< 1571789318 973388 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1571789817 977032 :hppavilion[2]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1571790216 557088 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dpjhpahnrzbcfjjy JOIN :#esoteric < 1571790568 881693 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1571791834 620734 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1571791899 932493 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1571792128 19802 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1571792251 297019 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1571793583 870464 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1571794050 5977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: ? < 1571794143 124457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1571799802 987383 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dpjhpahnrzbcfjjy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1571800555 966136 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypvqwmjrxvztnuno JOIN :#esoteric < 1571804570 885770 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1571809298 881120 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1571811154 890736 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1571812355 343881 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1571812844 286135 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1571813603 19824 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ypvqwmjrxvztnuno QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1571814365 650168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1571814559 196069 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1571814698 236720 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1571814772 944481 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jnwrjreembpvreke JOIN :#esoteric < 1571815277 11015 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1571815955 124981 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1571825603 95929 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jnwrjreembpvreke QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1571833910 365265 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1571834005 670522 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1571835319 326526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1571835404 2433 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1571835623 226584 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: re higgedly, < 1571835625 642193 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rogue one < 1571835629 129395 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :rogue one? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571835632 196323 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, < 1571835748 962446 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -T "{rev}:{date|shortdate}:{desc}\n" -r 11915 < 1571835749 945484 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :11915:2019-08-26: `` set -e; slashlearn "spoiler//Don\'t give movie spoilers on channel. If you do, hppavilion may hire a hitman to hunt you down in real life and torture you in refined ways."; forget "rogue one" < 1571835780 24387 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: for a pretty long time, there was a "wisdom/rogue one" where someone says that nobody should give spoilers to that movie. < 1571835789 773674 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't signed by anyone, but hg log said that it was by hppavilion < 1571835804 811643 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at that time, hppavilion disappeared, so I didn't dare touch the wisdom entry < 1571835828 806149 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but later, hppavilion returned, I asked him about it, and converted the wisdom entry to a general one about all movies, rather than specifically about Rogue one < 1571835832 329349 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spoiler < 1571835833 584283 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't give movie spoilers on channel. If you do, hppavilion may hire a hitman to hunt you down in real life and torture you in refined ways. < 1571835839 609637 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the higgedly wisdom also refers to this < 1571835860 618841 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed them because I find it distasteful for wisdoms to have serious but unsigned threats < 1571835877 987372 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you threaten to send hitmen, at least tell who's sending them < 1571835900 194760 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg cat -r 11914 wisdom/rogue\ one < 1571835901 393012 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any regular who gives the slightest Rogue One spoiler shall be hunted down in real life and have their intestines removed through their eye sockets. Members would not be exempt if they existed, which they don't. < 1571835915 980620 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can check channel logs about this if you want < 1571835968 19961 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the name of his sled < 1571836097 893353 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(such an odd movie) < 1571836187 279797 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point http://thedevilspanties.com/archives/13421 < 1571838862 119708 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao JOIN :#esoteric < 1571838925 390285 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, what just happened to Violetta... < 1571839011 835390 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, "it" from a week ago happened. < 1571841463 497173 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :timezone offset change in the parts of Europe that have timezone offset changes in 3.5 days < 1571841483 231276 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow b_jonas < 1571841490 107990 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :er sorry < 1571841495 616249 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i am mixing you up with someone < 1571841505 575867 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you active in the nethack community? < 1571841512 586850 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: somewhat, yes < 1571841546 816029 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hi, long time not seen :D < 1571841549 656803 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some wishlist entries and bug reports for nethack4, you can still find them in the bug tracker except that the bug tracker interface is really hard to use, < 1571841556 79091 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah < 1571841556 954451 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1571841559 606127 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I have a total of _one_ ascension behind me < 1571841570 443377 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should really look into nethack again, amazing things have happened < 1571841582 652889 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to join #hardfought :D < 1571841585 344348 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there's a vanilla release or two since < 1571841587 535293 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough plugging now, sorry < 1571841589 8702 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1571841596 400134 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they changed a lot of things, I'd have to relearn everything < 1571841600 101396 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vanilla is basically better than NAO-3.4.3 was < 1571841602 14217 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is amzing < 1571841605 707831 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :figure out how to protect against all the threats that MC3 simply cancelled < 1571841627 687453 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first post-MC nerf ascension just had MC2 and it worked fine :p < 1571841637 60330 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the spoiler page http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva/nethack/spoilerlist.html has disappeared < 1571841651 926790 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was only a few days ago < 1571841658 983204 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spoilers are probably not up to date anymore < 1571841666 353476 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the wiki can't really keep up heh < 1571841720 276303 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: without MC3, do you, like, have to set your clothes on fire every time you're slimed? or prioritize on killing green slimes? < 1571841728 620540 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because being on fire sounds uncomfortable < 1571841737 426368 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to be a little bit more careful < 1571841747 890508 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair thuogh, if you are in gehennom, you should have FR already :P < 1571841754 710072 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really biggest issue is level drain < 1571841758 560513 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :from vampires < 1571841760 553246 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with the Con score increased easily with exercise < 1571841765 852408 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vlad is now the second-fastest monster in the game < 1571841780 479100 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't they also change exercise so that Dex, Con, Wis attributes are no longer so easy to max? < 1571841790 715992 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he stands on the upstairs, hits you, level drains you, then teleports to the upstairs again before you even get an action < 1571841797 722930 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1571841807 717953 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, but i don't remember anything specific for that < 1571841811 6578 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ok with vlad, the joke was old, I have to deal with some tough monsters for the ascension anyway < 1571841826 939558 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just makes it more awesome to kill vlad with a towel or rubber hose or whatever < 1571841835 617638 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i also like an actually strong monster in the endgame < 1571841842 676467 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lategame rather < 1571841847 85238 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I play as a vampire lord, so I consider vlad friends < 1571841853 465025 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have to kill them, but it's not personal < 1571841854 127371 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1571841858 139487 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh in nethack4? < 1571841866 911517 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :or with polyself < 1571841901 576837 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nethack4, but also would play that way in other nethack 3.4.3 variants < 1571841922 639171 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fourweapon bug is so awesome that I don't see a reason to play as anything but polymorphed to a fourweaponing monster < 1571841934 192322 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1571841950 247997 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that demon with six arms < 1571841952 507335 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically if you're polymorphed to a monster that has two weapon attacks, then you get two attacks with each of two weapons, and you can wield two weapons regardless your role < 1571841967 532766 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, amazing < 1571841968 893262 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the best polyform among those is the vampire lord < 1571841974 243782 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1571841979 640425 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :just no grayswandir for you then :P < 1571841995 651744 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a new variant called 'evilhack', which implemented twoweaponing martial arts < 1571842009 117744 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you are grand master you get a second attack as if you were twoweaponing < 1571842032 454904 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately a bug in that was my demise - the second attack would not check for gloves etc so the first cockatrice i ran into stoned me < 1571842046 415348 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the later vanilla releases fix the fourweaponing bug, or the ring nutrition bug? or are these now ascended bugs that won't ever be fixed? < 1571842066 577863 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to admit i don't know of that fourweaponing bug < 1571842084 569422 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, for some reason it's not everyone's style < 1571842087 145061 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring nutrition is the one where you dual-wield rings of slow digestion and take them off every 20 turns or so? < 1571842089 170974 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't understand because it's so powerful < 1571842102 933258 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :twoweaponing got a major overhaul though since 3.4.3 < 1571842118 482417 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand that sometimes you want to unpolymorph, or polymorph to something else, for utility reasons, but when I want to plough through enemies, I want attacks < 1571842121 216604 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not more like a proper second attack, not that autodamage thing it was in 3.4.3 < 1571842124 884306 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't get those natively as a wizard < 1571842159 822806 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my one ascension was with a valkyrie though) < 1571842172 667050 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew that you could polymorph into a twoweaponing monster and then you could twoweapon yourself < 1571842182 920097 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :again i am not familiar with fourweaponing or if this bug still exist :D < 1571842186 527212 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that sounds hilarious < 1571842193 550272 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I have a wizard game abandonned in close to gomode on nethack4) < 1571842442 419064 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, so how about hanging out in #hardfought again? :D you will meet a few old friends (ais523 which i assume also dwells in this channel, jonadab etc...) < 1571842457 918958 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you will see how the current development is and how exciting everything is < 1571842487 343333 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, in the nh4 tracker I have a few actual bugs (rather than wishlists) that I have hard feelings about, and in particular, vanilla worked around the chest trap problem the incorrect way < 1571842495 484345 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1571842508 32540 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: what the heck is #hardfought ? I haven't heard of that channel. I was in other nethack-related channels only < 1571842524 966368 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardfought server by K2 hosts nethack since 2016 < 1571842537 447176 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its the server where all the variants are now hosted too < 1571842550 195345 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that channel is a bit like 'the variant channel' < 1571842573 564579 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#NetHack,#acehack,#nethack-offtopic,#devnull-nethack,#nethack4 < 1571842580 457573 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1571842592 246783 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :#devnull-nethack is dead because devnull is dead < 1571842602 961188 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a problem, there's junethack instead < 1571842610 756113 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like I want to play unpatched interface < 1571842613 875257 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with bobble hats < 1571842616 378017 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and hardfought also hosts the 'TNNT' tournaments < 1571842617 684706 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1571842625 269493 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :TNNT is a replacement for the devnull tourney < 1571842633 923262 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. it will start in a week!) < 1571842660 611062 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the waldo power armor was awesome < 1571842697 716644 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you see rld talking, its an IRC->discord bridge < 1571842774 680455 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: anyway, I said that I don't know how I arrived to this channel, to which ais523 said that maybe I followed him here from #nethack4, which sounds quite plausible < 1571842791 805612 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1571842799 43879 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is the only reason i just joined too :D < 1571842806 803561 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are other possibilities, and I didn't bother to check the logs < 1571842812 473918 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in another channel, Befunge came up < 1571842816 570283 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs probably has the truth < 1571842845 761166 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc is awesome < 1571842856 354365 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of strange hackers aroudn :P < 1571842885 836226 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :in another channel, i found the developer of ARES (corewars) hanging out < 1571842904 331421 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ESR himself came online to talk about nethack < 1571842912 272139 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ARES (corewars)"? isn't ARES a library for non-blocking DNS resolving < 1571842928 799276 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :c-ares.haxx.se < 1571842929 353913 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://harald.ist.org/sites/ares/ < 1571842932 941396 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://c-ares.haxx.se/ < 1571842936 149084 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely is < 1571842937 763924 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ares < 1571842957 839202 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they stole the name? < 1571842967 82986 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ares is a very commoon name :D < 1571842971 565199 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't say they stole it < 1571842978 14523 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a greek god name among other things < 1571842981 910723 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1571843000 8685 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a name of a sharp tool too, I know < 1571843011 34533 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ares is something like 'another redcode execution sandbox' or something like that < 1571843090 582136 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the redcode stuff is