< 1572999045 298999 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1573000057 765487 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1573000765 481105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1573001457 133418 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1573001472 71252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Echo Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66980&oldid=64998 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-2) 10/* Computational class */ I think this should be the other way around to ensure the *first* symbol of a block of m is used < 1573001518 348282 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1573001544 457306 :iczero!iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1573001573 557033 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1573001690 549567 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1573001705 15978 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1573001711 582529 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1573001756 644249 :iczero!iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero JOIN :#esoteric > 1573001870 124541 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tag system14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66981&oldid=49076 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+163) 10/* Definition */ Remark on variants < 1573001954 160841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I noted that the Echo Tag proof seems to implement Post's original version.) < 1573002297 983984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :posix_spawn is probably better than fork() in theory, but every time I try to use it it's miserable. < 1573002301 168018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that about? < 1573002661 423037 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it starts with "posix" < 1573002864 906147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"posix_spawn_file_actions_adddup2" that's quite a name < 1573003046 645730 :hppavilion[2]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573003214 739954 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1573003399 645736 :hppavilion[2]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1573003625 19001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why can't I just pass in a data structure? < 1573003630 219511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I gotta worry about allocation failures. < 1573004892 949959 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1573005002 6040 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1573006404 645857 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric > 1573009288 911127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07The Program Is Mostly Ignored14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66982&oldid=66979 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10/* When the blockchain has a green block */ I think this is off-by-one (or equivalently, counted in the wrong direction) < 1573009942 569978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1573010199 947511 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@2601:602:8581:1420:1966:d114:f211:ee8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573011868 542007 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bqrlwuaammkgaqzb JOIN :#esoteric < 1573012258 130621 :syncracer!~grafkrypt@46.114.4.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573012512 952873 :nfd!~nfd9001@2601:602:8581:1420:1966:d114:f211:ee8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573012539 778423 :syncracer!~grafkrypt@46.114.4.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1573012623 954531 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@2601:602:8581:1420:1966:d114:f211:ee8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1573012724 460815 :syncracer!~grafkrypt@46.114.4.8 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1573012731 719843 :syncracer!~grafkrypt@46.114.4.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573012764 689532 :syncracer!~grafkrypt@46.114.4.8 QUIT :Client Quit < 1573012926 942041 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@2601:602:8581:1420:1966:d114:f211:ee8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573013091 954707 :nfd!~nfd9001@2601:602:8581:1420:1966:d114:f211:ee8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1573013283 339541 :nfd!~nfd9001@2601:602:8581:1420:1966:d114:f211:ee8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573013307 966039 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@2601:602:8581:1420:1966:d114:f211:ee8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1573013513 898392 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-67-183-33-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1573013643 337825 :nfd!~nfd9001@2601:602:8581:1420:1966:d114:f211:ee8 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1573026122 409233 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1573026130 605351 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1573028046 376047 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-40.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1573032268 869954 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.44.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1573033295 658946 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1573033496 987475 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573034165 869184 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573034357 303790 :impomatic!56b97c95@host86-185-124-149.range86-185.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1573035392 454569 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1573035938 909574 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Queue14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=66983 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (+157) 10Created page with "== What additional methods make queue-based languages TC? == --~~~~" < 1573036455 705000 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bqrlwuaammkgaqzb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1573037796 866312 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573038578 884262 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-67-183-33-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1573042938 858482 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: reboot < 1573043402 873853 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1573043598 311944 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1573045467 972121 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iagrckttiikdnkuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1573048742 985077 :ais523_!93bcc3ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573048822 795884 :ais523_!93bcc3ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're right, it was off by 1, I realised that while offline earlier, and was going to fix it myself but you got there first > 1573049839 670651 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Queue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66984&oldid=66983 5* 03A 5* (+204) 10 > 1573049942 22969 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Queue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66985&oldid=66984 5* 03A 5* (+62) 10/* They are sufficient enough to simulate a tape. */ < 1573050578 899316 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1573050709 410329 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-b04856-154.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1573051175 226865 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1573051384 949535 :ais523_!93bcc3ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.202 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1573054198 323606 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573054351 267920 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has been trying to prove Full Stack TC
