2021-03-01: 00:03:30 re2 is the default default regex engine. 00:22:40 -!- tromp has joined. 00:27:33 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:39:13 [[Pain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81099&oldid=81098 * RetroPain * (+248) 00:40:56 [[Pain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81100&oldid=81099 * RetroPain * (+46) /* implementations */ 00:49:56 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Trump Bot * New user account 00:59:03 shachaf: that's not how it works. non-greedy match can still be slow when it fails but tries everything to match 00:59:25 b_jonas: What's not how it works? 00:59:38 Non-greedy matching doesn't do what I want, and can still be slow, is what I said. 01:00:43 ah good 01:04:00 -!- tromp has joined. 01:08:23 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:20:57 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:35:44 [[Pain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81101&oldid=81100 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+11) /* Cat program */ Format 01:46:13 almost done 01:47:58 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81102&oldid=81043 * Trump Bot * (+109) 01:56:55 stupid CORS 01:57:10 can't fetch the file from the child domain 02:06:32 -!- spiegelau has quit (Quit: leaving). 02:36:16 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:40:19 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:42:52 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:52:05 -!- tromp has joined. 02:56:15 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:19:59 FFS 03:20:15 https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/configuring-cors says: "ORIGIN is an origin allowed for cross origin resource sharing with this bucket. For example, example.appspot.com." 03:21:19 but only two pages below in the "Ensure that the request has an Origin header and that the header value matches ..." there is the correct format -- it needs "http://" 03:35:30 okay, done: http://www.nakilon.pro/esolang.htm? 03:36:05 note the "?" at the end of the url -- it might be needed during the next minutes/hour due to CDN cache 03:38:54 -!- sprock has joined. 03:39:11 this is weird: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Cell-based description mentions Befunge but it isn't in this category 03:46:00 -!- tromp has joined. 03:47:19 -!- tromp_ has joined. 03:47:20 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:49:57 -!- tromp_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:50:34 -!- tromp has joined. 03:51:27 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:52:00 -!- tromp has joined. 03:53:26 -!- tromp_ has joined. 03:53:26 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:54:18 -!- tromp_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:55:04 -!- tromp has joined. 03:59:13 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 04:01:05 -!- tromp has joined. 04:05:57 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 04:21:10 [[Pain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81103&oldid=81101 * RetroPain * (+2) /* Cat program */ 04:41:14 [[User:Nakilon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81104&oldid=79471 * Nakilon * (+126) added link to the "Esolang categories intersector" 05:08:36 [[Befunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81105&oldid=81014 * Quintopia * (+162) added another example of B97 command. 05:49:10 -!- tromp has joined. 05:53:57 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:54:29 -!- tromp has joined. 05:58:48 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:39:09 -!- tromp has joined. 06:43:24 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:53:05 -!- tromp has joined. 06:55:33 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * ColorfulGalaxy * New user account 06:57:33 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 07:00:04 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81106&oldid=81102 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+230) 07:19:35 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:55:05 John Shutt (creator of Kernel Lisp) died 08:05:31 https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_mourns_loss_of_volunteer_John_Shutt 08:11:40 -!- tromp has joined. 08:15:25 [[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81107 * Trump Bot * (+533) Also, please vote for the "Yes Smoking Day" (a holiday on November 31st as opposed to No smoking day) proposal 08:35:23 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:40:00 -!- craigo has joined. 09:05:14 -!- sprock has quit (Quit: ...). 09:08:53 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:11:00 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:23:57 -!- user24 has joined. 09:28:01 -!- TheLie has joined. 09:31:33 -!- LKoen has joined. 09:51:43 -!- spruit11 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 10:27:19 -!- spruit11 has joined. 10:55:28 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 11:15:08 -!- APic has joined. 11:50:29 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 11:51:05 -!- APic has joined. 12:00:44 -!- arseniiv has joined. 12:01:09 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:15:23 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 12:16:15 -!- hendursaga has joined. 12:32:53 -!- dionys has joined. 13:04:37 guys maybe there is already such a language that I imagining right now?... 13:06:57 there is no stack, only the two layers: 1. the instructions layer, that is a source code like in any funge 2. the data layer where the stdin comes to and gets processed by the instructions 13:08:28 the layers exist directly one above another one, that is the stdin data byte-by-byte come to the left-top cell and then are moving automatically every tick to the direction it moved the last time, being processed by the instruction on the same coordinate from the instructions layer 13:10:34 so the data flows over the 2d code like in a 2d version of the http://www.zachtronics.com/infinifactory/ 13:11:49 unlike the game, it's not 3d, there are only 2 layers (and probably no funge's toroidal jumping over the edges of the space, not sure yet) 13:12:41 and the instructions are > < v ^ : (dup) / - 13:13:21 so the flow of data through the space has to be used as stack if you need it 13:14:19 oh, and some conditional instruction that conditionally tramplines the byte 13:16:56 so if, for example, you want to push something "3 positions deeper to the stack" you take if out from the flow (the imaginary conveyor line over which the bytes are moving), move around and push from the side on the "conveyor" behind the following bytes 13:17:43 but idk how to make a random read from the flow 13:24:45 conditional and arithmetic instructions (/, -) are consuming one byte and editing the next byte letting it out on the next tick 13:25:35 -!