named after roman and greek gods < 1571843095 66855 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is mars, zeus and ares < 1571843111 49796 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, enough channel hijacking, sorry for that v_v < 1571843111 803804 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope there's no "Athene" or "Athena". that's like the single most over-used name < 1571843500 73112 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: anyway, it's not likely that I'll return to playing nethack soon. I should write a bot that startscums an online server until it finds a wand of wishing on dlvl1 and then give away the game. It's not that unlikely, I could probably get such a game every few months. < 1571843550 131091 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: oh also, the 3.6 release seriously nerfs Elbereth, that means I'd basically have to relearn tactics from scratch < 1571843554 80847 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :vt_tiledata is now in vanilla, so i already wrote some node abstraction < 1571843556 939239 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way I could survive early game < 1571843562 473764 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have a startscum bot in node now < 1571843563 749824 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1571843567 185534 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will get used to it < 1571843573 483815 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll of scare monster was buffed though < 1571843584 907648 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also possibly a bot that tries to dig down as archaeologist and leave helpful bones < 1571843592 957016 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that is hard < 1571843602 382194 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it more likely uses up all existing bones than leave good ones < 1571843613 354900 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without Elbereth the digging down strategy is much harder < 1571843634 305831 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perma-E was OP you have to admit < 1571843639 173173 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't just keep digging on dlvl9 on a square with Elbereth and hope that the high level monsters leave me alone < 1571843651 76614 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: sure it was, but it's what I'm used to < 1571843653 144204 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you need ?oSM for that < 1571843766 355124 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: but (a) I have to find a scroll, (b) when I dig down, the scroll can fall to any neighboring square, including one where I can't dig down, and I can't pick it up, so I don't know how easily that would work < 1571843779 622142 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would I have to always dig wherever the scroll happens to fall? < 1571843789 93545 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it probably doesn't matter because this wouldn't work well in 3.4.3 either < 1571843807 647112 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah more or less < 1571843815 758295 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did consider scumming wizards with wand of digging too, but they have just too few charges < 1571843828 11950 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably stick to the wand of wishing strategy < 1571843843 10875 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look around on dlvl1, hope not to get killed, look for wands, quickly restart if there isn't any < 1571843844 587079 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, for dfv you basically need to go the mines and kill the first dwarf with a pickaxe < 1571843850 940118 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know about node.js ? < 1571843855 171074 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could look at my project < 1571843857 692041 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I find wand, engrave with it, wish for 2 bgf scrolls of charging < 1571843867 51955 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: no no, this is #esoteric, most of the fun is writing the bot itself < 1571843875 735674 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1571843877 732593 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I do it, I want to do it myself < 1571843893 28829 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like I would earn real life money from getting wands of wishing < 1571843893 591515 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then let me say that its easier than ever before because of aforementioned vt_tiledata being in vanilla < 1571843912 931766 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I did, then I'd farm puddings then unicorns rather then startscum) < 1571843918 995025 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have an ANSI-term parser, you have to just extend the extra escape codes < 1571843961 479040 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a short wiki article about the new vt_tiledata codes https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Vt_tiledata < 1571844003 106342 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: no no, I don't want to dfv, I just considered digging down with an unprotected archaeologist with Elbereth, die on like dlvl 12, but first drop my inventory (so it doesn't get cursed) and leave bones that help others < 1571844006 712439 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe just for inspiration, here is how a startscum script looks like in my nodehack https://github.com/stenno/NodeHack/blob/master/examples/startscum.js < 1571844019 54535 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a wizard, I'd also leave engravings to identify my inventory < 1571844047 783263 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wizards can't dig deep enough < 1571844068 930849 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :their wand of digging runs out before they reach bones depth < 1571844074 331181 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1571844083 434145 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 charges max i think < 1571844095 427225 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't bring you far considering you want down to DL 25 or so :P < 1571844103 35939 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want down to dl 25 < 1571844113 739570 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only want down to between dl 12 and 16 < 1571844161 79175 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not enough < 1571844936 992597 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1571844941 837799 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone will ever ascend Heaven or Hell mode < 1571845026 602342 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( What about AIs... the main point being that they can spend many human life time equivalents on trying over and over again?) < 1571845164 606491 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: by the time I left nethack, some people managed to ascend it with fully automated bots. but HoH needs new strategies devised, not just some luck. < 1571845189 251675 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, the game exists since 1987. the first (and only) bot to win the game was released in 2016 < 1571845207 553355 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and we enjoy nethack because almost everything has answers, so you don't need too much luck to ascend, only good strategies and tactics < 1571845208 711137 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, there has not been any other bot that even comes close to ascending < 1571845214 371834 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascending = winning < 1571845278 889405 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost everything EXCEPT FOR THE FUCKING CHEST TRAPS as I argue in a bug report, and that would be trivial to fix too, as I also argue in that bug report, although the trap system really should be teared out of nethack and completely rewritten, that particular problem can totally be fixed without that < 1571845285 777854 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/krajj7/BotHack < 1571845300 449888 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, what is that bug? < 1571845306 539739 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :torn out < 1571845311 771265 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: let me find my good description in the nh4 bug tracker < 1571845342 127720 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :YSK that the castle chest is now guaranteed to be untrapped < 1571845368 491473 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they found a way to make untrapped chests from the .des files < 1571845371 816371 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: https://roguelikes.live/nh4-bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214 < 1571845383 806864 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: yes, I know 3.6 does that, and I still say that that's not the right fix < 1571845414 603070 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I argue in the bug ticket that chest traps don't have answers, and in nethack, things should have answers < 1571845423 571542 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the chest traps that is < 1571845426 8959 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest do < 1571845426 133700 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know that an exploding chest would destroy items on the same square < 1571845475 150613 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know that people like ais523, paxed and bhaak are now members of the devteam? < 1571845485 779005 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stennowork: I do know < 1571846669 696921 :stennowork!~stenno@unaffiliated/chao QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1571847296 958866 :skyplane!uid399889@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hozfluifnrkodljo JOIN :#esoteric < 1571847297 37914 :skyplane!uid399889@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hozfluifnrkodljo QUIT :Client Quit < 1571847375 565479 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1571847495 680214 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1571847513 36499 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1571847736 402764 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1571847751 898808 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1571848145 537636 :skyplane!~AdminUser@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1571848695 664185 :gitlogger!~gitlogger@206.ip-51-91-102.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1571848750 925695 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1571848934 695496 :skyplane!~AdminUser@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru QUIT :Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1571848950 893020 :7JTAAVWO8!~AdminUser@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1571849023 330389 :skyplane_!uid399889@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sekdqeghmwwoypxo JOIN :#esoteric < 1571849082 96779 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :one guy wants to make a computer game with magic governed by a deep mathematical theory/concept, do you have something in mind to suggest? (Then I’ll relay it.) He gave https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/string+diagram as an example of things which would interest him, though I think there are no solid decisions made yet, and no conception in which specific way would it manifest in a game < 1571849147 502208 :7JTAAVWO8!~AdminUser@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru QUIT :Client Quit < 1571849154 669225 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :noita. < 1571849156 950477 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1571849166 838809 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :cellular automata. :P < 1571849167 989695 :skyplane__!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1571849270 652404 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: well, David Madore has a few ideas about that, see http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2015-05-07.2296.html (and the older http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2013-10-07.2162.html that it points to) < 1571849298 918413 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2018-09-27.2555.html < 1571849310 896540 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should direct him here < 1571849321 468283 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I don't think he uses irc < 1571849332 948405 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he has a comment section, twitter, and email < 1571849351 628750 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Stack Exchange < 1571849369 263671 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: rofl :D I don’t mean David Madore < 1571849373 944115 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1571849375 373466 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that person < 1571849465 938507 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I don’t know him at all, I just got interested and suggested tensory things to him. Then I was surprised by the coincidence: string diagrams in their simplest form are for monoidal categories < 1571849477 396533 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: but be careful, because we officially don't do the other kind of esoterism in this channel < 1571849619 164572 :skyplane__!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru QUIT :Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1571849635 392260 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1571849687 644168 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :всем доброго времени суток < 1571849690 290695 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1571849710 985388 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :может скажете, куда с этим: https://skyplaneru.wixsite.com/excessive ? < 1571849738 435899 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: eh, I was about to dust off my ouija board < 1571849739 205803 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :понимаю что в сообщество прогеров, но вдруг < 1571849832 486590 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :skyplane: я прочитал и ничего не понял вообще < 1571849873 451509 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :really weird text < 1571849877 326448 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :skyplane: это не место для какого-то дерьма, которое вы торгуете. немногие (если таковые имеются) здесь говорят по-русски. < 1571849887 169561 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heck < 1571849965 702829 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1571849982 144339 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv, ah yes, the ouija board < 1571850000 115455 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very useful while programming in Malbolge < 1571850086 385842 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: oh! how do you use it? < 1571850123 641222 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, first you have to sign the pledge with Satan < 1571850123 938905 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW I don’t really have an ouija but I can simulate it by means of a cat if I ever would want to < 1571850151 844936 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the following steps should be obvious < 1571850170 417918 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: разница в том, что я сабжем не торгую. от слова совсем. и указанная миссия - действительно миссия. З.Ы. с головой всё нормально. < 1571850202 319278 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :δεν μιλάς αγγλικά; < 1571850206 567439 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, speak english. < 1571850222 86900 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: не вопрос, бывает и непонимание < 1571850236 493925 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cmon < 1571850237 754138 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn it man < 1571850242 169791 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop, you've broken my bot < 1571850257 448369 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you have a bot in here. < 1571850274 560322 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to log the channel messags < 1571850281 713303 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :your client does that. < 1571850283 696740 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1571850293 110609 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are log files in the topic of this channel. < 1571850293 215299 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian characters are actually wide characters < 1571850304 153930 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, my bot is supplying one of these sites < 1571850312 62101 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? logs < 1571850313 191420 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric channel logs: https://esolangs.org/logs/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/esologs/ < 1571850317 714739 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one. < 1571850323 905223 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wide character in print at harvester.pl line 51. < 1571850323 981669 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric : at harvester.pl line 51. < 1571850324 17966 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric : LogBot::log(LogBot=HASH(0x55f49e95e340), "", "arseniiv: \x{43d}\x{435} \x{432}\x{43e}\x{43f}\x{440}\x{43e}\x{441}, \x{431}\x{44b}\x{432}\x{430}\x{435}\x{442} \x{438} \x{43d}\x{435}\x{43f}\x{43e}\x{43d}\x{438}\x{43c}\x{430}\x{43d}\x{438}\x{435}") called at harvester.pl line 166 < 1571850327 218411 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: the last one I think < 1571850331 732304 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : russian characters are actually wide characters => wait why, how < 1571850351 894874 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ apparently perl thinks so < 1571850369 83580 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah, right. < 1571850385 956305 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: I mean, that's the new one, so that's the most likely to break < 1571850391 782000 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1571850414 989677 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ it used to work < 1571850416 744009 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a long time < 1571850420 497658 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, returning to the thing I asked, should I give a log excerpt to that person or may I just rephrase what was brought? (Including CA and noita; interesting thing, I’ll watch a video later) < 1571850422 337219 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: long time? it ran for a month < 1571850434 160507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: our channel is over twelve years old < 1571850447 703434 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realise that < 1571850448 209326 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: really, it's either that, or an update on irc's side < 1571850451 295622 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ apparently perl thinks so => ah. Hm. It’s very strange to say the least < 1571850463 657962 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read the old IRC logs because I needed *something* < 1571850468 760663 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shouldn’t it write in UTF-8 or something) < 1571850474 972590 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from 2003 or sth < 1571850484 839704 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, this channel is quite old < 1571850490 579898 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: if you write the program correctly < 1571850493 135912 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my bot's been running for week and a half < 1571850502 179226 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: in fact you should never _decode_ what you read from irc < 1571850506 449862 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not in any defined encoding < 1571850517 880757 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just bytes, man. < 1571850527 12825 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though we usually view it in utf-8, you can send any byte string that doesn't have \x00 or \x0A or \x0D < 1571850540 190887 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: exactly, but people sometimes write programs with bugs and later fix it < 1571850541 324286 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's normal < 1571850550 90138 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1571850559 296503 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it shouldn't bail out now < 1571850591 933223 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't tell what happened on 10.18 5:00-6:00 PM GMT < 1571850683 866042 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: the esolangs.org log is backfilled after the fact from other bots when it's out. it is in fact pretty new, only like two years old, but fizzie added all the old logs retroactively to its archive < 1571850720 158375 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read a few mails from the mailing list < 1571850722 363928 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: perhaps eventually he'll fill gaps from your logs too < 1571850727 509455 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it even alive by now? < 1571850729 742468 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mailing list? what mailing list? < 1571850731 625386 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mailing list < 1571850732 906067 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :mailing list? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571850733 495282 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? email < 1571850735 30902 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :email? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571850735 152445 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mail < 1571850736 124345 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :mail? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571850743 72499 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1571850774 790092 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric.sange.fi I guess < 1571850779 375570 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have a mailing list, even wgrep doesn't know about it < 1571850782 728993 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? discord < 1571850783 916086 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :discord? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571850788 2434 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had < 1571850791 806584 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mailing list a long time ago < 1571850805 314086 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good day < 1571850805 314135 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you tell where with this: https://skyplaneru.wixsite.com/excessive? < 1571850805 314147 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand that in the community of programmers, but suddenly < 1571850821 550738 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do we have a discord < 1571850837 100804 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? website < 1571850838 141615 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :website? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571850842 508301 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have website too < 1571850842 892698 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wiki < 1571850846 378595 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is at . < 1571850851 20310 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: ^ you have to search right < 1571850851 579649 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1571850854 862399 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can grep wisdom < 1571850860 471478 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -REi http wisdom < 1571850861 481813 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/ayacc:ayacc is ais523's yacc parser generator implementation, get it from darcs clone http://nethack4.org/projects/ayacc \ wisdom/dwfo:DWFO is the Doctor Who Fan Orchestra, . \ wisdom/homestuck:Homestuck is a cult religion for disaffected teens. Gamzee drives the bus. Best summarized by http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05743.gif \ wisdom/hand injuries:Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomi < 1571850869 334713 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1571850869 398867 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1571850869 946965 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1571850871 586662 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand injuries < 1571850872 604601 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 or http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html < 1571850880 749767 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ I found a third example, I should add it there < 1571850896 698755 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't strive to understand this bot < 1571850900 763960 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, why, how < 1571850910 354939 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis ? < 1571850911 110853 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?(1hackeso) - print wisdom by name \ ?(8lambdabot) - compose tree of lambdabot commands < 1571850916 282246 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdome < 1571850917 414751 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wisdome is the place where all of HackBot's wisdom is stored and forced to fight to the death for the freedom of being printed out when you type `wisdom. Strictly speaking, it should be called the "Wissphere". < 1571850921 366231 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you already trained muscle memory for the #esoteric bots? < 1571850928 778803 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -REi http wisdom | tail -n+4 < 1571850929 907708 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/hand injuries:Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 or http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html \ wisdom/pbflist:pbflist is update notification for the Perry Bible Fellowship webcomic. http://pbfcomics.com/ \ wisdom/log:#esoteric channel logs: https://esolangs.org/logs/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ https < 1571850952 184287 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -REi wisdom < 1571850952 859326 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: I use normal unix commands more than the extra-specialized stuff < 1571850963 153726 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: bin/\? foo basically just prints wisdom/foo < 1571850964 181258 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ but, the structure of this bot < 1571850967 660755 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does a few extra things, but not too much < 1571850973 989599 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat wisdom/"hand injury" < 1571850975 185657 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: 'wisdom/hand injury': No such file or directory < 1571850975 357305 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I execute command < 1571850977 19976 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat wisdom/"hand injuries" < 1571850977 696721 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hand injuries are surprisingly common among webcomic writers, see eg. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2314 or http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0864.html < 1571850979 566829 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls / < 1571850980 367973 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ dev \ etc \ hackenv \ lib \ lib64 \ proc \ sbin \ srv \ sys \ tmp \ usr < 1571850980 625852 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? run < 1571850981 827349 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`run is HackEgo's builtin for running a command with full shell syntax. These days most use the user-made `` or ``` shortcuts instead, although all of the three have subtle differences, with `run being the most plain option (also, unlike the rest it cannot be called from other commands.) < 1571850982 711717 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571850983 480167 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls /bin < 1571850984 412596 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash \ bunzip2 \ bzcat \ bzcmp \ bzdiff \ bzegrep \ bzexe \ bzfgrep \ bzgrep \ bzip2 \ bzip2recover \ bzless \ bzmore \ cat \ chgrp \ chmod \ chown \ cp \ dash \ date \ dd \ df \ dir \ dmesg \ dnsdomainname \ domainname \ echo \ egrep \ false \ fgrep \ findmnt \ fuser \ grep \ gunzip \ gzexe \ gzip \ hostname \ ip \ journalctl \ kill \ less \ lessecho \ lessfile \ lesskey \ lesspipe \ ln \ login \ loginctl \ ls \ lsblk \ mkdir \ mknod \ mktemp < 1571850995 264357 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you say < 1571851000 422622 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the users actually construct the bot < 1571851000 867250 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1571851004 602800 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: yes < 1571851007 98757 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1571851008 220452 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incredible < 1571851010 687306 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the commands were added by users < 1571851012 754926 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am very excited for the Rise of Skywalker < 1571851015 486694 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that nobody has yet fscked up by this < 1571851018 252823 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spoilers < 1571851019 400042 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't give movie spoilers on channel. If you do, hppavilion may hire a hitman to hunt you down in real life and torture you in refined ways. < 1571851023 851450 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi, hppavilion[1] < 1571851025 305048 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have tickets to, like, the second showing in the state < 1571851028 803015 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: sure we have < 1571851033 249025 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we made a lot of mistakes, then undone them < 1571851036 877519 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ...what that intentional or just the world's greatest timing? < 1571851041 726235 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: intentional < 1571851046 784772 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example? < 1571851053 699925 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the repl have root access? < 1571851054 954207 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But yes, that position does still stand < 1571851059 417101 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: you can see the history that I talked about that wisdom entry earlier because shachaf asked < 1571851078 801275 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls < 1571851079 648356 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.out \ bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ f \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ izash.c \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quinor \ quotes \ share \ src \ test2 \ testfile \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom < 1571851083 826995 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: and you have the same nick length as kspalaiologos so at first I thought it was he who said "I am very excited for the Rise of Skywalker" < 1571851083 875193 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ./a.out < 1571851085 746761 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.250000 < 1571851089 479170 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: so I had to warn him < 1571851089 625323 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??????? < 1571851094 278806 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: you can experiment in tmp < 1571851095 195983 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tmp < 1571851096 741638 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/ is a directory for files that are not worth saving in HackEgo history, but which should still outlive a single command. 04NOTE: It interacts funnily with HackEgo's lock and re-run commit check; files can 04DISAPPEAR if you don't know what you're doing. Basically, don't modify files inside and outside tmp/ in the same HackEgo command. < 1571851100 542088 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. < 1571851105 346560 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Huh, so I do < 1571851112 622583 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd tmp < 1571851113 339219 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571851115 285448 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls < 1571851116 113582 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.out \ bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ evil \ f \ factor \ good \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ izash.c \ karma \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quinor \ quotes \ share \ src \ test2 \ testfile \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom < 1571851122 367003 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, so I have to < 1571851124 177759 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :give a single command < 1571851135 213188 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: But it isn't out for months, so if kspalaiologos happens to HAVE spoilers, I'd honestly be fascinated to know how (but not what they are) < 1571851153 571252 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; gcc -Wall -O -o tmp/a.out -x c - <<<$'#include\n''void main() { printf("this is a C program\n"); }'; tmp/a.out < 1571851155 576225 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:2:6: warning: return type of 'main' is not 'int' [-Wmain] \ this is a C program < 1571851162 720111 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; gcc -Wall -O -o tmp/a.out -x c - <<<$'#include\n''int main() { printf("this is a C program\n"); }'; tmp/a.out < 1571851163 716673 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh c'mon man < 1571851163 923757 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a C program < 1571851164 950295 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :void main < 1571851170 282370 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a crime against humanity < 1571851178 706856 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it also needs a magic option to turn off the colors < 1571851187 471214 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ansi filter when? < 1571851187 787225 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like -fdiagnostic-colors=never or similar < 1571851199 805958 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I do not recognize the validity of so-called "trailer spoilers" < 1571851209 606643 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: ideally I should make a terminfo entry for irc colors, but I haven't bothered < 1571851212 135648 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in the context of not telling someone what happens in a trailer within maybe a week of its release IF they express that they haven't seen it yet and don't want to be quote-unquote "spoiled" < 1571851213 80469 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about right now? < 1571851215 432048 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so lost < 1571851232 164907 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hackego # root access < 1571851233 326594 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego # root access? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571851236 695153 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: b_jonas is talking about convoluted hackbot things, I'm talking about the ontology of movie spoilers < 1571851237 206213 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` \? hackego # root access < 1571851238 335474 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico! < 1571851264 5329 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` \? edit # single command < 1571851265 260201 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`edit gives you a url, then in your browser: (1) Press Sync (unless making a new file) (2) Make your changes (3) Press Save (4) Paste the command line at the top into the channel. < 1571851266 105338 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, HackEgo's name has changed. Cool. < 1571851277 448598 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it's a reincarnation < 1571851286 892540 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hackego < 1571851287 973297 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. HackEgo is the slowest bot in all Mexico! < 1571851291 541352 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: it has most of the old one's memory, from one of the backup dumps of the hg repository < 1571851307 233317 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: except the hg log is truncated, I don't know why, so if you look way back in the revisions, you won't find the oldest stuff < 1571851315 435600 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1571851318 924114 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hg < 1571851320 31214 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg is dark alchemy used by oerjan to fix things. Like most alchemy, it involves drinking mercury. < 1571851320 201553 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Should someone change the contents of `? HackEgo to match the reincarnation? < 1571851323 32763 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd tmp && edit test.sh > 1571851325 298883 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Dotjpg3141 5* 10New user account < 1571851326 662568 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/edit/tmp/test.sh < 1571851329 32926 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this how it works < 1571851329 264689 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: no, we have a separate entry < 1571851331 533783 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEso < 1571851333 60772 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1571851333 553880 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEso is almost but not quite unlike HackEgo. < 1571851344 13043 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Then 'is' -> 'was'? < 1571851345 383258 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the HackEgo one is still an accurate description of the old bot < 1571851372 351782 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't think so, that's not a nice