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00:14:39 <arseniiv> <imode-ruby> forth is like baking a cake with only two hands instead of the support of a countertop. ==> ooh a good metaphor. I do sometimes think two hands is not enough
00:50:03 <imode-ruby> yeah, now I have to figure out how to give a user N number of hands. :)
00:53:09 <imode-ruby> or give the _illusion_ that they have an N number of hands...
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01:11:04 <arseniiv> imode-ruby: illusion may be as hard
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01:16:34 <imode-ruby> another problem Mode has is the idea of code duplication. everything's done via inline macros so if you have a chunk of code _you're going to plop a new copy down everywhere you use it_.
01:17:29 <imode-ruby> this is both good and bad... compression takes care of that in some way. still working on a compile and runtime solution to that.
01:20:37 <imode-ruby> it's almost the inverse of the inlining problem. everything you define is inlined by default. not very much of a problem but it does matter when the resulting code size is giant.
01:29:41 <oerjan> . o O ( wouldn't that be the outlining problem )
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03:11:14 <oerjan> fungot, hm
03:11:14 <fungot> oerjan: somewhere between 2 and 5 years was a bit confused about the distiction because of code-as-data. see you
03:11:33 <oerjan> thanks, that explains it
03:13:12 <int-e> eery
03:13:52 <shachaf> @metar koak
03:13:53 <lambdabot> KOAK 190253Z 19007KT 10SM SCT015 BKN022 BKN028 13/11 A3005 RMK AO2 RAB0157E08 SLP176 P0000 60000 T01280111 51019
03:14:10 <shachaf> Should I put parent pointers in my tree nodes?
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03:25:16 <int-e> maybe, but not if you want a persistent data structure
03:26:34 <shachaf> The alternative (which I'm using now) is to have "cursors" into the tree contain a stack rather than just a node pointer.
03:27:54 <int-e> next you'll be inventing zippers
03:30:01 <int-e> fungot: can you solve a megaminx?
03:30:02 <fungot> int-e: and not backspace... can be translated
03:31:41 <shachaf> int-e: Is that like a megamix?
03:31:58 <int-e> no?
03:32:14 <shachaf> Oh, it's a puzzle thing.
03:32:19 <int-e> It's a Rubik's cube, but dodecahedrical.
03:32:27 <shachaf> Persistent data structures are kind of a scam, I think.
03:32:33 <shachaf> You rarely need them and they're very expensive.
03:47:18 <oerjan> @metar ENVA
03:47:19 <lambdabot> ENVA 190250Z 09005KT 9999 OVC042 M00/M01 Q1011 RMK WIND 670FT 21012KT
03:48:49 <oerjan> `grWp \<moo\>
03:48:52 <HackEso> moo:Moo is the sound made by a cow as it freezes.
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09:52:10 <bunnyocto> j-bot can execute J?
09:58:03 <FireFly> [ |. 'puy'
09:58:03 <j-bot> FireFly: yup
09:58:26 <bunnyocto> [5
09:58:38 <bunnyocto> [. 5
09:58:39 <j-bot> bunnyocto: 5
09:59:08 <FireFly> uh, didn't know that works with a dot
10:01:38 <bunnyocto> [<. 5.3
10:01:53 <bunnyocto> [.<. 5.3
10:01:56 <bunnyocto> hm.
10:02:17 <bunnyocto> [ <. 5.3
10:02:18 <j-bot> bunnyocto: 5
10:02:20 <bunnyocto> ah.
10:02:21 <bunnyocto> ok
10:02:23 <bunnyocto> :D
10:02:39 <bunnyocto> [ */ % # 1 2 3 4
10:02:39 <j-bot> bunnyocto: 0.25
10:03:34 <bunnyocto> that doesn't look right.
10:03:46 <bunnyocto> Shouldn't that be 6.0
10:06:55 <tromp_> [ # 2 3
10:06:56 <j-bot> tromp_: 2
10:07:24 <tromp_> [ # 6 3
10:07:24 <j-bot> tromp_: 2
10:07:31 <bunnyocto> [ */ % # (1 2 3 4)
10:07:32 <j-bot> bunnyocto: 0.25
10:07:36 <bunnyocto> :(
10:08:23 <tromp_> [ % # 6 3
10:08:24 <j-bot> tromp_: 0.5
10:10:16 <FireFly> bunnyocto: you're applying them monadically, not as a train
10:10:31 <FireFly> [ (*/ % #) 1 2 3 4
10:10:31 <j-bot> FireFly: 6
10:10:51 <FireFly> asuming you meant product over length
10:11:36 <bunnyocto> ah. thanks.
10:13:15 <FireFly> monadic % is reciprocal, so that' a bit different :p
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19:04:29 <b_jonas> fungot, when is the U.S. senate eating the peaches?
