00:04:00 -!- Lykaina_ has changed nick to Lykaina. 00:06:09 [[(0)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67305&oldid=63328 * B jonas * (+243) /* Properties of (0) */ 00:07:17 -!- kingoffrance has left ("x"). 00:28:29 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 00:29:53 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:53:07 @messages-loud 00:53:07 fizzie said 11h 59m 17s ago: Well, I fixed it, but I don't know why. Something to do with using a host-side opened /dev/null fd instead of the UML 'null' channel for some inputs/outputs. I don't 00:53:07 want to think about it any more. 00:53:07 kspalaiologos said 6h 53m 45s ago: greets! Are you the person who made Malbolge Unshackled? 00:53:41 . o O ( fizzie found a Feathery bug ) 00:54:10 @tell kspalaiologos Yes. I thought the Wiki page said so... 00:54:11 Consider it noted. 00:54:20 ^wiki Malbolge Unshackled 00:54:20 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Malbolge Unshackled 00:56:09 @tell kspalaiologos I suppose you need to click through to my name to find the nick. 00:56:09 Consider it noted. 01:01:37 -!- sftp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:11:15 ^echo hi 01:11:15 hi hi 01:11:22 -!- oerjan has changed nick to oerbot. 01:11:25 ^echo hi 01:11:25 hi hi 01:11:30 -!- oerbot has changed nick to oerjan. 01:12:16 * oerjan was wondering if fizzie had ignored bfbot by hand or had a .*bot rule 01:12:31 =quine 01:12:31 ^quine 01:12:46 definitely looks ignored 01:12:52 =echo fungot 01:12:52 oerjan: 1. ps is missing a " from" 01:12:52 fungot 01:18:18 `` echo $HOME # Hm, I didn't realize this was set. <-- i always thought that was to prevent junk from programs that like to create .config files there 01:18:43 -!- sftp has joined. 01:19:56 [[Brainfuck Contest 1]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67306&oldid=56282 * Odog8 * (+53) 01:20:23 oh and i guess it also prevents people from _creating_ .config files to mess up programs. 01:26:39 By hand. 01:29:04 `` echo $HOME 01:29:04 ​/tmp 01:31:12 `? delquote 01:31:13 delquote? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 01:34:02 `5 01:34:08 1/2:414) It's ok guys. I am doing what I can to keep my psyche and ego surviving. All the while the threat of ww3 looms, the mortality of family and friends(loved ones?) and sooner or llater my own mortality. \ 915) maybe i was violated by a pole once \ 160) Thanks to nooga for constructive criticism, his ideas and being a constant annoyance. --http://theendisnear.no-ip.info/ \ 864) what is the linux equivalent 01:34:22 `n 01:34:23 2/2:e magical purple light which makes things glow if they have been involved in a crime kmc: nmap?? \ 135) alise, it works fine for irc but interactive stuff? no. 01:35:11 wat 01:35:51 `quote 864 01:35:52 864) what is the linux equivalent of the magical purple light which makes things glow if they have been involved in a crime kmc: nmap?? 01:36:02 Hmm. 01:36:13 `delquote 135 01:36:15 ​*poof* alise, it works fine for irc but interactive stuff? no. 01:36:35 i don't see the point of that one, without context. 01:36:45 Oh, I see, the username changed. 01:37:07 OUcH 01:37:07 It's HackEso!~HackEso@cloak now, it used to be HackEso!~h@cloak a while ago. 01:37:45 I must've wiped out the ~h patch when I moved from Mecurial to git for the code, I think it was just hand-patched in. 01:38:01 Well, that should hopefully be easy enough to fix. 01:39:01 Yeah, the multibot default is always the same as the nick, I think I had just locally edited it. 01:39:30 (incidentally, i was applying the traditional 1/5 quote purging method hth) 01:40:07 -!- HackEso has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:40:36 Hm. 01:40:40 It doesn't start. 01:40:59 . o O ( It was inevitable. ) 01:41:14 Oh, some sort of library versioning issue. 01:41:20 ./multibot: error while loading shared libraries: libevent_core-2.1.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 01:42:38 Odd. 01:43:25 in all that debugging yesterday, you never restarted the outer bot code? 01:43:46 Well, no, multibot's pretty dynamic like that. 01:44:04 Hm. Both systems have Debian 10 installed, but the machine where I build things has libevent-core-2.1-6:amd64 version 2.1.8-stable-4 while the container where it runs has libevent-core-2.0-5:amd64 version 2.0.21-stable-3. 01:44:20 I guess they're both installable in stable, and I just have the wrong one. 01:45:30 -!- HackEso has joined. 01:45:37 That's-a better. 