thing to edit about the bot that's sleeping but will return when the country needs him the most < 1571851380 807849 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the once and future king will arise < 1571851384 971709 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Oh, like Arthur? < 1571851390 275531 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hg is alchemy haha. It reifies lead into tin, tin into iron, iron into copper, copper into silver, and silver into gold, and gold you shall not reify nohow < 1571851395 446498 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Merlin also destined to return in England's hour of need? I'm not clear on that one < 1571851398 630517 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1571851413 767584 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I set up my brainfuck assembler on the bot < 1571851414 496465 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: Applying gallium to aluminum turns the aluminum into basically we tcardboard < 1571851430 538035 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: merlin time travels to the future. don't you read Irregular Webcomic? < 1571851434 62955 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what kind of alchemy is that? < 1571851437 524460 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Via a tree? < 1571851444 935126 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I don't know < 1571851445 276317 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I mean, it's real-life chemistry < 1571851455 851151 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: what's a brainfuck assembler? < 1571851467 344042 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what's the exact prophesy on when Arthur will return? Is it specifically *England's* hour of need, or just the UK as a whole? < 1571851481 379421 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the name suggests, the program that's able to serve like a brainfuck-like assembler hooked with a pipe to a brainfuck interpreter < 1571851487 410766 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: aww < 1571851487 449366 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *prophecy < 1571851491 842897 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'prophesy' is a verb < 1571851492 279182 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a repl < 1571851502 353338 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for testing the snippets < 1571851516 499881 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm what reaction there is and where could I watch it) < 1571851541 26039 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: Yes you could. Was that a cute 'aww' or a disappointed 'aww'? > 1571851548 356526 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66762&oldid=66759 5* 03Dotjpg3141 5* (+110) 10 < 1571851557 444101 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please allow me to introduce myself < 1571851557 880341 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: you can probably try. fizzie seems to have long tolerances, seeing that he hasn't banned me entirely from the bot yet < 1571851558 82520 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t know, that’s why I posted it so long < 1571851564 86692 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a man of wealth and taste < 1571851573 642674 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgXNwLoS-Hw < 1571851582 896770 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :```git < 1571851583 498306 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``git: not found < 1571851589 132025 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :```unzip < 1571851589 751869 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``unzip: not found < 1571851590 17018 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` \? fetch # kspalaiologos: you should know about that too, besides edit < 1571851591 181452 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`fetch [] downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. It is a special builtin that cannot be called from other commands. See also `edit. < 1571851591 570780 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: thanks < 1571851595 107418 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1571851599 588361 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the editor has already instructed me < 1571851600 178625 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: we have tar and gzip and xz < 1571851614 911525 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to do it over my vps < 1571851616 681813 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1571851624 543413 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because github doesn't support downlading tarballs < 1571851626 92811 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it? < 1571851644 916966 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chemistry is like alchemy, except that it's real and interfaces with the laws of economics (meaning if you find a cost-effective way to turn lead into gold, you'll just drop the price of gold) < 1571851645 625897 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: in the worst case, you can uuencode it and put in edit < 1571851651 500288 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1571851655 951689 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems like a terrible idea < 1571851662 785466 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a second < 1571851666 905720 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but putting it somewhere on the http web and fetching is usually easier < 1571851670 505665 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Did you ever hang out in #xkcd? Or did I confuse you for someone else? < 1571851674 832570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :github does support downloading zip files. < 1571851678 424056 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to host it temporarily < 1571851695 310764 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: for a few days, I think. I never participated < 1571851701 858965 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1571851709 736700 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I was also on one of the xkcd wikis but didn't participate much < 1571851718 204516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under the "Clone or download v" button, there's a "Download ZIP" option which will just zip up all the repository contents into a file. < 1571851720 126022 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That channel gets a bit toxic occasionally, so I can't blame you if you quit during one of *those* periods < 1571851720 263629 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on explainxkcd but also didn't participate much < 1571851727 751385 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch tmp/test.sh https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/test.sh < 1571851729 116951 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-23 17:28:48 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/test.sh [130/130] -> "tmp/test.sh" [1] < 1571851739 101420 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :```cd tmp && cat test.sh < 1571851739 983836 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``cd: not found < 1571851748 426925 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1571851752 410785 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I wonder if I'm conflating your nick with someone else's with a similar name; however, the only person I can think of is VictoriaB, whose old nick started with a 'j' < 1571851755 184403 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd tmp && cat test.sh < 1571851755 819428 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cd: not found < 1571851760 422821 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: I'm only on like one or two channel per network on most networks other than freenode < 1571851764 438386 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat tmp/test.sh < 1571851765 107751 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.1.1.tar.gz \ tar -xzf v1.1.1.tar.gz \ cd asmbf-1.1.1 \ sudo make all install < 1571851770 49198 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lgtm < 1571851773 751327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not going to work: there's no networking from inside the machine. < 1571851777 390696 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wish hexchat had a way for me to scan two channels for overlap (even attempting on different servers) < 1571851778 828228 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there? < 1571851781 107223 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1571851786 971505 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: three backticks and a space < 1571851806 912654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The `fetch is the only thing that's able to fetch anything. < 1571851833 359686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But really, that's just four commands, why would you need to run it as a script inside? Just fetch the file (preferrably into tmp/) and run those one by one. < 1571851841 665890 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think it's an experiment < 1571851844 279007 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing stuff < 1571851846 120407 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1]: what do you mean < 1571851850 1814 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing shorter scripts to < 1571851853 769570 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :know how longer scripts will work < 1571851856 380208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, "sudo" is not going to work either. < 1571851858 286892 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: Clarify > 1571851860 717612 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck algorithms14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66763&oldid=60732 5* 03Dotjpg3141 5* (-45) 10/* swap x, y */ < 1571851860 957735 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : Chemistry is like alchemy, except that it's real and interfaces with the laws of economics (meaning if you find a cost-effective way to turn lead into gold, you'll just drop the price of gold) => agree on both points < 1571851873 825111 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wisdom/HackEgo more or less invites you to tryu < 1571851874 450879 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I really wish hexchat had a way for me to scan two channels for overlap" < 1571851879 10759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "make install" probably needs a PREFIX= argument or some-such. < 1571851880 295025 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :overlap of what? text? < 1571851892 297729 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: Ah. I mean nick-overlap < 1571851902 775654 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is nick overlap? X) < 1571851904 335750 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd tmp && edit hexdump.hex < 1571851905 191737 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/edit/tmp/hexdump.hex < 1571851926 872216 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch tmp/hexdump.hex https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/hexdump.hex < 1571851928 828208 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-23 17:32:07 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/hexdump.hex [119404/119404] -> "tmp/hexdump.hex" [1] < 1571851929 831581 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: Like, scan if anyone has the same or similar nick, realname, or hostthing (whatever it is after the '@' in one's full id thing) < 1571851968 368062 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a python plugin, it's easy < 1571851969 243247 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'similar' being defined by some predicate such as case-insensitive levenstein distance < 1571851983 134931 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote one to turn hexchat into a spy software < 1571851995 914635 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while I'm in a channel, it will relay all messages to other servers < 1571852034 44040 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular it's useful to have a user relay messages to another channel. < 1571852048 88463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: If that's a hexdump of the earlier v1.1.1.tar.gz file (like it appears), why in the world would you fetch *that* instead of just fetching the binary file? < 1571852049 685266 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days I use weechat though :) < 1571852051 784144 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch tmp/test.sh https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/test.sh < 1571852053 211364 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-23 17:34:12 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/test.sh [93/93] -> "tmp/test.sh" [1] < 1571852066 435940 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I have no idea what i'm doing < 1571852069 53029 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave me < 1571852091 23830 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat tmp/ < 1571852091 696249 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: tmp/: Is a directory < 1571852094 760998 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls tmp/ < 1571852095 569851 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-BE8SJn_Dnja \ 0KpPun-ahPnp \ 4qubykGwXZAV \ 8bZIQdyoQ_3S \ EGYj6LpQgFKM \ I3ZdY_oWgTHb \ OUT \ X81G5u_N85_r \ a.c \ a.out \ aczO2Vrn8mw1 \ as-encoding \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ hexdump.hex \ iKVic2uB99hI \ input.brachylog \ jeval.whatis \ out \ out.a \ out.a.hd \ out.a.xxd \ paste \ single-word-character-names \ spline \ spout \ spout.raw \ test.sh \ tmp.txt \ uGgIjgPAmv8A < 1571852110 890936 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat tmp/test.sh < 1571852111 644158 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :xxd -r hexdump.hex v1.1.1.tar.gz \ tar -xzf v1.1.1.tar.gz \ cd asmbf-1.1.1 \ sudo make all install < 1571852129 125730 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` /bin/bash tmp/test.sh < 1571852129 987158 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmp/test.sh: line 1: xxd: command not found \ tar (child): v1.1.1.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory \ tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now \ tar: Child returned status 2 \ tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now \ tmp/test.sh: line 3: cd: asmbf-1.1.1: No such file or directory \ sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privilege < 1571852137 961152 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what just happened < 1571852148 801363 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: because edit doesn't like non-ascii files < 1571852152 166338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"xxd: command not found" happened, and the rest was just cascading errors. < 1571852154 957573 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he's fetching from edit as you can see < 1571852168 262162 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how xxd is not present here < 1571852173 32333 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a standard posix tool < 1571852174 416850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but it's just bizarre. < 1571852181 597598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not. < 1571852184 126671 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did say uunecode, but the young ones don't know how it and ftp ascii mode works < 1571852185 957503 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1571852197 978753 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 7-bit serial lines < 1571852203 666245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Well, I mean, the point is, the binary file was already available at a web address. < 1571852209 935753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no need to round-trip through edit. < 1571852216 541658 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch tmp/v1.1.1.tar.gz https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.1.1.tar.gz < 1571852218 276288 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-23 17:36:57 URL:https://codeload.github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/tar.gz/v1.1.1 [28092] -> "tmp/v1.1.1.tar.gz" [1] < 1571852221 687183 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah < 1571852223 531985 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1571852231 234154 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch tmp/test.sh https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/test.sh < 1571852232 208897 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-23 17:37:11 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/test.sh [60/60] -> "tmp/test.sh" [1] < 1571852237 71941 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` /bin/bash tmp/test.sh < 1571852237 857960 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar (child): v1.1.1.