- LKoen_ has joined. 13:26:10 when two or more bytes are willing to get to the same coordinate they are prioritized by the order of appearance from the stdin 13:27:36 -!- LKoen has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 13:28:17 the "/" "-" instructions, when they spawn a new byte, they give it the same priority that the last processed byte had; ":" inserts the new byte in between of priority queue 13:32:10 I'm now losing the understanding the difference between terms of the language and the VM that runs it 13:34:56 I mean, for example, Befunge -- the reference explanations of what the instructions do is a language I guess while the description of the space is a "Befunge machine", not a "Befunge language" I guess 13:40:06 [[User:RetroPain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81108&oldid=81076 * RetroPain * (+2) /* 2021 */ 13:59:27 actually you can turn around and push some byte from the side onto the conditional instruction to make it to "knock out" some byte from the flow to other side 14:00:22 you don't even need to make free spaces to insert something into a tail because tail bytes have lower priority 14:00:37 but there should be some technic to compress the flow 14:01:35 oh no, nvm, it's not possible, you can't make the time go faster 14:02:46 but... there should be the way to stop the byte to make the next one reach it if it's delayed... 14:08:20 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:09:01 -!- user24 has quit (Quit: We must know, we will know). 14:13:29 -!- LKoen_ has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. 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(the docs say that it's experimental.) its name conflicts with an alias subcommand that I set up before git had that subcommand. 15:59:56 I'm trying to figure out what I should do about this. luckily the rest of my aliases have sillier names and so probably won't have this problem. 16:27:28 -!- hippest has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:30:19 fungot: of the places that Mary went, what is the ratio of those to which the lamb was sure to go? 16:30:19 b_jonas: to write only..i dnt knw so i askd u for dis program but u didnt.i trusted u only na..i thaught i am angry 16:47:02 s/silly/esoteric 16:49:14 nakilon: very well. the names of the aliases I have set up in my config are: logns logp bs whereami dicc lsref switch 16:49:55 -!- spruit11 has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 16:51:13 bs doesn't stand for bullshit, (git bs) is an alias to (git status -bs) 16:56:16 -!- spruit11 has joined. 17:16:07 fungot: what would happen if you were trained on nursery rhymes? 17:16:07 int-e: v didnt start yet d..goin to start now, make me dinner and help me get it done soon mah. 17:21:45 -!- LKoen has joined. 17:28:12 My only git alias is `log1 = log --oneline --decorate=full --graph`. 17:34:48 changes=log -p --reverse ..origin, ci=commit 17:35:25 probably barely used 17:39:14 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 17:50:29 -!- dingwat has joined. 19:02:35 moved gist to a repo https://github.com/Nakilon/esolang and made a scheduled Github Action that will update the page every day 19:12:02 -!- TheLie has joined. 19:55:29 [[FILO]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81110&oldid=79785 * Qpliu * (+569) Rework language to be more usable for programming 20:44:41 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:05:13 -!- copumpkin has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:07:27 -!- copumpkin has joined. 21:34:48 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 21:46:40 -!- aloril has joined. 21:50:34 -!- mromerom2021 has joined. 21:51:38 -!- mromerom2021 has left. 21:54:24 [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Emerald * uploaded "[[File:1EA23DDC-40BC-4A30-A045-372C7A6B34D7.png]]" 21:57:57 -!- craigo has joined. 22:23:05 SSCAIT (Starcraft AI tournament) Finals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NS6LEPh-vc (starting somewhere around 40:00) 22:33:55 -!- delta23 has joined. 22:39:16 two more recents videos on the channel are some Human vs AI matches 22:39:39 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. 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Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 23:32:42 int-e: Maybe you'll like this game that jix mentioned: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1471960/Room_to_Grow/ 23:33:36 That reminds me of the Snakebird music. 23:34:44 But maybe that's just how block-pushing games are supposed to sound like. 23:37:18 Hmm, I don't know about the music, but the actual moving-around sound reminded me of Snakebird. 23:37:26 So much that I was wondering whether it was the same people or something. 23:48:59 Are block-pushing games supposed to have a specific style of music? 23:52:22 (Hero Mesh has a version of Piano Sonata No.11 Movement III by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, although you can substitute your own music if you want to.) 2021-03-02: 00:05:14 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Category:Possibly turing complete]]": Author request: content was: "Pending deletion", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Moon|Moon]]" ([[User talk:Moon|talk]]) 00:06:35 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Category:Posibly turing complete]]": unapproved/undiscussed category 00:25:48 -!- delta23 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:33:52 -!- delta23 has joined. 00:54:35 [[Em3]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81112 * Emerald * (+213) Hell 00:55:09 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:55:14 [[Em3]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81113&oldid=81112 * Emerald * (+26) 00:57:31 [[File:1EA23DDC-40BC-4A30-A045-372C7A6B34D7.png]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81114&oldid=81111 * Emerald * (-1) Blanked the page 01:04:41 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81115&oldid=71945 * Emerald * (+210) /* Please delete an image. */ new section 02:10:09 -!- grumble has quit (Ping timeout: 624 seconds). 02:14:22 -!- grumble has joined. 