> 1612742561 646826 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Sethpeace 5* 10New user account > 1612742678 916687 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80619&oldid=80573 5* 03Sethpeace 5* (+156) 10Introduced myself. < 1612742683 352178 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1612742781 957580 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07APLBAONWSJAS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80620&oldid=71458 5* 03Sethpeace 5* (+31) 10Clarified limitations of python interpreter < 1612742809 20177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612742936 358718 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1612743014 120203 :LKoen!~LKoen@252.248.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612743504 115466 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612743793 98018 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1612744036 343447 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.2.1.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1612744637 83411 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1612744665 750369 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1612745058 759215 :ubq323!~ubq323@host86-154-198-83.range86-154.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.3 > 1612745061 771575 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NyaScript14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80621&oldid=80614 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-2) 10/* Classes */ Typoze < 1612746368 345387 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612746413 994545 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612746429 374899 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612746584 131906 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612746603 358834 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612746660 959252 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612746673 379009 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612746921 20724 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1612746925 354437 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1612746927 828641 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1612748150 364000 :LKoen!~LKoen@252.248.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. 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That is the main reason why the often look so ackward. \ toe//The TOE is the Toe of Everything, from which our universe sprang. \ `revert//`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See . It is a builtin command so canno < 1612765230 988713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n < 1612765232 321069 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:t be called from other commands. \ lba//This channel is having a Little Big Adventure(tm) with Linear Bounded Automata in devices using Logical Block Addressing. < 1612766102 115340 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612766401 947448 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1612766788 957354 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1612766796 849006 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1612767789 363573 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1612769403 341207 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612772051 876109 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612774934 204582 :naivesheep!~naiveshee@dhcp-108-168-36-20.cable.user.start.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612774978 209689 :naivesheep!~naiveshee@dhcp-108-168-36-20.cable.user.start.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1612775174 869107 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1612775195 824229 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1612775404 902115 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1612775491 823803 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1612776302 235870 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07AF14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80622&oldid=80354 5* 03ThisIsTheFoxe 5* (+54) 10added implementation to box < 1612776752 419751 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1612776933 168454 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Client Quit < 1612776974 398092 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1612777378 799017 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612777487 59891 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612777530 450654 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1612777556 190626 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612778548 789089 :TheLie!~TheLie@business-24-134-17-157.pool2.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1612779397 365501 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.2.1.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1612779473 361216 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612780148 379412 :LKoen!~LKoen@252.248.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612780284 458907 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1612780368 380226 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1612780424 119947 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1612780424 314344 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1612781117 966397 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1612781368 85566 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612781445 957394 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612782310 433842 :privateger!~privatege@94.31.82.151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1612782321 901136 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612782396 380615 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1612783359 375059 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612783359 756953 :privateger!~privatege@94.31.82.151 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612783542 887642 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1612783815 153899 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1612784045 380444 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612784109 114445 :Arcorann__!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612784256 372525 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1612784452 20993 :Arcorann__!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1612784491 924059 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1612784519 838662 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1612785466 893987 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612785537 811441 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1612785561 331612 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Client Quit < 1612787746 635563 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 5 < 1612787748 989434 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`5 is equivalent to repeating `` 5 times, then splitting the output into irc-sized pieces. defaults to "quote". See `1, `4 and `spam. Confusingly _not_ the obvious generalization of `2. < 1612787766 888107 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? w < 1612787770 301372 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A w is everything a cow isn't. < 1612787778 305552 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? n < 1612787779 760823 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`n is an abbreviation for `spam. < 1612787794 427918 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` spam < 1612787795 376889 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied < 1612787801 861236 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spam < 1612787803 430052 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/ < 1612787820 407813 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rasel < 1612787822 700146 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :rasel? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1612788563 893239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, the error message for `-space-anything is pretty confusing, since it tries to execute the empty string as a command. Funny, never noticed that before. < 1612788567 6313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :` whatever < 1612788567 980535 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied < 1612788585 741863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nosuchfile < 1612788586 703798 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :nosuchfile? No such file or directory > 1612788878 828020 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IDK14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80623&oldid=80597 5* 03GrapeApple 5* (+234) 10/* Language */ < 1612788970 72319 :TheLie!~TheLie@business-24-134-17-157.pool2.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612789548 812692 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1612789560 239719 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Client Quit < 1612790784 717694 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1612790831 184845 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kzdydawczjlbbdbz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612790838 357099 :dnm!sid401311@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iidrtdpppyijtzxv QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612790840 542946 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eqglmtzxkjcesfxa QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612790999 340715 :dnm!sid401311@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qfqrbyavdfoqnreb JOIN :#esoteric < 1612791003 378210 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1612791103 690540 :glowcoil!sid3405@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yeuuyflfecrkbktw JOIN :#esoteric < 1612791187 396686 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wmvkjarerowtvkxy JOIN :#esoteric < 1612794026 299974 :LKoen!~LKoen@252.248.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1612794354 916071 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1612794941 697475 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612795184 857849 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612795202 898614 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1612796169 300384 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1225 < 1612796170 608092 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1225.html: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1612796188 335386 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :NB. https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html didn't seem to have updated, but the strip is there < 1612796698 113822 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1612797595 944914 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Asodt 5* 10New user account < 1612798238 460681 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" […] neither is obviously equivalent to ((int65_t)x + (int65_t)y) / 2" I think you want uint65_t > 1612798323 595302 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Short c1rcuit 5* 10New user account < 1612798359 226995 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" (I have a suspicion that subtraction from zero may be more efficient, though, although the answer isn't quite the same due how floating point works)" => that's because, weirdly, the additive unit of floating point numbers is minus zero, not zero. > 1612798545 582241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80624&oldid=80619 5* 03Short c1rcuit 5* (+201) 10/* Introductions */ < 1612798750 712431 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺ < 1612799048 376915 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" yep, 0.1 isn't an exact integer multiplier of *any* power of 2" => which is why all sorts of programming lists keep getting emails like "your interpreter is buggy, it says that 0.1 + 0.2 != 0.3", and, as I learned the hard way, if you find an actual bug that comes from the programmer being careless with floating point arithmetic, you have to alter your bug report so it clearly isn't one of < 1612799054 845745 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those emails, or else it will be ignored < 1612799575 510220 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is this JSFuck improvements thing documented anywhere? and how is the |> operator relevant? even if the > operator helps, isn't | basically a wasted character other than that? < 1612799784 525875 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that pipeline operator thing sounds like one of those features that makes beginner coders write unreadable code, and spend an inordinate amount of time posting questions about "how do I do with the pipeline operator" when in fact they shouldn't be using the pipeline operator at all < 1612799797 628499 :LKoen!~LKoen@252.248.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612800744 837136 :frforfarfur!52cfef45@muedsl-82-207-239-069.citykom.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1612801413 117935 :frforfarfur!52cfef45@muedsl-82-207-239-069.citykom.de QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1612801782 717321 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New OOTS also didn't show up in RSS < 1612801909 908626 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1612802221 388790 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1612802275 790840 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1612802295 173004 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's only one explanation for this: time travel < 1612802479 612019 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: my guess is that there's insufficient automation and they forgot some manual step in uploading the strip. something like that happened to DMM recently. < 1612802569 139315 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1612802756 515204 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I think my explanation is more interesting < 1612803937 300882 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1612805317 183192 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... another AME mechanic < 1612806329 400144 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should write "interaction" instead of "mechanic" < 1612807392 636876 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's AME? is that the puzzle game with the cats and chairs and islands? < 1612807770 159601 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. well mostly trees and islands and water and rafts < 1612807795 284031 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are exhibits though... cats and chairs may feature in those < 1612807802 587281 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Monster's Expedition < 1612807893 800647 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/ame-new.jpg ... original situation to the left; result of knocking over the tree to the right < 1612807905 387399 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess the last result :) < 1612807931 720075 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or glance at https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/ame-news.jpg) < 1612808197 984122 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm beginning to think that there may be 600 islands, exactly < 1612808274 517706 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by the game's count, so some connected landmasses count as several islands) < 1612808450 251695 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: actually your list seems like a mix of AME (islands), {5,n}-step Steve (cats) and Hiding Spot (chairs). < 1612809775 409605 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612810342 118805 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612810457 757833 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so while my first attempt to automate the tagging with the IRC messages training set size of 10 had only ~40% accuracy I've tried 4 different NLP tools and 