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00:18:03 <esowiki> [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72645&oldid=72644 * Emerald * (+82) DSDLAI
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00:51:13 <esowiki> [[Talk:Dig straight down like an idiot]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=72650 * UltimateProGrammer * (+241) Bruh
01:02:39 <zzo38> Now I implemented layer distortion. For example, you can print arched text. What are the correct equation for a distortion of arched text?
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05:11:39 <zzo38> I have Dodrio with 70 hit points, no damage, and one attack which is 10 plus however much damage is on this card, and I need to knock out one of their cards to win. They have Nidoran with 50 points, no damage, and two attacks, first one is no damage now but if this card attacks next turn the damage will be doubled, and second one is toss a coin if heads 40 damage if tails nothing.
05:14:27 <zzo38> Mostly the second one would be better, but in this case the first one is better, but nevertheless they did the second one instead.
05:15:15 <zzo38> Do you believe me?
05:18:12 <moony> Maybe.
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05:22:19 <zzo38> Which part(s)?
05:47:18 <esowiki> [[User:Zzo38/Untitled 4]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72651&oldid=72344 * Zzo38 * (+366) Examples
06:04:16 <moony> zzo38: I dunno i'm no pokemon master :P
06:10:10 <zzo38> Neither am I, but I think that much is clear to me at least, because if they did the second attack then I will win if their attack hits.
06:11:25 <zzo38> While, if they did the first attack instead, then they will be only partially damaged and if their attack hits next turn, then Dodrio is knocked out instead.
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07:43:27 <cpressey> Good morning.
07:43:52 <cpressey> The inescapable conclusion is that Jot is a concatenative language.
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09:31:37 <cpressey> And the inescapable inference to be made from the fact that Jot is a concatenative language is that function application is a form of function composition.
09:35:33 <int-e> I guess it is if you abstract from the I that is used for the empty string.
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09:36:35 <int-e> Since [xF] = F'[x] for some F'.
09:37:44 <int-e> maybe the conclusion is that "concatenative" is almost meaningless and applies to any program representation as strings.
09:37:53 <shachaf> Category theory people and things like https://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.6543.pdf would like to say that, but I think it's normally a pretty niche view.
09:39:17 <shachaf> I guess it's also a popular view in linear algebra, where people like to represent vectors in V as maps : F -> V
09:42:30 <cpressey> Also, "Jot" and "Joy" differ by only one character, there's got to be some significance there, right?
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09:45:13 <int-e> cpressey: Actually I think I'm just retracing my own steps here... I have already deconstructed concatenativity in that way months ago, stating the program semantics as a function from a compiler state to another compiler state, and moving the setup of the initial compiler state and the extraction of the program to run into the machine that defines the model of computation.
09:45:54 <int-e> But I will admit that in the Jot case it is almost natural.
09:46:43 <int-e> Since the program extraction is the identity, and the intial state is just I.
09:47:13 <int-e> And, obviously, there are no compiler errors of any sort.
09:50:34 <cpressey> int-e: I'm actually fairly sure I follow you, but I have a difficult time putting it into words myself.
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10:47:01 <cpressey> re the article shachaf linked to, I often think of sets as functions (or more specifically, predicates,) but I'm not really seeing the intuition for looking at *elements* as functions.
10:49:21 <cpressey> "For any set X, a function 1 -> X is essentially just an element of X" is just totally confusing.
10:49:35 <cpressey> Please don't try to explain it.
10:49:42 <cpressey> I think I am deciding not to care.
10:50:36 <myname> it does remind me of argument-less haskell functions, though
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10:51:14 <int-e> Yeah, it's just weird. You start doing pointless things and then you find that you need ways to still make points.
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10:51:55 <myname> like, foo :: Int -> Int -> Int is a function that expects a value and returns a 1-argument-function, which in turn accepts a value and returns a "0-argument-function"
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11:14:58 <shachaf> But this view certainly fits "function application is a form of function composition" above.
11:15:33 <shachaf> Haskell doesn't have zero-argument functions.
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12:12:20 <cpressey> Good afternoon.
12:13:59 <rain1> hey cpressey
12:15:09 <cpressey> hi rain1
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12:28:33 <andrew_gtgt> hello
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12:35:37 <fizzie> Odd, this git repository has a [remote "origin"], but it's configured with url = X.Y.Z.W:foo, where X.Y.Z.W is the IP address of the machine itself (not loopback, its public address) and "foo" the name of the directory it's in. I wonder what happened here.
12:36:22 <myname> why is that odd? it's fairly normal imho
12:36:33 <andrew_gtgt> new idea: esolang whose only data source is its own source code
12:36:59 <myname> andrew_gtgt: so basically anything that does not read from stdin?