02:40:35 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:41:03 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 02:44:14 [[Butterbrain]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81116&oldid=71625 * Fwander * (+75) 03:04:17 -!- Hooloovo0 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 03:18:11 -!- Hooloovo0 has joined. 03:22:30 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:02:35 [[User:DGCK81LNN]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81117&oldid=79480 * DGCK81LNN * (-4) /* Befunge simple game Less or More */ 04:04:27 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 04:04:27 -!- xelxebar has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 04:16:14 -!- xelxebar has joined. 04:17:44 -!- hendursaga has joined. 05:37:32 shachaf: hmm maybe 06:02:20 "The target audience would ideally bear through the frustration of having their initial attempts thwarted, and persevere until they figure out the solution for themselves. Because, outside of that interaction, there’s little joy to be had in Room to Grow." -- iow, it's a puzzle game :P 06:04:44 @time int-e 06:04:47 Local time for int-e is Tue Mar 2 07:04:44 2021 06:10:54 -!- deja has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:16:45 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:48:22 -!- zzo38 has joined. 07:25:45 -!- LKoen has joined. 08:09:09 -!- user24 has joined. 08:25:40 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:37:15 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 08:38:02 -!- ais523 has joined. 09:09:05 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:10:18 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:19:56 -!- deja has joined. 09:43:44 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:15:28 -!- mniip has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds). 10:22:27 -!- mniip has joined. 10:35:32 -!- dingwat has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 10:39:52 -!- LKoen has joined. 10:47:15 -!- user24 has quit (Quit: We must know, we will know). 11:01:12 -!- xelxebar has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:01:27 -!- xelxebar has joined. 11:42:16 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: (tentatively) reenabling @seen). 11:44:38 -!- lambdabot has joined. 12:02:12 -!- TheLie has joined. 12:15:38 -!- kspalaiologos has joined. 12:25:23 -!- glumby has joined. 12:26:01 -!- glumby has quit (Client Quit). 12:42:42 [[Esolang talk:Community portal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81118&oldid=70777 * Emerald * (+165) /* Admin list? */ new section 12:45:05 -!- arseniiv has joined. 13:11:12 hmmm "To be fair I had no idea most sscanf implementations called strlen [...]" -- I'm surprised too. (cf. https://nee.lv/2021/02/28/How-I-cut-GTA-Online-loading-times-by-70/ ) 13:13:58 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:22:41 [[Esolang talk:Community portal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81119&oldid=81118 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+277) /* Admin list? */ Reply 13:27:40 [[*]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81120&oldid=79211 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+6) /* Random Number Generator between 0 and 2,147,483,647 */ Fix example 13:43:41 [[Imeight]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81121&oldid=80764 * Kekcsi * (+297) about reverse tokenization 13:44:56 zzo38: I don't know. I think the important part for game music is that the player should be able to change the volume or mute the game music separately from other sound effects of the game, so that if they want, they can listen to music from somewhere outside the game while still hearing the game sound effects. 13:45:12 most games get this right these days. 13:47:10 -!- LKoen has joined. 13:47:50 Some people might want to clearly hear the game sounds without music… 13:55:04 [[Imeight]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81122&oldid=81121 * Kekcsi * (+116) /* Interpreted? */ 14:01:48 TheLie: that happens too, especially when the game interface is badly designed and a very low volume sound effect gives you an advantage that you can't get otherwise. this happened in Spelunky 2 on the cosmic ocean levels, both with the bubble pop sound effects and more importantly the bubble ambiant sound effects. in those cases, the interface should be fixed too, to give a visual clue and possibly a 14:01:54 louder sound effect. 14:17:13 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:39:03 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 14:39:26 -!- deja has quit (Quit: requested). 14:42:29 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 14:43:38 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[File:1EA23DDC-40BC-4A30-A045-372C7A6B34D7.png]]": author request; also privacy violation 14:44:13 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81123&oldid=81115 * Ais523 * (+145) /* Please delete an image. */ done 14:46:09 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 14:50:15 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 15:08:56 -!- mmmattyx has joined. 15:22:08 -!- xelxebar has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:22:25 -!- xelxebar has joined. 15:28:35 [[Imeight]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81124&oldid=81122 * Kekcsi * (+36) deeper links 15:32:06 [[Imeight]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81125&oldid=81124 * Kekcsi * (+51) /* The imeight language */ 16:11:20 -!- Sgeo has joined. 17:09:38 -!- craigo has joined. 17:28:39 -!- mmmattyx has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 17:28:43 -!- delta23 has joined. 17:33:31 -!- galactic has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:46:27 -!- kspalaiologos has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:57:13 [[Cabra]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81126&oldid=80585 * Smjg * (+1) /* Terminates First */ rm spurious line breaks that were messing up the output 19:16:51 [[User:Mario]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81127&oldid=81028 * Mario * (+101) 19:19:40 shachaf: okay, growing space is cute... and tricky 19:33:44 let's see if the proton thing runs it on linux 19:41:48 -!- sprock has joined. 19:48:54 yes, it does 19:53:47 b_jonas: Yes, I agree, I should want to be able to change music and sound effects volume separately 20:04:48 [[2cmd]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81128 * Mario * (+786) Created page with "

2CMD...