< 1573054402 169209 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's complex because Front End has only 26 bytes of storage + the instruction pointer; I'm pretty convinced at this point that if it supported Unicode variable names it'd be TC, but there's some definite doubt as to whether the 26 bytes are enough < 1573054695 972517 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a new language < 1573054734 215056 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, literally "26 bytes of storage + the instruction pointer"? doesn't that mean that it's definitely not TC? < 1573054754 373419 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: there are two languages involved < 1573054775 44230 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1573054776 124379 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Front End is an intentionally sub-TC language; Full Stack repeatedly runs Front End on its own source code < 1573054822 524130 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1573055394 775902 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: whenever I hear of an esoteric language that has a core that sounds like it should be turing-complete, but a seemingly arbitrary restriction to too little addressable memory, and I think it's unrealistic (eg. https://esolangs.org/wiki/?curid=10192 ), I should think of the ATARI 2600 BASIC Programming cart, a high-level programming < 1573055395 269556 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :language for a machine with 128 bytes of RAM. < 1573055449 480143 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who really needs any more than that < 1573055532 861727 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written programs for the Sharp EL-5120, which has 2 kilobytes of RAM, of which 1141 bytes are for program source code. 128 bytes sounds crazy. < 1573055620 780532 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The annoying part of https://esolangs.org/wiki/?curid=10192 is that it's practically impossible to extend. The meaning of all instructions is completely defined, the addres space is completely occupied by RAM, and since it's only 256 nibbles, you can't even reserve a little of it and hope that programs won't use it, because prorgams want to use all < 1573055621 312924 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 of it. < 1573055688 627683 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't many language that feel that impossible to extend. < 1573056083 31555 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1573059332 977409 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1573059612 16447 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're reminding me of my plan to add output to Echo Tag in a backwards-compatible way < 1573059645 337131 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to 0 and 1, there's an O command which acts like 0 in most respects, but when an O in the queue causes a production to be skipped, that production's bit is output < 1573059754 779666 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iagrckttiikdnkuu QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1573059757 25744 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1573060106 904843 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.44.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1573061666 837866 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-2e8456-205.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1573061729 493008 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is "hello, world!" TC? < 1573061735 276320 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a great idea for a language, at least < 1573062053 121362 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it wouldn't surprise me if it were an LBA, the command set reminds me a bit of BuzzFizz, but it's less obviously TinC < 1573062876 671646 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573063052 737114 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1573063500 983328 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.44.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1573063695 370983 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573064002 694430 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1573064061 361687 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573065931 53839 :ais523_!93bcc3da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.218 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1573066285 898577 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1573066979 97312 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1573067483 431765 :MDude!AdiIRC@c-174-55-101-236.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) > 1573068613 995708 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07List of ideas/Archive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66986&oldid=38997 5* 03CMinusMinus 5* (+36) 10 < 1573070504 949860 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1573071338 455510 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language has it's programs having highest entropy on average? < 1573071360 234578 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking about 05AB1E and all that golfing stuff < 1573071369 753756 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not certainly sure is this the case < 1573071391 168250 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly someone made a programming language with even more complex instruction set < 1573071395 318910 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so programs are denser and denser < 1573071824 412685 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1573072149 960570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric > 1573073353 475031 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Queue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66987&oldid=66985 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+270) 10Not much needed > 1573073548 680160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Queue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66988&oldid=62461 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+76) 10/* Use in esolangs */ Add BCT < 1573073599 618084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what > 1573073758 968016 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Queue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66989&oldid=66987 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+259) 10Oops, managed to not notice I was editing old version < 1573073791 437606 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-144.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1573076587 595929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparing sleeve colors with previous strips, i think that may be martellus in the last girl genius strip. which would make sense given the reaction. < 1573076589 661616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1573076617 801748 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhout < 1573076667 650675 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1573079754 372298 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1573079832 956188 :upupbb-user3!~puppy@102.49.172.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1573080266 186403 :upupbb-user3!~puppy@102.49.172.114 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1573082644 523532 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-144.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear fungot, please prepare to upload the next o strip tomorrow < 1573082644 604353 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: so, i know that. now that my hands. < 1573082675 767602 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-144.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, your thumb will never be the same after that accident, such is life