< 1577665499 770306 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a006db32ad6c92c4f05.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1577665610 498631 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1577666866 169642 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric > 1577670009 780180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Sporeball 5* 10New user account < 1577670496 20325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1577671030 142384 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1577671175 570673 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68467&oldid=68417 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+313) 10added my introduction < 1577671757 879429 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1577672486 746109 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1577672502 626143 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1577674423 735802 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1577674589 668294 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1577675124 579728 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1577676013 719540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if sorlie will be pointing out that they cannot be so sure that what iafa did was _wrong_ < 1577676102 41510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Schlock Mercenary) < 1577677431 440315 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: not that familiar with asm2bf but if it's an assembly language built on top of BF, just do the stupidest possible thing first and worry about optimizations later. < 1577677435 379346 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1577677435 456623 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos said 4h 52m 37s ago: I want to target asm2bf, but I need some form of IR to switch the targets back and forth < 1577677958 652575 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1577684651 892008 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-86-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1577685252 515795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dimo is easy to please < 1577685612 768406 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that the following problem is NP-complete: Given a candidate permutation network (like a sorting network, but rather than sorting, each building block is a conditional swap), and a target permutation, can the network produce that permutation? < 1577685832 643614 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm also lagging behind on comics. How did that happen... < 1577685862 442670 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know how. A) I found some other things to tackle, including the above. B) I've been watching 36C3 videos.) < 1577686208 809999 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-86-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu > 1577690693 298693 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck, but every + is replaced with the bee movie script14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68468&oldid=57881 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (+87) 10 < 1577690835 635632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1577691036 715651 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:c9db:9eab:f4fb:d80e JOIN :#esoteric < 1577691185 985501 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:d1b4:2de:fe5c:33a7 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1577692445 7762 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: have you pondered attending congress? :p < 1577692616 284492 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Pondered, yes. But I'm too lazy. < 1577692641 254455 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm... I wouldn't say to come for the talks, because you can watch the recordings (and everyone does that)... but the atmosphere and all is amazing in general < 1577692647 944523 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conversations with people and stuff < 1577692652 614223 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, fair :) < 1577692773 169358 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been to 28C3 and 27C3. It was exhilarating, but I didn't talk to people so it was also a bit of a waste. < 1577692849 819942 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did get an Arduino soldered and running at 28C3 though. So that's something. < 1577692851 839898 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. < 1577692877 69070 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how many people in this channel have a ham radio license < 1577693265 880495 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: fair < 1577693957 508524 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1577694059 210280 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1577694215 490863 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@172.242.0.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1577694216 697681 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@172.242.0.73 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1577698298 887061 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1577698482 957120 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the suffix -hotic refers to the sound some letter makes in a language < 1577698528 327794 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: brb < 1577698531 503454 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So one can say that the Spanish chotic is /θ/ in mainland spain but /s/ in much of latin america < 1577698594 414745 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while english chotics include /k/, /s/, /x/ and /tʃ/ < 1577698600 507337 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1577699133 653894 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chotic being the sound a c makes in the given language? < 1577701403 574895 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1577701413 702663 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by analogy with rhotic < 1577701502 382679 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Castille" sounds a bit odd if you pronounce it with a θ < 1577701509 570839 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought θ was Z > 1577702001 27822 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68469&oldid=68466 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+2) 10 > 1577702027 980363 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68470&oldid=68469 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (-10) 10Not an category. < 1577702047 417097 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric > 1577702140 572759 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68471&oldid=68470 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+168) 10Categories bar < 1577702934 540136 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00c43cfa9c82c3337f.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric > 1577703027 384711 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Backhand14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68472 5* 03Jo King 5* (+8534) 10Created page > 1577703228 524385 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07It Online14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68473&oldid=68268 5* 03Jo King 5* (-36) 10replaced external link with internal one > 1577703544 493968 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68474&oldid=68429 5* 03Jo King 5* (+15) 10added Backhand < 1577704623 894863 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric > 1577705388 328564 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68475&oldid=68471 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+3108) 10 < 1577705673 289816 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric > 1577711026 407234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Backhand14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68476 5* 03Hex96 5* (+38) 10Created page with "is there an interpeter on tio.run yet?" > 1577711064 590096 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Backhand14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68477&oldid=68476 5* 03Hex96 5* (+21) 10 > 1577711407 638193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Langlang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68478 5* 03Hex96 5* (+528) 10Created page with "langlang is an esolang which just does what you tell it to do. note that there are alot of ways to do the same thing. ==Examples== ===Hello World===
 say "Hello, World!..."