...is an esoteric language with only two commands ( and &)
Just increments the TOS
&, though..." 20:05:53 [[2CMD]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81129 * Mario * (+18) Redirected page to [[2cmd]] 20:22:13 shachaf: not looking for hints, but this one has me stumped: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/grow.jpg (last one left in the forest) 20:22:53 (I'll probably figure it out eventually) 20:24:28 -!- FreeFull has joined. 20:29:19 What's the number? 20:29:38 21 20:30:30 I haven't done it yet. 20:30:35 I actually expect it'll be easy in retrospect 20:32:41 Now I'm there. 20:34:18 it's nice that the game has alternative routes 20:34:20 Solved. 20:34:33 Maybe I got lucky. 20:37:24 I definitely got lucky, because now I can't quite reproduce my solution, hmm. 20:46:27 I hate when that happens 20:46:36 Oh, of course. 20:49:12 Wait, I just solved it a second time, said "aha, that was the trick", and now I can't reproduce it again. 20:58:27 Well, now I can reproduce it, at least. 21:03:02 -!- hakatashi2 has joined. 21:04:55 -!- interruptinuse has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:05:48 -!- interruptinuse has joined. 21:06:37 -!- hakatashi has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:06:37 -!- ornxka has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:07:06 -!- ornxka has joined. 21:14:09 -!- mmmattyx has joined. 21:40:36 ah, obvious in retrospect it is 21:49:38 -!- V has changed nick to v. 21:51:06 -!- v has changed nick to V. 21:57:33 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 22:13:21 The level editor in my program worked before and now it doesn't work. 22:14:59 https://nullprogram.com/blog/2020/06/29/ 22:15:08 ^ images are clickable videos 22:16:15 finally found a time to read the https://nullprogram.com/blog/2017/03/12/ 22:18:34 16:47:50 Some people might want to clearly hear the game sounds without music… 22:18:38 I play games without music 22:19:00 I wanna be aware of every noise that happens 22:20:09 and if the music is supposed to entertain me then it's not the best game if it does not entertain me with a gameplay enough 22:20:55 b_jonas damn, I can't reach the cosmic ocean yet 22:37:40 I had once figured out a cheat code to disable the music in Super Mario Land, although I no longer have that. 22:37:47 [[User:Emerald/E Awards]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81130&oldid=80926 * Emerald * (+193) winner determined 22:40:03 Pokemon de Panepon has a music switch and sound switch option, but they are hidden; go to the option menu, move the cursor to the "gallery" option (the last one), and then push SELECT and A buttons together, and then another menu will come up with music switch and sound switch, and other options (including one to adjust the maximum number of digits in the score; I don't know why). 23:02:08 [[User:Emerald/sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81131&oldid=77746 * Emerald * (+754) Em3 23:03:50 [[Em3]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81132&oldid=81113 * Emerald * (-156) Redirected page to [[User:Emerald/sandbox#Em3]] 23:22:13 I found the mistake in my program; it was just one character wrong, in a numeric constant. Such things can happen. 23:23:54 -!- mmmattyx has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 23:24:08 zzo38 #define ZERO 1 23:24:13 *NULL 23:31:38 This can be either due to typing the wrong number even though you know which number is correct, or due to writing the number that you believed to be correct, but later figured out that a different number is better. In my case, it is the latter; I had 0x20 but 0xC0 is correct, so I changed it to that and now it works OK. (It has to do with the variant of RLE used in this program.) 23:39:38 -!- FreeFull has quit. 2021-03-03: 00:06:59 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:18:26 -!- df1111 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:19:24 -!- df1111 has joined. 00:20:43 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 00:20:58 -!- fungot has joined. 00:21:04 fungot: Everything all right? 00:21:04 fizzie: after u log in skype. will talk later 00:21:09 Guess so. 00:52:18 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:57:07 -!- b_jonas has quit (Quit: leaving). 01:09:50 [[Iavac]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81133&oldid=66746 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+75) /* Special Addresses (memory mapping) */ cats 01:27:14 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 01:27:33 -!- hendursaga has joined. 01:36:21 [[Rotten]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81134&oldid=58688 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+819) /* Fibonacci Sequence */ Categories, Interpeeter 01:36:46 [[Rotten]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81135&oldid=81134 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+25) /* Interpreter */ cat 02:29:59 -!- wmww has quit (*.net *.split). 02:33:17 -!- wmww has joined. 02:35:26 updated: 2021-03-03 00:38:24 +0000 02:35:43 looks like Github Action cron isn't very precise 02:35:52 (it's 0 0 * * *) 02:40:45 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 02:42:55 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:42:55 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 03:10:20 -!- xelxebar has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in). 03:10:42 -!- xelxebar has joined. 03:41:35 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:47:07 -!- zzo38 has joined. 03:48:46 Do you like the syntax of Free Hero Mesh? 03:51:59 Do you like tsume shogi or any chess problems? 04:08:28 (I have a tsume shogi game on my computer, I have figured out some of them) 04:11:44 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 04:31:01 Why are many programs not documented very well? 04:31:35 I try to use some program, but sometimes it is difficult because it is not documented. 04:37:07 [[Magicard!]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81136&oldid=45996 * Quintopia * (+0) typo 04:41:47 [[User:Erinius/Ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81137&oldid=80635 * Erinius * (+126) 04:51:29 Sgeo: https://ajxs.me/blog/Giving_Ada_a_chance.html 04:51:35 How's your Ada going? 04:53:45 I haven't looked in Ada at a long time, but that blog post's mentioning of embedded stuff makes me wonder if there's an Ada compiler for Commodore 64 04:54:02 `? sgeolang 04:54:07 Sgeolang used to change frequently, but eventually it rusted in place. 