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01:52:18 <int-e> . o O ( pstree -up; netstat -nap )
01:54:49 <fizzie> Someone told me netstat's obsolete and it's all about ss now.
01:57:08 <int-e> Someone told me that old habits die hard.
01:58:06 <int-e> woah those lines get long
01:58:54 <int-e> but you can do ss -nap if you want to.
02:00:32 <fizzie> That's a lotta chrome's and 443's.
02:01:45 <int-e> The graph on http://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html is great. And sad.
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02:45:56 <fizzie> Your link sidetracked me to go read about that Wikimedia stuff.
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08:19:26 <arseniiv> <wib_jonas> isn't "basic lens functionality" stuff like map and reduce? => sorry, didn’t see that. I meant composable lenses first and foremost, and non-destructive setters as their part, and a good syntax to go with that
08:21:11 <arseniiv> b_jonas: (BTW does the prefixed version of the name ping you when you use the usual one?)
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09:52:04 <b_jonas> arseniiv: yes, wib_jonas pings me if I am b_jonsa
09:56:19 <b_jonas> fizzie: and does ipv4 dhcp get you an ip address that works?
09:57:14 <b_jonas> fizzie: yes, I learned about ss too when I was trying to get a certain information from the kernel from debugging and netstat couldn't do it and I asked on irc. apparently ss is to netstat like ip is to ifconfig
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10:40:11 <b_jonas> fizzie: and are you actually paying for ipv6 connectivity in the service, or was that just an experimental free test service that they now changed to offering for extra charge (I know it makes no sense, but some ISPs do charge money for it)
10:44:53 <fizzie> No, I'm not paying for it specifically. The support page says "we're currently in the process of rolling out IPv6 to all our customers free of charge" (unchanged for at least a couple years); the rollout in this location happened sometime in 2018, but I guess it might still be considered experimental.
10:51:12 <fizzie> user3456: What happened was, it was all done in Ruby, and the linear algebra lib I was using to do the math (for scores) just died. I started doing a rewrite (in some other language) to re-launch it on esolangs.org instead, but never got around to finishing it. Hasn't been much demand for BF Joust, honestly; even in the past, it's been *very* seasonal.
10:52:14 <b_jonas> why does it need linear algebra
10:52:22 <b_jonas> I do understand ruby programs breaking regardless though
10:53:06 <b_jonas> they did a lot of incompatible changes between minor versions so you would have to keep updating old scripts from 1.4 to 1.6, 1.6 to 1.8, 1.8 to 1.9, 1.9 to 2.1, etc
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10:57:49 <fizzie> It doesn't *really* need it, but some of the scoring algorithms (especially the "Markov scoring") are marginally easier to express like that (details at http://zem.fi/bfjoust/internals/ still).
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11:03:53 <fizzie> (The rewrite was going to be integrated to the `esowiki` bot for convenience, but I got sort of sidetracked into writing a RPC scheme because I didn't want any instability in the BF Joust parts potentially messing up the more important task of channel logging.)
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11:55:22 <Taneb> I think I've got an integer sequence that's not in the OEIS but I'm not yet 100% sure it's well-defined
11:56:19 <Taneb> If we take the even Fibonacci numbers, this can be done as 0 => 0, 1 => 2, n + 2 => 4 * (n + 1) + n
11:56:45 <Taneb> Fibonacci numbers that are a multiple of 3, 0 => 0, 1 => 3, n + 2 => 7 * (n + 1) - n
11:57:09 <Taneb> Multiples of 4, 0 => 0, 1 => 8, n + 2 => 18 * (n + 1) - n
11:57:30 <Taneb> Sequence is the coefficient of (n + 1) there
11:57:42 <Taneb> I think it goes 1, 4, 7, 18, 11, 322, 47
11:59:53 <Taneb> Because it's in terms of the two preceeding elements
12:01:01 <Arcorann_> Might want to fix your notation then because my brain mentally simplifies the first line to n + 2 => 5 * n + 4
12:01:17 <Taneb> Yeah, my notation there is awful
12:02:25 <Taneb> I think it continues 18, 422, 1364
12:02:56 <Arcorann_> Probably should verify your relations actually work as well
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13:22:24 <Taneb> `welcome brrrrrrrrrrrr
13:22:27 <HackEso> brrrrrrrrrrrr: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <https://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
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13:40:58 <arseniiv> hm we need a xenharmonic esolang, aren’t we?
13:41:13 <arseniiv> unfortunately I’m still not too deep in
13:44:55 <arseniiv> you should use comma puns and depending what commas are punned, different actions may be performed. Loops may be represented as cyclical chord progressions?..
13:45:21 <arseniiv> and they should be valid from some standpoint
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14:58:31 <int-e> How do you pun with a comma? How do you pun, with a comma?
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17:18:58 <arseniiv> int-e: almost exactly like that, yeah: the comma is there but it’s not there modulo temperament. Smaller the comma better the pun works. Famous zero-width comma is punned in many works
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