< 1597363473 207368 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rnbfrxgeipvulrdo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1597363531 291996 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Ona li toki e jan Epiphany tawa mi 5* 10New user account < 1597363906 74683 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.147.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1597365090 657991 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76649&oldid=76646 5* 03Ona li toki e jan Epiphany tawa mi 5* (+491) 10/* Introductions */ < 1597368961 258673 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597370772 73255 :dingwat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ffwulwlepikucbuy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1597371162 634410 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597371277 962943 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1597372642 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timeout: 265 seconds < 1597376304 646492 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1597376383 776063 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597378818 961767 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1597378820 242292 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597378900 221369 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1597381704 431953 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MAWP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76650&oldid=76644 5* 03TwilightSparkle 5* (-2) 10/* Computational class */ > 1597383591 992718 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Mornington Crescent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76651&oldid=68666 5* 03TwilightSparkle 5* (+161) 10/* A Game of Mornington Crescent */ < 1597386482 121550 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1597387593 867888 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1597389823 84875 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:e0b3:6f0c:eaa5:7a5f JOIN :#esoteric < 1597390068 26518 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:e0b3:6f0c:eaa5:7a5f QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1597390107 464326 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:39f8:d10a:76b2:3dc4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597390305 152248 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597390417 528109 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:39f8:d10a:76b2:3dc4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1597390453 404900 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:2c72:f895:ba28:3f77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597390721 386196 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:2c72:f895:ba28:3f77 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1597390832 427113 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:d853:ecf2:f344:89f1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597392592 676887 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1597392723 873385 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597393653 144276 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597393741 770757 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/400_tuba/status/1293536424789028869 <-- bottle of dihydrogen monoxide < 1597395658 948954 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@172.242.0.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597400255 866316 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597400492 69253 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/soul-3 says there aren't enough souls so not all humans have one, and "The soul wait-list for new babies is basically eternal." I see two possible interpretations: either every new baby gets onto the waiting list but get a soul only if they have been waiting on the list for the longest time when a soul < 1597400492 601102 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :becomes free, in which case only the oldest people have souls, in this case only people way over 100 years old; < 1597400567 974158 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other interpretation is that only new babies can get a soul, and if there's no soul available just when a baby is at soul-getting age, then they missed their chance forever, in which case a few people, chosen at more or less random, have souls for life. < 1597400601 962078 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reading do you support, fungot? < 1597400602 174801 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: have you looked into set theory, respectively) < 1597400613 330186 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not deeply < 1597401563 6697 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.147.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric > 1597401700 895245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Polarz14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=76652 5* 03TwilightSparkle 5* (+442) 10Created page with "== Hi!! == Hello, I'm TwilightSparkle, an Esolang enthusiast. Here are some esolang recommentations for you: - [[><>]]. A fun language. - [[1+]]. My main interest. - [[MAWP]..." > 1597401716 384483 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Polarz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76653&oldid=76652 5* 03TwilightSparkle 5* (+5) 10/* Hi!! */ < 1597403483 801668 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597405270 443579 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597405413 292808 :thblt!~thblt@unaffiliated/thblt PART #esoteric :"ERC (IRC client for Emacs 28.0.50)" < 1597406804 816363 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1597407594 462538 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursaga < 1597407609 847826 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1597407903 819565 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1597408148 966415 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76654&oldid=76649 5* 03Stormboy876 5* (+111) 10 > 1597408165 530952 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ie14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=76655 5* 03Stormboy876 5* (+1546) 10Created page with "'''ie''' is a [[esoteric programming language]] designed in July 2020 by [[User:Stormboy876]]. It is identical to [[brainfuck]], except that the instructions >..." < 1597408478 725373 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1597409994 663143 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597410023 675326 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric > 1597410125 245404 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Firethrone 5* 10New user account > 1597410462 532154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76656&oldid=76654 5* 03Firethrone 5* (+105) 10/* Introductions */ > 1597410504 680330 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76657&oldid=76656 5* 03Firethrone 5* (-11) 10/* Introductions */ > 1597410523 297435 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76658&oldid=76631 5* 03Firethrone 5* (+16) 10/* C */ < 1597410768 828719 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@172.242.0.73 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597410824 943215 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.69 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597410845 283890 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597410852 591465 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597410864 376138 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1597410983 969627 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CAPscript14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=76659 5* 03Firethrone 5* (+891) 10Created page with ""CAPscript" is a programming language created by [[User:Firethrone]] in August 2020 cause he was bored during online classes and had nothing better to do. Its called CAPscript..." < 1597411013 727255 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1597411057 915820 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CAPscript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76660&oldid=76659 5* 03Firethrone 5* (+15) 10 > 1597411096 132646 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CAPscript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76661&oldid=76660 5* 03Firethrone 5* (+12) 10 > 1597411120 410366 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CAPscript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76662&oldid=76661 5* 03Firethrone 5* (+1) 10 > 1597411132 409752 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CAPscript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76663&oldid=76662 5* 03Firethrone 5* (+0) 10 > 1597413430 846378 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NULL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76664&oldid=72363 5* 03LegionMammal978 5* (+41) 10some bruteforced programs of mine < 1597415080 210642 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:d853:ecf2:f344:89f1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1597416129 286107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SUL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76665&oldid=51037 5* 03Douira 5* (+217) 10added bugs section < 1597416794 359240 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597417183 964545 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.147.