8 combinated approaches to reach the accuracy of 60% and 80% with the training set size of 50 < 1612810545 138878 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I guess I made an automated search for a "bad entries of the training set" that I might need to correct/improve to improve the quality https://dpaste.org/KisW/slim > 1612810561 824733 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh400/Conjectures14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=80625 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+3091) 10Conjectures < 1612810603 103395 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1612810686 977131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh40014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80626&oldid=80197 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+65) 10Conjectures < 1612810762 92234 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I don't like is that bash piping does not break the chain if some piece didn't exit with 0 status code < 1612810783 591111 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick googling didn't provide any simple solution < 1612810799 158365 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :set -euf -o pipefail < 1612811141 470312 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I forgot about it, thanks < 1612811732 131910 :TheLie!~TheLie@business-24-134-17-157.pool2.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1612812368 205476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 519 < 1612812370 742056 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist 519: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy Cale < 1612812413 244726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612812566 493463 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612812578 770584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esoteric < 1612812610 212727 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1612812758 454022 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612812928 831869 :jr!63c72bd0@d99-199-43-208.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612813037 609898 :jr!63c72bd0@d99-199-43-208.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1612813062 831750 :vndr!63c72bd0@d99-199-43-208.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612813091 752376 :vndr!63c72bd0@d99-199-43-208.bchsia.telus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://cstheory.stackexchange.com/questions/48349/is-this-variant-of-bitwise-cyclic-tag-turing-complete < 1612813161 490684 :vndr!63c72bd0@d99-199-43-208.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1612813657 725962 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny how SO thought "hm, we wanted to have a place for programmers, not coders" and made Programmers.SE < 1612813685 20891 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they thought "damn, it's still coders, we need another one" and made CSTheory.SE < 1612814048 460958 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612814063 370712 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612814892 597958 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between a coder and a programmer? < 1612814993 968528 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coders code, programmers program > 1612814999 200248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BSS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80627&oldid=80609 5* 03CatLooks 5* (+22) 10 < 1612815086 439904 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither one is CS theory < 1612815088 747923 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is closer to math < 1612815105 253916 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :really it is math < 1612815121 56799 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the math of algorithms and stuff.. < 1612815131 760674 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to like < 1612815136 561316 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the science of how computers work < 1612815145 8538 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :electricity and RAM and whatever < 1612815165 814773 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." - Edsger Dijkstra < 1612815191 860330 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "informatics" is a better name < 1612815206 293090 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : - abelson < 1612815236 468340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1612815260 904217 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :write "computer science", then cross out "computer", then cross out "science" > 1612815262 12192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BSS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80628&oldid=80627 5* 03CatLooks 5* (+35) 10 < 1612815280 927517 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure the most popular sort of computers use electricity but you can also build computers out of pneumatic tubes, or strands of DNA or whatever, and apply the same concepts from "computer science" < 1612815296 664776 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore the stuff specific to electricity is better seen as part of electrical engineering < 1612815303 287593 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: informatics is exactly what it's called in german < 1612815306 463776 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1612815334 396078 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am still confused to how people don't know what informatics is but are perfectly fine with bioinformatics < 1612815344 118508 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :biocomputerscience < 1612815535 645073 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :semiconductor digital logic is really a remarkably strong abstraction < 1612815536 469236 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNA data processing < 1612815557 36670 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very rare that programmers at even the lowest level of systems programming need to care about the electrical characteristics of transistors on the chips they're using < 1612816144 850936 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: kind of reminded of this... https://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/ 'Five individual logic cells were functionally disconnected from the rest⁠— with no pathways that would allow them to influence the output⁠— yet when the researcher disabled any one of them the chip lost its ability to discriminate the tones.' < 1612816263 93289 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:11:45 really it is math < 1612816279 369232 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they already have three different Math SE ) < 1612816287 300779 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for nearly the same reason < 1612816399 117046 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:12:25 electricity and RAM and whatever < 1612816406 146708 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's now what computer science is about < 1612816479 434390 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: interesting < 1612816480 276762 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( rowhammer ) < 1612816500 332973 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:15:34 i am still confused to how people don't know what informatics is but are perfectly fine with bioinformatics < 1612816520 345159 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are too busy growing bacterias in Petri dishes < 1612816541 909902 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile i'm growing fungi in Petri dishes < 1612816545 841595 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and some bacteria by accident < 1612816546 410985 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is the security research corner of computer science that cares a great deal about breaks in the abstraction. < 1612816554 876951 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big