< 1608684024 224667 :magma!~magma@host-79-22-138-220.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1608688436 957047 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1608688489 580750 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1608688516 585164 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1608689510 593436 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Footsteps14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79573&oldid=79569 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+5) 10only import re if calling directly > 1608689543 149756 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Footsteps14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79574&oldid=79573 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-1) 10excess whitespace > 1608689596 734289 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Footsteps14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79575&oldid=79574 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+12) 10fix code formatting < 1608690475 112419 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie these are cool < 1608690529 168239 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pretty much unexpected to see peaks around just 3 minutes < 1608690555 436624 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I guess the website is brigaded by ACM/topcoder guys and I really had no chance ..D > 1608690562 868759 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79576&oldid=79546 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+101) 10silberjoder > 1608690614 275461 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79577&oldid=79576 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+20) 10whoops < 1608690630 722807 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that peak in bottom two plots? < 1608690783 89327 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.imgur.com/h3TuUBu.png < 1608690889 640286 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back to my coding OS < 1608694078 556681 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1608694259 557079 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07RASEL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79578&oldid=79488 5* 03Nakilon 5* (+50) 10added Factorial example < 1608694560 389713 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: The server died at the start of day 1 < 1608694645 811450 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ..D < 1608694797 953102 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge's factorial example foes not utilize the 'g' instruction < 1608694803 815769 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my example is different < 1608694905 425573 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they unfold the input down to 1 and then fold it; my stack size is used in the same amount but not for the same reason < 1608694927 969027 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is using the same < 1608694986 885258 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because 'a' is duplicating, not swapping < 1608695057 432751 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about random access swap instead of random access dup previously but I'm not sure it would be always practical < 1608695079 146548 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could make a neat quicksort implementation though < 1608695104 348854 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean any in-place sort < 1608696385 990499 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@188.163.100.177 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1608697683 906414 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric > 1608699658 945629 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07RASEL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79579&oldid=79578 5* 03Nakilon 5* (+81) 10Fibonacci example added < 1608699938 335094 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, I thought Fibonacci starts with 1 1 > 1608700220 67156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07RASEL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79580&oldid=79579 5* 03Nakilon 5* (+0) 10/* Nth Fibonacci number */ the sequence starts with 0, not 1 < 1608700256 319140 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this bot is lightning fast < 1608702974 833796 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: Well the usual definition uses F_0 = 0, F_1 = F_2 = 1 < 1608702998 299576 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the question is which of those is the start of the sequence < 1608703031 136021 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(picking F_0 = 0 induces nice properties like that n | m (n divides m) implies F_n | F_m) < 1608703226 615230 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1608703435 301422 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is relatively easy to see if you know a bit of modular arithmetic. < 1608703470 158979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh man, that's great. < 1608703485 262871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always said the sequence starts with 1,1 < 1608703495 604064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is a good way to settle that argument. < 1608703497 786944 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, modulo F_n, the sequence starts with 0,1; now look around F_n: F_n = 0 (mod F_n), F_m = a (mod F_n) for some a. So at this point you repeat the Fibonacci sequence, but multiplied by a. < 1608703516 117079 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :F_(2n) = a*0 = 0 (mod F_n) < 1608703531 764440 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :F_(3n) = a^2*0 = 0 (mod F_n), and so on. < 1608703579 7385 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use the same argument backwards (F_(n-2) = -F_(n-1) + F_n) to get it for negative numbers as well. < 1608703674 393954 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a diagram of which languages are used to make reference implementations of the eso langs < 1608703720 193465 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python, C/C++, Haskell? Also, whichever language the implementor currently wants to learn. < 1608703723 907285 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I've noticed this one is made in Ruby too https://esolangs.org/wiki/Hexagony < 1608703756 494443 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes, I did forget Perl (and thus Ruby which is different but in the same "total mess" category to my mind) < 1608703756 837526 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people don't decide what to learn randomly < 1608703759 126383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess C/C++ is some sort of quotient language. < 1608703772 17686 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they chose from what is available and availabilities are expanding < 1608703779 142123 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and languages are improving < 1608703808 595667 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e lol your imagination of Ruby is opposite from the truth < 1608703818 189879 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most comprehensive language < 1608703835 370508 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but comprehensive != comprehensible < 1608703845 178222 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why things are usually made first in ruby and then pythonazis port them to their language < 1608703859 3606 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e I'm not native English speaker < 1608703861 832096 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :we doin' language wars again? < 1608703899 424306 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask pythonazis < 1608703907 412023 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :To clarify, I have never used Ruby, so I obviously I can't be objective about it. < 1608703917 83659 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying I I would like to see a diagram < 1608703928 947390 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what defines a "pythonazi". < 1608703936 511657 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haters < 1608703938 76248 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Python, am I a Pythonazi. < 1608703953 850199 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the only language I know is da best" guys < 1608703959 778871 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: "comprehensive" means all-encompassing, embedding features from all around. "comprehensible" means easy to understand. < 1608703961 934876 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like you're one of those. < 1608703974 525617 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1608703990 3513 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not even hiding that you tell lie about me < 1608703993 947382 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the sign < 1608704030 417663 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you took a stance on ruby and called out python. what else do you want me to conclude. < 1608704030 616467 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies is the main weapon of haters < 1608704043 420739 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby good python bad < 1608704051 203982 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :X good Y bad < 1608704054 114443 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we were having a discussion, apparently not. < 1608704055 616187 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I provided an argument < 1608704060 35663 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while you just lied < 1608704071 610129 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you was just triggered < 1608704089 584856 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because someone started the topic of language design < 1608704093 609691 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and choice < 1608704112 246116 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1608704112 517329 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1608704138 607211 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?v < 1608704138 874118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'J' < 1608704159 769226 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching you explode is fun. you certainly aren't a regular. < 1608704196 386000 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unsure what happened here. < 1608704197 449803 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat? < 1608704253 587211 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude started doing false accusations on me < 1608704257 900525 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what happened, lol < 1608704258 913842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refuse to use Ruby because it converts all my screenshots to JPEG. < 1608704260 687151 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: someone with a lack of a grasp on the english language took issue with what you said about ruby, called some people pythonazis, I asked what that meant, his head exploded. < 1608704271 674109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer languages like Visual Basic that stick with BMP format. < 1608704278 81266 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now thinks imaginary people are telling lies about 'im. < 1608704285 79674 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't hate Ruby. I can't. I haven't used it. I have a prejudice against it that means I won't pick it up voluntarily. That's all. < 1608704302 570467 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby is alright. people go too far sometimes with DSL-oriented stuff. < 1608704306 514787 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinatra is a nice library. < 1608704318 177245 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao, you behave like real teenager; what's wrong about english language? < 1608704338 277905 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :toxic < 1608704340 593515 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: Do you know what projection is... < 1608704351 490105 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't parse things correctly so you read intent correctly. people do it. it's fine. < 1608704362 544396 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/intent correctly/intent incorrectly < 1608704363 148353 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to care a lot about programming languages < 1608704365 790794 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :there I go projecting again. < 1608704384 990217 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I spend my time growing mushrooms < 1608704396 723002 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are they ISO standard mushrooms. < 1608704419 375887 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is there an ISO standard for mushrooms? < 1608704419 572201 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: we did not allow a motion for the interinstitutional agreement with the binding part a. parliament will recall and the record shows that during the vote on that issue the european parliament and fnord should be able to do this. < 1608704430 503431 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1608704434 624717 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a vote is required. < 1608704461 4209 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot saves the day once again < 1608704461 186166 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mr president, first i want to concentrate on his proposal in paragraph 6 about the absence of european union budgetary absurdity. the commission does not accept amendment no 3 < 1608704466 568220 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot < 1608704466 934253 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mr president, you cannot say, on behalf of my group is very unhappy, to say " yes" vote. there are occasions when " a one size fits all' legislation which ignores the lessons of poverty i, ii and iii, target methods, must be called to account for the spending of the structural fnord, because of the specific directives cover both these spheres of cooperation. < 1608704468 934740 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. < 1608704641 97348 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people hate those who can what they can't < 1608704995 1682 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn An opinion is but the first step towards a fully fledged flame war. < 1608704997 652337 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'opinion': An opinion is but the first step towards a fully fledged flame war. < 1608705046 445059 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember when I get used to get heated about languages. that was when I knew one language and thought my opinion extended to things I barely used. < 1608705078 601938 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why then you keep behaving like that? < 1608705099 173994 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't touch you and you started false accusations < 1608705126 442020 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :argentina < 1608705154 893687 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I don't know the answer to this question -- I just wonder how exactly you are going to pretend < 1608705165 906117 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice cream < 1608705221 231855 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses." -- Bjarne Stroustrup < 1608705284 273199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably that's whatever the dual of an inclusive or is. < 1608705299 254348 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :equivalence? < 1608705308 784862 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, never mind. < 1608705320 474110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the claim is that languages have at least one of those properties. < 1608705324 529446 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inclusive, not exclusive) < 1608705343 734887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's just a regular inclusive or. < 1608705371 991987 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny sentence you once write does not have to be true to make people repeat it for ages < 1608705378 463179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever. C++ is so far from Pareto-optimal and it gets farther with every new version. < 1608705397 774198 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :wintery mix < 1608705446 119110 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more correct the sentence is the more hard it is to be understood and remembered < 1608705573 873803 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( But the converse is not true. ) < 1608705602 982274 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple butter < 1608705623 578150 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering if I can exhaust this conversation tree by uttering random shit. < 1608705656 413508 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to add something valuable < 1608705676 2553 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon cake < 1608705693 246437 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, is that what Stroustrup said? Probably it is true, even if not entirely absolute (for various reasons). < 1608706125 355609 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :All absolute truths are false. I think. < 1608706166 437259 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not quite paradoxical.) < 1608706347 754629 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. Mathematical truths can be true (although, if you try to write it in words or symbols without a context of the system in use, then that representation isn't an absolute meaning, since it is only a representation in words or symbols). < 1608706698 907086 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's classically false, of course. Assuming it were true, it should be false, which is a contradiction. So it must be false... and there's no contradiction at all (which means it's not a paradox). < 1608706811 111338 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a different note... today's AoC twist seems to be unfriendly towards Haskell (I actually used C for that part). < 1608707097 740301 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a language that is self-modifying but on itself < 1608707115 510494 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll find some of that in largely homoiconic languages. < 1608707116 810607 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more data go through the more code changes < 1608707120 743683 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a road < 1608707248 364455 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like here http://www.zachtronics.com/infinifactory/ < 1608707292 413944 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes to solve the puzzle or to golf it the program was finishing building itself already in runtime < 1608707319 546195 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the more data go through the more code changes" reminds me of the runner-ups in http://underhanded-c.org/_page_id_16.html < 1608707386 791517 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The RC4 ones) < 1608707530 737745 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the space of the Infinifactory reminds the funge space < 1608707541 985577 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only data could move < 1608707565 148062 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the basic thing in other Zachtronix games like SpaceChem and OpusMagnum < 1608707646 78678 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the solution in these games is a... coordinates of blocks in 2d or 3d space, like instructions in funge < 1608707701 661960 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the huge Conway's Life machines do something similar when they send planers from one side to another < 1608707759 519756 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in SpaceChem the input enters the field and you build the rules to move it further < 1608707835 781066 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in TIS-100 the data space isn't a big grid with "code" placed wherever you want, but 9 (or 12, I don't remember) modules < 1608707961 628491 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so imagine you have strings going from stdin to stdout through a space and you describe the regions that process the data when it comes in < 1608708008 797345 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I moved from the idea of self-modifying to some another stuff < 1608708020 285164 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think zachtronix games are inspirational here < 1608711785 216837 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had tcc crash compiling one of the tools for my font < 1608711802 560866 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I locate where tcc is crashing < 1608711938 416306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run it in a debugger? < 1608711956 896833 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile it with debugging symbols and run it in a debugger. < 1608712019 772546 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to find all wiki pages that belong to two specified categories? < 1608712139 176336 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this is it https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-Category_Search but I don't know how to find even if this extension is available < 1608712798 858374 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Version ... nope < 1608712931 573487 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does wiki have json api? < 1608712979 52553 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to use a tool then to parse the category pages I need but it throws "json parse error" that tried to parse html < 1608713012 352290 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the MediaWiki documentation. I know there is a API. < 1608713154 888750 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.202.