< 1588032945 363408 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1588033488 587652 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yuvwmasbkjqjqzof QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1588033589 872939 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:5488:d172:88d2:bfca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1588034888 78831 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MangularJS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71461&oldid=71460 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+527) 10Finish pop() > 1588034927 30978 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71462&oldid=71421 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+17) 10/* M */ < 1588035584 771577 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a dictionary be installed with both Canadian spelling? "aptitude show ispell-dictionary" mentions American and British, but not Canadian (which uses a combination of American and British spellings; in most cases, Canadian spelling matches whichever spelling is older, which is often British but not always). < 1588039757 339212 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1588039984 795238 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1588042578 734901 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1588042774 351506 :Bowserinator_!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1588042777 786260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1588042861 358683 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1588042878 187674 :Bowserinator_!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator QUIT :Client Quit < 1588042878 299160 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Client Quit < 1588045216 850042 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1588045276 182473 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gudday. < 1588045284 479516 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1588045304 313612 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. You seem like you are always online. < 1588045340 853080 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hovhomidionhhtrh PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy enough these days < 1588045346 141563 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hovhomidionhhtrh PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else is there to do, I guess < 1588045972 821622 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like GURPS game? < 1588045996 986710 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1588046059 253398 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hovhomidionhhtrh PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't played it since, like, 2010, but I did enjoy it < 1588046071 688119 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hovhomidionhhtrh PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I lied, 2012 < 1588046274 805391 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played the GURPS on Sunday on the computer, and also a few weeks ago also on the computer. I also recorded all of them on the computer I rewrote it to write the story to read it < 1588046296 565380 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1588046426 709689 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are readable on a Fossil wiki at http://zzo38computer.org/gurpsgame/1.ui but you can also download the Hamster archive with the files. If you find any mistake in it, please notify me. < 1588046489 493604 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The link I made to the figlet text from before is also from the GURPS game; since there is only one player I can use a direct connection and don't need IRC, and that is what the GM sent; I suppose he used a figlet text. < 1588046630 664687 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Train: I think that you should write about your esolang in the esolang wiki < 1588046695 757759 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can access http://zzo38computer.org/gurpsgame/1.har if you want to download the Hamster archive file. A Hamster archive is a sequence of lumps, where each lump consists of the null-terminated ASCII filename, 32-bit PDP-endian data size, and then the data.) < 1588046737 996992 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hovhomidionhhtrh PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I not surprised you have a bespoke archive format. < 1588046766 499250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I appreciate the PDP-endian size. < 1588046780 639738 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hovhomidionhhtrh PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is amusing, to be sure. < 1588046807 324906 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I don't know if I should write about my esolang. It needs some tidying up. < 1588046883 116358 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't invent it. (If I did, I probably would have used big-endian or small-endian instead of PDP-endian. The format is otherwise good though, and keeping the same format allows better compatibility with other programs using the same format.) < 1588046972 811065 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PDP-endian isn't so bad either, since it is just as easy to work with, so I am not complaining about it.) < 1588047095 947903 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Train: What you wrote on sprunge seem like good enough to me < 1588047130 11261 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few cases of undefined behaviour. < 1588047191 133643 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, such as you don't specify what happen in case of end of file. < 1588047203 476647 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can never reach EOF. < 1588047226 966998 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the case of the "d" command, the input might reach EOF, though. < 1588047261 522997 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because it only takes 1 byte of input, which is the first byte of input from the input < 1588047290 343604 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, well, you didn't mention that in the document. < 1588047306 846313 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nor does that make much sense to me.) < 1588047312 978931 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's why the documentation is incomplete. < 1588047356 28387 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if the lines are different lengths, the interpreter is just like: < 1588047357 59759 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgflip.com/36qm8e.png < 1588047379 676921 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't specify the range of values in cells either, although based on what we discussed before it should be unlimited. < 1588047402 387507 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It has to be unlimited to be Turing complete. < 1588047441 743830 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, yes, about the program lines being different lengths; presumably the program is not valid if the lines are of different lengths, although one thing that it could be made to do is to pad them with spaces on the right. < 1588047476 919016 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about that, but then it does have some interesting repercussions on the complexity. < 1588047509 132554 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another possibility is just to display an error message. < 1588047517 506298 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and refuse to execute the program) < 1588047529 212684 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, it can either crash the interpreter or undefined behaviour. < 1588047559 611227 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also just explicitly specify that it is undefined behaviour if such a program is given. < 1588047579 453893 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps. < 1588047594 816261 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll do the error messages and tidy up the interpreter now. < 1588047797 854436 :Train!ca9a8084@202-154-128-132.ras-dynamic.connections.net.nz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588048075 828986 :Train!ca9a8738@202-154-135-56.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1588050306 160245 :Train!ca9a8738@202-154-135-56.