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory \ tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now \ tar: Child returned status 2 \ tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now \ tmp/test.sh: line 2: cd: asmbf-1.1.1: No such file or directory \ sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges? < 1571852247 629953 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls tmp/ < 1571852248 537600 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-BE8SJn_Dnja \ 0KpPun-ahPnp \ 4qubykGwXZAV \ 8bZIQdyoQ_3S \ EGYj6LpQgFKM \ I3ZdY_oWgTHb \ OUT \ X81G5u_N85_r \ a.c \ a.out \ aczO2Vrn8mw1 \ as-encoding \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ hexdump.hex \ iKVic2uB99hI \ input.brachylog \ jeval.whatis \ out \ out.a \ out.a.hd \ out.a.xxd \ paste \ single-word-character-names \ spline \ spout \ spout.raw \ test.sh \ tmp.txt \ uGgIjgPAmv8A \ v1.1.1.tar.gz < 1571852262 433239 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd tmp && /bin/bash test.sh < 1571852263 305443 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges? < 1571852276 670616 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch tmp/test.sh https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/test.sh < 1571852277 620146 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-23 17:37:57 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/test.sh [55/55] -> "tmp/test.sh" [1] < 1571852277 709607 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd tmp && /bin/bash test.sh < 1571852281 267783 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges? \ make: *** [install] Error 1 \ gcc -Ofast -march=native -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -w bfasm.c -o bfasm \ gcc -Ofast -march=native -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -w bfi.c -o bfi \ gcc -Ofast -march=native -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -w bfintd.c -o bfintd \ gcc -Ofast < 1571852301 526768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` rm tmp/{-BE8SJn_Dnja,0KpPun-ahPnp,4qubykGwXZAV,8bZIQdyoQ_3S,EGYj6LpQgFKM,I3ZdY_oWgTHb,X81G5u_N85_r,aczO2Vrn8mw1,iKVic2uB99hI,uGgIjgPAmv8A} # just some spring cleaning < 1571852302 165784 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove 'tmp/-BE8SJn_Dnja': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove 'tmp/0KpPun-ahPnp': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove 'tmp/8bZIQdyoQ_3S': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove 'tmp/EGYj6LpQgFKM': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove 'tmp/I3ZdY_oWgTHb': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove 'tmp/X81G5u_N85_r': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove 'tmp/aczO2Vrn8mw1': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove 'tmp/iKVic2uB99hI': Is a directory \ rm: can < 1571852312 524584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, they're directories. < 1571852319 743770 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: some of those might have been me < 1571852334 630733 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rmdir tmp/* < 1571852335 312108 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove 'tmp/EGYj6LpQgFKM': Directory not empty \ rmdir: failed to remove 'tmp/OUT': Not a directory \ rmdir: failed to remove 'tmp/a.c': Not a directory \ rmdir: failed to remove 'tmp/a.out': Not a directory \ rmdir: failed to remove 'tmp/as-encoding': Not a directory \ rmdir: failed to remove 'tmp/asmbf-1.1.1': Directory not empty \ rmdir: failed to remove 'tmp/compiled_brachylog.pl': Not a directory \ rmdir: failed to remove < 1571852344 1814 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :```ls tmp/ < 1571852344 920000 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``ls: not found < 1571852347 174075 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls tmp/ < 1571852348 114243 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGYj6LpQgFKM \ OUT \ a.c \ a.out \ as-encoding \ asmbf-1.1.1 \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ hexdump.hex \ input.brachylog \ jeval.whatis \ out \ out.a \ out.a.hd \ out.a.xxd \ paste \ single-word-character-names \ spline \ spout \ spout.raw \ test.sh \ tmp.txt \ v1.1.1.tar.gz < 1571852355 655763 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/ < 1571852356 497261 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTHORS \ INSTALL \ LICENSE \ Makefile \ NEWS \ README \ TODO \ VERSIONING \ bconv.c \ bfasm.asm \ bfasm.b \ bfasm.c \ bfasm.rs \ bfi.c \ bfintd.c \ bfmake \ bfpp \ bin \ doc \ examples \ labels.pl \ strip.pl \ test \ test.pl < 1571852371 40266 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` edit tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/Makefile < 1571852371 885347 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/edit/tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/Makefile < 1571852389 288483 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/Makefile https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/Makefile < 1571852390 319069 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-10-23 17:39:49 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/Makefile [687/687] -> "tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/Makefile" [1] < 1571852401 907111 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: hope you don't have to compile anything big that takes more than like 12 seconds or whatever the command timeout is < 1571852407 812331 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1571852410 653234 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just 4 programs < 1571852419 849399 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every single one is <5 kilobytes big < 1571852432 790709 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/ && make all install < 1571852435 987170 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: cannot create regular file '/bin/bconv': Read-only file system \ cp: cannot create regular file '/bin/bfasm': Read-only file system \ cp: cannot create regular file '/bin/bfi': Read-only file system \ cp: cannot create regular file '/bin/bfintd': Read-only file system \ cp: cannot create regular file '/bin/bfmake': Read-only file system \ cp: cannot create regular file '/bin/bfpp': Read-only file system \ cp: cannot create regular file '/b < 1571852438 716480 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: yeah, the ones that take too much to compile are often also too big to fetch < 1571852447 139719 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1571852452 213307 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll have to change the prefix < 1571852455 82276 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you put the binaries < 1571852461 629037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/hackenv/bin, usually. < 1571852463 245039 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll create a folder for myself < 1571852468 682564 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't pollute the path < 1571852475 508203 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: create a dir under hackenv/lib < 1571852478 863855 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :under /hackenv/lib < 1571852479 828648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, yes, that. < 1571852492 896994 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or under /hackenv/share for the architecture-independent ones < 1571852493 358984 :skyplane!~quassel@l37-192-246-24.novotelecom.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1571852493 474627 :skyplane_!uid399889@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sekdqeghmwwoypxo NICK :skyplane < 1571852496 580226 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1571852504 377969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $PATH < 1571852505 48110 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1571852508 63136 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why under /lib < 1571852514 614007 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: not /lib < 1571852520 16996 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: /hackenv/lib < 1571852523 541435 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to shorten typing xd < 1571852529 62467 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why there < 1571852548 436941 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: oh, Noita is by the same author as Baba is You! < 1571852548 740474 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: because we use /hackenv/lib and /hackenv/share as sort of like the user's /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/share < 1571852557 703288 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/bin/ < 1571852558 771134 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bconv \ bfasm \ bfi \ bfintd \ bfmake \ bfpp \ labels.pl \ strip.pl < 1571852561 471698 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: we're not sysadmins so we can't write to /usr/local < 1571852569 588356 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but /hackenv is our homedir, so we can write under there < 1571852573 21171 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this stuff should probably go to my folder in path < 1571852576 744708 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we use bin, lib, share under it < 1571852585 857669 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll have to modify the scripts though as they might not work with the nesting < 1571852592 451928 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#shitcode < 1571852613 154318 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: why? can't you just configure --prefix=/hackenv/lib or make PREFIX=/hackenv/lib or something? < 1571852627 256803 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote that makefile < 1571852631 78071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I guess technically the binaries should be in /hackenv/libexec for more FHS-y style. < 1571852658 249771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/usr/libexec includes internal binaries that are not intended to be executed directly by users or shell scripts." < 1571852659 445321 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: perhaps. do you know who created /hackenv/share ? < 1571852660 252290 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/bin/bconv /hackenv/bin < 1571852661 918165 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571852668 846700 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp tmp/asmbf-1.1.1/bin/bfasm /hackenv/bin < 1571852670 739139 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571852672 859522 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's all I think < 1571852680 972121 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bfasm < 1571852682 811375 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: /hackenv is a bit of a mess, with some garbage spread around < 1571852692 747555 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we tend to remove at least the top level stuff, but we don't really have a good hierarchy < 1571852693 547297 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1571852695 460157 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat < 1571852701 26167 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when I do that? < 1571852707 267361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A timeout at some point, normally. < 1571852708 230057 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program just gets killed at eof or what < 1571852711 575189 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571852714 786942 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1571852716 871974 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: cp? don't you use symlinks? < 1571852727 766864 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably I should < 1571852733 449357 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` oh sorry < 1571852734 218834 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: oh: command not found < 1571852735 219944 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody is interested in my stuff so I program it like for myself < 1571852735 718541 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was from temps < 1571852745 34722 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: sorry, don't symlink < 1571852751 367448 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the source was from tmp, so you can't symlink < 1571852757 621545 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1571852760 463658 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I specify multiline output < 1571852762 165714 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: did you install to tmp? < 1571852763 418955 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :input < 1571852768 663491 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I didnt install to tmp < 1571852769 670343 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a good idea if it has any files other than the binary < 1571852771 689649 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the install didnt success < 1571852772 193065 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1571852773 232774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It was just built in the source tree and then manually copied over. < 1571852780 539683 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1571852781 7862 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1571852783 691975 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because install script bailed out < 1571852794 332063 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :```bfasm < 1571852794 974825 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``bfasm: not found < 1571852798 610336 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second < 1571852805 958192 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :```bfasm out .0 < 1571852806 652256 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ``bfasm: not found < 1571852809 385002 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bfasm out .0 < 1571852811 41665 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: if it works, you may also create a wisdom entry so we know what the program is for < 1571852817 572112 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't send eof < 1571852818 910280 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though maybe it has a good --help output or something < 1571852820 515733 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats very bad < 1571852824 538380 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bfasm --help < 1571852827 222459 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571852829 980839 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has no help flag < 1571852835 975417 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can read its source code < 1571852839 978218 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571852843 114824 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its really helpful in understanding it < 1571852855 59957 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571852857 112960 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I manually instuct the bot to send eof at the end? < 1571852864 920236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the end of *what*? < 1571852868 871113 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of my input < 1571852872 42035 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: a wisdom entry that tells where its source is and a quick synopsis might be helpful then < 1571852880 253209 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will add it in a moment < 1571852886 566037 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm working out the eof < 1571852888 572129 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: because a month from now, we won't be able to guess where the source is, and we won't want to dive the log to find out < 1571852889 118946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do < /dev/null to get an empty stdin with an EOF at the end. < 1571852901 210619 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: try <<<"" < 1571852901 309981 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is < 1571852905 573559 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, +[<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]<<<<<<]<<<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]<<<[-]>[-]>>]<<] < 1571852966 581016 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl <<<'print "hello, world! " for 1..9' < 1571852967 341531 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, world! hello, world! hello, world! hello, world! hello, world! hello, world! hello, world! hello, world! hello, world! < 1571852968 456433 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yayyyy < 1571852985 907028 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1571852991 194565 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you add wisdom entry? < 1571852994 705127 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1571852995 810476 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`learn creates a wisdom entry and tries to guess which word is the key. Syntax (case insensitive): `learn [a|an|the] [s][punctuation] [...] < 1571852997 870693 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le//rn < 1571852999 15840 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. Usage: `le/[/]rn // < 1571853012 224603 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or create a file manually in the wisdom directory with a lowercase name < 1571853022 218500 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't end in s < 1571853032 803540 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I just link the documentation? < 1571853037 42545 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1571853048 662466 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but adding a short synopsis should help < 1571853053 329226 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people can know if they should even check the docs < 1571853085 875866 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn the bfasm The brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853087 882159 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'bfasm': the bfasm The brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853093 738579 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom bfasm < 1571853094 590738 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​bfasm//the bfasm The brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853099 423082 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lgtm < 1571853108 193817 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bfasm < 1571853109 240216 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bfasm The brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853136 50191 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1571853141 822427 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been appended to the beginning < 1571853151 983633 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a derp lol < 1571853153 291668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how it does. < 1571853165 619349 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wiki < 1571853166 762535 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is at . < 1571853175 613955 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? test < 1571853176 787366 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :test failed. HackEgo-JUnit is not available. < 1571853177 126952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is that you can `learn things like "The foomajick is a thingummy.", and then `? foomajick will return that. < 1571853180 807981 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: try le//rn < 1571853185 835135 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or slashlearn if you're me < 1571853194 758482 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn < 1571853195 419113 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: `le/[/]rn // < 1571853208 785654 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn bfasm //The brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853210 964670 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'bfasm ': The brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853219 237111 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1571853222 177833 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I remove the key? < 1571853225 203161 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn bfasm//The brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853227 300435 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'bfasm': The brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853230 478711 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in this case, it should say something like "bfasm is the brainfuck assembler..." < 1571853233 529933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` forget 'bfasm ' < 1571853235 264763 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what? < 1571853235 301002 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forget < 1571853236 400080 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571853250 905962 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le//rn bfasm//bfasm is the brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853255 918677 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'bfasm': bfasm is the brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853286 941688 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bfasm < 1571853287 195732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, you didn't need le//rn for *that*, the "a/an/the" is optional. < 1571853288 7922 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfasm is the brainfuck assembler. Documentation and samples: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/master/doc/bfasm.doc < 1571853290 317043 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1571853291 441350 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and, uh, that other one? It started with, like, an ø? < 1571853300 52796 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: didn't have an "is" before < 1571853302 175692 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i specify newlines in <<<""? < 1571853314 408588 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: it's just bash syntax. you can use $'\n' if you want < 1571853319 636911 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: see my gcc command < 1571853406 688007 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other solutions too of course < 1571853462 876251 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder will it build < 1571853471 662707 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bfasm <<<"mov r4,.F$'\n'mov r1,.0$'\n'mov r2,r1$'\n'lbl 1$'\n'out r1$'\n'out r2$'\n'out 32$'\n'mov r3,r1$'\n'eq_ r3,.9$'\n'jnz r3,2$'\n'mov r3,r2$'\n'eq_ r3,.9$'\n'jnz r3,3$'\n'mov r3,r1$'\n'eq_ r3,r4$'\n'jnz r3,5$'\n'lbl 6$'\n'mov r3,r2$'\n'eq_ r3,r4$'\n'jnz r3,4$'\n'inc r2$'\n'jmp 1$'\n'lbl 2$'\n'sub r4,5$'\n'mov r1,r4$'\n'add r4,5$'\n'jmp 1$'\n'lbl 3$'\n'sub r4,5$'\n'mov r2,r4$'\n'add r4,5$'\n'jmp 1$'\n'lbl 4$'\n'inc r1$'\n'mov r2,.0$'\n < 1571853471 726402 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'jmp 1$'\n'lbl 5$'\n'mov r3,r2$'\n'eq_ r3,r4$'\n'jz_ r3,6$'\n'0,00" < 1571853472 363351 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1571853478 648108 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap, too big < 1571853489 120207 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: no no, put the whole thing in $'...' < 1571853499 138966 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then C-like backslash escapes will be interpreted in it < 1571853507 914569 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :works good unless you need literal backslashes in your program < 1571853516 839484 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or literal apostrophes < 1571853523 751147 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to escape those with a backslash < 1571853541 943002 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<<<"$'mov r4,.F\nmov r1,.0\nmov r2,r1\nlbl 1\nout r1\nout r2\nout 32\nmov r3,r1\neq_ r3,.9\njnz r3,2\nmov r3,r2\neq_ r3,.9\njnz r3,3\nmov r3,r1\neq_ r3,r4\njnz r3,5\nlbl 6\nmov r3,r2\neq_ r3,r4\njnz r3,4\ninc r2\njmp 1\nlbl 2\nsub r4,5\nmov r1,r4\nadd r4,5\njmp 1\nlbl 3\nsub r4,5\nmov r2,r4\nadd r4,5\njmp 1\nlbl 4\ninc r1\nmov r2,.0\njmp 1\nlbl 5\nmov r3,r2\neq_ r3,r4\njz_ r3,6\n'" < 1571853549 621 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: but if you have this many newlines, then <<<'....' tr / \\n is almost worth < 1571853550 261171 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot to run the program < 1571853559 483068 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: no, drop the double quote < 1571853570 714162 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... hmm < 1571853579 74894 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo "a$'b'c" < 1571853579 751925 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :a$'b'c < 1571853588 29328 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` echo a$'b'c < 1571853588 750379 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc < 1571853597 292468 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bfasm <<<$'mov r4,.F/mov r1,.0/mov r2,r1/lbl 1/out r1/out r2/out 32/mov r3,r1/eq_ r3,.9/jnz r3,2/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,.9/jnz r3,3/mov r3,r1/eq_ r3,r4/jnz r3,5/lbl 6/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,r4/jnz r3,4/inc r2/jmp 1/lbl 2/sub r4,5/mov r1,r4/add r4,5/jmp 1/lbl 3/sub r4,5/mov r2,r4/add r4,5/jmp 1/lbl 4/inc r1/mov r2,.0/jmp 1/lbl 5/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,r4/jz_ r3,6/' tr / \\n < 1571853598 29874 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+>+[# < 1571853615 56638 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1571853616 153137 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: um no, tr is a program, you have to pipe its output to bfasm < 1571853633 847682 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tr / \\n | bfasm<<<$'mov r4,.F/mov r1,.0/mov r2,r1/lbl 1/out r1/out r2/out 32/mov r3,r1/eq_ r3,.9/jnz r3,2/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,.9/jnz r3,3/mov r3,r1/eq_ r3,r4/jnz r3,5/lbl 6/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,r4/jnz r3,4/inc r2/jmp 1/lbl 2/sub r4,5/mov r1,r4/add r4,5/jmp 1/lbl 3/sub r4,5/mov r2,r4/add r4,5/jmp 1/lbl 4/inc r1/mov r2,.0/jmp 1/lbl 5/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,r4/jz_ r3,6/' < 1571853638 26703 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1571853639 814485 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an idiot < 1571853657 865757 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tr / \\n <<<$'mov r4,.F/mov r1,.0/mov r2,r1/lbl 1/out r1/out r2/out 32/mov r3,r1/eq_ r3,.9/jnz r3,2/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,.9/jnz r3,3/mov r3,r1/eq_ r3,r4/jnz r3,5/lbl 6/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,r4/jnz r3,4/inc r2/jmp 1/lbl 2/sub r4,5/mov r1,r4/add r4,5/jmp 1/lbl 3/sub r4,5/mov r2,r4/add r4,5/jmp 1/lbl 4/inc r1/mov r2,.0/jmp 1/lbl 5/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,r4/jz_ r3,6/' | bfasm < 1571853658 655340 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+>+[<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]>>>>>[-]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<<<[-]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>[-]<[>+<<+>-]<[>+<-]<]>+<<+<<[>>->+<<<-]>>>[<<<+>>>-]<[->+<<[>>>-<<+<-]>[<+>-]>>[<->[-]]<[<<<+>>>-]<]>>[-]<<<<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]>>.>.>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]<<[-]<<[>>+<<<+>-]<[>+<-]>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<<[<<<<+>>>>- < 1571853667 43274 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :close < 1571853670 718176 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: but now you don't need the dollar sign < 1571853675 70465 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're not using backslash escapes < 1571853708 570277 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I split the output amongst messages? < 1571853725 622208 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tr / \\n <<<$'mov r4,.F/mov r1,.0/mov r2,r1/lbl 1/out r1/out r2/out 32/mov r3,r1/eq_ r3,.9/jnz r3,2/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,.9/jnz r3,3/mov r3,r1/eq_ r3,r4/jnz r3,5/lbl 6/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,r4/jnz r3,4/inc r2/jmp 1/lbl 2/sub r4,5/mov r1,r4/add r4,5/jmp 1/lbl 3/sub r4,5/mov r2,r4/add r4,5/jmp 1/lbl 4/inc r1/mov r2,.0/jmp 1/lbl 5/mov r3,r2/eq_ r3,r4/jz_ r3,6/' | bfasm > tmp/test.b < 1571853727 885529 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571853732 692179 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` bfi < 1571853733 419245 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: yes. save stuff in a file. < 1571853734 80512 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: bfi: command not found < 1571853736 796229 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no brainfuck interpreter? < 1571853743 982060 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571853760 80493 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: didn't we go through that? we have a brainfuck interpreter in HackEso, one in fungot, and one in lambdabot < 1571853760 150920 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i dont even know what you mean. interesting, thanks for the link < 1571853777 605522 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows it called? < 1571853779 171728 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! bf +++++++++++++++++++++[.+] < 1571853779 995316 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ < 1571853785 941374 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1571853803 822124 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs a few more pluses < 1571853806 138604 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i run a file though < 1571853807 742744 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++[.+] < 1571853808 525504 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ < 1571853812 918836 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ! < 1571853814 49081 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​! is a syntax used in Haskell and Prolog for solving evaluation order problems. < 1571853816 289038 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1571853817 688393 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `! < 1571853818 761007 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`! emulates the ! command of our former bot EgoBot. You write `! then the name of the language then a program, and it runs the program you give and returns the result. We used to use it to test out esoprograms in-channel all the time, but the set of included esolangs is fairly old now and so it's rarely used. < 1571853829 950967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 file.bf" for running a file. < 1571853840 692586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what /hackenv/bin/bf is a wrapper around of. < 1571853852 928100 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 /tmp/test.b < 1571853853 761421 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/test.b: No such file or directory < 1571853858 134531 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` /hackenv/interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 tmp/test.b < 1571853858 987722 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2A 2B 2C 2D 2E 2F 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 3A 3B 3C 3D 3E 3F 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 4A 4B 4C 4D 4E 4F 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 5A 5B 5C 5D 5E 5F 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 6A 6B 6C 6D 6E 6F 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 7A 7B 7C 7D 7E 7F 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 8A 8B 8C 8D 8E 8F 90 A0 A1 A2 A3 < 1571853865 269087 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :works < 1571853869 595425 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a charm < 1571853887 451495 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do you use bin/bf though? < 1571853890 230566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l tmp/test.b < 1571853891 16538 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 2902 Oct 23 18:02 tmp/test.b < 1571853904 803419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as big as I expected. < 1571853917 93309 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,9k < 1571853920 466034 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not great not terrible < 1571853928 357712 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to optimize my program for assembly size < 1571853931 578706 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it fits in irc message < 1571853943 150152 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimizing it for brainfuck size would shave off around 900 bytes < 1571854061 800948 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i view my last contributions on wiki < 1571854068 40957 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I feel like i started something and didn't finish it < 1571854068 469829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/bf just takes the first command-line argument (so all the input in `bf ...) and handles the ! notation, passing the part before as the file (well, pipe) for egobfi8 to execute, and the part after as the standard input. < 1571854102 758574 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1571854103 418270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf >>,[>,]<[<]>[.>>]<[>>]<<[.<<]!scrambled < 1571854104 178314 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :srmldebac < 1571854114 701900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^unscramble srmldebac < 1571854114 749041 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrambled < 1571854119 284492 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ and enter your wiki username into the field < 1571854121 860791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show unscramble < 1571854121 897074 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,[>,]<[<]>[.[-]>[>]<[.[-]<[<]]>] < 1571854203 846759 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the hardware bot\'s running? < 1571854227 792507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` free # that much RAM < 1571854228 546887 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ total used free shared buff/cache available \ Mem: 252664 3924 245240 0 3500 243980 \ Swap: 0 0 0 < 1571854245 780086 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` df /hackenv # that much free space on the file system < 1571854246 466209 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on \ none 24733776 13762932 9701340 59% /hackenv < 1571854248 917860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "hardware". < 1571854258 55797 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emulated? < 1571854262 582471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For hardware, it's pretty soft. < 1571854266 521436 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat /proc/cpuinfo # and that's what the three layers of virtual machine lies to us about the cpu < 1571854267 296021 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :processor : 0 \ vendor_id : User Mode Linux \ model name : UML \ mode : skas \ host : Linux dysnomia.zem.fi 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04) x86_64 \ bogomips : 5112.62 < 1571854268 710047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's emulated twice over. < 1571854273 918803 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa what < 1571854275 544087 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why twice < 1571854275 659307 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still an x86_64, mind you < 1571854279 22445 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only twice? < 1571854281 410820 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1571854283 97837 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's three times < 1571854290 854231 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh < 1571854295 742333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I wasn't really counting the user/process/filesystem namespace thing. < 1571854297 169574 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you do that < 1571854313 461837 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :once a full machine emulation by the hosting company to the machine that fizzie has root on, < 1571854323 546689 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one layer of user-mode linux < 1571854329 900151 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I forgot what the third one was < 1571854341 783705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :systemd-nspawn, which is all Linux namespaces. < 1571854343 259218 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, once with linux namespaces < 1571854343 889759 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fizzie owns a vps < 1571854344 194099 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1571854350 807204 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I guess you're right, it's emulated only twice < 1571854354 909132 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sandboxed the third time < 1571854357 661397 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not emulated < 1571854358 329014 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he then virtualizes the bot? < 1571854369 620391 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: yes < 1571854375 6682 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1571854392 820346 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus runs some other things on the same server < 1571854394 207154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same system where the wiki's running, except the wiki's not in the container. (And obviously not in the UML either.) < 1571854400 780039 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1571854403 550073 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is lambdabot running there too? < 1571854404 585877 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you "own" the wiki? < 1571854420 829348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I "maintain" it, nowadays. < 1571854421 3628 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esolangs logs also runs there usually < 1571854423 98266 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't the hosting donated? < 1571854425 468610 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1571854426 630314 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the wiki notification too < 1571854434 661366 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, who is the person behind creating this community < 1571854440 708662 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's intriguing me < 1571854444 974858 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, in the future, zemhill will run there too < 1571854465 261988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there's a lot of overlapping communities. < 1571854473 211269 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :creating? I don't know, the details are lots in the mists of time < 1571854487 251671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC channel grew out of the old esolangs mailing list, which grew out of the older esolangs mailing list. < 1571854500 47829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really remember the history of the wiki side of things. < 1571854505 993143 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so that mailing list that kspalaiologos mentioned, that really exists? < 1571854506 528839 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :told you we had a mailing list < 1571854522 397991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were two I knew of. < 1571854539 389355 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g, I've got a few important things to do < 1571854542 914214 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farewell < 1571854548 798979 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1571854559 953728 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ais523 or oerjan created the wiki so that people don't spam en.wikipedia with nonsense articles about esoteric languages < 1571854561 826106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.sange.fi/archive/ is the newer one. < 1571854604 408087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graue was much involved in running the wiki, according to their article from 2005 to 2012. < 1571854646 336420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before the sange.fi mailing lists, there was another mailing list, but I don't really remember any details about that one. < 1571854659 293711 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, bust be, https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=6 is the first edit there is < 1571854677 523819 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's by Graue < 1571854770 50360 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=rights says that ais523 was a wiki admin starting from 2007-03 < 1571854772 862327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, I think the earlier mailing list was the catseye one. < 1571854812 813519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in ~/archive/backup/older/colin/oldhome_old2.tar.gz:old2/Mail/lists/lang-eso I have few emails sent to list@catseye.mb.ca. < 1571854822 335725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm very organized with my files, as you can tell.) < 1571854836 296493 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also oerjan was wiki admin since 2013-07 and you fizzie since 2017-03 < 1571854845 490438 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1571854847 451432 