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1608713266 831986 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include < 1608713266 982915 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct bdfinfo; < 1608713267 601984 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct bdfinfo fontinfo; < 1608713274 61551 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is all that is needed < 1608713292 497094 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't include fcntl.h it works fine < 1608713307 673270 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the website throws The action specified by the URL is invalid. on #"siteinfo"}> < 1608713316 168806 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, it gives an error message, but the point is it doesn't crash < 1608713393 510009 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1608713563 767659 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :running the preprocessing step separately from compilation prevents the error < 1608713713 167354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: I get "it.c:3: error: unknown type size" < 1608713925 148563 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-146-112-4.natnow.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1608713929 319762 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind, another library works < 1608714958 319000 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it appears to be some sort of interaction between the version of TCC i'm using and the version of gnu stdlib I'm using < 1608715080 782092 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1608715829 70471 :magma!~magma@host-79-22-138-220.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1608717046 292651 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1608717082 800064 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1608718384 391697 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.9 < 1608719195 607343 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I hope I won't get tired too soon filling this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14_y5yUEU9yrb-vuFzxwuJKBP8ri5ruav8SmD0qEysbs/edit?usp=sharing < 1608719419 957828 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define __END_DECLS < 1608719420 66711 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef unsigned int __uint32_t; < 1608719420 66748 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :__END_DECLS < 1608719420 66756 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct bdfinfo; < 1608719420 841452 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct bdfinfo fontinfo; < 1608720259 639240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren: Still just an error. < 1608720322 22659 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1608720344 399348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In both Ubuntu tcc 0.9.27 and latest git tcc. < 1608720364 410319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have run into other tcc bugs, though. < 1608720547 859777 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it was fixed in .27 < 1608721161 954766 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://scott.mn/2014/08/25/coding_in_notepad/ < 1608721875 385003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here'a a tcc bug: < 1608721912 910521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define struct() < 1608721915 839524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct < 1608721916 787512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#if 0 < 1608721919 24366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#endif < 1608721919 927929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :test; < 1608722275 315245 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'm tired finishing the 2000 year; from 40 languages only 15 are uniq by author and have the reference interpreter < 1608722471 60452 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the full list is 1300 languages that is approximately 400, even if I take 10 per year that would be...200 more entries that is... 10 hours of work < 1608723385 31739 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1608723626 185201 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mentioned "The action specified by the URL is invalid" error was because I passed the url to esolang website without the '/w/api.php' (that should be included when using mediawiki api libraries) > 1608724951 186125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07There Once was an Esolang Named Fred14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79581&oldid=73077 5* 03Baidicoot 5* (-2) 10 < 1608725760 62344 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.9 < 1608732788 833241 :harha_!~harha@ns356919.ip-91-121-144.eu QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1608732808 497908 :harha_!~harha@ns356919.ip-91-121-144.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1608734924 531045 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1608735165 331704 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1608736481 528167 :SeasonsBeatings!~Thunderbi@freenode/staff/grumble NICK :grumble < 1608737238 57164 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1608740185 608790 :magma!~magma@host-79-22-138-220.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Quit: bye < 1608744243 813378 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-146-112-4.natnow.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1608745220 197 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.9 < 1608746174 887558 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1608748575 514919 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1608749598 66800 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1608749704 898256 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1608749846 492182 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@188.163.100.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1608751862 62000 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( forced to always play the same note... flute player blows whistle on conductor ) < 1608754024 94152 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.47.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1608754157 907407 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1608761099 885870 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1608763068 890213 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.202.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1608764784 73854 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT : < 1608765133 630828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Party Wall is such a funny term. It comes up in UK planning documents a lot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_wall#England_and_Wales), but my immediate connotations are always to some sort of a BBS-era Twitter equivalent. < 1608765150 518451 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1608765893 358544 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1608765958 192884 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1608765999 512761 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1608766033 676232 :asie!~asie@asie.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1608766867 512418 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection