< 1597018113 360026 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu > 1597019873 944531 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Number Seventy-Four14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76563&oldid=76559 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+82) 10 < 1597020013 703982 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat JOIN :#esoteric < 1597020151 457271 :t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139340-aztw33-2-0-cust225.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597021357 934299 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1597021473 30992 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many significantly different media types there are for which a language can be optimized, for how many of them has an entirely new language unrelated to any previously existed language or an entirely new script ever get created, and whether there are esoteric possibilities there waiting for us. < 1597021516 659130 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you give any examples? < 1597021605 928045 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :For writing, there are forms of writing optimized for writing in soft clay that may later be burned to hard, carving in hard stone, carving in wood, writing on paper with ink, on paper with typewriter, on paper with traditional professional metal press, on paper with digital graphics-capable monocolored printer, < 1597021679 727202 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Yes, there are, but I don't know if other media than what you mentioned. < 1597021682 299946 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on paper with digital graphics-capable multicolored printer, punched on paper with a hand-operated stylus and read tactile, punched on paper by more complicated means and read tactile, formed from bended neon lights; < 1597021720 732262 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, although often neon lights don't use a different alphabet, just a different style < 1597021743 107812 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for sign languages there's ordinary sign languages, variants optimized for signing mostly or completely one-handed, and more tactile versions for communications to blind-deaf; < 1597021776 528607 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :from spoken there's ordinary speech, whispering, shouting, whistling, humming, and maybe some musical instruments. < 1597021788 54712 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I thought you only meant writing at first, but yes, there is that too. < 1597021806 785990 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, for most of these I can only think of examples that are just modified variants of others, which is for practical reasons of not having to learn too many different languages or forms of writing. < 1597021912 471506 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and there's optimized for speech in a noisy environment, for which we have the English-based language used in air traffic communication. < 1597021928 690713 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably a lot of untapped esoteric potential. < 1597021932 287233 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes. < 1597021938 861463 :flv!c0de8242@192-222-130-66.qc.cable.ebox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: in my thoughts, I am envisioning interpreters as an artistic interpretation of a program, like in a drama. e.g. let's say, i was to write an interpreter that reads only fully-formed words in English that are part of the program ? does this make sense ? < 1597021983 863081 :flv!c0de8242@192-222-130-66.qc.cable.ebox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this interpreter could work with any given program, no matter which language it was written it. it's just that it's not a very useful interpretation...! < 1597022023 1374 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :flv: I don't really understand. How is it still an interpreter for that language if it doesn't execute the program? < 1597022067 387948 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll have to sleep on this and try to think of the best untapped esoteric potential. < 1597022117 353434 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangers have already invented a lot of strange esolangs that use weird types of media of course, probably popularized a lot by Piet. < 1597022117 502323 :flv!c0de8242@192-222-130-66.qc.cable.ebox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I mean, you could then write something to execute the code that follows the interpretation < 1597022189 661585 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I should start a list of interesting esolangs on my esowiki userpage, with short spoilery descriptions, because many esolang names are easy to forget even if you remember what the language does. < 1597022222 781014 :flv!c0de8242@192-222-130-66.qc.cable.ebox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: e.g. associate each English word with a certain binary number and call it a day ? < 1597022355 885273 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Efghij is my favorite esoteric media type for esolangs < 1597022549 981015 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, make such a list including descriptions; I might like to see too (and maybe I forgot, too) < 1597023813 93004 :flv!c0de8242@192-222-130-66.qc.cable.ebox.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1597024700 87284 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Eodermdrome14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76564&oldid=63648 5* 03Ais523 5* (-29) 10/* Implementations */ unpipe link < 1597025494 933943 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1597025791 350906 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stones14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76565&oldid=50841 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (-6) 10fixed title > 1597025802 228614 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stones14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76566&oldid=76565 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+1) 10 > 1597025817 387334 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stones14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76567&oldid=76566 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+2) 10 > 1597025853 754464 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stones14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76568&oldid=76567 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+2) 10I should really use the preview < 1597026748 317369 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose other possibilities may include multi-peoples hand signs, hand signs with flags, non-humans signs/writing/speech, computer displays (both low and high resolutions can be considered, and both mono and colours), air writing with smoke (or magic, if you want to consider stuff other than actual stuff), speech with especially short or long durations, etc. < 1597026788 846779 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also think I read somewhere about different languages being different due to the different acoustics of the environment, such as how many trees there are, etc) < 1597026849 312827 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, in the case of computer displays, still or animation can be another possibility.) < 1597028401 307075 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Quit: I seem to have stopped. < 1597028493 776794 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597028673 547988 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat JOIN :#esoteric < 1597029899 595287 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597032941 17489 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597032945 158922 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597033022 22870 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1597034510 25403 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597035447 