinida!b0d6067f@176.214.6.127 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1565469780 762522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One possible work-around to the mangling the email addresses is to add a new header, which contains the information needed to demangle the message. < 1565469972 745912 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1565470170 766349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, to add "Demangle-Head" and "Demangle-Body". For Demangle-Body, it consists of a sequence of tokens separated by white-space. For each at sign in the body of the message, take everything between it and the nearest white-space before it, and add that as a token into the header value. < 1565470332 772265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Demangle-Head, it is similar, but each token is preceded by a header name and then a colon; if there is a colon with no header name specified, then it is the same as the previously specified header name. < 1565470347 705262 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xgyzoixhrimwhcqr QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1565470427 367770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this way, if a message is downloaded from Google Groups or any service that performs similar mangling, the original text can be recovered. < 1565471653 294562 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1565471957 519712 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.154.65.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565472524 362640 :lldd_!~atrapado@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1565472708 264446 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bucket14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65440&oldid=65438 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+1) 10'Derivative' was confusing/incorrect. ('Variant' meaning clarified by the code golf contest) < 1565473038 674735 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.154.65.142 QUIT :Quit: I LOVE CATS!!! < 1565474176 419784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, a new THREAD command should be added into NNTP, which searches for follow-ups to the specified message ID, and outputs the list of message IDs. < 1565476199 571639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long ago is the Earth spinning at (close enough to) the current rate and the other related stuff that the calendar would be usable from? That is what I would have defined the year zero as. < 1565477916 877393 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.154.65.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1565478808 391921 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.154.65.142 QUIT :Quit: mildshjgdoshgomdshqgqdsfghp < 1565480651 667518 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cwqbwdedbbjxuuwu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1565480943 733529 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-145-132-215.natnow.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. > 1565481484 106857 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=65441&oldid=65428 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+111) 10/* See also */