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1597417262 442653 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:f5af:98e4:913b:9c44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597417549 469628 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:f5af:98e4:913b:9c44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1597417821 511118 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:f5af:98e4:913b:9c44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597418122 933353 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1597418213 876802 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1597418260 891286 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.147.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1597418561 252434 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( github, what are you thinking, adding a visible reply box to every single comment ) < 1597418660 224366 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( It can be disabled by signing out. Not sure that's what they want people to do :-P ) < 1597418797 894254 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1597418829 837237 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1597419419 984914 :Arcorann!~awych@121-200-5-186.79c805.syd.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1597419502 552863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SUL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76666&oldid=76665 5* 03Douira 5* (+11) 10added github link to version 3 < 1597419741 923559 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: isn't that just the fallback for missing javascript, and the javascript hides it? < 1597419757 301822 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: No. I do allow github to use javascript. < 1597419784 894756 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's a recent change, happened last week I think. < 1597419799 775656 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also made the reactions thing twice as big as before. < 1597419823 596141 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where big = high) < 1597419893 494439 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm probably exaggerating.) < 1597420056 819697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it that "bike" is kind of ambiguously either a bicycle or a motorcycle, but a "biker" is almost always a person who rides a motorcycle, and likewise a "cyclist" for a bicycle? < 1597420122 691188 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obligatory reference to casually explained < 1597420136 565462 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EE8m8mmq1k < 1597420148 654155 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "reaction thing", do you mean the toolbar with the single-emoticon replies under comments? < 1597420235 965894 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are sort of required to make that big and obvious, that's one of their trademarks, making their site distinguishable. mind you, skype does sort of the same, but they don't make the single-emoticon toolbar always visible, and I think they don't have a flower bouquet among the choices < 1597420704 511023 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bad enough without the extra input line. http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/waste.png < 1597420707 552952 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: yes < 1597420733 731781 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the blue shading is by me and indicates space that I consider to be completely wasted. < 1597420736 712408 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1597420751 5351 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not < 1597420757 752385 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is to me < 1597420781 248930 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :change the css and look at it, then < 1597420789 663111 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's horrible < 1597420977 604649 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the thing though. I don't *need* things to be aesthetic. I want to have as much information on the screen as possible. < 1597421010 705314 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I know that this goes against current UI theory. < 1597421011 54203 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much information just hides what actually is important < 1597421023 104316 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *comments* are important. < 1597421059 314370 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :People don't put 1cm of whitespace between paragraphs in books either, they rely on a rather subtle indicator, indenting the first word, for separating those. < 1597421061 184921 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, there is a reason practically every irc client has the option to wrap lines in a way that line starts of the message match < 1597421072 437431 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more offer the ability to right-align nicknames < 1597421150 456958 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs.
< 1597421185 775416 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use bold face for nicknames and that's plenty indication to find them on the screen for me. < 1597421189 718703 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a good umbrella term for preconditions as well as benefits of an effect? < 1597421289 127418 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: It's also worth noting that I don't have a smartphone so I'm not exposed to touch-optimized UIs (where the extra space is required because the precision of the inputs is so low). I believe that had a huge impact on this idea of wasted space. < 1597421307 614289 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, less exposed < 1597421335 600734 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm old, I grew up with 80x25 terminals which really had no space to waste at all. < 1597421339 463458 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the precision of touch input is actually higher than one would expect < 1597421370 213743 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am currently in the process of writing a terminal game because i am pretty annoyed by the existing ones < 1597421375 65074 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's significantly better than the size of a finger. < 1597421551 842076 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main thing with touch inputs is... you hide the target as you touch it. That's a huge deal. < 1597421705 31356 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i am currently using 32 rows but only 52 colums < 1597421717 638618 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should re-arrange my ui < 1597421768 551442 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :80x25 terminal is the spice < 1597421773 924929 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 rows less is easy, 8 rows is touch < 1597421776 763278 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have some bbs accounts < 1597421780 70985 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tough < 1597421961 916835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently using 76x37, or 76x61 if I hide the on-screen keyboard. But then again, this is one of those smartphones. < 1597422085 85346 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my default terminal size is 98x36 but it's much higher on my smartphone < 1597422110 45341 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1597422374 655526 :dingwat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gnkvprqbfbnxuykp JOIN :#esoteric < 1597422388 659927 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597422463 147753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My most common terminal size is probably "half the screen" (I'm a BSP-layout-pretty-exclusively kind of person), which would be 159x92 or 159x94, depending on whether it's the screen with the extra bar on it. < 1597422586 144798 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's huge without vertical splitting < 1597422701 729175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they're mostly either IRC or command prompts, so the immediately interesting bit is at the bottom, and what's higher up is just conveniently visible history. < 1597422873 408880 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1080`div`13 < 1597422875 470613 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 83 < 1597422948 535879 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(81 is what I actually get) < 1597422980 373912 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :height is easy to fill, width not so much < 1597422995 376927 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am way more comfortable with longer terminals than with wider ones < 1597423024 157179 