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mistype < 1571854851 315554 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also oerjan was wiki admin since 2013-07 and you fizzie since 2014-03 < 1571854949 727860 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need statues in the garden to know who founded what < 1571854987 895781 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with plaques on them explaining things < 1571854991 989821 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello / good morning < 1571855011 81190 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1571855735 970738 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1571855781 538593 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the wiki was created in 2005-04, but the channel is older, because we have logs for 2002-12 < 1571855810 758235 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we do have a discord, despite that wisdom doesn't know about, because the wiki does know about an unofficial Esolangs Discord server < 1571855848 421704 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`' discord < 1571855849 226173 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571855882 415191 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn discord//The unofficial Esolangs and code golf Discord server: https://discord.gg/3UXSK5p < 1571855886 408103 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? discord < 1571855889 94223 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'discord': The unofficial Esolangs and code golf Discord server: https://discord.gg/3UXSK5p < 1571855891 112464 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The unofficial Esolangs and code golf Discord server: https://discord.gg/3UXSK5p < 1571855893 518742 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q discord < 1571855894 665549 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1571855921 445260 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccc < 1571855922 568780 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IOCCC is the Industrial Ordovician COBOL Conference Circuit. Not to be confused with OIC. See also ioccclist. < 1571856156 625245 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://leefallat.ca/notes/p-lang/strings-form-a-group.html - thoughts? < 1571856348 682847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: The mailing list archive has a few threads on starting up this channel. < 1571856349 130511 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is "hello"^-1 supposed to be < 1571856354 914068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Search for "Esolang IRC channel" in http://esoteric.sange.fi/archive/2002-q4 for example. < 1571856399 534559 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(never mind that examples are not proofs most of the time) < 1571856445 813066 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: you(?) should really stop at monoid, while you're ahead. < 1571856477 53894 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's supposed to be a 'negative' string < 1571856484 692236 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a free one? < 1571856511 670007 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you're right, I should not use the word proof at all. < 1571856531 62351 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: sure, that's a bonus < 1571856536 675454 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? string theory < 1571856537 704225 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :string theory? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571856555 602965 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: whatever it is, it's not a string < 1571856579 450503 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? string diagram < 1571856580 516971 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :String diagrams would be useful in category theory, except they're unreadable due to being curled up in tiny dimensions. Taneb invented them anyhow. < 1571856621 154946 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat wisdom/fu*aneb < 1571856622 824978 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fundamental Theorem of Taneb states that for all strings S, if S describes a thing not involving sex, then it is provable that Taneb invented the thing described by S; and, furthermore, that it is provable that there exists a string T that describes a thing not involving sex that Taneb did not invent. < 1571856623 789069 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monoid is also left- and right-cancellative < 1571856649 616583 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? computer < 1571856650 797670 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer is a language where numbers are strings of the characters '1' and '0'. < 1571856660 310143 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: It is a string < 1571856667 422893 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All strings belong in some set S < 1571856679 88189 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I'm out of this discussion. < 1571856680 327633 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this includes "negative strings" that I just made up < 1571856697 770706 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is like saying -1 is not a number < 1571856712 445215 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote jits < 1571856712 676490 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a natural number. < 1571856713 66948 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :564) fizzie: It's like a JIT, if JITs were... strings. < 1571856714 818875 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why cant -"hello" be a string? < 1571856725 325179 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1571856762 70072 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: Because strings aren't defined that way. Strings are finite sequences over some alphabet. < 1571856783 931219 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... < 1571856823 479172 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what, you want me to call "hello" a natural string, and -"hello" a Z-string or something ("integer string" would be extremely confusing) < 1571856844 220146 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no no. they're members of the free monoid (semigroup with zero) over an alphabet. the non-algebraic definitions are for kindergarten. < 1571856846 991007 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to make a fool out of yourself, you're welcome to do that. If you want to re-invent free groups, that's also a viable route, but the objects will no longer be strings. < 1571856860 338194 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1571856862 979654 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to learn :) < 1571856888 539459 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm ok with being wrong - so you're saying check out free groups - ok. < 1571856920 351997 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I understand what you mean by "these arent strings", as in, strings have a very absolute definition < 1571856936 906390 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what would you propose to call them? < 1571856947 518346 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess anything other than strings... < 1571857184 812807 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thank you :) < 1571857192 142681 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So definitely a free group < 1571857350 960527 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1571857365 758036 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually what I defined does actually correspond to a group < 1571857416 766906 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thing is a sentence" * -"is" == -"is" * "thing is a sentence" == "thing a sentence" < 1571857747 62773 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An example of an element of the free group on two generators is ab^2a^(-1), which is not equal to b^2." < 1571857760 342299 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is not the case in what I wrote < 1571857808 264034 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"o" * "h" * "e" * "ll" * -"o" does equal "hell" < 1571858498 922058 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1571858690 81092 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1571858799 336213 :ornxka!~ornx@unaffiliated/ornx PRIVMSG #esoteric :is forth an esoteric language < 1571858843 598155 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1571858929 294621 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's the case then we've sent an esolang to space. < 1571858950 66205 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1571858970 179845 :ornxka!~ornx@unaffiliated/ornx PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot damn < 1571858975 729626 :ornxka!~ornx@unaffiliated/ornx PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats impressive < 1571859816 461327 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : "o" * "h" * "e" * "ll" * -"o" does equal "hell" => seems trickier than free groups, yeah < 1571859836 732402 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just removes all instances of "o" < 1571859841 563140 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty simple imo < 1571859849 104851 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are many instances of "o" in that *string, which ones would be removed when * -"o"? < 1571859851 290520 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you remove just one 'o'. < 1571859855 355006 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, all < 1571859862 292199 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont < 1571859864 259471 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ imode < 1571859875 471228 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :brutal. so there are find/replace operations that are not possible. < 1571859886 833505 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find/replace is something all on its own. < 1571859891 141417 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I ask the question... < 1571859896 390213 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the bottom of my writing < 1571859899 713324 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to say “rigid” too :D < 1571859909 914855 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Maybe strings should be promoted to a more restrictive structure?" < 1571859910 873258 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from reordering the operations. < 1571859931 555627 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe strings alone are not useful < 1571859943 734402 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to explore it with you guys :) < 1571859960 681533 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: what do you mean, more restrictive? < 1571859967 464643 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more laws to satisfy < 1571859973 893813 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can reorder the operations such that any 'o' you want to remove just has to be affixed with a * -'o'. < 1571859982 856700 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So our new structure would "require to implement find/replace" < 1571859993 164002 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see < 1571860003 34682 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 'h' * 'e' * 'l' * 'l' * 'o' * -'o' * 'o' wouldn't be "helloo", it'd be "hello". < 1571860013 324191 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this implies an ordering of an operation. < 1571860013 748555 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, then we have a free group < 1571860028 415648 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe you do. any deviation from that order gives you a different result. < 1571860042 91802 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"o" * "h" * -"o" then equals what? < 1571860054 363713 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :'h'. < 1571860061 155746 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a free group...it equals "oh-o" < 1571860061 700178 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we need to have some good operations so that find/replace is neatly expressible? < 1571860074 873257 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a group, by MY definition, it's "h". < 1571860094 42049 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: yes, preferably 1 operation < 1571860102 175331 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: I think imode proposes deleting the last one occurence < 1571860113 125035 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. stepwise application. < 1571860114 475105 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ah_ < 1571860120 931713 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be between free group and deleting all occurrences < 1571860136 197194 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello" ? ("el","zz") < 1571860142 934831 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now we are creating a new thing < 1571860152 645399 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intersection of two sets < 1571860156 332291 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, preferably 1 operation => but now we already got two, * and - < 1571860157 213233 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strings and some pair type < 1571860161 821558 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :'h' * 'e' -> "he". "he" * 'l' * 'l' -> "hell". "hell" * 'o' -> "hello". "hello" * -'o' -> "hell". "hell" * 'o' -> "hello". < 1571860167 444466 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I mean 1 additional operation :) < 1571860197 401074 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: now what about "ohell" * -"o" ? < 1571860197 477697 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :strings with concatenation don't form a group. < 1571860197 552303 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can use string zippers < 1571860209 343717 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if they did, then "hello" == "olleh". < 1571860217 566216 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode with concat alone, just a monoid, yes < 1571860224 931115 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an uncooked esolang Punctree which deals with tree zippers < 1571860226 230717 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr? < 1571860232 600783 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some nice operations < 1571860237 608072 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello is a different string to olleh < 1571860255 28314 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :string zipper? < 1571860257 468612 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're defining a string to be a result of several `*`s, it can't be if it's a group. < 1571860258 258153 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :like substitution, which is inconceivable for strings without holes < 1571860274 186190 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: you've lost me :) < 1571860279 339314 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :string zipper? => like list zipper, but for list of chars < 1571860292 697440 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remember zipper is some fp structure or function < 1571860305 515337 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1571860310 877438 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I'm wrong. the ordering is relevant, so I'm wrong. < 1571860331 47563 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a shameless self-something: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Punctree and there are a couple of links added by IIRC int-e < 1571860342 135196 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :to pages about zippers specifically < 1571860347 258584 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get why people say "Shameless plug" < 1571860356 248001 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :plugging yourself is seen as shameless. < 1571860363 86785 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/shameless/shameful < 1571860364 964505 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? So why say it at all? < 1571860365 72603 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my clumsy description would get more comprehensive < 1571860378 820577 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :shameless self promotion fits in the same vein. < 1571860388 122804 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :shameless composition with the channel’s continuation < 1571860392 930757 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like saying "excuse my rudeness" *does something extremely rude* < 1571860394 939530 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it delimited one < 1571860418 687246 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO linking to your own things is ok. In fact I encourage it, because people dont share their own stuff enough < 1571860419 634079 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: or knocking and then opening the door immediately < 1571860425 140144 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, yeah < 1571860427 320397 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a goodone < 1571860447 42350 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: I agree, people should share their stuff with me so I’ll be a good borg < 1571860451 601567 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :we* < 1571860460 352680 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: this lang is too alien for me right now :D < 1571860472 464836 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ζ↙ < 1571860479 378973 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain=exploded < 1571860486 913352 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay but you can believe that there are many neat operations to do on zippers! < 1571860494 653520 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure! :D < 1571860495 951189 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I like APL too < 1571860506 969490 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the real APL, but nonetheless < 1571860531 770053 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :then some day you’ll make something with string zippers maybe < 1571860560 684512 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are some math operators that take more than 2 operands < 1571860580 994311 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe strings need to be "lifted" to something like a list < 1571860624 825098 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :strings are already lists, of characters < 1571860641 43514 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably misunderstood < 1571860653 84740 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :["hello ", name, " how are you?"] * ["", " with a hat", ""] == "hello lf94 with a hat how are you?" < 1571860679 464194 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo this is a pretty cool < 1571860697 512410 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh format strings! < 1571860700 327322 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting closer to replace i think < 1571860714 721697 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now * is operating on each element < 1571860719 859564 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like matrix operations < 1571860774 939804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1571860805 551122 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :["hello ", name, " how