DNA data < 1612816560 248129 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah, that is something i've always found interesting about security as a field < 1612816581 445314 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :successful attacks often involve cleverness at multiple layers of abstraction, breaking the tidy assumptions which separate them < 1612816629 116099 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> yet when the researcher disabled any one of them the chip lost its ability to discriminate the tones < 1612816630 868828 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:42: error: :1:42: error: parse error on input ‘of’ < 1612816655 705613 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this means exploits are often /funny/ too < 1612816659 926854 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember how in my C++Builder code there was a "int i;" that wasn't used but if I delete it the program crashed < 1612816679 568500 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :because cleverly subverting expectations is core to much of humor > 1612816687 970860 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80629&oldid=80591 5* 03Short c1rcuit 5* (+13) 10Added Defunc to the language list < 1612816710 411279 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: lol < 1612816752 608636 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the abstraction boundary of C or C++ has big gaping holes labeled "undefined behavior" and if you stray into those areas then truly spooky action at a distance is not just possible but expected < 1612816798 116641 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like for some reason compiler were just too buggy 15 years ago < 1612816814 719218 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :a beginner C programmer curses the segfault; an expert thanks the gods for a segfault because it is the best and easiest to debug consequence of UB < 1612816815 888667 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://www.minitool.com/news/hdd-use-as-rudimentary-microphone.html comes to mind as a surprising (yet understandable) sidechannel < 1612816840 985768 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, security research is full of these kind of things < 1612817028 611961 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are tools to receive AM radio signal on Macbook somehow < 1612817037 526748 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it somehow interferes with CPU < 1612817086 241418 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the five 'disconnected' logic cells in that FPGA experiment were really interacting with the active logic or if they were necessary just to influence the place-and-route algorithm into a configuration that produces the right timings < 1612817116 804999 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause the way it describes the rest of the circuit (asynchronous, lots of oscillating feedback) would make it very timing dependent < 1612817167 479480 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :as indeed it would have to be to fulfill its purpose as a frequency discriminator < 1612817175 636485 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :щh no < 1612817185 898230 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even receiver but AM transmitter! https://github.com/fulldecent/system-bus-radio < 1612817198 188711 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :to really understand the meaning of the experiment you would have to dig into the structure of that particular FPGA < 1612817203 721178 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately I don't have an AM receiver to test it < 1612817241 305622 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1612817245 562431 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like an update of http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/ < 1612817331 49374 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've definitely picked up sounds coming out of my laptop's circuitry on my UHF ham radio < 1612817348 312374 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when i transmit on that radio it would turn on the motion-sensitive floodlights on the back deck at my old apartment < 1612817448 895402 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@188.163.100.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1612817703 147714 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can connect a wire to a Raspberry Pi GPIO pin and send shortwave radio transmissions around the world https://github.com/JamesP6000/WsprryPi < 1612817815 266474 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though you should include a low-pass filter to avoid radiating harmonics) < 1612817992 223549 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty neat how simple / cheap / small / low-power you can make a shortwave radio transciever and have global communications without any sort of infrastructure in the middle < 1612818099 787710 :TheLie!~TheLie@business-24-134-17-157.pool2.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, That's the ham radio version of home automation i suppose < 1612818193 884630 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1612818357 30785 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1612818374 821391 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1612818604 818468 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612819044 51267 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1612819351 908869 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612819750 721332 :TheLie!~TheLie@business-24-134-17-157.pool2.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1612821555 476529 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Defunc14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=80630 5* 03Short c1rcuit 5* (+3286) 10Added Defunc > 1612821635 442144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Defunc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80631&oldid=80630 5* 03Short c1rcuit 5* (-24) 10Replaced factorial program with a more efficient one > 1612821859 391333 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80632&oldid=80462 5* 03Short c1rcuit 5* (+122) 10Added Defunc to the list > 1612822402 456438 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brain:D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80633&oldid=79988 5* 03Sethpeace 5* (+11) 10Fixed code formatting < 1612822419 995658 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 JOIN :#esoteric > 1612822420 475714 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brain:D14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80634&oldid=80633 5* 03Sethpeace 5* (+1) 10grammar < 1612822439 390324 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612822632 224788 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wait, #esoteric was playing *three* puzzle games, not just two? < 1612822639 107954 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-131.