00:00:20 <fizzie> BBC stream is a bit late too.
00:00:29 <fizzie> More than a minute, less than two.
00:00:30 <b_jonas> happy new year UK, Portugal, Iceland, and everyone in UTC+0
00:03:45 <fizzie> They're doing a drone show instead of the traditional fireworks.
00:04:08 <fizzie> It kinda leaked out early because they had to do an aviation traffic thingie to fly 300 drones in formation.
00:05:35 <b_jonas> wait what? isn't that a Marvel movie plot?
00:06:04 <b_jonas> with the bad buy controlling the drones
00:06:29 <fizzie> Mmaybe? But they've been doing these for a while now in reality too.
00:06:40 <b_jonas> I mean how long battery time
00:06:53 <fizzie> I don't know, but this show takes just 10 minutes or so.
00:07:20 <b_jonas> 10 minutes. but with, I assume, brighter than usual led lighting.
00:07:29 <b_jonas> that shouldn't be too heavy
00:07:30 <fizzie> They're really just one of those RGB LED screens, except you can move the pixels around.
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00:09:38 <fizzie> Looks like they're doing a little bit of regular fireworks too, just not as much as usual, and with no spectators around.
00:12:43 <kmc> not sure what my city's doing tonight
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04:59:21 <zzo38> Do you have feature requests for Free Hero Mesh or any of my other software projects?
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05:06:51 <zzo38> Does analog television work with the common hobbyist level SDR sticks?
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05:36:37 <kmc> zzo38: no, I don't think so. standard NTSC has a 6 MHz bandwidth, PAL is about the same, and the RTL-SDR sticks max out around 2.4 MHz
05:36:41 <kmc> maybe you could use two
05:39:19 <kmc> the chip they use is actually a digital TV tuner chip (https://www.realtek.com/en/products/communications-network-ics/item/rtl2832u)
05:39:57 <kmc> but the raw I/Q output mode, which enables its myriad hobbyist uses as a cheap SDR receiver, doesn't support the full bandwidth of a TV signal
05:41:01 <zzo38> O, OK. Do you know if any SDR has a hardware switch to disable transmit in case you want to receive only, even if it is capable to transmit if you activate that switch?
05:41:06 <kmc> maybe due to USB limitations, I'm not sure
05:42:05 <kmc> in the original use case for the chip, the I/Q mode is used for audio broadcast reception (FM/DAB)
05:42:15 <kmc> zzo38: I don't know
05:42:27 <kmc> but many of them have separate ports for transmit and receive
05:42:34 <kmc> for example my bladeRF has
05:43:15 <kmc> so if you want to disable transmit, you could leave the TX port open or, ideally, attach an impedance-matched dummy load
05:43:34 <kmc> although, dummy loads aren't perfectly shielded and a very nearby radio might still be able to hear it
05:44:23 <kmc> I don't know if any SDR has a hardware switch to disable the TX frontend, although it seems like a good thing to have and should also be easy to do
05:46:11 <kmc> the output power of the bladeRF is low to begin with (6 dBm, or about 4 mW)
05:46:36 <kmc> in many cases you would feed that into an external amplifier, and could effectively disable transmit by disconnecting or removing power from that
05:50:34 <kmc> then again, people manage to send signals around the globe on milliwatts
05:50:55 <kmc> with the right combination of good antenna, good conditions, and very slow data rate
05:55:53 <kmc> QRSS is a fairly esoteric idea
05:56:20 <kmc> sending/receiving morse code at a speed where a single dot takes 1-5 minutes
05:59:09 <kmc> generally not done by hand/ear!