are you?"] * ["", -"lf94" * "bob", ""] == "hello bob how are you?" < 1571860812 353633 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very basic replace. < 1571860837 562653 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list gives control of position < 1571860927 314658 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax sugar would be required to specify "delete everything" < 1571860946 60728 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be written as -"a" * -"b" * ... I think < 1571860985 42124 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, no < 1571861035 992383 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a" * -"a" == ""; "a" * "a" == "aa"; thus -"a" * -"a" = -"aa" ?, which would remove all instances of 2 a's < 1571861053 523074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : b_jonas: what's all that about <-- i'd say b_jonas is showing scan-dalous behaviour there < 1571861100 419926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think our resident poetry scanner would know better < 1571861290 252346 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? "resident poetry scanner"? < 1571861292 203172 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is that? < 1571861297 791606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1571861346 105325 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1571861351 582195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who else uploads entire poetry pooks to wikimedia commons... < 1571861361 4438 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are real poetry, not English stuff < 1571861390 891945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :must resist... urge to `addquote < 1571861409 864732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's no excuse for not knowing scansion < 1571861423 510909 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man this is cool. "" * "" = ""; "" * -"" = -""; thus "a" * -"" = -"a"; which means -"" will remove everything when applied to any other string. < 1571861469 664112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a proper ring twh < 1571861607 953600 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: English poetry isn't real poetry, they just call it poetry because it's the best replacement that they have for real poetry, which is impossible for English < 1571861615 37333 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't understand how "scansion" or whatever works in it < 1571861636 163471 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it depends on how English pronunciation is supposed to work, which not only I don't understand, but other people don't either < 1571861649 861776 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least different people understand it differently < 1571861676 946602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand it perfectly well, until i look it up in wiktionary and see i was wrong, or at least a minority < 1571861691 607877 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't believe Wiktionary < 1571861712 135337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1571861795 115255 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try CAAPR, it's a reasonably well done pronunciation list < 1571861806 226322 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small one, so only common words are in it < 1571861815 228421 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's good quality and consistent and well thought out < 1571861819 812874 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if the notation is a bit weird < 1571861837 612544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CAAPR: the Comprehensive & Adaptable Aperture Photometry Routine" < 1571861849 770077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that will help with pronunciation. < 1571861881 290672 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wyrdplay.org/AlanBeale/CAAPR-ref.html < 1571861932 490587 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's compiled by the author of 12dicts ("http://wordlist.aspell.net/12dicts/") < 1571861967 510227 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned it on this channel a few months ago < 1571862022 778432 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as for how you go from there to English poetry, I've no idea < 1571862125 420122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already regret starting this conversation hth < 1571862141 116125 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1571862156 406738 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the original topic, feel free to edit that higgedly wisdom of course < 1571862248 324930 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I think my compact camera finally died < 1571862252 5519 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to buy a new one < 1571863496 198313 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1571864039 444057 :MDude!~MDude@c-174-55-101-236.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1571864063 658831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hppavilion[1]: except the hg log is truncated, I don't know why, so if you look way back in the revisions, you won't find the oldest stuff <-- GregorR used to reset history occasionally in the beginning, before we started depending on it being accurate < 1571864095 244102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the last time was in 2013 or so < 1571864098 975906 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1571864108 940083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowt zzo38 < 1571864110 695142 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:2012-02-16 Initïal import. < 1571864126 442240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe 2012 then < 1571864705 868192 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -T "{date|shortdate}" -r 1 < 1571864707 808436 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-02-19 < 1571864713 44141 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1571864719 392259 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't trust revision 0) < 1571865358 388740 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, unrelated video game stuff. I think the Game Boy could easily handle a tetris game where the blocks are 7 pixel tall rather than 8. you'd need tiles that combine parts of two blocks in different ways, but it fits in the tiles array with three colors of blocks, and I think the CPU could handle it too (you'd probably need to use sprites for the currently falling block, and update the tiles only during < 1571865364 376510 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lockdown) < 1571865398 697560 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with the Game Boy tetris game is that there are only 18 rows, because 20 rows of 8 pixels don't fit in the screen, but you really want at least 20 rows for a tetris game < 1571865411 519136 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 7 pixels tall, even if unnatural for a game boy game, could do that < 1571865527 463479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kspalaiologos: cp? don't you use symlinks? <-- you should not put symlinks to tmp/ , everything there is potentially irreversibly deleted at any time < 1571865629 2295 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I misread the commands. I realized later. < 1571865648 6232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1571865664 926823 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the cp was to install the program from the build directory; I assumed it was already installed under /hackenv/lib and he's just linking it to /hackenv/bin < 1571865681 43457 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a single-file executable, so the cp was all it took to install < 1571866745 812452 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1571866821 364511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think ais523 or oerjan created the wiki so that people don't spam en.wikipedia with nonsense articles about esoteric languages <-- i think you make up things hth < 1571866943 484686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, some people try to do that anyway < 1571867028 509670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the actual wikipedia article about esolangs keeps growing dubious examples but i don't dare to prune it because i know someone might be inspired to delete the examples i actually _like_ that don't have their own articles (like Piet) < 1571867052 605919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some other people have pruned on occasion < 1571867263 678558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? #esoteric < 1571867264 866766 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperenchilada about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. Currently located in the Atlantis Exclusion Zone. < 1571867370 878327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/q < 1571867371 528608 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote "$@" < 1571867771 72106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? forth < 1571867773 188220 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since Biblical times, Forth has been the go-to language for multiplication. < 1571868104 463999 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Excess Flood < 1571868130 318991 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1571868158 302173 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; cd wisdom; printf "%s// " *eso* < 1571868158 932015 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric// #esoteric-blah// esosc// esoteric// esoteric files archive// esoterra// esowiki// hackeso// ingesorgeco// mesolang// < 1571868261 672603 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esoteric < 1571868262 758693 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet. < 1571868289 179515 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ these channels, the ones mentioned in welcome, do we know if they still exist? I wonder if we're sending people to channels that have been gone for five years or something < 1571868305 446109 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we should send a volunteer to check once every decade < 1571868351 715913 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` \? welcome | sed 's/.*((//' < 1571868352 958126 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) < 1571868359 210353 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1571868462 40417 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: as I was washing dishes, I remembered what a zipper was. < 1571868470 935332 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find and replace is complete now. < 1571868504 579132 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(("hello my big world" % " ") ? "big") * ["", -"", ""] * ["", "small", ""] == "hello my small world" < 1571868527 366787 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :% is split, ? is find (and returns a zipper of [before, found, after]), and the rest we talked about. < 1571868543 707052 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1571868555 597482 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's also impossible for the line to fail < 1571868564 62757 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if "big" isnt found, it'll use empty string < 1571868569 353034 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning nothing is replaced < 1571868640 409053 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe add composition of two or several zippers, it would just nest them like a fir < 1571868676 917353 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah and ! is join < 1571868683 790294 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and walks left/right < 1571868717 382328 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm how could one insert between fragments? < 1571868734 309484 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :example? < 1571868761 85992 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, insert something right before "big" in that example < 1571868772 957648 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :but leave "big" intact < 1571868789 686711 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, we could replace it with "somethingother big" < 1571868830 940393 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but maybe this profits from a shorter syntax) < 1571868839 485219 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :will go sleeping soon < 1571868894 492734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : perhaps we should send a volunteer to check once every decade <-- sounds good, i'm sure it's been less than that. < 1571869136 654369 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed, less than a decade yet < 1571869245 308885 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: yeah exactly < 1571869259 670430 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, er, no! < 1571869270 475759 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just this < 1571869287 260429 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :["", "somethingother", ""] * (("hello my big world" % " ") ? "big") < 1571869295 431590 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so awesome < 1571869359 253668 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -T "{rev}:{date}:{desc}\n" -r 378 # this was the commit that first added dalnet < 1571869359 553010 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that covers find/replace/insert/delete < 1571869360 252417 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :378:1336334759.00: learn Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1571869374 190259 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -T "{rev}:{date|shortdate}:{desc}\n" -r 378 # with date < 1571869375 325963 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :378:2012-05-06: learn Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1571869386 613757 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -T "{rev}:{date|shortdate}:{desc}\n" -r 5372 # and this much more recent one added efnet < 1571869387 601915 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :5372:2015-05-24: sed -i \'s/on irc.*/on EFnet or DALnet.)/\' wisdom/welcome < 1571869393 510954 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so both less than a decade ago < 1571869395 86467 :lf94!~lf94@unaffiliated/lf94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can make a text editor now < 1571869546 947646 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we should schedule the checking of the dalnet one to 2022 < 1571869569 339760 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have an #esoteric calendar? < 1571869874 984458 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :lf94: :) < 1571870008 110421 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : do we have an #esoteric calendar? => tomorrow is the day of eicosapentation of common/uncommon radices! < 1571870020 205764 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(8 is the common one, 10 is uncommon) < 1571870073 909479 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :established since, and up to, eleven < 1571870214 177532 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: you mean like, tomorrow is the 25th day of the month? < 1571870226 162589 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't make sense of what you mean by all those other numbers < 1571870232 356234 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ddate < 1571870233 39694 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Sweetmorn, the 4th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3185 < 1571870246 693087 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to write “comment/uncomment radices” but that’s ungrammatical and too radical < 1571870266 272223 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : I can't make sense of what you mean by all those other numbers => why, you know that october is the eight month < 1571870281 596573 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :eighth* < 1571870295 644269 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :there’s even a helpful hth in there < 1571870299 9170 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1571870325 561647 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1571870326 853457 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth ([ʰtʰh̩]) is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1571870346 914194 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1571870366 356094 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow is the 25th day of the month => that’s not esoteric, contrary it’s pretty obvious < 1571870428 683605 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t know if I’m joking or not < 1571870448 913409 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-26.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? title < 1571870449 929428 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Titles J. K. Rowling had specifically denied on her webpage would be the titles of the sixth or seventh Harry Potter book are: Harry Potter and the{ Green Flame Torch, Mountain of Fantasy, Fortress of Shadows, Forest of Shadows, Graveyard of Memories, Pyramids of Furmat, Pillar of Storgé, Toenail of Icklibõgg}. < 1571870517 163028 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ddate < 1571870518 239931 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddate? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1571870613 219671 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I wasn’t attentive when read how others asked to show help on commands < 1571871152 389088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably, ddate isn't really a HackE[sg]o command. < 1571871157 278320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just the standard ddate. < 1571871166 46861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ddate < 1571871166 625179 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/ddate < 1571871260 380698 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1571871277 76635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had /var mounted, we could probably look which package it was coming from, but for some reason the standard umlbox base mount points only include /usr, /bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib32, /lib64, /etc/alternatives and /dev. < 1571871320 627741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a lot of /var doesn't really make sense inside the box though, while having a shared /usr is more normal. < 1571872250 891533 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.23.205.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1571874344 737511 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-npcepdwkfdthaoql QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1571874635 92466 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What name would make sense for this operation? a?b = ln(e^a + e^b) < 1571874647 306221 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By analogy with a*b = ln(e^a * e*b) < 1571874667 619809 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a?a = a+1. Almost but not quite like making addition repeated '?' < 1571874858 517949 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :a?a = ln(e^a + e^a) = ln(2e^a) = ln(e^a) + ln(2) = a + ln(2), not a + 1. < 1571875000 585742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1571875004 740909 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. Pretend I said a?b = log_2(2^a + 2^b) < 1571875021 954990 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1571875107 230902 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm might be fun to find a base such that a?a = a+2