19:04:29 <fungot> b_jonas: the syntax is much nicer than oko-in-c amirite) that was written in sicp?
19:05:45 <b_jonas> fungot, is Elon Musk secretly Satoshi?
19:05:45 <fungot> b_jonas: and butt-ugly :d :d :d), i configured my irc client.) in our example
19:06:08 <b_jonas> yes, I configured my irc client too
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19:14:02 <bunnyocto> [ |. 1 2 3 4
19:14:03 <j-bot> bunnyocto: 4 3 2 1
19:14:18 <bunnyocto> [ // 1 2 3 4
19:14:19 <j-bot> bunnyocto: |syntax error
19:14:19 <j-bot> bunnyocto: |       //1 2 3 4
19:14:29 <bunnyocto> [ /* 1 2 3 4
19:14:30 <j-bot> bunnyocto: |syntax error
19:14:30 <j-bot> bunnyocto: |       /*1 2 3 4
19:14:36 <bunnyocto> [ */ 1 2 3 4
19:14:37 <j-bot> bunnyocto: 24
19:14:58 <bunnyocto> [ -/ 1 2 3 4
19:14:58 <j-bot> bunnyocto: _2
19:15:14 <bunnyocto> uhm.
19:15:26 <bunnyocto> I thought / is fold
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19:31:45 <FireFly> it is, sorta
19:31:55 <FireFly> [ 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
19:31:56 <j-bot> FireFly: _2
19:32:36 <FireFly> (because all verb application is right-to-left)
19:33:02 <FireFly> [ 1 - (2 - (3 - 4))
19:33:02 <j-bot> FireFly: _2
19:33:18 <bunnyocto> hm.
19:33:29 <bunnyocto> [ -/ |.
19:33:30 <j-bot> bunnyocto: -/ |.
19:33:32 <bunnyocto> [ -/ |. 1 2 3 4
19:33:33 <j-bot> bunnyocto: 2
19:34:10 <bunnyocto> how do I get -8 then?
19:34:52 <bunnyocto> so -/ is basically foldr1
19:34:57 <bunnyocto> what's foldl1
19:35:07 <bunnyocto> > foldl1 [1,2,3,4]
19:35:10 <lambdabot>  error:
19:35:10 <lambdabot>      • Couldn't match expected type ‘a -> a -> a’
19:35:11 <lambdabot>                    with actual type ‘[Integer]’
19:35:26 <bunnyocto> > foldl1 (-) [1,2,3,4]
19:35:31 <lambdabot>  -8
19:37:06 <FireFly> I don't know of a super concise way
19:37:49 <FireFly> b_jonas might have some idea
19:37:57 <FireFly> or #jsoftware in general
19:40:07 <bunnyocto> > let (-/) = foldl1 (-) in (-/) [1,2,3,4]
19:40:09 <lambdabot>  -8
19:40:24 <bunnyocto> who needs J. You can just define weird operators in Haskell.
19:40:39 <kmc> weird scenes inside the gold mine
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19:50:39 <b_jonas> what do you want to solve?
19:51:08 <b_jonas> [ ({.-+/@{:) 1 2 3 4 
19:51:09 <j-bot> b_jonas: _3
19:51:20 <b_jonas> [ (+/@{:) 1 2 3 4 
19:51:21 <j-bot> b_jonas: 4
19:51:26 <b_jonas> [ (+/@}.) 1 2 3 4 
19:51:27 <j-bot> b_jonas: 9
19:51:31 <b_jonas> [ ({.-+/@}.) 1 2 3 4 
19:51:32 <j-bot> b_jonas: _8
19:51:33 <b_jonas> yeah, that
19:52:57 <b_jonas> ``` python3 '-cimport sys, numpy; v = numpy.float_(sys.argv[1].split()); print(v[0]-v[1:].sum())' '1 2 3 4'
19:52:59 <HackEso> ​-8.0
19:53:45 <b_jonas> ``` python3 '-cimport sys; v = list(map(float, sys.argv[1].split())); print(v[0]-sum(v[1:]))' '1 2 3 4'
19:53:46 <HackEso> ​-8.0
20:00:59 <fizzie> `guile (- 1 2 3 4)
20:01:00 <HackEso> ​-8
20:01:07 <fizzie> Who needs Haskell when you've got Scheme.
20:01:49 <b_jonas> oh yeah, that's a good one
20:01:59 <b_jonas> anyway
20:02:09 <b_jonas> [ -~/|. 1 2 3 4
20:02:10 <j-bot> b_jonas: _8
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20:06:34 <fizzie> -~/|. looks like one of those animated spinners except the backspace isn't working and someone's tried to make it a little more lively than the standard spinny -/|\ thing.
20:06:35 <bunnyocto> thx
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21:18:25 <kingoffrance> "twirling baton"
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