01:46:01 `5 01:46:09 1/2:66) I can do everything a Turing machine can do, except love \ 900) Actually, just as a guess, J might be worse than APL because it's restricted to normal (ascii?) characters, I guess \ 1262) (make is an esoteric language) b_jonas: Most esolangs I've seen have more comprehensive docs than make \ 251) wow, thinkgeek really makes me hate being alive \ 1151) kmc: any chance one c 01:46:15 `n 01:46:16 2/2:an have a box full of tnt to throw around 01:46:38 Nice 01:47:31 `delquote 251 01:47:33 ​*poof* wow, thinkgeek really makes me hate being alive 02:11:26 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:12:11 -!- sprocklem has joined. 02:12:53 -!- xkapastel has joined. 02:16:48 `slwd kspalaiologos//s,$,., 02:16:50 kspalaiologos//kspalaiologos is a brainfuck addict. He's secretly disassembling brainfuck code for a casino that lost the source code. Apparently knows the secret of Malbolge. 02:35:32 is Cindy about to go full von Neumann probe 02:42:27 A green goo scenario. 03:02:50 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:13:48 -!- sprocklem has joined. 03:40:29 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 03:56:54 -!- imode has joined. 04:00:50 -!- sprocklem has joined. 04:48:29 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 05:38:28 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:04:40 -!- hppavilion[1] has joined. 06:49:13 -!- sprocklem has joined. 06:52:07 -!- kspalaiologos has joined. 06:52:17 Greets 06:52:30 oerjan: I've been asking 06:52:56 Because I wasn't sure about do you realize that I made a chess game and a minesweeper in your language 06:59:57 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:03:13 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 07:19:21 -!- sprocklem has joined. 07:33:17 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:34:59 kspalaiologos: i'd be a bit more impressed if you didn't also go on about how large and slow the programs are ;) btw you're the second person i've noticed who has found out how to program it. i'm not one of them. 07:39:29 -!- sprocklem has joined. 07:48:38 oerjan: c'mon, I needed to use lookup tables to add 07:48:51 It's impossible to do this in some more performant way 07:49:42 I've also wasted time on Seed 07:49:57 And I'm possibly third person in existence to break it 07:52:18 -!- mniip has quit (Ping timeout: 608 seconds). 07:57:35 i know, i upvoted some of your Seed submissions 07:57:47 -!- mniip has joined. 07:58:42 also i shouldn't _really_ be talking about speed, it's not something i'm good at optimizing (see: the actual Malbolge Unshackled reference interpreter) 08:00:56 kspalaiologos: btw interpreters that have reliable rotation width growth are cheating imo 08:01:39 i spent way to much time thinking about how make it as uselessly non-dependable as possible :P 08:01:43 *too 08:18:46 "lunevka" getting away could be very bad, because she's just learned that all she needs to become a queen is to transfer herself to an organic body... 08:19:45 well, possibly it needs to be a spark body. 08:21:48 [[Pass]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67307 * A * (+784) Created page with "[[Pass]] is a *practical* language. I am putting this documentation here because I am unsure whether this language is esoteric enough. == Language quick-reference == * (..." 08:29:13 I'm still waiting for P?dre's lantern to drop. 08:31:15 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67308&oldid=67307 * A * (+1251) 08:34:36 Hmm, "a small fabber", are you *sure* this isn't the Force Multiplication chapter? 08:42:52 no, it's the Force Exponentiation chapter, obviously 08:44:00 `perl -euse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new("now"); $s = $d->new("2019-06-03"); $f = $s->calc($d, 0, "semi"); print $f->("%dys days"); 08:44:02 Not a CODE reference at -e line 1. 08:44:09 `perl -euse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new("now"); $s = $d->new("2019-06-03"); $f = $s->calc($d, 0, "semi"); print $f->printf("%dys days"); 08:44:12 172.364016203704 days 08:44:16 fizzie: thanks 08:44:44 `perl -euse Date::Manip::Date; $d = Date::Manip::Date->new("today"); $s = $d->new("2019-06-03"); $f = $s->calc($d, 0, "semi"); print $f->printf("%.2dys days"); 08:44:45 172.00 days 08:45:44 *yes 08:46:42 are those new force powers? 08:47:14 only if you're in the same force as schlock 08:55:24 -!- xkapastel has joined. 08:57:19 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 09:02:19 [[Treesolang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67309&oldid=67295 * Baidicoot * (+12) link to implementation 09:19:16 -!- b_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:48:23 -!- hppavilion[1] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 10:20:33 [[User:OsmineYT]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67310&oldid=67284 * OsmineYT * (+10) 10:20:41 [[User:OsmineYT]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67311&oldid=67310 * OsmineYT * (+1) 10:20:53 [[User:OsmineYT]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67312&oldid=67311 * OsmineYT * (+1) 10:22:17 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67313&oldid=67308 * A * (+115) /* Some basic functionalities */ That's almost the whole language. Wait 'til I define the complex operator system. 10:22:19 [[Bin-8]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67314 * OsmineYT * (+105) Created page with "bin-8 is an idea (WIP) for programming language. It's founded in 2019 by [[User:OsmineYT|User:OsmineYT]]." 10:23:24 [[Bin-8]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67315&oldid=67314 * OsmineYT * (+68) 10:23:31 [[Bin-8]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67316&oldid=67315 * OsmineYT * (-2) 10:23:38 [[Bin-8]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67317&oldid=67316 * OsmineYT * (-2) 10:24:22 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 10:25:28 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67318&oldid=67313 * A * (+379) Just saw Bin-8 and it is really amazing! 10:30:41 [[Bin-8]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67319&oldid=67317 * OsmineYT * (+188) 10:33:21 [[Bin-8]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67320&oldid=67319 * OsmineYT * (+0) 10:35:15 -!- aloril has joined. 10:44:03 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 10:50:34 -!- aloril has joined. 10:59:17 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:08:24 -!- aloril has joined. 11:12:10 @tell oerjan well, that's nice :p. I'm using really an Malbolge20 interpreter that is actually a subset of MU. 11:12:10 Consider it noted. 11:14:28 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 11:17:46 -!- aloril has joined. 11:19:03 -!- arseniiv has joined. 11:21:02 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 11:41:06 fungot, what is a coloom? is it a tool to unravel fabric into threads? a cotool to unravel fabric into threads? 11:41:07 wib_jonas: mmm... mayonnaise... fnord looks like it could be read by read... 11:43:12 you know how we have several quotes where fungоt gives an amusingly appropriate reply? we should try to brute force more of those, by finding something that he says often, then repeatedly asking a question to which that answer is relevant and finding the matching answers. we could make a brute-forcing bot for that. 11:44:46 feeding an ai with quoting its nonsense as reward 11:46:08 `quote 1213 11:46:10 1213) fungot, do you like running double exponential time algorithms? b_jonas: im not sure 11:46:15 `delquote 1213 11:46:19 ​*poof* fungot, do you like running double exponential time algorithms? b_jonas: im not sure 11:46:29 that one is not an amusingly relevant answer 11:46:41 `quote 1323 11:46:42 1323) #define __NR_oldolduname 59 fungot: what's your old old name? olsner: they decided not to waste any brain cells storing obscure unix silliness). 11:46:43 that one is 11:48:53 there are a lot of boring fungоt quotes though 11:52:19 . o O ( The main problem of Tic-Tac-Toe is that there are too many draws at the highest level of play. ) 11:55:33 int-e: that never stopped the fans of football 11:57:41 -!- aloril_ has joined. 11:58:37 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 12:08:06 fungot: miau 12:08:06 arseniiv: why do you not like optional arguments or bounds checking, so it is 12:08:35 fungot: why, I do love both of them, though bounds checking is better be a static one 12:08:35 arseniiv: i think you can translate a bf program 12:09:48 and suddenly that’s too much belief 12:09:52 Fungot is just bfbot with worse interpreter and Markov chains cmon 12:10:21 kspalaiologos: and written in a language of magic! 12:10:47 though don’t you have plans to incorporate a Markov chains into bfbot? 12:11:27 then we could have bot battles!^W^W^W^W^W^W 12:11:59 I mean, where two bots talk to each other until the sequential request limit 12:12:12 int-e: depending on what you consider hightest level of play, I wouldn't say that has to be a bad thing 12:12:13 ^lok 12:12:17 *lol 12:12:21 I could add them 12:12:32 Bfbot is written in Seed :) 12:12:46 It depends on telnet, tritium and some other garbage 12:12:53 i do prefer a game where perfect play on my part does not lead me to a loss if i wasn't the starting player 12:13:03 =echo a\b 12:13:04 ab 12:13:13 =echo a\x41b 12:13:14 ax41b 12:13:17 =echo a\\b 12:13:17 a\b 12:13:25 =echo a\081b 12:13:25 a081b 12:13:32 =echo a\101b 12:13:32 a101b 12:13:39 how is this supposed to work? 12:15:08 =src echo 12:15:08 No such command. Try =help. 12:15:20 =echo a\b\c 12:15:21 abc 12:15:34 kspalaiologos: why does the echo command swallow some backslashes? 12:15:50 Hmm 12:16:01 -!