05:59:18 <kmc> would require quite a bit of patience
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06:06:13 <zzo38> I haven't heard of that before now (unless I did and I had forgot)
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08:11:18 * Taneb is thinking about making an OEIS account
08:15:23 <moony> Fixing to obtain a Propeller 1
08:15:41 <moony> it's successor resembles an esoteric CPU. but it isn't and it's amazing
08:21:31 <Taneb> The sequence I want to add to OEIS begins "15, 353, 143, 323, 899, 1763, 3599"
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08:35:53 <esowiki> [[Talk:SELENE.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79759&oldid=79757 * Quintopia * (+144) question
09:08:55 <b_jonas> it's actually 2021. can you beleive it?
09:09:19 <HackEso> 2021-01-01 09:09:18.881 +0000 UTC January 1 Friday 2020-W53-5
09:09:29 <HackEso> 2021-01-01 10:09:29.470 +0100 CET January 1 Friday 2020-W53-5
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09:33:08 <moony> b_jonas: install sdate, run `sdate -e 2020-12`, and be revealed the truth: it's dec 32nd
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09:45:52 <b_jonas> also the Wiener Philharmoniker new year concert is going to start in half an hour. I'm preparing so I can watch it uninterrupted.
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09:47:53 <HackEso> sdate? No such file or directory
09:50:39 <moony> https://github.com/df7cb/sdate
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10:09:16 <b_jonas> TV is now broadcasting ads before it
10:10:10 <b_jonas> and right now I'm trying to make sure that I've got the FM radio set up correctly as a fallback in case there's a problem with the internet TV
10:10:30 <b_jonas> but they're just playing music so it's hard to tell that it's the right channel
10:11:38 <b_jonas> conveniently the internet TV will be delayed a bit, so if it fails, I can quickly switch to the radio and, in theory, not miss anything, though of course it's not nice to have music interrupted that way
10:14:12 <esowiki> [[SELENE.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79761&oldid=79758 * Tetrapyronia * (-2)
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10:15:33 <rain1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUb7eJttOPg
10:15:34 <esowiki> [[Talk:SELENE.]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79763&oldid=79759 * Tetrapyronia * (+183)
10:15:36 <b_jonas> anyone wants to guess what the very last ad before the concert will be?
10:15:57 <b_jonas> it was a very short ad for cheese
10:16:19 <b_jonas> (may be spelled different)
10:17:05 <b_jonas> ah yes, and there's an ad within the concert, copied from the stream from Wien:
10:17:18 <b_jonas> an overlay of "presented by: Rolex"
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10:21:59 <b_jonas> that was a weird waltz that I've never heard before, but its style matches my expectations for this concert
10:22:12 <b_jonas> empty concert hall is so weird
10:22:19 <b_jonas> would never expect that for this concert
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10:22:54 <b_jonas> stage is still very crowded with musicians
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10:23:04 <b_jonas> looks like they'd need a bit larger stage
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10:23:28 <b_jonas> I mean crowded even for pre-2020 standards
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10:26:10 <b_jonas> video is showing old automated music instruments in operation, I failed to catch which museum they're from
10:26:19 <b_jonas> care to guess which castle the ballet will be in this time?
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10:28:27 <b_jonas> must be that one big museum featured on that youtube channel, there probably aren't many that have this large a collection
10:28:50 <b_jonas> and that weird four-violin automatic violin player setup in particular
10:29:27 <b_jonas> with four violins inside the rotating circular bow, each violin pressed into it when the corresponding string is supposed to play
10:29:58 <b_jonas> I don't recall what city that museum is in but I'll look it up on youtube later
10:31:09 <b_jonas> I think it was in Köln or nearby
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10:32:56 <b_jonas> dubbing announcer says museum in Wien
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10:33:23 <b_jonas> the Techniches Museum even. I've been to that museum, there's no way it has these automated instruments
10:33:28 <b_jonas> I'll have to look these up
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10:38:15 <b_jonas> hehe, nice moving moire pattern as the moving camera in the far end of the hall shows the organ with its rhythm of vertical pipes
10:38:31 <b_jonas> (might be visible only in low res)
10:39:32 <b_jonas> anyone else watching or listening live?
10:41:18 <b_jonas> I wish TVs didn't insist on having an always visible channel logo overlay. It made sense back in the analog TV days so you can easily tell which channel you tuned in, but these days with digital and internet TV it's rather redundant, they always put the channel name as meta-information anyway
10:42:12 <b_jonas> there's probably even a standard to send the logo as meta-info so the TV can display the list of channels in one of these silly icon mosic formats
10:42:35 <b_jonas> I've no idea, I almost never watch actual TV
10:42:57 <b_jonas> I don't even have a TV tuner of any sort
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10:44:25 <b_jonas> (maybe someone is watching, but not paying attention to IRC at the same time)
10:46:16 <b_jonas> look, the stage is so crowded that some musicians are sitting in these shallow cubbies right next to the wall. isn't that actually bad for accoustics?
10:46:32 <b_jonas> like, not terribad, but something they'd avoid in sucha high quality professional concert
10:48:04 <b_jonas> standing, rather then sitting, because they're playing the double bass
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11:47:09 <b_jonas> it's also eerie how, as there's no audience, there's very little applause between the tracks, only the musicians applaud
11:47:35 <b_jonas> I can't imagine how the Radetzky march will go without audience applause
11:48:33 <b_jonas> ballet is present, I didn't catch the location, but maybe they'll announce it afterwards
11:52:19 <int-e> fungot: are we all there?
11:52:20 <fungot> int-e: oh. arcus! ' til the last moments... it seems that
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12:06:37 <b_jonas> I approve of the choice of music after the recess
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12:21:50 <b_jonas> ooh! they're playing audience applaud sounds right now, the dub announcer says they're from people who submitted and sent the applause in advance
12:22:02 <b_jonas> and showing photos of those viewers who sent them in
12:22:19 <b_jonas> (also musicians' approval obviously)
12:25:24 <b_jonas> conductor is talking in English
12:26:36 <b_jonas> pity they're dubbing it over
12:26:56 <b_jonas> (I'm watching in Hungarian television; will try to get the original ORF stream later)
12:27:18 <b_jonas> he's giving a rather long speech
12:28:04 <b_jonas> the dubbing is bad btw, the announcer isn't a reporter but not an interpreter and so translating it bad
12:40:11 <b_jonas> what is the red pin badge on the conductor's lapel?
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12:43:40 <b_jonas> the concert was good, high quality as usual, I enjoyed it,
12:43:56 <b_jonas> but the ending was a downer because they had to play the Radetzky marsh without audience applause
12:55:38 <b_jonas> internet answers that the location of the ballet was https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palais_Liechtenstein_(F%C3%BCrstengasse)
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19:11:24 <arseniiv> <fizzie> They've got a conventional orchestra playing an arrangement of Darude's Sandstorm to celebrate. => wow neat!
19:12:52 <arseniiv> HNY to everyone who wants late congratulations too!
19:13:40 <arseniiv> let us all be happier, smarter, nicer and braver this year
19:13:59 <rain1> you're asking a lot but ill try
19:14:16 <arseniiv> let all the problems be less obstinate and go away easier
19:17:58 <arseniiv> I want to get a constant income at last and somehow have more geographically near acquaintances who are interested or knowledgeable in the same as me, as I believe that’s the only effective way to have a job you like without hassle and luck
19:19:51 <arseniiv> as of now, I know nice and beautiful people but they are all this and that far away. That’s not a problem in itself but that’s a huge dent in a socialization I ended up with and I don’t particularly know yet how to fix it
19:21:20 <arseniiv> (of course I have relatives and their friends but they are all not mathematical or CS-y or techy almost at all. That’s a big problem as they lean on me for math- or computer-related things and I need to be better at them myself!)
19:21:43 <arseniiv> hopefully a condition like this is uncommon amongst people!
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19:38:09 <arseniiv> I think I’m genuniely relieved when I know someone is not having this or that issue I have, that’s a weird kind of empathy if it is
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