770751 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1597035923 938510 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597036063 567296 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1597038248 412234 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597041043 822980 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597041159 781803 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1597044463 819315 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597044500 605456 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I suppose another possible media with writing might be writing with chalk. < 1597044566 136349 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, I suppose another possible variant for sign language might be by feet. < 1597045451 846286 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1597045859 592788 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1597046030 233599 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Swc 5* 10New user account > 1597046286 908789 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76569&oldid=76562 5* 03Swc 5* (+245) 10 < 1597046826 451072 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597046855 50613 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello > 1597047910 329729 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tru14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=76570 5* 03Swc 5* (+5405) 10Created page with "'''Tru''' is an esoteric programming language of brackets using prefix-free code, designed by [[User:Swc]]. The language runtime has two built-in stacks. The instructions to..." > 1597047960 756463 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Swc14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=76571 5* 03Swc 5* (+36) 10Created page with "True programmers program in [[Tru]]." < 1597047973 408251 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-48.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal > 1597048020 704805 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76572&oldid=76510 5* 03Swc 5* (+10) 10 < 1597049521 829465 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: quit < 1597054415 564860 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597054847 400862 :t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139340-aztw33-2-0-cust225.18-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597057179 554282 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1597059403 770429 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597060504 940568 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat JOIN :#esoteric < 1597061242 359870 :tromp_!~tromp@ip-213-127-104-154.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597061451 437963 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:1a2:681c:1e5b:e3f5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1597061523 80295 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597062446 755602 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1597062551 564336 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1597063331 634209 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597063393 902555 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1597063628 46285 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1597064416 944121 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1597066687 140462 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat JOIN :#esoteric > 1597066776 110254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MAWP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76573&oldid=76505 5* 03Razetime 5* (+331) 10/* Example Programs */ < 1597067630 360003 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597067728 108137 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, I've known the non-esoteric possibility that I want: I'd like a good family of sans-serif fonts with a consistent look for text including mathematical formulas, optimized for slides with the contemporary mid-resolution LCD projectors. < 1597067829 100507 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CM and other mathematical fonts are serif fonts, and optimized for printing on paper, rather than viewing from a distance on a projected screen, so they're not ideal, but there don't seem to be good quality sans serif mathematical fonts that qualify. < 1597067868 765012 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's a gap between handwritten mathematics (either overhead projector slides or whiteboard or chalkboard) and printed on paper that should be filled. < 1597067889 195031 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally I should make such a font set, but learning to make good fonts and making good fonts takes a ton of times. < 1597067970 132100 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1597068179 60391 :bumblee_!~sf@112.198.73.91 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597068189 717877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: I don't know if it's any good really, but https://github.com/firamath/firamath is meant for your use case as far as I can tell. (The showcase images are clearly beamer slides.) < 1597068273 778809 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1597068274 481643 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that looks at least interesting, thank you < 1597068366 26649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's probably the thing I landed on when I made some slides in beamer for a course I was TA for, and I think I got there by going through https://tug.org/FontCatalogue/mathfonts.html and looking for anything without serifs. There's a few other candidates on the list too, though the vast majority are serif fonts. < 1597068392 991513 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( "A lot of times", of course, alludes to the multitude of newspapers called "___ Times", some of which commissioned their own fonts. ) < 1597068422 686016 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/lot/ton/, sorry. < 1597068872 280525 :huntingcryptos!~huntingcr@1.235.118.78.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597069135 165537 :bumblee_!~sf@112.198.73.91 QUIT :Quit: Hello my friends. If you want to discover something just check here. https://bit.ly/33tb5lx < 1597070577 359770 :Melvar!~melvar@dslc-082-082-054-030.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.8 < 1597071055 63402 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ideally I should make such a font set, but learning to make good fonts and making good fonts takes a ton of times. => also there seem to be no font creating software which is comfortable to work with, in drawing and editing glyphs. AFAIU people just edit in some other software and then import, but I see a lot of problem with this approach and at least it’s problematic for me to make a routine. I can’t even make a font for a conscript w < 1597071055 214284 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ith ink-looking glyphs in Inkscape from an image with layers a layer for a glyph each < 1597071187 18569 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: that is certainly part of the software < 1597071267 126207 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more realistically, I should update my fecupboard20 font with more characters, and better images for some of the existing characters. the ASCII parts are stable and haven't needed a change for years, I've been using it in terminals in my home machine a lot, but there are characters missing and ones that are ugly. < 1597071315 633656 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I started a tiny bitmap font, and for that I actually collected a decent list of characters that I want, so I can start from that list to add characters to fecupboard. < 1597071364 394160 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tiny font is variable pitch < 1597071511 705508 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the uses for tiny bitmap fonts nowadays aside from oldskooly games with big pixel graphics? < 1597071555 474133 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm FontForge’s website looks like the software got a revamp some time ago?.. < 1597071566 931699 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: mostly just esoteric uses, yes, but it's also that a bitmap font is easier and faster to make than a graymap font, even though I could use a graymap font and it would look better < 1597071594 974716 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although some people want to use tiny font in some hardware like led displays or magnetic displays < 1597071613 749387 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of led displays that are only 8 pixels tall, and that's really limiting < 1597071667 140962 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some are actually double height, so a pixel is made of two leds and is approx twice as high as wide, but the two leds don't seem to be individually controlled. but these double height ones are used mostly for advertising < 1597071700 699833 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm making an even smaller font, one that's only 6 pixel tall, with 1 pixel ascender and 1 pixel descender < 1597071716 159537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI calculators are a good use case for tiny bitmap fonts. < 1597071802 692647 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for 8 pixel tall fonts, or 8 pixel tall with 8 pixels of gap, those were useful for games running on old hardware with small ROM and not too capable graphics chip, like NES, SNES, Game Boy, GBC < 1597071811 550617 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meen small ROM on the game cartridge < 1597071857 527727 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on SNES and GBC a few games even used 8 px tall and 4 px wide fonts for their English version, with the CPU copying two characters into one tile definition dynamically as it prints text < 1597071922 712037 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was quite surprised when I first saw that, because displaying such text seems impossible on that hardware at first. I think I've only seen two games that does this, IIRC Earthbound and GBC Pokemon TCG but there might be more < 1597071977 675356 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a lot of games use 8x8px fonts, or 8x8px fonts with an empty row between that is sometimes used for dakuten, the arch-example being GB Pokemon red/blue < 1597072128 423656 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1597072269 696626 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597072430 650395 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a couple of small pixel fonts myself in Fontstruct :D though that was a while ago and my goal of wide codepoint coverage wasn’t quite reached at all < 1597073683 878091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only font I've ever done is the one for https://zem.fi/rfk86/ which is a 4x6 cell with mostly 3x5 characters. But that definitely didn't aspire to (or need) high codepoint coverage. I think I just drew it in Gimp with the grid set to 4x6 pixels, into an image with a couple of 64x48 pixel (16x8=128 character) layers. < 1597074645 969939 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597074969 215170 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:e1cb:9ecc:ea7b:e2ba JOIN :#esoteric < 1597076057 60945 :flv!42827c51@modemcable081.124-130-66.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1597076101 792710 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597076123 823201 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cam across https://dwarffortresswiki.org/Tileset_repository a while ago which has some really tiny bitmap fonts < 1597076174 699303 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have an incomplete list of sub-8x8 bitmap fonts that I can locate in a bit < 1597076219 14218 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1597076219 334182 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1597077064 773053 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1597077101 971320 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1597077205 30313 :flv!42827c51@modemcable081.124-130-66.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds > 1597077558 661543 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:BytFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76574&oldid=76557 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+217) 10 > 1597077583 763334 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:BytFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76575&oldid=76574 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-38) 10 > 1597077622 235717 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BytFuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76576&oldid=75007 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-10) 10 > 1597077666 49759 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BytFuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76577&oldid=76576 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+42) 10 > 1597077774 783885 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76578&oldid=76554 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-1) 10 < 1597078304 788555 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://up.firefly.nu/tmp/fontlist.note.html has some assorted tiny bitmap fonts > 1597078426 519430 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76579&oldid=76578 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-13) 10 < 1597078442 96361 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :for whatever reason I've always enjoyed really tiny bitmap fonts (both studying and making them) < 1597078844 205612 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat JOIN :#esoteric > 1597079099 894574 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Trueclone14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76580&oldid=76553 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+172) 10+Categories < 1597079676 971401 :Melvar!~melvar@dslc-082-082-054-030.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597079928 573492 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I didn't claim that I'd have wide codepoint coverage. I'd only have slightly more than in fecupboard20, but some of those few characters are important to me. < 1597079988 19836 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fonts < 1597079990 701529 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ < 1597080010 25994 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might need to convert this to a page on the esolang wiki, even though it's not really esolang-related < 1597080014 497730 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's getting long < 1597080110 786322 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :could have it as a userpage somewhere < 1597080166 734980 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more fun with bridges, https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/wobbly.jpg < 1597080186 603648 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it doesn't look like much but it was really cheap!) < 1597080219 910362 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: which bridge builder game is that? < 1597080232 916958 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss armadillo run < 1597080250 6337 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome physics game, would love an android port < 1597080326 859806 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are those orange road sections orange because they're stretched? < 1597080348 39563 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :color should be the stress on each segment < 1597080454 907857 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then those road segments are probably stretched < 1597080463 94001 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Bridge Constructor Medieval < 1597080563 905539 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how the Bridge Constructor franchise compares to Polybridge. It's obviously a bit smoother and more diverse (if you count the