00:08:58 -!- FreeFull has quit. 00:25:35 hm.. what if you modified `]` to mean the opposite of `[`. i.e "dequeue an item, if it's true, loop to the beginning of the loop, otherwise move on to the next instruction." 01:24:37 -!- ArthurStrong has joined. 01:51:42 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 01:53:50 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:54:35 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 02:08:09 -!- ArthurStrong has quit (Quit: leaving). 03:00:17 https://repl.it/repls/RunnyDistinctDeclaration it's a start. 03:05:37 one thing I do like about this implementation is that it guards against spinning processes. if all of your processes are dead or blocking, it just stops. 04:00:00 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: I seem to have stopped.). 04:01:36 -!- Taneb has joined. 04:11:40 `5 w 04:11:43 1/1:hth//hth ([ʰtʰh̩]) is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. \ nø//nø means 'Char', apparently. Maybe like when you burn a lot? \ lifthrasiir//lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends. \ #esoteric-blah//#esoteric-blah blah blah. Blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah! \ vegemite//Vegemite is genericized marmite for intellectual property reasons. 04:54:22 [[User:Salpynx/Phoney Burn 01]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67831 * Salpynx * (+5473) Puns intended. I started with a serious attempt, but then this happened... 05:42:17 [[Talk:Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67832&oldid=67763 * Salpynx * (+1429) /* Random Observations and Guesses */ colour theory 05:44:10 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:44:36 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 05:53:47 in atlas and/or reverse atlas news; theres totally a card with dude holding up "the world" on google right now 05:53:55 he gets around 05:54:20 it seems this one is mexican 06:02:20 ZA WARUDO 06:04:43 [[Talk:Burn]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67833&oldid=67832 * Salpynx * (+13) /* Colours */ 07:17:41 [[Brainflop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67834&oldid=66273 * Flux3on * (+5) /* Cat */ 07:23:27 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 07:39:22 [[User:Salpynx/Phoney Burn 01]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67835&oldid=67831 * Salpynx * (+381) /* Phoney Burn walkthrough */ modify the final data string to produce a more interesting rule 110 result 08:27:19 There is a Magic: the Gathering mystery card called "Corrupted Key". If it is tapped, your creatures have menace and deathtouch. Do you have the card database with the mystery cards in this IRC? 08:30:21 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 08:31:00 `card-by-name corrupted key 08:31:01 No output. 08:31:04 `card-by-name corrupted 08:31:05 Corrupted Conscience \ 3UU \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ You control enchanted creature. \ Enchanted creature has infect. (It deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.) \ MBS-U \ \ Corrupted Crossroads \ Land \ {T}: Add {C}. ({C} represents colorless mana.) \ {T}, Pay 1 life: Add one mana of any color. Spend this mana only to cast a spell with devoid. \ OGW-R \ \ Corru 08:31:16 It seems not. 08:31:30 I don't remember what Menace is. Was there a rules lookup command? 08:31:37 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 08:31:44 shachaf: we don't have one 08:31:45 well, i have reverse corrupted keys zzo38 , but that explanation makes total sense zzo38 08:31:47 [[Brainflop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67836&oldid=67834 * Flux3on * (+253) /* Example Programs */ It can be replaced with something (anything, please) better. I just wanted there to be a Hello World program there in the least ~~~~ 08:32:05 im not tapping noone, relax 08:32:42 ``` grep -i menace /hackenv/share/mtg/rules.txt | tail -n+2 08:32:43 702.110. Menace \ 702.110a Menace is an evasion ability. \ 702.110b A creature with menace can’t be blocked except by two or more creatures. (See rule 509, “Declare Blockers Step.”) \ 702.110c Multiple instances of menace on the same creature are redundant. \ Menace \ An evasion ability that makes creatures unblockable by a single creature. See rule 702.110, “Menace.” 08:32:57 also, totally makes sense, yes 08:33:57 douthtouch is lifetouch just depends on which "bible" people go by 08:34:10 there are lots of regional variants 08:35:17 Deathtouch means damage this object deals to a creature will cause state based actions to destroy that creature even if the damage doesn't equal or exceed its toughness. There is no "lifetouch" in Magic: the Gathering, and I don't know what "douthtouch" means (is it like "deathtouch"?) 08:36:11 we have different bibles zzo38 :) 08:36:33 I fail to see what the Bible has to do with it. 08:37:38 written by magicians 08:40:13 I do not understand. 08:41:32 kingoffrance: card with dude holding up "the world" => do you mean https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bembo-Visconti-tarot-arcanum-21-world.jpg or other https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/?curid=11291208 ? 