- aloril_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 12:16:06 Wait a second 12:16:26 =echo xyz\" 12:16:26 xyz" 12:16:35 Genuinely no idea 12:16:38 fungot: give me some backlashes 12:16:38 arseniiv: who is lytha ayth? xd a 2d fnord 12:16:48 =echo $1 12:16:48 $1 12:16:53 =echo \a\b\c\d\e\f\g\h\i\j\k\l\m\n\o\p\q\r\s\t\u\v\w\x\y\z 12:16:54 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12:17:02 Crap 12:17:07 fungot: if I was a bot too, would we be friends? 12:17:07 arseniiv: fnord, the public has power over! 12:17:07 What a weird bug 12:17:18 =echo \\A\B\C\D\E\F\G\H\I\J\K\L\M\N\O\P\Q\R\S\T\U\V\W\X\Y\Z 12:17:18 \ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ 12:17:22 =echo \A\B\C\D\E\F\G\H\I\J\K\L\M\N\O\P\Q\R\S\T\U\V\W\X\Y\Z 12:17:22 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ 12:17:38 kspalaiologos: it may be just that =echo is defined in a strange way 12:17:39 fungot: do you like ASCII, at last? 12:17:48 ah, sky is the limit or something 12:17:55 =str 1s ,[.,] 12:17:55 ok 12:17:55 Let's check the repo 12:17:58 =def 1echo1 12:17:58 ok, defined 'echo1' 12:18:08 =echo1 hello, \world. \a\b\c\d\e\f\g\h\i\j\k\l\m\n\o\p\q\r\s\t\u\v\w\x\y\z 12:18:08 hello, world. abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 12:18:12 nope 12:18:19 Wait 12:18:21 Hmm 12:18:57 =echo1 one \' two ' three \' four 12:18:57 one ' two ' three ' four 12:19:01 myname: this is a complaint that people have about high-level chess ;-) 12:19:35 Umm 12:19:36 int-e: people are stupid 12:19:44 These are escape sequences 12:19:52 Not a bug its a feature 12:19:59 Possibly related to bash being retarded 12:20:47 I need to rewrite it in some real language 12:23:11 =echo !"# $%&' ()*+ ,-./ 0123 4567 89:; <=>? @ABC DEFG HIJK LMNO PQRS TUVW XYZ[ \]^_ `abc defg hijk lmno pqrs tuvw xyz{ |}~ 12:23:11 !"# $%&' ()*+ ,-./ 0123 4567 89:; <=>? @ABC DEFG HIJK LMNO PQRS TUVW XYZ[ ]^_ `abc defg hijk lmno pqrs tuvw xyz{ |}~. 12:23:58 =echo and ¡¢£ ¤¥¦§ ¨©ª« ¬­®¯ °±²³ ´µ¶· ¸¹º» ¼½¾¿ ÀÁÂà ÄÅÆÇ ÈÉÊË ÌÍÎÏ ÐÑÒÓ ÔÕÖ× ØÙÚÛ ÜÝÞß àáâã äåæç èéêë ìíîï ðñòó ôõö÷ øùúû üýþÿ 12:23:58 and ...... ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ 12:28:21 -!- aloril_ has joined. 12:35:13 -!- imode has joined. 12:42:23 -!- aloril_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:02:42 -!- aloril has joined. 13:13:32 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 13:21:20 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67321&oldid=67318 * A * (+1044) /* The complex behavior for all of the operators */ 13:27:07 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67322&oldid=67321 * A * (+314) /* The complex behavior for all of the operators */ 13:32:46 -!- aloril has joined. 13:41:26 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67323&oldid=67322 * A * (+959) /* The complex behavior for all of the operators */ Now done with multiplication 13:48:24 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67324&oldid=67323 * A * (+1269) /* Behavior of * */ I should make a ~1000-byte edit each time... 13:53:27 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 13:54:11 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67325&oldid=67324 * A * (+136) Add precedence 14:03:13 [[Pass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67326&oldid=67325 * A * (+177) /* The try function */ 14:06:42 Meh, Firefox. First "Recommend extensions as you browse"... now "Recommend features as you browse"... they really are trying hard to be annoying. 14:07:31 -!- kspalaiologos has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 14:09:14 Hmm actually maybe the second one has been there for a bit and managed not to annoy me. 14:18:29 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67327&oldid=67326 * A * (+70) /* Some basic functionalities */ 14:22:12 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67328&oldid=67327 * A * (+112) 14:22:40 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67329&oldid=67328 * A * (+62) /* Some basic functionalities */ 14:25:08 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 14:26:03 [[Pass]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67330&oldid=67329 * A * (-5) Huge try function proofread 14:30:07 -!- kspalaiologos has joined. 14:55:57 -!- kspalaiologos has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:20:12 -!- kspalaiologos has joined. 15:20:42 -!- imode has joined. 16:00:17 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 16:25:22 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:33:27 -!- xkapastel has joined. 16:54:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 16:57:28 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Client Quit). 17:27:42 Is there any interesting esoteric language that isn't hell on earth to implement? 17:39:36 kspalaiologos: Well, /// is definitely interesting and it's pretty simple. :D 17:42:25 -!- tahw has joined. 18:09:07 -!- FreeFull has joined. 18:30:04 -!- b_jonas has joined. 