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's fair to say that the 80 column problem has kept me away from tiling WM. < 1597423027 414507 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*WMs < 1597423096 230900 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what problem? < 1597423197 685850 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the desire to have 80 character wide terminals < 1597423201 163226 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and editors < 1597423213 895484 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, exactly? < 1597423216 720212 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1597423222 906978 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you haven't noticed yet, my habits die hard. < 1597423277 891985 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1597423327 986273 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my setup is basically splitting into a master are with a browser and some slaves to the right with terminals of a precise widths < 1597423342 308823 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 80 though, that would be far to narrow for my taste < 1597423416 364468 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could afford 102 or so. < 1597423467 296440 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I run into the hard constraint which is fitting three terminal windows side by side on the screen. < 1597423531 667973 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use a font that isn't as wide :p < 1597423548 214607 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't really an option < 1597423799 155029 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1597424382 145230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm sure some tiling window managers are sufficiently customizable to, in theory, permit you to write a layout that will make terminals 80 characters wide, and just resize other kinds of windows (or leave gaps if there are only terminals). < 1597424437 470983 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, laziness is a factor. < 1597424497 269459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`xmonad-contrib` has a very simple variant of that in the XMonad.Layout.FixedColumn module, which will use a fixed multiple of the window's minimum resize dimension (which for terminals tends to be 1 character cell) for the master pane. But it's not particularly flexible. < 1597424498 349381 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :xmonad-contrib`? No such file or directory < 1597424501 921560 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm not unhappy with my current WM (which has been the same for more than two decades) < 1597424528 611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to remember my progression of window managers the other day, but couldn't. :/ < 1597424576 196340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy. fvwm -> fvwm2. Plus some exposure to Sun's CDE. < 1597424624 615714 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my progression was gnome -> pekwm -> notion -> herbstluftwm < 1597424631 181948 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent quite a bit of energy on customizing fvwm2 < 1597424666 378854 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the main source of pain was the lack of multiple screen support for laptops, especially when giving presentations. < 1597424669 818092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I went something like fvwm2 → fvwm95 → Enlightenment → WindowMaker → blackbox → fluxbox → evilwm → awesome → XMonad. < 1597424688 728480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CDE only for the SPARC workstations at the university.) < 1597424705 317875 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, my CDE exposure has the same cause. < 1597424748 695553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have gotten the boxes wrong, maybe one of those was openbox. < 1597426094 988288 :applehattie!~hattie_@50-81-10-13.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1597427107 208999 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: You can consider adding your own CSS codes to adjust stuff on web pages. (I find such adjustment is generally unnecessary when the web page does not use CSS anyways, though) < 1597427436 869548 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:f5af:98e4:913b:9c44 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597427757 248619 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What font are you using in the terminal window? < 1597427877 950092 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 6x13 fixed font. < 1597427883 511186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same as you I believe. < 1597427930 188068 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I use the same one < 1597428100 480035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm on my third cycle of swapping between bitmap and vector fonts, and have now stuck with Tamzen8x15r.bdf for a while.) < 1597428803 213061 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-131.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1597428911 194821 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking about something weird < 1597429150 521277 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: quit < 1597429556 8836 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:f5af:98e4:913b:9c44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597429696 813235 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, ZZT was written by the Epic founder? < 1597429701 855452 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny. < 1597429746 250193 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, it is < 1597429757 789405 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :written by the Epic founder < 1597429777 186649 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, it was the first game they released) < 1597431864 15605 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597431881 404670 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1597432325 765861 :applehattie!~hattie_@50-81-10-13.client.mchsi.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1597432509 39669 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:f5af:98e4:913b:9c44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1597432663 792738 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1597432704 843708 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1597432877 26697 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597432899 328003 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu > 1597433037 372892 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Palaiologos14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=76667&oldid=76254 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+59) 10MalbolgeLisp mention < 1597433166 119944 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597433231 448114 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:e879:290a:4d6:41c6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597433693 67709 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:711d:2e28:8889:f5ef JOIN :#esoteric < 1597433889 409418 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:e879:290a:4d6:41c6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1597434103 934934 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1597435097 35809 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1597435106 345195 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.69 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1597438202 629917 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 1.6 < 1597438248 258764 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597438317 886082 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Client Quit < 1597438418 954160 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597438468 805687 :ubq323!~ubq323@host86-157-125-247.range86-157.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1597439877 190966 :ubq323!~ubq323@host86-157-125-247.range86-157.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597440264 406735 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597441324 884078 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:711d:2e28:8889:f5ef QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597441688 446679 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:6442:40d5:e6fc:4763 JOIN :#esoteric < 1597441712 518533 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:844d:dece:9bd4:fbb2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597442837 217901 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:ca3:2800:6442:40d5:e6fc:4763 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1597444127 123089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1597444271 27244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1597444718 9256 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.147.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1597447000 138938 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1597448281 177933 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 JOIN :#esoteric