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06:51:38 <kritixilithos> https://github.com/polux/lambda-diagrams lambda calculus animations using tromp's graphical notation
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07:45:08 <b_jonas> aww, that doesn't have any multicolored alligators
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08:38:33 <zzo38> I invented a solitaire card game called "solter solitaire". Ten ranks, four cards of each rank; suits are irrelevant. Deal ten to each of four tableaus. Tableau can build up or down (no wrapping), one card at a time; empty slots may not be filled. The single foundation builds up, starting with any card, wrapping. The single free pile holds up to four cards (but no rank restrictions); only the top card may be played, and only to the foun
08:40:02 <Taneb> Can I build a tableau like 4 -> 5 -> 4?
08:41:36 <shachaf> Did you step any more Steves?
08:41:42 <Taneb> Not lately I'm afraid
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13:18:41 <esowiki> [[Zahlen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80978&oldid=80971 * Orby * (-268)
13:19:49 <esowiki> [[Zahlen]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80979&oldid=80978 * Orby * (-4) /* Miscellaneous operators */
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13:37:14 <Guest85410> Hi I have a file containing lots of lines looking like this, #][$^{!))}!!@%@$(^^[*%%&^]!#$}&*[#]{^!(!]}$((__}$$_{#@_[#[^{!+}#*$*}]]{(^))@^(#). The file is called GEMS, could this be an esolang or something like that?
13:38:54 <esowiki> [[Zahlen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80980&oldid=80979 * Orby * (+37) /* Call */
13:41:29 <esowiki> [[Zahlen]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80981&oldid=80980 * Orby * (-41) /* Miscellaneous operators */ Adding 16-bit immediate push and removing nop
13:44:13 <esowiki> [[Zahlen]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80982&oldid=80981 * Orby * (+20) /* Introduction */ Updating reserved codes
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13:45:35 <Guest85410> Hi I have a file containing lots of lines looking like this, #][$^{!))}!!@%@$(^^[*%%&^]!#$}&*[#]{^!(!]}$((__}$$_{#@_[#[^{!+}#*$*}]]{(^))@^(#). The file is called GEMS, could this be an esolang or something like that?
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14:00:12 <esowiki> [[Zahlen]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80983&oldid=80982 * Orby * (+47) Rewording introduction. Zahlen has become a processor specification.
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14:03:12 <Programm> Ha, I have this "code" could it be an esolang?
14:03:16 <Programm> #][$^{!))}!!@%@$(^^[*%%&^]!#$}&*[#]{^!(!]}$((__}$$_{#@_[#[^{!+}#*$*}]]{(^))@^(#)
14:03:17 <Programm> &%@^(}@@#@%!(+{@&*$!]%@)_%_%!))${}_@[@_*!+&#{^@%]+({%*+&}__!)^@%{()}(]+(@^%)^%{_
14:03:17 <Programm> &{}+^[(*(+&)+&[#@$[*^)*{!$#[]@(&*&*^@{^]&&)#$&@%&&[#(+&!&_)^]*@]&{+&&%(})@%_*{]}
14:03:18 <Programm> %*[[@__]}****&+)_)+(_*#(*!!)[^](*#]({#^*$_][%]}&)#@)#&^!+#^(^_&$%#%#^}])@%]{(&*!
14:03:18 <Programm> @$%&#{!)_%}@%@!!#[^#}}}+_$]&(^*{*^&+]($]+)@{^%{){%$}##!&^(^}_[%@+]_)#}!}(&#%+({$
14:03:19 <Programm> !]*]{!%!*%)#${#%!_@!+[$@[{{{{#^#&+#]!_@_*^${$@{(!])[_)%%+%[(%&^^}(})@]^+)_)#_)+[
14:03:19 <Programm> $%}$@*^_{%#^[}!_{@]!^!$]}{!)[%)}*!&]%*!(!$(!_%+}!^&}(!_#!$&]$(!%*}#@(@]%(&]$[&+!
14:03:20 <Programm> *_()&_^$}%){#+)&(@{]}[%){%(!%+!^{{&%)]**!{*&#!#_@[}%+[]}*)&&[*+([_{@)*&_%))**#@&
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14:12:02 <fizzie> I don't think it's an unreasonable question, the channel collectively has seen a lot of languages.
14:12:42 <fizzie> Hmm, I wonder how good a language detector you could train just by taking the wiki as input. Probably not very good; there isn't that much code in the examples.
14:13:52 <int-e> looks more like random data though... some weird hexadecimal encoding with !#$%&()*+@[]^_{} as digits
14:14:11 <fizzie> Granted, more context on the file (where did it came from and so on) is probably a better way of trying to figure out what's up with that.