> 1577711432 235764 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68479&oldid=68410 5* 03Hex96 5* (+15) 10/* List of esolangs */
> 1577711457 592388 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68480&oldid=68321 5* 03Hex96 5* (+76) 10/* Challenge answers */
< 1577713464 264023 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back
< 1577713599 969375 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was your christmas, fungot?
< 1577713600 312690 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: especially if you wait to be taught to talk anymore
< 1577715147 865367 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00c43cfa9c82c3337f.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
> 1577715350 275561 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Langlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68481&oldid=68478 5* 03A 5* (+24) 10
> 1577715742 987585 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Backhand14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68482&oldid=68477 5* 03A 5* (+201) 10
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> 1577715967 561101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Langlang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68483&oldid=68481 5* 03A 5* (+66) 10
> 1577715983 146791 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Langlang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68484&oldid=68483 5* 03A 5* (+12) 10/* Truth-Machine */
> 1577716067 392395 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:English14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68485&oldid=36177 5* 03A 5* (+255) 10
> 1577716342 228228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:English14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68486&oldid=68485 5* 03A 5* (-255) 10Umm, this is the same page...
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< 1577717788 860662 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1577720615 761927 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric
> 1577720879 532841 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03MadisonSilver 5*  10New user account
> 1577721157 370615 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68487&oldid=68467 5* 03MadisonSilver 5* (+387) 10Adding my introduction.
< 1577722348 637904 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1577730758 653858 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1577735019 917190 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1577735857 812270 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :three people starred my asm2bf repo
< 1577735873 585216 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is my champagne
< 1577735917 77415 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I expect one is a bot, one is genuinely interested, and one is a person everybody despises, like A. )
< 1577736333 436401 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao
< 1577737193 244363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three people have starred fungot too; at least one's an #esoteric-er, no idea what's up with the other two.
< 1577737193 734197 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: retrieving body 61 of 61 from fnord, his race, his language, his homeland and origin, his faith or his religious or political opinions.
< 1577737219 812215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Those sort of details don't really show up in GitHub profiles.
< 1577737220 64901 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: some fnord use source port 0 are true
< 1577737303 86569 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1577737925 772351 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've starred it
< 1577737930 742668 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1577738061 687485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't expect a lot of updates
< 1577738522 919310 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
> 1577738599 475138 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Naz14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68488 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+4870) 10create naz page
> 1577739128 950751 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Naz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68489&oldid=68488 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+108) 10add category tags
> 1577739326 389416 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68490&oldid=68474 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+10) 10add naz to the language list
> 1577740545 407722 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68491&oldid=67522 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+194) 10add naz's hello world program
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< 1577741015 69100 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q
< 1577741016 157333 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w
< 1577741016 921000 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1279)  (btw, "q = 1-p" should be the standard definition of q, IMO)
< 1577741017 629092 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​il//An il is a cohelix of pper wire.
< 1577741043 2384 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? W
< 1577741050 389656 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A w is everything a cow isn't.
< 1577741054 344233 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? w
< 1577741057 588272 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A w is everything a cow isn't.
< 1577741061 785618 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cow
< 1577741063 209043 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees Celsius.
< 1577741075 478771 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing. 
> 1577741080 522885 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Sporeball14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68492 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+106) 10create my user page
< 1577741081 260394 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w
< 1577741082 287580 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​boring//Boring means of little interest, unless it is done to pigs.
< 1577741318 264595 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run fmap (\x -> shift (x * (x + 1)) (-1)) [0 .. 34]
< 1577741320 192310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,2...
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< 1577741366 544787 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run fmap (\x -> shiftR (x * (x + 1)) 1) [0 .. 34]
< 1577741368 578432 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,2...
< 1577741431 665600 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo WC_Ub6mTc3s1
< 1577741989 153473 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-130-47.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1577744615 261651 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how many hearts do you need to obtain the Master Sword?
< 1577744615 575606 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i don't know how debian handles it, sorry :))
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> 1577747187 755681 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68493&oldid=68415 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+346) 10
< 1577748260 772305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played GURPS game yesterday (twice). I connected a Raspberry Pi computer to a television set at a hotel, but when it is connected, the remote control doesn't work. Do you know why? Is it related to HDMI-CEC somehow?
< 1577748520 31227 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the remote control work while the computer isn't connected to the television? was there a clear line of sight between the led of the remote control and the IR sensor on the television?
< 1577748690 29984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, If the computer is not connected, the remote control worked, and there is a clear line of sight either way (even, there is a light on the TV set that flashed so clearly the signal was received, but failed to do anything about it). There is also one switch on the TV set itself, but it doesn't work, regardless of what is connected on the back.
< 1577749209 132145 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, have you ever tried to encode a hidden message in your replies, like via steganography or acrosticon?
< 1577749209 386283 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ( box-set! a-box " hi")