05:12:48 [[SetBang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81138&oldid=49070 * Erinius * (+82) 07:25:29 didn't read science fiction for like15 years 07:26:04 there must be some post-apocaliptic novel about robots on the Earth withuot humans 07:30:30 lol, wtf https://i.imgur.com/yZJBXRu.png 07:31:47 some advertisment, this picture is supposed to be about the "industrial revolution" 07:43:13 I managed to solve the first 100 out of 200 levels of tsume shogi so far. 07:45:21 It is a similar game to chess. 08:29:02 -!- TheLie has joined. 08:30:00 Suddenly I want to play Logication again 08:46:18 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 08:46:30 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:08:52 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:10:50 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 11:15:19 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:09:39 -!- user24 has joined. 12:11:58 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 12:22:15 -!- spruit11 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:29:09 -!- user24 has quit (Quit: We must know, we will know). 13:24:22 [[Self%ify]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81139 * Mario * (+1678) Created page with "

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Is unique because the source, STDIN, and STDOUT are all the same, however, this does not remove any abilities, and if anything, actually adds to..." 13:41:13 -!- arseniiv has joined. 13:43:42 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Mario * moved [[2cmd]] to [[Third Party Contractor Accused Of A Robbery]]: Name change 13:44:12 [[2cmd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81142&oldid=81141 * Mario * (-57) Blanked the page 13:45:06 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Mario * moved [[2cmd]] to [[Empty page]] 13:50:15 [[Third Party Contractor Accused Of A Robbery]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81145&oldid=81140 * Mario * (+64) 13:51:02 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Mario * moved [[Empty page]] to [[TPCAR]] 13:51:43 [[TPCAR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81148&oldid=81146 * Mario * (+57) Redirected page to [[Third Party Contractor Accused Of a Robbery]] 13:52:18 [[TPCAR]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81149&oldid=81148 * Mario * (+0) Changed redirect target from [[Third Party Contractor Accused Of a Robbery]] to [[Third Party Contractor Accused Of A Robbery]] 14:14:51 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 14:22:22 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:27:18 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 14:27:48 [[User:Mario]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81150&oldid=81127 * Mario * (+1) 14:40:00 [[V]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81151&oldid=80531 * Bo Tie * (+150) turing complete, cool 14:49:13 -!- spruit11 has joined. 15:18:26 -!- sprock has joined. 15:30:20 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[2CMD]]": Broken redirect 15:30:20 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * JustJude * New user account 15:30:27 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[2cmd]]": Broken redirect 15:30:44 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Empty page]]": Broken redirect 15:38:26 [[V]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81152&oldid=81151 * Bo Tie * (+82) 15:39:11 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81153&oldid=81106 * JustJude * (+105) /* Introductions */ 15:59:41 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 16:25:48 TIL about a xor linked list 16:26:07 that’s fabulous though I probably won’t need that trick ever 16:26:30 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 16:28:08 I presume one can traverse the list in increments of ±1, …, ±(2^n − 1) by adding xor-link fields for increments of 2, 4 and so on? 16:28:26 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:28:46 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 16:32:01 Sounds likely, but it'd make any deletions and insertions real expensive. 16:32:23 Well, maybe not "real" expensive, but anyway more complex. 16:33:50 hm no, it seems several layers don’t help each other: say we came to 4 from 2, then we can come to 6 but we can’t come to 3 or 5 16:34:42 or we probably need to change what we xor together, when we make several layers, hm 16:35:31 like one layer is ±1, the other is ±1 and ±2, the third is ±1 and ±2 and ±4 16:35:46 hm, not much help though 16:36:41 so that list is more of a curio 17:01:05 -!- grumble has quit (*.net *.split). 17:01:06 -!- iovoid has quit (*.net *.split). 17:01:06 -!- nakilon has quit (*.net *.split). 17:01:07 -!- Cale has quit (*.net *.split). 17:07:03 -!- grumble has joined. 17:07:03 -!- iovoid has joined. 17:07:03 -!- nakilon has joined. 17:07:03 -!- Cale has joined. 17:17:22 -!- craigo has joined. 17:47:57 [[LongDick]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81154 * Cybertelx * (+1340) Longest dick. 17:53:18 [[User:Cybertelx]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81155&oldid=79204 * Cybertelx * (+94) 17:58:42 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 18:09:23 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 18:20:50 -!- b_jonas has joined. 18:23:24 " I presume one can traverse the list in increments of ±1, …, ±(2^n − 1) by adding xor-link fields for increments of 2, 4 and so on?" => I don't think you can do that. even in theory. 18:23:39 not even for just traversing an existing list. 18:24:41 ah I see I'm slow, you already realized that 18:29:15 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Quit: quit). 18:52:33 I mean, you could go all the way using the skip links, you just couldn't transition into a smaller step size (without extra "conversion" links that'd probably defeat the point). 18:53:43 I imagine you could have a xor-linked list where every N'th node is a special "fat" node that has as extra fields one xor-linked list of the fat nodes, and one field holding (prev-fat ^ next-skinny) so that you can "step down", though. 18:54:19 (Or step up, if you're coming from the neighbouring skinny node.) 19:24:35 fizzie: yeah. or just use a balanced tree. 19:24:42 I prefer balanced tree. 19:25:05 but I must admit, a skip list has some practicality 19:29:12 -!- craigo has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:37:37 -!- craigo has joined. 20:29:12 -!- j-bot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:29:30 -!- j-bot has joined. 20:48:03 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Kefalonia * New user account 20:51:54 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81156&oldid=81153 * Kefalonia * (+211) Hello, I am Fotis. I'm behind Linux's Coffee Howto with SBN2 and I generally experiment with SBN2, SBN3 & SBN4 oisc models. 20:59:33 [[OISC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81157&oldid=80733 * Kefalonia * (+231) explain SBN variants 21:00:42 [[OISC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81158&oldid=81157 * Kefalonia * (+4) aka. subneg in a more readable place 21:06:20 -!- Remavas has joined. 21:07:16 -!- Remavas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:12:49 * int-e wonders whether Growing Space is NP-hard (what I've seen so far is in NP simply because the solution length is bounded by the level size) 21:13:43 hah 21:13:47 Room to Grow, I mean 21:16:41 [[SBN]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81159&oldid=74666 * Kefalonia * (+378) explaining sbn 21:19:33 -!- spruit11 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:19:49 -!- spruit11 has joined. 21:25:17 Interesting, that does limit it more than Sokoban. 21:25:52 I like the property that you can (mostly) read the transcript of the solution from a picture of the final state. 21:33:38 -!- fizzie has quit (*.net *.split). 21:33:38 -!- int-e has quit (*.net *.split). 21:33:39 -!- stux|RC-only has quit (*.net *.split). 21:33:39 -!- j4cbo has quit (*.net *.split). 21:33:39 -!- shinh has quit (*.net *.split). 21:33:39 -!- vertrex- has quit (*.net *.split). 21:33:39 -!- atehwa has quit (*.net *.split). 21:34:42 -!- fizzie has joined. 21:34:42 -!- int-e has joined. 21:34:42 -!- stux|RC-only has joined. 21:34:42 -!- j4cbo has joined. 21:34:42 -!- shinh has joined. 21:34:42 -!- vertrex- has joined. 21:34:42 -!- atehwa has joined. 21:36:33 -!- j-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:36:50 -!- j-bot has joined. 21:58:14 19:25:48 TIL about a xor linked list 21:58:15 TIL 21:59:00 and about doing larger steps 21:59:39 there was one ICFPC about digging the ground and collecting the gold 22:00:53 the 1st place was taken by a team of one who was coding in C++ and he used such lists that had 2^n length links 22:01:11 or that wasn't even a list, that was a tree 22:01:56 idk how he decided how many steps back he needed but it was said that was an important optimizing thing 22:12:51 -!- olferino has joined. 22:12:51 -!- olferino has quit (Excess Flood). 22:13:45 I suppose so. I have not played the game, although I saw the animation, and I can see how the game is working. 22:20:09 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: Bye!). 22:26:14 -!- copumpkin has joined. 22:34:12 -!- delta23 has joined. 22:44:24 -!- zzo38 has quit (Disconnected by services). 22:44:29 -!- zzo38 has joined. 22:55:40 [[SBN]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81160&oldid=81159 * Kefalonia * (+291) provide URLs 23:38:23 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 23:38:59 Do any ICFP contest winners using assembly language, or any programming language they make up themself, or any esoteric programming language? Has anyone used it without winning? 2021-03-04: 00:08:29 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 00:08:45 -!- hendursaga has joined. 00:15:55 Got a weird PM again 00:17:17 send it to 4 friends 00:30:59 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:43:52 [[Talk:TheSingularity]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81161 * Emerald * (+141) /* Help! */ new section 00:46:28 or enemies 01:05:35 -!- mniip has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds). 01:06:19 -!- sprock has quit (Quit: ...). 02:18:32 -!- craigo has joined. 02:33:59 -!- int-e has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 02:42:02 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 02:43:19 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:43:45 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:43:45 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 02:45:39 -!- int-e has joined. 02:48:50 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:10:26 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Zzzzz). 04:15:56 -!- zzo38 has quit (Disconnected by services). 04:16:07 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:17:18 How should be made a programming language for defining solitaire card games? I had a few ideas about it, but not all. 05:00:48 -!- mniip has joined. 05:19:45 maybe wiki has examples 05:21:32 zzo38: What are your ideas? 05:21:39 `quote octopus 05:21:41 179) Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) \ 208) ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. 05:22:03 Can your language express Sandwich - The Card Game and Professional Octopus of the World? 05:24:13 shachaf: You can define different kind of objects, including zones, games, and commands, and you can define rules such as movable and receivable for each zone, which are pure functions of the game and will be true or false, and events, and optionally global variables. For example, in Freecell, the free cells can each receive one card when empty. This might be "vac&:1" or maybe the syntax might differ. 05:25:06 If "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" are solitaire card games, then it is expected that they would be implementable. (It is OK if it uses a subset of the common deck, multiple decks, or a different deck such as a tarot deck; it is not limited to a common deck of cards.) 05:26:22 `quote rasel 05:26:23 No output. 05:29:01 Do you have better ideas? 05:36:28 -!- UstinLVO has joined. 06:11:05 [[Nope.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81162&oldid=81054 * Salpynx * (+620) /* Implementations */ Lazy K implementation, and alpha-sort sections 06:33:02 -!- dcristofani has joined. 06:36:43 -!- zzo38 has quit (Disconnected by services). 06:36:48 -!- zzo38 has joined. 06:58:48 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 07:43:55 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 07:45:26 -!- zzo38 has joined. 