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01:41:31 <b_jonas> fizzie: how do you connect it?
01:41:37 <b_jonas> like what hardware enables that?
01:43:41 <fizzie> A micro-USB to USB type A "OTG" adapter + a USB Ethernet device.
01:45:03 <fizzie> I couldn't find any wired Ethernet settings anywhere (it's a Motorola device running Android 6.0), but it Just Worked anyway. There was even an icon I might not have seen before in the network connectivity area to indicate a wired Ethernet connection.
01:47:02 <fizzie> Other than the Ethernet device, I think the only USB peripherals I've used with a phone have been storage devices, a keyboard, and if I remember correctly a mouse once just to see what'd happen. (I think I got a pointer?)
01:47:50 <int-e> "on the go"... what a useless phrase
01:48:12 <int-e> what information is that conveying that justifies giving it a three letter acronym?
01:48:22 <int-e> what are the alternatives to "OTG" adapters?
01:50:02 <int-e> Oh it's a standard... but still a stupid name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
01:55:47 <shachaf> int-e: Back to it again. The only star left on the map I see is at 5,10, which I assume you get to from the south.
01:56:56 <int-e> shachaf: How many stars do you have?
01:57:25 <int-e> Then go looking for hidden areas.
01:57:38 <fizzie> Yes, it's a specification, it has something to do with the way the phone switches from being a host and a peripheral.
01:58:08 <fizzie> I think the adapters are somewhat commonly called "OTG" adapters, though I'm not sure if they actually do anything specific.
01:58:28 <zzo38> I don't really like USB so much, though.
01:59:10 <int-e> shachaf: I can give you coordinates if you like
01:59:33 <shachaf> I think there's a hidden area to the east of 8,9, where I already got the star.
01:59:38 <kmc> yes, android will give you a mouse pointer if you connect a mouse by USB or Bluetooth
01:59:53 <int-e> shachaf: right, that's one of them
02:00:37 <shachaf> Other than that the map says you can go south in the near-ending room with the locked door to the north.
02:01:21 <int-e> shachaf: Yeah ignore those... you need to find 15 stars first
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02:01:50 <shachaf> OK. So there's that and there's the place marked as "extremely difficult".
02:02:03 <shachaf> I assume each of them has one star.
02:02:54 <int-e> I thought the "extemely difficult" was the area starting at 4,13?
02:02:59 <fizzie> I've got one of those Logitech wireless mice (gave up after a long fight) with three "channels", and I'm only using two of them (via the proprietary receivers). Maybe I should pair the third one with a phone just in case I'm at my desk and holding the phone, and there's a task where a mouse would be better than a finger.
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02:04:06 <int-e> shachaf: well those are both in the same L-shaped area
02:04:15 <kmc> I have done phone-as-USB-host with input devices (keyboard and mouse), storage (USB stick, SD reader) and a second phone (this is part of the migration process for the Pixel 3a, my current phone)
02:04:19 <int-e> and you're done there if you've found the goat
02:04:30 <int-e> which I assume you have
02:04:41 <kmc> it actually ships with a USB-C-plug to USB-A-socket adapter so you can plug your old phone into the new one
02:05:40 <kmc> another use case which I haven't tried yet, but I intend to try and is known to work, is plugging a USB microscope into the phone
02:05:41 <int-e> I knew phones (tablets too) have this dual role capability; I just never encountered the name of that standard, somehow.
02:06:46 <shachaf> But I just figured out what the trick must be.
02:08:03 <shachaf> To the first room, I mean.
02:08:54 <int-e> "Oh" was for not having the goat. Which means you have a visible non-wall on the map
02:09:21 <int-e> Which is unlike my https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/kitty.png where the map didn't help my progress at all.
02:10:01 <shachaf> I hope it's more of a non-visible non-wall.
02:11:13 <fizzie> Oh, right, I didn't think of the migration, I've of course done that too.
02:12:39 <int-e> shachaf: Oh well, heading out for a walk... you can check https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/kitty2.png to see which areas you're missing (so that screenshot is a bit of a spoiler).