various spinoffs) than the original Bridge Builder. < 1597080565 958229 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :medieval? so those are supposed to be wooden beams, not steel? < 1597080681 288026 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colors indicate stress... https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/wobblyc.jpg is the construction without stress indication. < 1597080695 242171 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is under Linux, the graphics may not be perfect. < 1597080882 381697 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, [[///]] is not parsed as a link to the /// language on the wiki, you have to write eg. [[:///]] < 1597081368 157815 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1597081456 942066 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat JOIN :#esoteric > 1597082026 180364 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76581&oldid=70006 5* 03B jonas 5* (+675) 10start Incomplete list of some interesting or notable esolangs > 1597082176 793722 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76582&oldid=76581 5* 03B jonas 5* (+64) 10/* Incomplete list of some interesting or notable esolangs */ < 1597082229 773671 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Funciton? > 1597082293 557667 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76583&oldid=76582 5* 03B jonas 5* (+34) 10 > 1597082818 150667 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ZeptoBasic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76584&oldid=57785 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+4) 10grammar++ < 1597082946 81168 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you try making up fonts with METAFONT? > 1597083059 83352 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Category:ICFP contest14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76585&oldid=73618 5* 03B jonas 5* (+91) 10 > 1597083261 410872 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76586&oldid=76583 5* 03B jonas 5* (+897) 10 < 1597083284 421147 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: no sorry, I don't much like Funciton < 1597083323 565642 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't usually talk about that because people don't keep inventing variants or using it for everything like for brainfuck < 1597083332 691496 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's just not a language I like. no specific reason. < 1597083365 273271 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Funciton was a featured language, so it's already two clicks from the front page I think < 1597083372 569371 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one click < 1597083381 499510 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Previously featured: Funciton · Brainfuck · Deadfish · Emmental · more…" < 1597083409 609490 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no need to advertise it more. I could mention Intercal. < 1597083420 693906 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, but I have made a few simple illustrations with metapost, < 1597083495 422928 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but it's just not a language I like. no specific reason. => ah. I understand < 1597083565 167726 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even that it's a two-dimensional language, I'm fine with fungeoids if they're not misused, and I have some ideas for a two-dimensional functional language that is more like funciton than befunge in semantics, but I haven't managed to put together a sane combination yet < 1597083603 563627 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some very specific ideas about the basic syntax, but I might have to split this to multiple different languages semantics-wise depending on how user-defined functions are defined and called < 1597083627 232725 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really tried to work much on this yet < 1597083635 50226 :huntingcryptos!~huntingcr@1.235.118.78.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1597083682 19806 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an idea that I think has to be done because there doesn't yet seem to be an esolang like that, but it isn't too esoteric, and I don't mind too much if someone else does it well first < 1597083821 806759 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a silly 2D syntax for an ordinary imperative or functional language (there may have to be two or three different versions depending) where variables are encoded not with names, not implicitly with pointless programming, not with stack indexes, but with columns in the source code < 1597083874 955765 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-100.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it translates both ways into some ordinary programming language with plain syntax, it's not some actually interesting and unique idea like Consumer Society > 1597084786 365695 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stones14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76587&oldid=76568 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-12) 10 > 1597084994 312746 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76588&oldid=76579 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+63) 10 < 1597088254 898596 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1597088372 31007 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:e1cb:9ecc:ea7b:e2ba QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1597090409 69221 :portalrat!~muskrat@trivialand/player/muskrat QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1597092464 920954 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1597093527 484153 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597093577 889832 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric > 1597094861 513536 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Set14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76589&oldid=75712 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+75) 10/* Links */ > 1597094871 518562 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Set14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76590&oldid=76589 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+1) 10/* Links */ < 1597095047 441515 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.238.198 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds > 1597095487 675857 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Set14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76591&oldid=76590 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+160) 10/* Example code */ > 1597095525 804311 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Set14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76592&oldid=76591 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (+16) 10/* 99 Bottles of Beer */ > 1597095619 984118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Set14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76593&oldid=76592 5* 03Qwertyu63 5* (-13) 10/* Truth Machine */ < 1597095820 16325 :dingwat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kjkdfkywkjdrajek JOIN :#esoteric < 1597096504 93437 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597096763 930552 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1597097687 404230 :t20kdc!~20kdc@cpc139340-aztw33-2-0-cust225.18-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597099945 263821 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597099977 640882 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597100004 102453 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597100732 117245 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597100886 972239 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597101254 900748 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Night < 1597101575 484304 :Melvar!~melvar@dslc-082-082-054-030.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.8 < 1597102200 87640 :Melvar!~melvar@dslc-082-082-054-030.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric