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00:17:03 <b_jonas> TannerSwett[m]: I expected more hangul. I only see one hangul syllable in that.
00:18:13 <b_jonas> but it's an interesting esoteric statistic
00:19:29 <nakilon> lol wtf https://esolangs.org/wiki/User_talk:ColorfulGalaxy
00:21:53 <fizzie> ais523 banned them for a couple of days, but I forget if it was before or after that.
00:25:45 <fizzie> Guess it was after those comments, on 9 March. Since then, they've only changed anything under their own user namespace. Still, odd.
00:31:58 <int-e> oh... looking at their "contributions"... why do they post to seemingly random user pages...
00:32:05 <int-e> (or did, before the block)
00:35:14 <int-e> Actually the oddest thing may be that they have one contribution that looks legitimate, namely https://esolangs.org/wiki/Wenyan
00:35:48 <int-e> oh, I'm misreading the logs
00:35:55 <fizzie> Yeah, they just posted a "note" on that page that got reverted.
00:36:18 <int-e> https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Wenyan&diff=prev&oldid=81182 fits the theme
00:36:27 <fizzie> I just don't know. Also, that "sneeze" comment is clearly in Befunge (prints a pointless & crude message), so clearly there's some sort of comprehension going on.
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01:22:57 <TannerSwett[m]> b_jonas: I see two Hangul syllables in there. Look again. :D
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02:19:48 <fizzie> I think that's leaning a little more towards abusive again.
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02:22:07 <fizzie> Maybe I'll need to figure out the block thing again.
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02:33:09 <int-e> Oh that user talk page explains why they're there I guess. Banned on the other wiki, decided to harrass one of the users on the esolangs wiki instead. :-(
02:37:26 <int-e> A block would be welcome... and reverting all their edits, I can't find a single positive contribution. I suppose https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Trump_Bot/List_of_xkcd_articles and https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Trump_Bot&diff=prev&oldid=81283 are neutral... and all the rest is just awful.
02:37:41 <fizzie> FWIW, it's quite possible that banning part is nonsense as well.
02:38:08 <int-e> It's inconsistent... now they're talking about having banned ColorfulGalaxy
02:39:12 <fizzie> LifeWiki's block log says nobody's been banned from there since 2016, though I guess it's possible they've switched to a way of banning people that isn't in the MediaWiki block log. Anyway, I don't think it really matters.
02:39:49 <int-e> It doesn't, beyond lending a semblence of coherence to T-bot's actions.
02:40:17 <fizzie> Guess I'd need to choose whether to make it indefinite or just a long one. Think ais523 already did the warning shot, though.
02:40:59 <int-e> pretty sure ais523 issued a warning and enacted a 3 day ban (and did a partial rollback of edits)
02:41:39 <int-e> actually just for his own user page, I think
02:42:33 <fizzie> Hmm, there's a checkbox whether to still allow editing their own talk page, but I feel like if I leave it unchecked, we'll just get more nonsense about conwaylife.com.
02:45:11 <int-e> oh hmm. yeah I'm inclined to agree, there's no real hope for redemption at this point
02:45:51 <fizzie> I mean, they did just post "Don't block me please" on their own talk page, but with no argument as to why we shouldn't.
02:47:15 <fizzie> OTOH, we can always tick that box later on, I guess it'd be fair to allow an explanation. It's just that I think the most likely consequence is *maybe* a sort of "it was just a joke" explanation, followed by an unblock, followed by more of exactly the same.
02:47:25 <int-e> that was 3 days ago and the more recent edits are... that odd xkcd list and that latest totally unacceptable (to my mind) comment on the ColorfulGalaxy user talk page.
02:48:07 <fizzie> I imagine the xkcd list is also about wiki-blocking. "spamming links to external websites" is one of the stock block reasons.
02:49:16 <fizzie> Of course, it's a very unexpected and innocent interpretation of that phrase. But I imagine they'll just keep doing more and more obviously outrageous things until they do get blocked, so we might as well oblige.
02:50:16 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/block]] block * Fizzie * blocked [[User:Trump Bot]] with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation disabled, email disabled): continued harassing edits of another user's talk page even after previous block; still no constructive posts
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02:52:24 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy]]": Vandalism: cleaning up after Trump Bot
02:52:36 <int-e> Oh I was wrong, ais523 took care of the main namespace edits too... just more quicklu than I thought.
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02:55:29 <fizzie> I guess one problem with that page deletion I did is, it's now less obvious to a casual observer that Trump Bot did that was so damning, since apparently deleting a page removes it from user contributions lists as well. Oh well.
02:57:14 <int-e> I consider that a small loss, and possibly even a win :/
02:58:05 <int-e> Because on the plus side, those edits are now gone.
02:58:53 <fizzie> There's that. Also, they're still in the deletion log for reference.
02:59:56 <int-e> Oh well, here's hoping that this will be the end of it.
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11:31:57 <nakilon> were there roguelike platformers for 8 bit consoles?
11:33:21 <nakilon> oh I guess there are some here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_roguelikes
11:33:38 <nakilon> there is no mark that it's a platformer though
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11:38:15 <myname> how can roguelikes be platformers
12:11:57 <int-e> you turn them sideways or go 3D (minecraft) and abandon the notion that they're turn-based in favor of jumping and running.
12:12:11 <int-e> doesn't seem a far stretch to me
12:14:39 <myname> as someone living in berlin, i am more for the berlin interpretation
12:15:30 <myname> all those filthy rogue-lites
12:15:39 <int-e> Then again I always get upset by how broadly gog interprets "adventure"...
12:16:07 <myname> "you are a character going from a to b, obviously it's an adventure"?
12:16:58 <int-e> basically any game that has a story seems to qualify, e.g., https://www.gog.com/game/Hollow_Knight
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12:18:44 <int-e> whereas what I want are click&point adventures like https://www.gog.com/game/unavowed
12:19:47 <myname> click&point is a weird order of operations
12:20:01 <int-e> but you know what I mean
12:20:11 <int-e> and you do the two in endless alternation anyway ;)
12:21:01 <int-e> and which did you do first (this gets more interesting the younger you are)
12:21:43 <int-e> that said, yes, I should write point&click. :)
12:24:36 <int-e> what I was getting at, the more you're into a genre, the more you tend to care about the finer points of its definition.
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13:56:01 <nakilon> I believe click was invented before point
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14:05:08 <nakilon> btw, I won't call minecraft a roguelike
14:05:35 <nakilon> because you don't build a character; you can change your armor and weapons at any time
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15:47:54 <nakilon> Brainfuck derivatives (348 items)
15:47:54 <nakilon> Brainfuck equivalents (78 items)
15:48:27 <nakilon> I suppose the first one could be changed to 2nd and/or 3rd category
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21:59:07 <b_jonas> "<nakilon> were there roguelike platformers for 8 bit consoles?" => no, they didn't have the RAM quantity for them, and were limited in CPU processing power too
21:59:23 <b_jonas> I think C64 was the earliest popular platform where a roguelike platformer would have been feasable
21:59:51 <b_jonas> "<myname> how can roguelikes be platformers" => Spelunky and its two sequels solved that
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