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06:56:26 <esowiki> [[Talk:BitSwitch]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=78883 * Tetrapyronia * (+985) /* Python3 Interpreter Update */ new section
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15:53:01 <arseniiv> fungot: finally I’m back sane and almost in full health, aren’t you glad that it’s so?
15:53:01 <fungot> arseniiv: if you ain't got nothing if you ain't got a cow.' he sniffed the planks.
15:54:47 <arseniiv> I ain’t got a cow unfortunately, though my cat when she doesn’t like something, is content to say something almost like “moo”
15:55:01 <arseniiv> though several octaves higher of course
15:55:56 <arseniiv> `password
15:55:57 <HackEso> hdmjitwhihpndow
15:56:06 <arseniiv> oh gods
15:59:22 <dionys> !secure_my_password hunter2
16:09:18 <APic> Whoah
16:09:29 <APic> Finally need to read some Bash.org again
16:09:33 <APic> Thanks for the Reminder ☺
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17:35:31 <b_jonas> arseniiv: oh no, how will you ever fit into #esoteric now?
17:46:09 <arseniiv> b_jonas: why wouldn’t I?
17:48:26 <arseniiv> do you mean I should be a bit insane, well, that aspect is in check as always, it didn’t degrade when I was under virus
17:54:23 <arseniiv> my first thought seeing “how will you ever fit into” was “am I that fat already?” :D (contrary, I think I lost a kilo maybe)
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18:12:14 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/move]] move * LegionMammal978 * moved [[Wenyan-lang]] to [[Wenyan]]: website only calls the language "wenyan"; "wenyan-lang" is the name of the repo
18:12:14 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/move]] move * LegionMammal978 * moved [[Talk:Wenyan-lang]] to [[Talk:Wenyan]]: website only calls the language "wenyan"; "wenyan-lang" is the name of the repo
18:12:31 <esowiki> [[Wenyan]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78889&oldid=78885 * LegionMammal978 * (+9) fixed title
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18:22:03 <b_jonas> arseniiv: yes, I'm saying that you fit better here if you are insane like the rest of us regulars; I'm not making a statement of judgement on whether you should be insane, you have to consider the tradeoffs
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18:22:18 <b_jonas> `? alice
18:22:19 <HackEso> Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
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18:23:42 <arseniiv> b_jonas: ha! but wasn’t I already sufficiently insane when I made 0123
18:24:03 <arseniiv> it’s still a draft in my user space, even
18:24:35 <arseniiv> is that a sane thing to do (:
18:25:26 <b_jonas> `? everyone
18:25:27 <HackEso> Everyone in here is mad.
18:25:32 <b_jonas> ^ found it, that's the wisdom
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18:28:07 <b_jonas> `q 702
18:28:08 <HackEso> 702) <zzo38> I think we are sort of this insane, and also sort of not as much as insane, and also sort of a bit more insane than that, and also somewhat more various other thing at various times whatever you are discussing at that time
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18:28:31 <b_jonas> `q 776
18:28:32 <HackEso> 776) <zzo38> Yes you are correct you must be mad or you wouldn't have come here. No escape either, sorry.
18:30:31 <b_jonas> `q 1157
18:30:32 <HackEso> 1157) <zzo38> I think it is allowed to be both sane and insane simultaneously.
18:30:41 <b_jonas> arseniiv: ^ oh hey, I might have been wrong, maybe you can be sane still
18:32:24 <arseniiv> b_jonas: yeah I prefer both, add milk and lemon to my tea
18:32:34 <arseniiv> though I joke about tea
18:32:53 <arseniiv> I can tolerate them only in parallel
18:34:48 <arseniiv> though I’m not keen to drink lemon tea, it’s to acidic to for my emotional teeth. I think they have an enamel defect or something
18:35:08 <arseniiv> s/to acidic to/too acidic
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20:43:26 <b_jonas> ``` set -e; echo $'#include<string.h>\n#include<math.h>\n#include<stdio.h>\n''int main(int c, char *v[]) { unsigned long i[2]={~0UL,0}; long double f,g; memcpy(&f,i,16); g = nextafterl(f,INFINITY); if(g<f)printf("fun\n"); }' >pd.c; gcc -std=gnu11 -lm -Wall -O -o pd pd.c; ./pd
20:43:27 <HackEso> fun
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20:44:49 <b_jonas> ^ on x86-linux, where long double is x87 80-bit float type, glibc's nextafterl function misbehaves on a pseudodenormal input. this is probably not a bug. if you ever needed to work around this, you could subtract zero from ther input first, but good luck finding a future-proof way to convince the compiler not to optimize away the subtract zero.
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20:53:01 <kmc> is there not a function to normalize a long double?
20:53:58 <kmc> also what does pseudodenormal even mean
20:57:18 <b_jonas> kmc: the x87 80-bit float type stores the top bit of the significand explicitly, the one that's always 1 in a normal number but 0 in a denormal, and that's not stored in the much more common IEEE 32-bit and 64-bit float formats. if you set that top bit wrong, you get a wierd floating-point value. in almost all cases, x87 officially doesn't support such values, though I'm not quite sure what extent "does
20:57:24 <b_jonas> not support" imply. however,
20:58:23 <b_jonas> it does explicitly allow pseudo-denormal inputs, to such extent that in arithmetic operations, it normalizes them to the normal number with equal value (by incrementing the exponent field by one). so if you subtract one using a real x87 instruction, it will do that normalization (and no other change).
20:58:57 <b_jonas> there's no way to get pseudo-denormals from sane operations, and they're not something you would normally encounter. but with an explicit memcpy, like this, you can get a pseudo-denormal value into f.
20:59:16 <kmc> ah
21:03:43 <b_jonas> ah, the intel docs says that (in 387 and later) the other weird 80-bit float values "generate an invalid-operation exception when these encodings are encountered as operands". it also says that pseudo-denormal inputs "are handled correctly; that is, they are treated as denormals and a denormal exception is generated. Pseudo-denormal numbers should not be used as operand values."
21:08:21 <esowiki> [[H]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78890&oldid=78112 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+2) can -> can't
21:09:16 <esowiki> [[USERA]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78891&oldid=71263 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-9) unpipe cross-namespace link
21:13:21 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78892&oldid=78845 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+80) Rot
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21:16:19 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78894&oldid=78893 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* Rot */ Rot
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21:17:13 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78896&oldid=78895 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* Rot */ Finish
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21:37:30 <esowiki> [[BitSwitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78898&oldid=78897 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+117) unpipe, cats, computational class
21:40:07 <esowiki> [[JSMeth]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78899&oldid=78806 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+87) stack islike tape
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22:16:40 <esowiki> [[Exotic]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=78901 * Hakerh400 * (+2742) +[[Exotic]]
22:16:43 <esowiki> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78902&oldid=78869 * Hakerh400 * (+13) +[[Exotic]]
22:16:47 <esowiki> [[User:Hakerh400]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78903&oldid=78884 * Hakerh400 * (+13) +[[Exotic]]
22:22:56 <esowiki> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78904&oldid=78792 * Hakerh400 * (+71) +[[Exotic]]
22:44:50 <esowiki> [[Exotic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78905&oldid=78901 * Hakerh400 * (+170) Add a new example
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23:26:30 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=78906&oldid=78880 * JuicyGuyzer * (+13) /* Introductions */
23:27:04 <esowiki> [[User:JuicyGuyzer]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=78907 * JuicyGuyzer * (+16) Created page with "Im juicy haha"
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