18:48:35 [[User:Palaiologos]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67331&oldid=67302 * Palaiologos * (+235) A few links 18:53:12 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 18:53:25 =echo foo $HOME bar `uname` qux 18:53:25 foo $HOME bar `uname` qux 18:53:32 =echo foo \$HOME bar \`uname\` qux 18:53:32 foo $HOME bar `uname` qux 18:54:59 hackable, but not this way :) 18:56:10 kspalaiologos: I just wonder how that backslash thing works 18:56:20 ^ I have no idea too 18:56:33 it's far beyond my will of investigating obfuscated bash code 18:57:24 =str 1s++++++++[->++++++<].+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+[] 18:57:24 ok 18:57:26 =def 1msg1 18:57:26 ok, defined 'msg1' 18:57:27 =msg1 18:57:27 ......... 18:57:41 =str 1s++++++++[->++++++<]>.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+[] 18:57:41 ok 18:57:43 =def 1msg1 18:57:43 ok, defined 'msg1' 18:57:44 =msg1 18:57:44 0123456789 19:02:24 ``` cat /hackenv/bin/lowercase 19:02:25 ​#!/bin/bash \ print_args_or_input "$@" | tr A-Z a-z | LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 sed 'y/ØÅÆŒÞÐÄÖÜÁÉÍÓÚÝŁ/øåæœþðäöüáéíóúýł/' 19:02:26 ``` cat /hackenv/bin/\? 19:02:27 ​#!/bin/bash \ topic=$(echo "$@" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/noooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo '`'"$topic" | sed 's/^`\(`\|$\)//') \ topic2=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd $HACKENV/wisdom \ if [ \( "_$topic2"_ = "_ngevd"_ \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic"; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1"; \ elif [ -e "$topic2" ]; \ then cat "$topic2"; 19:02:30 wow, this is overcomplicated 19:14:17 `python3 -cprint(open("/hackenv/bin/??").read()[300:]) 19:14:17 usage: umlbox [-h] [--verbose] [--base-mounts] [--mount DIR] \ [--mount-write DIR] [--translate GUEST HOST] \ [--translate-write GUEST HOST] [--cwd DIR] [--env VAR=VALUE] \ [--no-stdin] [--root] [--local H:G] [--remote G:A:P] [--x11] \ [--timeout T] [--memory M] [--linux KERNEL] [--mudem MUDEM] \ [--initrd INITRD] \ X [X ...] \ umlbox: error: unrecognized argum 19:14:21 fizzie: ^ 19:15:11 fizzie: something is wrong with the bot 19:16:46 `run echo hi 19:16:47 usage: umlbox [-h] [--verbose] [--base-mounts] [--mount DIR] \ [--mount-write DIR] [--translate GUEST HOST] \ [--translate-write GUEST HOST] [--cwd DIR] [--env VAR=VALUE] \ [--no-stdin] [--root] [--local H:G] [--remote G:A:P] [--x11] \ [--timeout T] [--memory M] [--linux KERNEL] [--mudem MUDEM] \ [--initrd INITRD] \ X [X ...] \ umlbox: error: unrecognized argum 19:16:50 `run /bin/echo hi 19:16:51 usage: umlbox [-h] [--verbose] [--base-mounts] [--mount DIR] \ [--mount-write DIR] [--translate GUEST HOST] \ [--translate-write GUEST HOST] [--cwd DIR] [--env VAR=VALUE] \ [--no-stdin] [--root] [--local H:G] [--remote G:A:P] [--x11] \ [--timeout T] [--memory M] [--linux KERNEL] [--mudem MUDEM] \ [--initrd INITRD] \ X [X ...] \ umlbox: error: unrecognized argum 19:23:41 [[HackEso]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67332&oldid=67244 * B jonas * (+2288) wisdom database 19:24:45 I'm genuinely curious 19:25:04 `asmbf jnz r4,3/jnz r3,2 19:25:05 ​+>+[<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]>>>>>>+++<[<<<<<<+>+>>>>>-]<<<<<<[>>>>>>+<<<<<<-]>[<<<[-]>[-]>>>>>>>>[<<<<<<<<+>+>>>>>>>-]<<<<<<<[>>>>>>>+<<<<<<<-]>[-]]>>>>>>[-]<<<<<<]<<<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]>>>>>>++<<[<<<<<+>+>>>>-]<<<<<[>>>>>+<<<<<-]>[<<<[-]>[-]>>>>>>>>[<<<<<<<<+>+>>>>>>>-]<<<<<<<[>>>>>>>+<<<<<<<-]>[-]]>>>>>>[-]<<<<<<]<<<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]<<<[-]>[-]>>]<<] 19:25:19 `asmbf not r4/and r4, r3/jnz r4, 2 19:25:20 ​+>+[<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]>>>>>-[<<<<->>>>-]<<<<[>>>>+<<<<-]>>>>[<<<<+>>>>-]<<<<[[-]>>>[<<<+<+>>>>-]<<<<[>>>>+<<<<-]>[>>>>-<<<<[-]]]>>>>>++<[<<<<<<+>+>>>>>-]<<<<<<[>>>>>>+<<<<<<-]>[<<<[-]>[-]>>>>>>>>[<<<<<<<<+>+>>>>>>>-]<<<<<<<[>>>>>>>+<<<<<<<-]>[-]]>>>>>>[-]<<<<<<]<<<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]<<<[-]>[-]>>]<<] 19:25:31 2nd one is shorter apparently 19:25:37 surprising 19:30:08 Is there any interesting esoteric language that isn't hell on earth to implement? => Fractran? ;D 19:31:51 in_ r1/in_ r2/mov r3,256/lbl 1/dec r3/mov r4,r2/pow r4,r3/le_ r4,r1/jnz r4,2/jnz r3,1/lbl 2/out r3 19:31:54 I wonder why doesn't it work 19:32:01 `run /bin/echo hi 19:32:04 hi 19:32:04 b_jonas: Fixed. 19:33:14 As part of general refactoring, I switched the umlbox command line handling around a little, and the new version required a '--' to separate the command from arguments. The previous version implicitly treated everything from the first non-flag argument as positional. 19:33:24 Thanks for letting me know, it was a pretty glaring security hole. :) 19:34:20 (Well, only up to the second layer of sandboxing. But you could've used the network, and made arbitrary changes to the repository.) 