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02:51:20 <b_jonas> https://xkcd.com/2401/ => wait, wasn't that in November? or were they just already close in November, with Mars also close to them, but actually got closest now?
02:53:02 <b_jonas> looks like it is now indeed
02:53:48 <kmc> about 8 hours ago
02:53:52 <kmc> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_conjunction#2020
02:53:59 <kmc> I just got back from viewing it in the park here
02:54:02 <kmc> was kinda neat
02:54:04 <kmc> we saw Mars too
02:54:09 <kmc> but Mars was pretty far away in the sky
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02:57:22 <kmc> is it just coincidence that this is happening on the solstice or is that astronomically related somehow
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02:58:48 <b_jonas> nor was Mars close to them back in November, I'm just stupid
03:00:54 <kmc> happy Solstice all :)
03:01:06 <kmc> the short days are really getting to me this year, i'm glad they will start to get longer
03:02:43 <b_jonas> I should probably try to look at it after a sunset, but most of the winter is cloudy, plus I'm in a big city with lots of light so it's hard to see anythin, I'm not sure I can even see the Saturn by naked eye in this light. I have seen Jupiter and Mars.
03:03:06 <b_jonas> and yes, the winter has too little daylight, it sucks
03:03:47 <b_jonas> well, we'll see if there'll be a gap in the clouds
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08:28:23 <int-e> AoC seems to hate me today, hmm. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
08:29:15 <int-e> (I'm sure I did get the point of the second part, but the site doesn't like my answer.)
08:30:41 <shachaf> I saw someone in another channel say that, and later they said what they did wrong.
08:30:47 <shachaf> But presumably quoting that would be spoilers.
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12:25:20 <shachaf> <imode> does it look like an operator? throw it on the stack. else throw it on an output queue.
12:25:36 <shachaf> I finally figured out what I think must be approximately the shunting yard algorithm.
12:25:44 <shachaf> I never understood why people talked about an output queue.
12:26:03 <shachaf> My conclusion: There is no output queue, and that's only necessary if you want to convert to RPN or somethign. There's an output stack.
12:28:11 <shachaf> Very reasonable. There's an operand stack and an operator stack. At various times you pop off the two top operands and combine them with the top operator.
12:28:46 <shachaf> This still seems too complicated so maybe I'll figure out how to simplify it tomorrow.
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14:42:54 <int-e> hmm "output queue"
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14:54:41 <fizzie> What I did wrong in AoC today was to, yes, check my `seen` map for whether this position has already been seen, but not actually ever set anything in it. So at least my input seems to have one of those otherwise-infinite games.
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15:12:43 <fizzie> Also, while it's been very cloudy most of the days, Sunday was clear, so did manage to see Jupter & Saturn on Sunday after sunset, just from our balcony.
15:18:56 <fizzie> Also snapped a picture (without any sort of telescope, just a regular APS-C-crop DSLR and the cheapest 55-250mm zoom lens money can buy), and if you squint at it, you can imagine a little bit of a shape for Saturn that could be suggestive of rings, at least when comparing to other people's better pictures: https://zem.fi/tmp/img_7899.jpg
15:22:36 <int-e> . o O ( Parentheses should be disallowed (except to clarify information already given, to provide a rationale, or to go off unrelated tangents). )
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15:30:08 <fizzie> Fair enough (though really that still (arguably) leaves quite a lot of scope for parentheses (even nested ones)).
15:46:33 <int-e> fizzie: The context is that I failed to properly read today's 2nd part of AoC... and needed help to figure that out.
15:47:29 <fizzie> Oh, I thought that was about my parenthetical remarks (which would have been fair enough as well (I overuse parens)).
15:47:57 <int-e> I'm not usually opposed to parentheses.
15:48:19 <int-e> But I underestimated how dangerous they are.
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23:25:59 <fizzie> Made a new plot while at it: https://zem.fi/tmp/aoc/time.dist.html
23:26:04 <fizzie> (Shame about that day 1 of 2020 though.)
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