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588052386 790351 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1588052744 365136 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1588055601 261439 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I invented a chess variant, which is: If you en-passan an opponent's pawn, then you may optionally take any piece from off of the board (regardless of colour; you may even take the pawn that was just captured) and put it in the place of the captured pawn. You also must take a queen/knight/rook/bishop from off of the board for promotation; you can't have more than you started with. < 1588056623 308245 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:449d:6e58:5fb2:4787 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588059843 858129 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1588060139 724320 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess what it is, is this: in an applicative setting you can have combinators that operate on combinators to obtain new combinators; in a concatenative setting, you have, um, concatenatees, that operate on states to obtain new states, and which you concatenate together to produce new concatenatees. < 1588060262 708732 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you insist on looking at concatenatees as combinators, each one takes exactly one other combinator, and produces a new combinator, but this has to terminate somewhere, and in the end you still have something that takes states to states instead < 1588060423 127361 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you say something like "states are combinators too", then that just sort of begs the question of where you draw the boundary between the combinators that are part of "the state" and the combinators that are part of "the program". < 1588060496 947229 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1588060524 897590 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1588060830 976851 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588061493 887865 :LKoen_!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588061771 989216 :LKoen_!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 NICK :LKoen < 1588062639 113810 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear, joining #proglangdesign now requires "identification with services". < 1588062948 458416 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not sure it's worth setting that up just for a channel where most of the content is people trying to prove they have deeper understandings of substructal logics than other people
< 1588063538 983952 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1588064429 347033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: A bunch of channels turned that on temporarily becaue of some spam. < 1588064569 809743 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hi shachaf. Hadn't seen you around for a while, wondered if you had given up on IRC. < 1588064802 72999 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.81.251.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1588066473 793478 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1588067319 746086 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588069440 820919 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588070420 159854 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588070426 733556 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso JOIN :#esoteric < 1588071533 671718 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1588071962 660914 :lynn_!sid154965@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qhrpzgxcylkpquuh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1588072505 805645 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588072583 950152 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1 < 1588073072 835303 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588073235 372602 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1588073240 976298 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1588073572 141174 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1588074232 823266 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1588075125 783010 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning all < 1588075165 184590 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.81.251.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :good day! < 1588077094 825730 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1588077473 745216 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1588077680 232979 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1588077971 828278 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive got into studying maths again < 1588078170 213953 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its hard to know the right thing to study though > 1588078202 612593 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MangularJS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71463&oldid=71461 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+65) 10/* Stack class */ < 1588078390 810205 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Springer just made a number of their textbooks free to download as e-books: https://github.com/alexgand/springer_free_books < 1588078436 76876 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular there's Kozen's "Automata and Computability": https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-1-4612-1844-9 < 1588078939 33920 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: Do you have any favourite parts of mathematics? < 1588078971 729529 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah algebra, number theory, codes and groups ithink < 1588078975 450817 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :symmetries too < 1588079010 176766 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill try that springer book, i grabbed 'proofs from teh book' < 1588079105 389747 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proofs from THE BOOK is on the list, interesting. < 1588079151 319722 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, i didn't know out uni president wrote something like that < 1588079222 14343 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, rain1 beat me to that observation. Anyway, link: http://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-662-57265-8 < 1588079254 878890 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric > 1588080025 72833 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:PythonshellDebugwindow14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71464&oldid=71424 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+44) 10/* Languages */ < 1588080143 418988 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Introduction to Programming with Fortran" < 1588080270 815572 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Entertainment Science" < 1588082440 677453 :b_jonas!~x@176.63.12.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: ah yes, a lot of publishers advertised such a deal with books. And when I follow them, it usually turns out that it only applies to a few uninteresting books, not the ones I'm looking for. < 1588082480 213729 :b_jonas!~x@176.63.12.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can be fooled once more, so I'll look at this Springer deal. > 1588083385 416806 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MangularJS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71465&oldid=71463 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+177) 10/* Restrictions */ < 1588085790 280905 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1588085851 300899 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588089994 780570 :cpressey!~cpressey@79-65-251-142.host.pobb.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1 < 1588094799 315734 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588095417 188369 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:449d:6e58:5fb2:4787 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588095694 673882 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588095702 441587 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:449d:6e58:5fb2:4787 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588096314 335817 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 JOIN :#esoteric > 1588097387 93346 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Skiforth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71466&oldid=71459 5* 03Orby 5* (+32) 10 < 1588098051 315017 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric > 1588099002 324627 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:PythonshellDebugwindow/RandomNameGenerator14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71467&oldid=71336 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+272) 10try it online < 1588100008 884688 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1588100595 366410 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1588101683 561364 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1588102135 989031 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.81.251.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1588102291 959439 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1588103445 479643 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1588103562 864814 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1588103914 826350 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1588106259 511372 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:449d:6e58:5fb2:4787 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588106486 529279 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:449d:6e58:5fb2:4787 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588108557 341864 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1588108656 791387 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1588108729 799666 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1588108739 186548 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote this http://sprunge.us/jdR90S which is my current plan how to make the random pack generation working for TeXnicard. Do you think it is good enough? Do you have other comments of it please? < 1588109275 102889 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:449d:6e58:5fb2:4787 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588111001 773094 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1588111098 806289 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1588112575 557681 :opticnerve!~opticnerv@host4-129-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1588113095 272220 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A file I found mentions "simulated collation", which is simulating the printing and packaging process of official sets. This is something I have thought of for TeXnicard too, although I forgot when writing the document I linked, although I can easily add it; if you specify a name with / at first then it is a sheet name. < 1588113187 930164 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "Due to the required effort on the set designer's part of making card lists of the print sheets, no custom sets use this method so far", although with TeXnicard it will be easy enough to make card lists of print sheets, since rendering templates use the "setsheets" PostScript procedure to specify which sheet to print it on. < 1588114050 824818 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found another set of documents about the card collation in Magic: the Gathering. < 1588114270 742299 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1588114666 497385 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1588114722 115428 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not entirely understand it, though. < 1588114740 56179 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1588114759 360556 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lethe.xyz/mtg/collation/ < 1588114762 454647 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to add automatic church numerals to skiforth and I have mixed feelings about it < 1588114765 578379 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am reading it though to see how it is working < 1588114772 690926 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's kind of useful, but not strictly necessary < 1588114775 667626 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1588114791 423989 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbitaldecay: I expect adding automatic numbers would make the program run more efficiently > 1588114810 668462 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Minimal operation language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71468&oldid=71214 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-13) 10/* Resources */ No longer dead < 1588114831 186205 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, definitely, I've been trying to strike a balance between some kind of usability and keeping it minimal < 1588114856 360294 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if I add RAM access, automatic numbers will be very handy < 1588114869 639878 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1588115073 36918 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hovhomidionhhtrh PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine that would be hard to use without them, yeah < 1588115080 4672 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:7c0f:e579:676:276d JOIN :#esoteric < 1588115090 867936 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38:: what piqued your interest in collation? < 1588115099 75188 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an interesting document < 1588115127 562410 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbitaldecay: Well, I want to make the random pack generation working for TeXnicard. One way to do it would be simulated collation, although there is other way too. < 1588115147 473190 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is TeXnicard? < 1588115149 339843 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend it can be supported both ways. < 1588115172 75569 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/texnicard.ui for a description of TeXnicard. < 1588115189 62641 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you interested in custom cards for Magic: the Gathering or other card games? < 1588115275 34770 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, interesting. I am interested in making card games, so it looks useful in that context. < 1588115291 207064 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dabble in making games on ocassion < 1588115293 373201 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1588115327 938810 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have further questions after reading the documentation, please tell me so that I may add them into the documentation and/or the frequently asked questions section. You can ask me here, or on my NNTP server, or in the Fossil ticketing system. < 1588115361 980317 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:7c0f:e579:676:276d QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1588115394 96133 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although the ticketing system is meant mainly for bug reports and feature requests. General discussion should preferably use the NNTP.) < 1588115459 715973 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, will do! < 1588115483 644729 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend who is especially into making games (even moreso than myself) and would also find it very interesting < 1588115540 302615 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would your texnicard software be recommended for card games other than magic? < 1588115555 953250 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say I want to make cards for dominion < 1588115583 449467 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbitaldecay: you would probably be interested in Dvorak as well < 1588115597 168984 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: Yes, it is intended to be generic and not specific to Magic: the Gathering. < 1588115607 578990 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds great < 1588115749 9099 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbitaldecay: see https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9010/dvorak and http://www.dvorakgame.co.uk/index.php/Main_Page < 1588115801 192169 :orbitaldecay!~orbitalde@2604:2dc0:100:419:: PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: Thanks! < 1588115838 296652 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea of the game is usually to make cards as the game goes < 1588115849 95363 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the second link is a wiki full of pre-made decks < 1588115897 867924 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably implement the paragraph formatting. (If you want to use it now, you would have to use PostScript text rendering instead, although I intend to implement TeX-like paragraph formatting too, using TeX fonts. PostScript text rendering will remain available, though, since that feature is included "for free".) < 1588116292 444708 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1588116430 878516 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1588116465 499393 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1588116757 801696 :opticnerve!~opticnerv@host4-129-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds > 1588118114 754832 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=71469&oldid=70456 5* 03Rerednaw 5* (+99) 10