19:35:30 `python3 -cprint(open("/hackenv/bin/??").read()[300:]) 19:35:31 of what you are speaking." 19:35:34 `perl -V 19:35:35 Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 28 subversion 1) configuration: \ \ Platform: \ osname=linux \ osvers=4.9.0 \ archname=x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi \ uname='linux localhost 4.9.0 #1 smp debian 4.9.0 x86_64 gnulinux ' \ config_args='-Dusethreads -Duselargefiles -Dcc=x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -Dcpp=x86_64-linux-gnu-cpp -Dld=x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -Dccflags=-DDEBIAN -Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 -fdebug-prefix 19:35:38 `run /usr/bin/perl -V 19:35:39 Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 28 subversion 1) configuration: \ \ Platform: \ osname=linux \ osvers=4.9.0 \ archname=x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi \ uname='linux localhost 4.9.0 #1 smp debian 4.9.0 x86_64 gnulinux ' \ config_args='-Dusethreads -Duselargefiles -Dcc=x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -Dcpp=x86_64-linux-gnu-cpp -Dld=x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -Dccflags=-DDEBIAN -Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -O2 -fdebug-prefix 19:35:57 `python3 -cprint(open("/hackenv/bin/??").read()[200:]) 19:35:57 ​"$f" ];then exec bash "$f";fi;if [ -r "$f" ];then exec cat "$f";fi;echo "I must confess, I know not of what you are speaking." 19:36:01 looks better, thanks 19:59:05 -!- stux|away has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:01:10 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:01:36 -!- Sgeo has joined. 20:11:00 -!- stux|away has joined. 20:11:14 I'm so proud of myself 20:11:19 I wrote a 2 megabyte malbolge 20:11:22 program 20:11:24 that is actually quite fast 20:11:30 and requires just 0.5GB of RAM 20:19:11 https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/196292/61379 20:30:40 -!- kspalaiologos has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:36:33 is there fictional private detective who is lawful in the D&D alignment sense? 20:56:28 -!- zzo38 has joined. 21:14:53 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 21:56:05 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 22:13:07 fungot, what car would you want to drive if you were rich? 22:13:08 b_jonas: i don't fully understand what you're trying to make is wrong! 22:15:23 -!- Frater_EST has left. 22:18:48 b_jonas: Adrian Monk, maybe? I don't know the character that well, so maybe not. 22:19:31 I'm guessing they usually end up employed by some sort of an official police force or equivalent if they're lawful. 22:23:06 TODO self for HackEso: rewrite rnoodl to a C program that writes output asap rather than waiting for a full line, with some arbitrary short timeout before printing "d" for the exceptional case when it reads "nood" but not the byte after it yet; 22:23:33 add a command to add to the whatis database; complete the wiki description of the bot 22:24:31 What about the Agathy Christie ones, hmm. I guess Miss Marple isn't exactly a PI, she usually investigates people as a favor. Hercule Poirot though... I think is pretty lawful. 22:24:46 Meh. Agatha. 22:27:09 it's hard to tell how to describe Poirot. sometimes he lets criminals get away with what they did, but that isn't enough to make him not lawful. 22:28:09 He certainly wants order and patterns in his life, and works to force that, but does that matter for the D&D alignment? 22:28:31 Right I was getting there... I was focusing on his methods, not on his attitude wrt. delivering criminals to the law where his moral standards differ from those of the law. Tricky! 22:28:32 He probably died as a lawful. 22:28:53 fungot, what is the set of Mario games that feature paragoombas? 22:28:53 b_jonas: http://luuk.kapsi.fi/ stuff/ fnord/ fnord/ fnord/ index.htm for a better place 22:29:10 Most fictional PIs employ unlawful methods. 22:29:29 -!- sprocklem has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:29:29 My thinking was along those lines. Marple's not really professionally a private detective, and as for Poirot, I think all those scenes he stages where he tricks the criminal to reveal themselves are kind of maybe non-lawful. 22:30:03 fizzie: like arranging a scéance with a live actor playing a ghost? sure 22:30:06 Ah, funny. Entrapment is illegal for the police... but is it illegal for private entities? :) 22:31:28 *Actually* even if we include fictional police detectives, we may be in trouble finding a wholly lawful one. 22:31:28 I don't know if it's illegal, that particular thing just didn't feel like lawful-aligned behavior to me. 22:31:46 then there's a case when Poirot commits perjury, lying at the inquest about the recently deceased person 22:31:57 int-e: I think Carrot Ironfoundersson would qualify, I just ruled him out becase he's working for the Watch. 22:32:22 fizzie: b_jonas: whoa, suddenly I want to read Poirot stories (I hadn’t read many classic detective stories in my life, don’t know how had it ended like this) 22:32:32 fizzie: Oh yeah he might... I didn't think of fictional societies at all. 22:32:54 arseniiv: they're worth to read, yes. and then they're kind of hard to discuss at risk of spoilers, 22:33:06 because there are so many Poirot books that I think most people haven't read all of them 22:33:14 I've read quite a lot by now, but not all of them by far 22:33:15 let's mention triangles and leave it at that. 22:33:33 my favourite Poirot book is Five Little Pigs 22:33:56 I have definitely not read them all. 22:33:57 I'm not sure I've read all of them, but I'd guesstimate at least somewhere close to 90%. 22:34:13 spoilers => I am not hppavillion[1] 22:34:22 I just borrowed another Agatha Christie book, it's on my shelf next to me. They're a bit hard to read, but it's usually worth. 22:34:32 I have read all Sherlock Holmes stories... but that's a far less daunting endeavor. 22:34:33 hm how many did she wrote them? 22:35:02 int-e: I have read I think more than half of the original Sherlock Holmes stories 22:35:02 how many of Poirot stories/books, I mean 22:35:20 47 are listed in Wikipedia's "Hercule Poirot in literature" page. 22:35:27 Many are short story collections, though. 22:36:18 Yeah, I was just looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agatha_Christie_bibliography ... "daunting" is the right term, I think. 22:36:44 fizzie: yes, "Labors of Hercules" is a nice short story collection about Poirot 22:37:04 Sherlock Holmes is one thick book, maybe comparable to the Lord of the Rings. 22:37:48 int-e: have you read Andy Weir's Sherlock Holmes stories? there are three of them, see http://www.galactanet.com/writing.html 22:39:30 Of the Marple books, I think I like Nemesis. 22:39:49 in "Labors of Hercules", Poirot lies that he has a brother who is even more brilliant than him, as an obvious shoutout to Sherlock Holmes. What's the name of that brother? 22:40:01 -!- sprocklem has joined. 22:40:20 Achilles? 22:40:28 ...apparently it's just "Achille". 22:40:44 ah yes, that's it 22:41:04 that makes sense, since Achilles is the second greatest hero in the classic greek mythology 22:41:37 the greatest hero of recent times, where Herakles himself has lived in the distant past 22:46:36 which number is Theseus? 22:47:40 Other Marple books I like include Sleeping Murder, and The Mirror Crack'd from Side to Side. 22:47:51 arseniiv: I don't know, I don't think I heard any ranking that goes past Achilles 22:47:55 s/past/beyond/ 22:48:37 I'll have to re-read The Mirror Crack'd Side to Side. I've read it once, but don't remember it much, and I think I only read it in translation 22:49:13 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:49:37 -!- Sgeo has joined. 22:49:42 -!- Deraj has joined. 22:49:50 among Marple books, I recently read The Murder at the Vicarage, which is a decent story even though the viewpoint person is an annoying character 22:50:15 and I've read A Murder is Announced recently 22:50:26 I don't think I've read any Marple books other than those three 22:51:45 but then there aren't many 22:51:52 unlike how there are a lot of Poirot books 22:53:12 there are short stories about Marple too, I should read those if I can find the book 22:55:59 totally unrelated, I wish to advertise http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?601011 which is a play by post game of Magic: the Gathering with three-card decks (no hidden information so everyone is assumed to play optimal strategy if we can figure it out, you don't lose from decking, no mulligans, all cards printed by Wizards are allowed except those that were in the winning deck of any previous 22:56:05 round) 22:56:44 it is an esoteric enough game so I think it's relevant here 23:05:44 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Deraj * New user account 23:06:02 Uh oh -- I've been caught 23:06:44 `welcome Deraj 23:06:45 Deraj: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 23:06:46 Side note: that was the toughest captcha ever 23:06:57 ooh, you like our Befunge captcha? 23:07:08 or unefunge or whatever it is 23:07:39 Not sure "like" is how I'd describe it, but it is certainly appropriate 23:08:33 ais523" ^ 23:09:48 Am I lame for searching for an online Befunge interpreter instead of actually learning the language just to please the captcha? 23:10:04 no 23:10:15 finding a befunge interpreter is a good way to solve the captcha 23:11:00 I guess if you can't do that, you're probably not really THAT into esoteric programming languages 23:13:02 We had a brainfuck one before, yet got spam past it, which was pretty bizarre. 23:14:22 fizzie: I learned from kspalaiologos that casinos use brainfuck. casinos also send spam. so it's no wonder they can get past the captcha. 23:14:56 Wow. I know on the PICO-8 BBS, zep's impression was that a unique (game) captcha was probably sufficient, because who would waste their time trying to spam a tiny community? Apparently casinos! 23:15:12 I think if we set an APL captcha, we'd get spam from the finance sector advertising investment opportunities. 23:15:13 I just find it hard to believe anyone would pay individual attention to our wiki, which gets very little traffic. 23:15:38 And if we set a Coq captcha, we get spam from all the computer science departments advertising postdoc positions? 23:16:12 Yes. And if we set a PHP captcha, we'd get spam from people advertising web hosting and mass mailers. 23:16:37 Or maybe... defeating the Brainfuck captcha was an inside job... 23:17:04 wait 23:17:08 wasn't it brainfuck that the casinos use? 23:17:17 `? kspalaiologos 23:17:18 kspalaiologos is a brainfuck addict. He's secretly disassembling brainfuck code for a casino that lost the source code. Apparently knows the secret of Malbolge. 23:17:20 yes, brainfuck 23:17:29 who uses befunge then? 23:17:31 alexa.com's site analysis on esolangs.org says that our top search keywords are "brainfuck", "aaaaaaaaaaaaaa", "malbolge" and "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa". 23:17:46 Two of them are unsurprising, but I'm not sure what all the a's are about. 23:18:12 https://esolangs.org/wiki/AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! 23:18:33 I guess. Not sure if people are actually looking for that though. 23:18:55 Apparently our wiki captures 6.25% of all "brainfuck" searches. Well, that's not too shabby. 23:19:00 fizzie: sure, but even google can't always guess what they're looking for when they type aaaaaaaaaaaa 23:19:19 Are you sure you got the correct number of a's? 23:19:26 no 23:19:40 Also apparently our primary competitors are inform7.com, copy.sh, progopedia.com and muppetlabs.com. 23:20:12 fizzie: competitors for brainfuck specifically, or in general? 23:20:22 muppetlabs! 23:20:45 b_jonas: I'd guess in general 23:22:33 In general, yes. 23:22:52 I don't quite understand these metrics. 23:23:09 We get 72.2% of "search traffic", compared to our competitors average of 6.5%. 23:23:27 "The percentage of organic search referrals to this site" 23:23:54 hmm, then we should feature organic esolangs to cater to our audience 23:24:10 They recommend we should add keywords for "sql", "is sql a programming language" and "windows 98", these are "keywords driving traffic to competitors but not this site". 23:24:45 And we should improve our existing content on "mmmm", "collatz" and "chicken tendies", which are already driving some traffic but could do more. 23:24:47 is Homespring organic? how about The Waterfall Model? 23:24:56 I don't think this is a super-useful analysis for us. 23:25:11 But the key point I came here to look for is, our global rank is #400,358. 23:25:59 b_jonas: my ones are 100,00000001048% organic 23:26:37 arseniiv: because they're tree-based and trees are organic? 23:26:41 (don’t ask about that 0,00000001048% overshoot, I don’t know what causes it) 23:26:51 b_jonas: that too! 23:27:25 MIX is polyunsaturated, I think it's too old to have bought into the organic fad 23:27:31 but not all of them are tree-based. Though terms are trees, naturally, and one of them uses a kind of terms 23:27:55 does Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon use organic shampoo? 23:28:13 is A Pear Tree organic? 23:28:36 Nora is the best 23:30:15 it’s quite a joke that much of organic chemistry technology products are not organic in this sense 23:30:50 like, even something as simple as acetone 23:31:30 or, as I like to call it in private, propan-2-one 23:31:50 -!- arseniiv has quit (Quit: gone completely :o). 23:35:16 -!- Deraj has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:57:35 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67333&oldid=67277 * Deraj * (+157) /* Introductions */ 23:57:43 -!- tahw has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:58:01 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67334&oldid=67333 * Deraj * (+78) /* Introductions */ 23:58:15 [[SIC-1 Assembly Language]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67335 * Deraj * (+2466) Created page with "'''SIC-1 Assembly Language''' is the primary (and, currently, only) language used for programming SIC Systems's '''Single-Instruction Computer, Mark 1 (SIC-1)'''. The SIC-1 is..." 23:59:33 -!- Deraj has joined.