14:14:33 <fizzie> A jokested would say "looks like Perl to me".
14:15:29 <int-e> what I mean though is that these frequencies are far too evenn: [(30,'+'),(30,'['),(31,'$'),(37,'}'),(38,'_'),(39,']'),(41,'#'),(41,'('),(41,'^'),(42,'*'),(42,'@'),(42,'{'),(44,')'),(46,'&'),(47,'!'),(49,'%')]
14:16:01 <fizzie> Yeah. And exactly 16 symbols, too.
14:16:41 <HackEso> olist https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1227.html: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
14:17:41 <esowiki> [[User:Orby/Zahlen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80985&oldid=80973 * Orby * (+442)
14:18:13 <esowiki> [[User:Orby/Zahlen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80986&oldid=80985 * Orby * (-248) /* TODO */
14:20:36 <wib_jonas> fizzie: perl is what I thought of at first, because perl folks sometimes write obfuscated programs with a restricted inventory of characters, often punctuation only or alphabetic and space only (I tried the latter a few times), and the character inventory looks suitable, but on more detailed examination, this doesn't look like it's from such a
14:20:37 <wib_jonas> code, unless it's mostly or only the data portion without the decoder for it
14:22:21 <fizzie> JS people do that too.
14:22:32 <fizzie> But mismatched (){}[] generally rules that sort of thing out.
14:22:52 <wib_jonas> mismatched isn't really a problem, because this is probably just part of a longer thing
14:23:08 <wib_jonas> oh, you mean a mismatched mix like ([)] ?
14:23:21 <fizzie> Yeah, I don't think you can have (!] as a subsequence.
14:23:46 <fizzie> "subsequence" wasn't the right word there, I think, but anyway, that's what I meant.
14:24:40 <fizzie> A subsequence is that thing where the elements you pick don't have to be consecutive. But I didn't want to say "substring" either, because that sounds it's about characters rather than tokens.
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14:26:14 <int-e> fizzie: and "contiguous subsequence" is a mouthful
14:26:40 * int-e usually goes for "substring" while cringing slightly
14:30:05 <wib_jonas> you can also call it a take of a drop, it's easier to say than contiguious subsequence
14:30:15 <int-e> it could be an equen, or maybe a trin ;)
14:30:17 <fizzie> Heh, is a "bugfix" also one kind of an affix?
14:30:59 <fizzie> Maybe that's what it's called when you use a prefix as a postfix or something.
14:31:41 <fizzie> "That's totally crediblein! Oops, I made a bugfix."
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14:46:04 <esowiki> [[User:Orby/Zahlen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80987&oldid=80986 * Orby * (+7) /* ZahlenCore */
14:58:02 <esowiki> [[User:Orby/Zahlen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80988&oldid=80987 * Orby * (+7) /* ZahlenCore */
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16:51:58 <HackEso> The 'addquote' command is for adding quotes. Please use it on channel, we like knowing what's in there.
16:52:36 <arseniiv> `addquote <fizzie> Heh, is a "bugfix" also one kind of an affix? <fizzie> Maybe that's what it's called when you use a prefix as a postfix or something. <fizzie> "That's totally crediblein! Oops, I made a bugfix."
16:52:40 <HackEso> 1332) <fizzie> Heh, is a "bugfix" also one kind of an affix? <fizzie> Maybe that's what it's called when you use a prefix as a postfix or something. <fizzie> "That's totally crediblein! Oops, I made a bugfix."
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16:53:06 <arseniiv> where did it say about double spaces to encode newlines? I remember it did somewhere
16:53:20 <OperatorTheDope> I’m the creator of Dick, a programming language about ASCII dicks
16:54:06 <arseniiv> something with static semantics and refinement typing
16:58:46 <HackEso> quoteformat is: <nick> message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two.
16:59:07 <fizzie> I think you got it all right though.
16:59:31 <arseniiv> OperatorTheDope: well, nothing to be sorry of, I’m just bad at suggesting links to good literature
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18:09:31 <b_jonas> fungot, what is bigger than a universe?"
18:09:31 <fungot> b_jonas: wat.? abt the imp. at one? if dun go dunno up to u lo. esting macaroni also hor. dun cook. if parents go and check one! which brand is palladine.cant find much info on the brand is palladine.cant find much info on the brand is palladine.cant find much info on the brand is palladine.cant find much info on the brand is palladine.cant find much info on the brand is palladine.cant find much info on the brand is palladine.c
18:28:32 <fizzie> That sword alone can't stop.