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03:17:30 <int-e> fungot: why do people need sleep?
03:17:30 <fungot> int-e: b/ c the ppl giving them actually knew science which is an odd beast. it wants to
03:18:34 <fizzie> Science: it's an odd beast.
03:47:22 <b_jonas> "<fizzie> I couldn't find any wired Ethernet settings anywhere" => must be Android
03:50:00 <b_jonas> "<int-e> I knew phones (tablets too) have this dual role capability" => that's because typing without a keyboard sucks, so they have to allow plugging in a keyboard.
03:53:11 <shachaf> I think they often use wireless keyboards instead.
03:53:46 <shachaf> My guess would be that most people who use tablets with keyboards use either a special tablet-specific connection or Bluetooth.
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04:00:01 <fizzie> I used to have this great little Microsoft Bluetooth "travel" keyboard, but I forgot the (just regular non-rechargeable AAA) batteries in it, and they leaked so badly it was just a lost cause. :/
04:00:47 <fizzie> The "Wedge Mobile Keyboard".
04:03:12 <kmc> yeah I have a bad habit of forgetting about batteries
04:03:24 <kmc> leading primary cells to leak, or rechargables to run down to the point where they're permanently damaged
04:03:31 <kmc> it's kind of an ongoing source of guilt in my life
04:04:02 <kmc> I even have a recurring calendar reminder to "check on all the batteries" but of course it's pretty broad in scope and i don't do it consistently, although there are a few things I rely on for emergency preparedness that I do check at least
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05:08:49 <zzo38> The index for the Fifth Edition rules of Magic: the Gathering contains a loop.
05:20:50 <kmc> zzo38: on purpose?
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10:00:34 <kspalaiologos> the other logger _still_ seems to be connected, even though i even restarted my server and cleared crontab
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10:47:07 <kspalaiologos> ok, sorry for the spam but i think the problem is solved now
10:47:36 <kspalaiologos> my hosting provider did a thing and i'm now waiting for the support response, in the meantime i moved all of my stuff to a box my friend gave me temporarily
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12:27:12 <nakilon> the last one does not show up for me: https://i.imgur.com/5mM6zAX.png
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14:24:24 <fizzie> Yeah, the wiki-IRC bridge rather arbitrarily filters non-printable-ASCII bytes.
14:24:49 <fizzie> I have the last one, but not the first one. That's emoji for you, I guess.
14:25:32 <fizzie> (The last one is U+1FAC2 PEOPLE HUGGING.)
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14:30:32 <nakilon> Windows has a problem with the same one: https://imgur.com/nFWCQO8
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14:32:00 <fizzie> It's moderately new (from Unicode 13.0).
14:33:47 <fizzie> Debian, though that really means it's more to do with fonts/browsers in this case rather than the OS. I was looking at it in Chrome; in Firefox I've got all of them.
14:35:00 <fizzie> Not sure how Chrome manages to not render U+1F97A FACE WITH PLEADING EYES (the first one).
14:35:17 <fizzie> But also not interested enough to start figuring that out.
14:35:57 <nakilon> they are absolutely the same in Terminal for me: https://i.imgur.com/BlwwclW.png
14:38:24 <nakilon> only the broken one is different in other browsers: FF: https://i.imgur.com/fF4Lhpk.png Safari: https://i.imgur.com/zQU3LTj.png
14:40:03 <nakilon> I suppose one of your browsers relies on OS and another one somehow supplies own Unicode characters; or both rely on OS but Chrome is somehow broken
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14:45:59 <fizzie> If I had to guess, I'd say Firefox has bundled in some amount of its own emoji support.
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22:10:09 <b_jonas> I wish the bot replaced non-ascii character with a question mark or dot instead of straight up stripping them
22:10:27 <b_jonas> or replace them with something else, like a bang or tilde
22:20:49 <fizzie> Or U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER, maybe. It's in the name.
22:20:54 <fizzie> But yeah, it probably should.
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