08:44:13 theres a first coming set of catholic keys, and theres 2nd coming protestant keys basically 08:44:24 so they are death touches w.r.t. each other 08:44:42 I thought a card holding up the world might refer to one of the trumps in the tarot cards, but "on google right now", it is unclear 08:44:45 modern bibles are my death touch basically 08:44:52 err, the death touch that kills me 08:44:56 (Although I don't use Google much, so I don't know.) 08:45:26 kingoffrance: OK, although I was discussing Magic: the Gathering cards, rather than Catholic and Protestant religions 08:45:32 keys are keys :/ 08:45:39 death touches are death touches 08:46:05 zzo38: "on google right now" means that he's looking at the image of such a card through the internet, potentially the very image that I linked 08:48:14 b_jonas: OK, but then he didn't say very clearly, at least to me 08:53:35 -!- tromp has joined. 08:53:44 the google logo things 08:53:48 its some holiday or something 08:54:04 how they shapeshift the google logo on www.google.com might be gone now depending on your timezone 08:54:38 O, OK, now I looked. Yes it is still there. 08:56:58 -!- tromp__ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:00:21 so apparently the hoster of the Everyday Heroes and The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob webcomics has changed to one of those horrible hosts where you need to overload your computer with javascript ads before it is willing to show the webcomic, and even then you need one click to hide an ad and another to view the comic in full resolution. gocomics.com has already been such a webcomic host for a while, 09:00:27 but now there's another one. 09:00:52 either that, or their website is just plain broken. I haven't tried to get through their javascript yet, so I don't know if the comic behind it is actually accessible. 09:01:07 I'll try some day when I feel more adventurous. 09:23:34 -!- b_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:40:59 -!- Frater_EST has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:46:40 [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Salpynx * uploaded "[[File:Phoney-burn-r110-spaceship.png]]" 09:50:54 [[User:Salpynx/Phoney Burn 01]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67838&oldid=67835 * Salpynx * (+90) /* Phoney Burn walkthrough */ 10:08:53 [[Talk:Burn]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67839&oldid=67833 * Salpynx * (+476) /* Reverse engineering attempts */ phoney solution to the reverse engineering challenge 10:09:29 -!- stux|away has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 10:11:54 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:14:37 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 10:16:05 -!- ddmm_ has quit (Quit: killed). 10:16:06 -!- wmww has quit (Quit: killed). 10:16:10 -!- tswett[m] has quit (Quit: killed). 10:22:18 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 10:43:21 -!- stux|away has joined. 10:50:15 -!- user24 has joined. 11:38:44 -!- arseniiv has joined. 11:49:40 -!- tswett[m] has joined. 11:49:40 -!- ddmm_ has joined. 11:49:40 -!- wmww has joined. 11:52:02 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 12:02:22 -!- Frater_EST has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:21:11 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:54:36 -!- kritixil1 has joined. 12:56:24 -!- kritixil1 has quit (Client Quit). 12:57:04 -!- kritixil1 has joined. 12:57:12 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:57:37 -!- kritixil1 has quit (Client Quit). 12:57:48 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 13:52:20 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 13:54:37 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:55:12 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 14:21:56 -!- user24 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:09:28 [[User:DmilkaSTD]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67840&oldid=67733 * DmilkaSTD * (-407) 15:11:30 [[User:DmilkaSTD]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67841&oldid=67840 * DmilkaSTD * (-69) 15:29:58 [[User:DmilkaSTD]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67842&oldid=67841 * DmilkaSTD * (+54) 15:47:29 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 15:51:04 [[User:DmilkaSTD]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67843&oldid=67842 * DmilkaSTD * (+455) 15:51:24 [[User:DmilkaSTD]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67844&oldid=67843 * DmilkaSTD * (+5) 15:54:36 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:57:56 -!- arseniiv has joined. 16:07:44 -!- Cale has joined. 16:23:49 -!- imode has joined. 17:21:44 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 17:23:03 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Quit: quit). 18:17:15 -!- FreeFull has joined. 18:36:18 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Yay * New user account 18:38:15 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67845&oldid=67785 * Yay * (+76) /* Introductions */ 18:40:17 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67846&oldid=67845 * Yay * (+190) /* Introductions */ 18:42:09 -!- b_jonas has joined. 18:42:11 [[Intcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67847&oldid=67723 * Yay * (+4) 18:45:46 [[Intcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67848&oldid=67847 * Yay * (+439) /* Parameter Modes */ 18:46:24 [[Intcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67849&oldid=67848 * Yay * (+0) /* Parameter Modes */ 18:47:32 -!- b_jonas has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:47:47 -!- b_jonas has joined. 18:47:56 fungot: Can you do multivariate optimization? 18:47:56 int-e: it's finland! :) i'm stealing their hidden stash of alcohol. for some reason. it could spend n ticks to mark a certain spot, just to show that 18:49:43 int-e: not anymore. training the markov models isn't built into fungot, he gets the models already precompiled, and nobody knows how fizzie created those models lots of years ago 18:49:43 b_jonas: i was about to mention that 18:49:43 [[Intcode]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67850&oldid=67849 * Yay * (-36) /* Parameter Modes */ fix everything I broke 18:50:37 -!- LKoen has joined. 18:51:34 b_jonas: I'm tackling Ponder This, and I'm doing stupid random hillclimbing instead of finding a proper tool for the job. 18:52:07 I'm successful, mind you. But it feels wrong. 18:52:11 [[Intcode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67851&oldid=67850 * Yay * (+1) /* Opcodes */ 18:53:17 int-e: what's Ponder This? it's not Advent of Code, right? 18:53:32 http://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/challenges/December2019.html 18:54:18 A monthly puzzle by some IBM Research fault, has been going for over 20 years. 18:55:40 interesting. I didn't know about that puzzle set 18:57:57 anyway, as for your original question, GSL https://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/ has multivariate numerical optimization with machine doubles, and has a C interface, including that you give it a C callback that computes the function you want to optimize and possibly its derivatives 18:58:18 it calls it "Multidimensional Minimization" 18:58:50 and there was a link, let me try to find it, about more software for multidimensional minimization, 18:59:07 plus you can find such libraries distributed with various computer algebra software 19:00:06 the webpage that gives those links might be somewhere in the channel logs too 19:13:31 found it. int-e: http://plato.asu.edu/sub/pns.html list of numeric optimization software 19:13:34 look at that one 19:18:25 In fact, I do know how I created them. In fact, most of them were created almost exactly following the steps at https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/varikn/readme.txt 19:18:25 fizzie: so it *is* long, and how a distributed system needs to be a really slow aircraft, though, 19:18:33 I do not have a copy of the exact parameter values I used, so I can't quite recreate the same results from scratch, but it should be close enough. 19:18:46 Some of the older (better?) models were trained with a super-crummy C++ program, which I still have -- though I'm not sure if buildlm.cc, buildlm-old.cc or buildlm-old2.cc is the relevant version for each of them. I have no excuse for why it's not in version control, either. 19:20:44 [[Fungot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67852&oldid=67237 * B jonas * (+153) link to dDescription of the software that was used to generate most of the markov models of fungot 19:22:09 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:23:07 -!- LKoen has joined. 19:47:27 Oh well I tweaked my code to the point where it finally seems to be approaching a local minimum. 19:49:05 int-e: good. nevertheless I recommend that list page, in case you meet a more complicated numeric optimization problem in the future 20:02:02 b_jonas: yeah it does look useful, thanks. 20:16:11 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:16:40 -!- LKoen has joined. 20:33:35 -!- nico_nico has joined. 20:50:55 -!- nico_nico has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.6). 21:07:31 [[Monolog]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67853&oldid=67825 * CMinusMinus * (+210) 21:08:06 [[Monolog]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67854&oldid=67853 * CMinusMinus * (+26) 21:13:16 [[Monolog]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67855&oldid=67854 * CMinusMinus * (+562) 21:14:21 [[Monolog]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67856&oldid=67855 * CMinusMinus * (+101) 21:16:11 [[Monolog]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67857&oldid=67856 * CMinusMinus * (+117) 21:16:45 [[Monolog]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67858&oldid=67857 * CMinusMinus * (+4) /* cat */ 21:24:18 -!- ArthurStrong has joined. 21:44:12 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:48:19 -!- LKoen has joined. 22:05:52 [[Huh?]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67859&oldid=43103 * Noisytoot * (+179) Added pyhuh 22:42:36 -!- imode has joined. 22:56:29 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 23:22:13 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 23:28:59 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:31:44 -!- LKoen has joined.