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in recently] < 1612822712 713201 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: more. somebody touched Baba is You, I think < 1612822760 236230 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I may have talked about Pipe Push < 1612822800 381317 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I think nobody else played/plays it so I didn't say much about it beyond some initial discoveries. < 1612822813 782334 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :зlay Zachtronix games < 1612822817 508107 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*play < 1612822860 513973 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, I played exapunks recently too < 1612822865 190479 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stupid old macOS bug that when you switch from the app with different active keyboard layout it does not switch in time when you start typing) < 1612822872 661804 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :talked about it to fizzie, mostly < 1612822915 20150 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are having weekly contests in Opus Magnum on reddit < 1612822917 191699 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: well, the point is... we really have a lot of those games :P < 1612822958 641202 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally I liked the TIS-100 and Infinifactory the most < 1612822980 165964 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but infinifactory didn't know when to stop < 1612823032 451250 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither Opus Magnum and Spacechem did < 1612823103 128011 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least for me, the "Atropos station" levels were a burden, and the "The homeward fleet" products were all way too big to even attempt planning out. < 1612823144 313405 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you mean the number of levels? I don't remember where I stopped < 1612823149 781365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I played Spacechem at least very close to all the way through. < 1612823154 613048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opus Magnum I haven't played. < 1612823181 59060 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the number of the levels, it's the size/complexity of the solution < 1612823207 150499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I definitely did that laser thing at least. < 1612823225 328255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Very terribly, but still.) < 1612823255 770786 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :add in Steam? ..D < 1612823449 475067 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, I uninstalled Infinifactory a few weeks ago. Good choice. < 1612823514 160744 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it was the one Zachtronics game that had a story < 1612823519 804610 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't get me wrong though... except for the last 2 sets the levels were mostly fun. < 1612823542 509929 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not boring text dialogs like in Opus Magnum but you was playing it in first person like in a sci-fi movie < 1612823550 991965 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just prefer games that end before they become a chore. < 1612823566 90972 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :listening to messages left by other sotry characters < 1612823571 546033 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the text in opus agnum < 1612823581 640420 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a hard balance to strike because the point where things become a chore is very subjective. < 1612823613 199608 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :games should be infinite < 1612823619 340933 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or infinitely replayable < 1612823709 578593 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would I play Shenzhen I/O when I could play KiCad < 1612823757 868089 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaderboard I guess < 1612823758 621045 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some games can be infinite or infinitely replayable; other kinds it doesn't work so well. < 1612823768 482894 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shenzhen was too complex though < 1612823798 409788 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, also, make up your own game, too. < 1612823820 47091 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I actually found something from Infinifactory... https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/2018-09-19-04-38-28.gif < 1612823840 266359 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have also done, and am also in the process of making a game engine too. But, you could also do, if you want to do.) < 1612823852 387031 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these games have Steam Workshop where people are making puzzles for each other -- I think Portal chambers were fun < 1612823973 906352 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was by far the weirdest assembly gadget I made... as I recall it, it only worked at one particular speed) < 1612823984 58046 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started making own not necessary "game" but "visualisation" engine in ruby2d but it's segfaulting, lol < 1612824015 115093 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Dragonruby that people use to create games for Itch.io -- it's mruby that is too limited as for me, no gems, etc. < 1612824028 240982 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no even normal file and network interfaces < 1612824126 231908 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other systems to try to write the game on too, including ZZT, NES/Famicom, Glulx, or just using C codes with SDL or curses < 1612824164 87878 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby2d (and probably Dragonruby too) is built on top of SDL < 1612824254 770476 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkMqUPJU4Bc < 1612824347 727883 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, you can program in DOS) > 1612824364 407349 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Erinius/Ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80635&oldid=80592 5* 03Erinius 5* (+26) 10 < 1612824739 438398 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you used any of the other stuff that I have mentioned? < 1612824808 772067 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used curses for a tcpdump wrapper back in 2013 < 1612825216 654082 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1612825475 109813 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wmvkjarerowtvkxy QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1612825498 463182 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xoewnnvopkzdtsge JOIN :#esoteric < 1612825530 378862 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1612825998 731256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Story-wise, the bit I liked about EXAPUNKS is that the chatroom simulation felt very realistic, like it was just real IRC logs. < 1612826085 153790 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exapunk also managed the chore level nicely for me... in particular, the main story ended and it was clear that the larger tasks that followed were bonus tasks < 1612826166 420172 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I alson liked the exapunk chat logs. and the "zines" too. < 1612826183 832041 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is a nobus task < 1612826237 340022 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh and let's not forget the easter eggs (switching off the lights in the pizza parlour...) < 1612826301 395568 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, bedtime I suppose < 1612826439 390520 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1612826948 348375 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1612827213 341357 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1612827568 834382 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1612827592 903888 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1612827664 392307 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1612827822 770607 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers from brazil < 1612827892 652800 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone there < 1612827911 776797 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1612827983 112315 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon, what are you doing here on #esoteric? < 1612828027 922655 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1612828043 831930 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1612828161 857392 :someoneelse!b1b3fdef@177-179-253-239.user.veloxzone.com.br QUIT :Client Quit