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18:40:00 <HackEso> 1045) <Taneb> I would like to learn how to use a sword <Taneb> And also how to ride a unicycle <Taneb> Perhaps not at the same time
18:43:39 <fizzie> Weird, I thought that thing would have been recorded somewhere.
18:44:03 <esowiki> [[Prehistory of esoteric programming languages]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=80990&oldid=75873 * Emerald * (+0) /* Cellular automata */
18:46:49 <int-e> `quote 20sciencefiction
18:46:51 <HackEso> 810) <GreyKnight> fungot, sing me to sleep <fungot> GreyKnight: 53. file://localhost/ mnt/ space/ media/ books/ 1000+sci-fi%20books/%5bebooks%5d%201000+%20sciencefiction%20%26%20fantasy%20novels%20%28.lit%20forma/ pratchett%2c%20terry/ text/ 14/ fnord <GreyKnight> This is not a very good song
18:49:27 <fizzie> That's may or may not be one of my paths, but if so, it does not sound too respective of intellectual property. :/
18:49:48 <fizzie> fungot: Have you been visiting those torrent sites again?
18:49:48 <fungot> fizzie: no d hav to finish dip code da browser n surf... goodnight have a nice sleep..sweet dreams... done... see u on saturday? all right take
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22:07:30 <zzo38> Why do many computer solitaire card games not expose the suit of aces by default? (Some do, but many don't.)
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22:31:34 <int-e> shachaf: Have you expedited any more monsters?
22:33:08 <int-e> I'm inching closer to 100%... very slowly. 35 friends, 143 landmarks, 577 islands... I still think the toal is 600 (or at least, very close to that)
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22:58:36 <int-e> shachaf: I guess if you want to finish a game you could revisit Hiding Spot... you were pretty close to the end iirc... on the final floor, so you've seen all levels except for the very last one
22:59:13 <zzo38> (Also, in the card game that I described recently, there is no worrying back. I should have mentioned that.)
23:14:57 <HackEso> ulimit? No such file or directory
23:16:05 <int-e> My shell here reports 1036 which I find odd.
23:17:15 <fizzie> I get 1024 as well. I know there's some default limits that are derived from amount of memory, though, which leads to odd numbers presumably due to overhead and stuff like this.
23:17:37 <fizzie> I've got an `ulimit -u` of 128043, which is an odd number.
23:18:42 <fizzie> It's 7916 outside the umlbox on HackEso's system.
23:19:23 <fizzie> Still, ulimit -n is 1024 there as well, so probably your 1036 has some other source.
23:19:31 <int-e> Oh well... I guess it's not really worth investigating.
23:20:19 <int-e> if I `su -` to myself it's 1024, so it's probably connected to how the X11 session is set up
23:22:10 <fizzie> So I've got an ulimit -u of 128043, 62703, 7916 and 3833 on four different systems; they've got roughly 32, 16, 2 and 1 GiB of memory, respectively; that sounds like a very linear relationship.
23:22:43 <int-e> Oh and the hard limit is 1048576, so there are plenty of possible culprits for the extra 12 descruptors.
23:23:25 <fizzie> > zipWith (/) [32768, 16384, 2048, 1024] [128043, 62703, 7916, 3833]
23:23:27 <lambdabot> [0.2559140288809228,0.2612953128239478,0.25871652349671553,0.26715366553613357]
23:30:43 <esowiki> [[RASEL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81012&oldid=80512 * Nakilon * (+117) added the Reddit announcement post link
23:30:48 <int-e> ah it seems to be fvwm2's doing
23:31:34 <int-e> which I guess is old enough that the soft limit may have been too small on some systems.
23:32:31 <esowiki> [[RASEL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81013&oldid=81012 * Nakilon * (+4) formatting
23:41:41 <int-e> Nah, I was running fvwm witg valgrind and that seems to be the real culprit.
23:45:17 <nakilon> didn't know ulimit was proportional to RAM
23:45:23 <nakilon> thought it's just 1024 by default
23:47:10 <nakilon> 1024 on 1 GB CentOS server
23:48:55 <nakilon> observing myself I think I'm stopped with RASEL for now -- can't start making the debugger
23:49:43 <nakilon> the next esoteric thing will rather be some Zachtronix language adaptation idk when
23:52:27 <fizzie> Depends on the limit, and of course the system as well. `ulimit -u` on Linux is proportional to RAM with the rationale that you need at least 256k per process (don't remember if that was about standard stack size, or overhead, or what) for things to be useful, so it makes no sense to allow more processes than RAM / 256k.