12:37:13 <andrew_gtgt> yeah and also cannot do stuff like
12:37:20 <andrew_gtgt> say, push to the stack
12:37:24 <andrew_gtgt> push new thigns to the stack
12:37:36 <andrew_gtgt> only reads data from its source code and modifies itself
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12:38:23 <myname> no stack at all is pretty limited, i suppose
12:38:42 <myname> befunge can do that with a reasonably bounded stack
12:39:02 <myname> bullying automatons could fall into your idea
12:39:31 <andrew_gtgt> or an esolang where you input a number
12:39:38 <andrew_gtgt> and it takes the number's prime factors
12:39:48 <andrew_gtgt> then reads the digits of those prime factors like instructions
12:40:02 <myname> fractran is pretty close
12:40:04 <andrew_gtgt> effectively, the job is to find a number whose factors spell out a program
12:40:26 <andrew_gtgt> or verify a prime number which works like that
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12:41:51 <andrew_gtgt> maybe another thing that plays with numbers
12:44:30 <myname> you can do an awful lot with numbers. under a few transformation rules, every program can correspond to a number
12:45:04 <myname> iirc there is a bf derivate that just uses an unary number that it transforms into bf code to execute
12:45:36 <andrew_gtgt> yes
12:46:47 <fizzie> myname: I don't think it's normal for a repository's "origin" remote to refer to itself. Usually it's a *different* machine it was cloned from.
12:47:42 <myname> but you'd have to create it at some point
12:47:58 <fizzie> Yes, but "git init" doesn't set up any remotes at all.
12:48:08 <myname> okay
12:48:23 <myname> i rarely use vcs locally
12:48:33 <myname> i wish i did, would give me a reason to try pijul
12:48:34 <fizzie> It's also paradoxically three commits ahead of itself (in the sense of HEAD vs. refs/remotes/origin/HEAD).
12:48:48 <andrew_gtgt> also: a language which also creates languages and sometimes passes execution to them>
12:49:05 <fizzie> (I'm guessing I just transplanted the whole directory from some other system rather than cloning it properly, and never cleaned up.)
12:49:36 <myname> the head issue is interesting
12:49:46 <myname> i never considered that to be different things at all
12:50:15 <fizzie> I imagine that's just because the remote refs aren't updated until you actually fetch from the remote.
12:51:23 <myname> that is actually pretty neat
12:51:34 <myname> so i can just git pull to get back to a safed state
12:51:48 <myname> no more need for branches!
12:54:15 <andrew_gtgt> is this about github
12:55:15 <myname> no, about git
12:55:22 <andrew_gtgt> oh
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13:26:42 <orbitaldecay> Greetings all
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15:15:44 <esowiki> [[Talk:X]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=72681 * Int-e * (+154) xxx
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15:30:57 <int-e> do we have a category for grossly underspecified languages
15:31:26 <int-e> . o O ( and/or wikipedia-style stubs )
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15:33:48 <cpressey> We definitely have {{stub}}, I don't know what would make it count as "Wikipedia-style" though
15:33:57 <cpressey> e.g. https://esolangs.org/wiki/ESO_sockets
15:34:20 <cpressey> There is essential no information there other than the name "ESO sockets"
15:34:24 <cpressey> *essentially
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15:37:17 <esowiki> [[X]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72690&oldid=72612 * Int-e * (+66) meow
15:37:25 <wib_jonas> cpressey: we have https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Random to find such articles
15:37:41 <int-e> cpressey: there is actually a "Stubs" category, so I used that.
15:38:35 <cpressey> I think {{stub}} automatically adds the page to the Stubs category fwiw
15:39:50 <int-e> Oh well. I guess I abused the category then. But it's really the language itself that's stubby, not the article (which is very short but says pretty much everything that can be said).
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15:51:37 <cpressey> I just tried to write an evaluator for the untyped lambda calculus based on the "Lambda calculus" article on Wikipedia. It didn't go very well, because the article's idea of a "formal definition" of alpha conversion consists of sentences like "α-conversion is not possible if it would result in a variable getting captured by a different abstraction."
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15:52:39 <int-e> cpressey: alpha-conversion is a certain road to insanity ;)
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15:55:42 <cpressey> If I have a term t, and a variable x, and a variable name FRESH that I'm certain doesn't appear in t, then can't I just walk down t replacing any free instances of x with FRESH, and not descending into any term where x is bound?
15:57:00 <int-e> sounds plausible.
15:57:30 <cpressey> Thats' what I implemented but I need to test it.
15:57:40 <cpressey> Anyway, have to be going, ttyl.
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16:41:25 <Mysteryhunter> hi
16:44:40 <int-e> `? esoteric
16:44:43 <HackEso> This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.
16:45:04 <Mysteryhunter> there is a programming language esoteric?
16:45:09 <Mysteryhunter> or u trolling me? ;D
16:45:36 <int-e> No, there are esoteric programming languages.
16:45:40 <int-e> (plural)
16:46:05 <Mysteryhunter> so you can programm ghosts and ouija boards and such things or what?
16:47:10 <int-e> No, they're programming languages that are unusual, rarely used (hence esoteric), and often outright useless.
16:47:41 <Mysteryhunter> whatever
16:47:42 <int-e> But many of them are still interesting and pose intellectual challenges.
16:48:13 <Mysteryhunter> i have the compulsion to order some stuff on the internet
16:48:17 <Mysteryhunter> what could i order?
16:48:32 <Mysteryhunter> earlier that day i ordered plant seeds
16:49:11 <int-e> you could order a raspberry pi
16:49:25 <Mysteryhunter> whats that?
16:49:40 <Mysteryhunter> ah just googled it
16:49:43 <Mysteryhunter> lol not such stuff
16:49:50 <Mysteryhunter> from that i haveenough laying here
16:49:56 <Mysteryhunter> actually trying to sell it on the internet
16:49:58 <int-e> Well this is a programming channel.
16:50:10 <int-e> I suspect this is the best answer you'll get.
16:50:18 <Mysteryhunter> yep
16:50:26 <Mysteryhunter> I'm a programmer too
16:50:37 <Mysteryhunter> if PHP is a programming language for you
16:50:57 <Mysteryhunter> i once coded an irc bot with AI only with PHP
16:51:03 <int-e> It is. It's not a nice one... its popularity is a huge mystery :P
16:51:19 <Mysteryhunter> you could talk with him
16:51:25 <fizzie> Low barrier to entry is my guess.
16:51:27 <Mysteryhunter> and he could also learn i think
16:51:44 <Mysteryhunter> or she/it whatever
16:51:58 <Mysteryhunter> the damn thing is it is on a hard drive that have some failures
16:52:05 <Mysteryhunter> cant be readen
16:52:06 <fizzie> fungot: Would you prefer to be written in PHP instead of what you are?
16:52:07 <fungot> fizzie: from call to/ argument of memq returns false or a list?
16:52:35 <fizzie> Aw, I was hoping for one of those magical moments.
16:52:52 <int-e> ^source
16:52:52 <fungot> https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98
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16:55:08 <int-e> fungot: are you magical?
16:55:08 <fungot> int-e: well. the disk died now and irc is running on sesefras? what was he doing for those 10 months?
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18:14:57 <fizzie> Bluuuuh. I was thinking I wouldn't yet need to figure out this Stack thing, because the "apt install xmonad libghc-xmonad-dev libghc-xmonad-contrib-dev cabal-install && cabal update && cabal install dbus-client" approach *has* so far been sufficient to get my preferred environment up and running. But now the last step fails with "Illegal instance declaration for 'Variable String'". :/
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19:44:35 <Mysteryhunter> kennt wer die antwort von dem witz "was ist der stärkste kleber"?
19:46:04 <kmc> nein
19:46:27 <int-e> I'm hoping that was the wrong channel
19:47:21 <myname> what was that
19:48:17 <kmc> JB Weld heißt er und gilt als der stärkste Kleber der Welt, der schon vor 30 Jahren in den USA enwickelt und dort, millionenfach verkauft wurde.
19:48:38 <myname> find ich nich so witzig
19:49:49 <int-e> kmc: that looks like a serious answer
19:50:10 <int-e> meh
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19:57:39 <zzo38> It is look like German to me but I don't know what it is mean
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20:00:17 <int-e> It's so tempting to say that it was a sticky subject and leave it at that. (It was about glue, allegedly there's a joke about the strongest glue. No idea where that came from.)
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20:02:02 <zzo38> OK
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20:03:48 <int-e> It's probably "Kraftkleber" which is a german term for contact adhesives (which tend to be fairly strong). It's too obvious to be funny.
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20:18:47 <arseniiv> for a week or two I write a PEG-like parser-combinator-like parsing code in Python
20:20:08 <arseniiv> now with my new knowledge of lookaheads and cuts I think error productions can handle something like a traditional panic mode, but maybe even better. I haven’t tried yet, I need to implement correct memoization to handle (indirect) left recursion
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20:22:05 <arseniiv> generator functions came in handy for describing each parser combinator, though I’m still unsure should I raise parsing errors as exceptions or just plainly return them, as currently I don’t use its exceptional nonlocal behavior, just catching each exception right outside the call to the combinator it was raised from
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20:23:53 <arseniiv> I mean, using generators allows to decouple many things from calls to other combinators, including memoization. Simple packrat memoization then is implemented in ~5 lines, but the trick for allowing left recursion would need a longer addition
20:27:20 <arseniiv> also I’m not totally sure I came up with a correct interplay between “error-production combinators” and lookaheads, and error combinators look hack-ish anyway: they raise an error but inside it sits a return value which needs a special treatment by the trampoline machine which runs all the combinators
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20:30:24 <arseniiv> now, if we are inside a lookahead, this secret result isn’t taken out and doesn’t supercedes the error, so we can properly fail where it’s semantically a parsing failure. And that hack may even memoize correctly, but I’m still unsure if I hadn’t overlooked something. When all the code will be done, it seems I should write a ton of various tests
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22:42:44 <andrew_gt> idea: esolang which is physically impossible to run
22:46:20 <zzo38> OK, how do you intend to do that? Maybe there are some.
22:46:34 <andrew_gt> i thought about a quantum esolang
22:46:51 <andrew_gt> which exploits the many-worlds theory to somehow get the program to work properly
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22:47:39 <b_jonas> andrew_gt: there are some uncomputable esolangs up there. my favourite is (0)
22:52:56 <b_jonas> I'm in europe so I already ate. I ate fish.
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23:00:44 <zzo38> Do you think that my current plans for typesetting in TeXnicard are sufficient for most card games that you know of?
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