08:06:35 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:13:02 [[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81163&oldid=81107 * Trump Bot * (+197) 08:28:24 -!- dcristofani has joined. 08:29:42 -!- Lymee has joined. 08:29:49 -!- atriq has joined. 08:29:53 -!- ocharles_ has joined. 08:29:58 -!- user3456 has joined. 08:30:00 -!- dnm_ has joined. 08:31:31 -!- SoniEx2 has joined. 08:32:06 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:43:31 -!- sebbu has quit (*.net *.split). 08:43:32 -!- Soni has quit (*.net *.split). 08:43:32 -!- user3456_ has quit (*.net *.split). 08:43:32 -!- Lymia has quit (*.net *.split). 08:43:32 -!- Taneb has quit (*.net *.split). 08:43:33 -!- ocharles has quit (*.net *.split). 08:43:33 -!- dnm has quit (*.net *.split). 08:43:37 -!- Lymee has changed nick to Lymia. 08:43:42 -!- dnm_ has changed nick to dnm. 08:43:45 -!- ocharles_ has changed nick to ocharles. 08:47:37 [[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81164&oldid=81163 * Trump Bot * (+188) 08:59:35 -!- atriq has changed nick to Taneb. 09:09:09 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:10:46 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:20:22 -!- dionys has quit (Quit: dionys). 09:20:35 -!- dionys has joined. 09:20:42 -!- dionys has quit (Changing host). 09:20:42 -!- dionys has joined. 09:33:03 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * SansCipher * New user account 09:35:09 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81165&oldid=81156 * SansCipher * (+163) /* Introductions */ 09:36:22 [[User:SansCipher]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81166 * SansCipher * (+75) Created page with "Things I like: Programming Obscure topics Things I don't like: Lists Irony" 09:37:16 [[User:SansCipher]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81167&oldid=81166 * SansCipher * (+20) 10:07:07 -!- arseniiv has joined. 10:27:07 -!- sebbu has joined. 11:21:09 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 11:22:40 shachaf: "Sandwich" is one common word, so it is already used as the name of a card game: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/80933/sandwich . That's from 2012, when is the quote from? 11:29:53 The quote is revision 0, which is from 2012 where the HackEso repo in the live HackEso was cut, so it might precede that card game 11:30:13 "Professional Octopus of the World" is a good one, seems unused so far 11:39:33 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 12:16:01 -!- LKoen has joined. 12:21:19 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:11:22 -!- LKoen has joined. 13:36:32 -!- Noxim has joined. 13:39:41 -!- SoniEx2 has changed nick to Soni. 13:43:23 -!- Noxim has quit (Quit: Connection closed). 13:58:56 Well, the relevant name isn't "Sandwich", it's "Sandwich - The Card Game". 14:00:53 `learn The password of the month is grammaphobic. 14:00:56 Relearned 'password': The password of the month is grammaphobic. 14:01:55 shachaf: makes sense, you could absolutely have a video game based on a real or fictional card game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" or perhaps even an anime based on a fictional card game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" 14:05:38 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. 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Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 14:31:33 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 14:33:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 14:55:54 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:53:42 [[User:Not applicable]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81168&oldid=80793 * Not applicable * (+258) add stupidpaint 15:59:48 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Quit: Connection closed). 16:56:27 -!- Noxim has joined. 17:04:15 -!- Noxim has quit (Quit: Connection closed). 17:09:33 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 17:39:24 [[Brainpocalypse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81169&oldid=57025 * Zero player rodent * (+669) 17:40:29 [[User:Zero player rodent]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81170&oldid=81066 * Zero player rodent * (+21) 17:43:26 [[Brainpocalypse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81171&oldid=81169 * Zero player rodent * (-340) 18:30:50 -!- sprock has joined. 18:47:32 [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * JustJude * uploaded "[[File:Bread.png]]": An anatomically accurate image of a loaf bread 18:59:19 -!- spruit11 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:24:19 Hello. Do you know any esolang whose character set is restricted to DEC SIXBIT? Except Brainfuck and similar Turing tarpits - I'm looking for something like GolfScript 19:30:04 -!- spruit11 has joined. 20:09:27 shachaf: have you encountered 60 degree angles in Room to Grow? 20:11:02 > (24+1+3+0+27+1+3+1+20, 24+1+5+1+31+1+5+1+38+1) 20:11:04 (80,108) 20:11:39 > 80/108*100 20:11:42 74.07407407407408 20:13:40 (108 is the expected number of stars to earn... that I can see, maybe there are surprise levels somewhere) 20:23:53 -!- craigo has joined. 20:35:38 things like “if (x == y) return x; else return NULL;” (say) make me unsuccesfully contemplating how to make the code truly symmetric with regard to x and y 20:37:08 symmetric? 20:37:28 -!- test has joined. 20:37:29 if (x == y) return (x | y); else return NULL; 20:37:35 -!- test has quit (Client Quit). 20:37:54 UstinLVO: that won’t do for x, y of arbitrary type! 20:38:35 -!- esolang5784937 has joined. 20:38:44 unfortunately 20:38:48 hm 20:38:54 Open esolang question: https://cstheory.stackexchange.com/questions/48349/is-this-variant-of-bitwise-cyclic-tag-turing-complete 20:39:41 -!- esolang5784937 has quit (Client Quit). 20:41:02 there are inefficient variants like “xs = sort([x, y]); return len(xs) == 1 ? xs[0] : NULL” (btw that’s just a C-like syntax, I picked it for universality) 20:41:42 oops that doesn’t work like I meant 20:41:51 we need take something like set([x, y]) 20:43:00 this will be an actually good thing when there are arbitrarily many elements, and also it works as expected when there are 0 and 1 elements 20:43:22 but for the special case of two or a handful of elements, well… 20:44:15 I think maybe languages would be better to have some form of that thing as a primitive 20:48:39 hm now that I think of it, by default there *is* asymmetry, x and y may be equal but have different representations, even if not observable by us in any way 21:01:39 -!- dcristofani has joined. 21:19:48 -!- delta23 has joined. 21:34:49 [[Maybe Later]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81173&oldid=52953 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+240) /* Examples */ Truth-machine; headers 21:39:31 -!- zzo38 has joined. 22:32:38 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Arabica * New user account 22:34:32 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81174&oldid=81165 * Arabica * (+66) /* Introductions */ 22:37:16 -!- galactic has joined. 22:38:24 [[User:Arabica]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81175 * Arabica * (+227) Created page with "I have made an EsoLang called "Eon". Classes are: name(args) -> propety = "This is how you make a class!, also tab indentation is important." Varibles Are name = value Fun..." 22:38:58 [[User:Arabica]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81176&oldid=81175 * Arabica * (+12) 22:39:47 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 22:40:26 [[User:Arabica]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81177&oldid=81176 * Arabica * (-5) 22:42:49 [[User:Arabica]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81178&oldid=81177 * Arabica * (+163) 22:56:06 -!- dcristofani has joined. 23:15:19 -!- gurmble has joined. 23:15:29 -!- grumble has quit (Quit: K-Lined). 23:15:51 -!- gurmble has changed nick to grumble. 23:25:15 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 23:25:36 -!- hendursaga has joined. 23:46:25 int-e: Oops, missed that. 23:46:40 Nope, last new mechanic I saw was steps of different sizes. 23:47:26 I finished all of Forest but I think only about half of Mountain so far, and just a bit of Desert. 23:47:33 shachaf: Okay, it's just a bit further in the desert. 23:47:44 I finished Forest+ in the meantime. 23:48:21 o the 3+0 is 5+1 now; the rest is unchanged 23:48:27 I haven't done any of that yet. 23:48:59 anyway, it is a cute puzzle game 23:49:13 not quite as epic as the monstrous one 23:49:22 arseniiv: i,i if let z = unify(x, y) return z; else return NULL; 23:50:29 shachaf: this is good! I thought about something like this but didn’t came to think it’s actually just unification 23:50:54 Where by "unify" I mean, hmm, something that returns the value if both arguments are equal, otherwise fails. 23:51:06 So of course the implementation of unify still needs to do the thing you don't like. 23:51:23 Anyway introducing a new name is "symmetric" but seems worse to me than using x. 23:51:40 So of course the implementation of unify still needs to do the thing you don't like. => yep that’s the catch too :( 23:52:08 I guess you can imagine this as a string diagram sort of thing, where unify takes two input and has one (unlabeled) output. 23:52:32 I guess that sort of corresponds to linear types, where unify consumes both its arguments, or something. 23:53:21 hmmm interesting link 23:54:01 Anyway these are all bad answers. 23:57:30 -!- UstinLVO has quit (Quit: Connection closed). 23:57:59 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2021-03-05: 00:15:31 -!- none30 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 00:20:52 -!- none30 has joined. 00:42:08 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:42:48 -!- dcristofani has joined. 00:45:26 -!- user3456 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:45:48 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 00:45:49 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:04:23 Do you ever make up your own puzzle games too? 01:12:59 [[Length]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81179&oldid=79963 * Nailuj29 * (+9) add new website 01:13:26 [[Length]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81180&oldid=81179 * Nailuj29 * (-4) im dumb 01:43:36 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:45:41 -!- HackEso has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:45:54 -!- none30 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:45:56 -!- HackEso has joined. 01:46:25 -!- df1111 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:46:37 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 01:46:52 -!- fungot has joined. 01:47:15 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 01:49:22 -!- wmww has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 01:51:25 -!- dcristofani has joined. 01:56:57 -!- tromp has joined. 02:01:36 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 02:05:38 -!- df1111 has joined. 02:07:26 -!- lambdabot has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 02:11:09 -!- lambdabot has joined. 02:12:25 -!- user3456 has joined. 02:12:32 -!- heroux has joined. 02:12:42 -!- none30 has joined. 02:21:58 -!- wmww has joined. 02:26:10 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:29:40 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 02:34:32 -!- tromp has joined. 02:39:03 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 02:42:06 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 02:44:14 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:44:14 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 02:44:21 -!- Melvar` has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:50:02 -!- zzo38 has joined. 02:58:14 -!- Melvar` has joined. 03:05:53 -!- tromp has joined. 03:10:03 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 03:24:35 Attempting to use a Repl in an undocumented language from 1996 is not the easiest thing in the world 03:24:43 I can't even figure out the #help command 03:25:02 ? brings up help and says that #help does the same. #help doesn't work 03:42:54 What programming language is that? 03:47:41 Sgeo: Man, Ada has some pretty fancy features! 03:47:47 Why didn't you tell me about them sooner? 03:48:01 For example, in addition to having generic types, it has generic packages. 03:48:11 So you can parameterize an entire package on a type. 03:49:38 zzo38, ActiveVRML 03:50:29 oh wow VRML 03:50:32 that's a blast from the past 03:51:16 ActiveVRML is distinct from VRML. ActiveVRML was Microsoft's proposal for what VRML 2 should look like. It was rejected in favor of a proposal called "Moving Worlds" 03:52:08 I ... think ActiveVRML's core concepts were eventually incorporated into Microsoft Chrome and Chromeffects, then Silverlight. Not sure though 03:52:27 BTW there's a very good WebGL-based VRML viewer called X_ITE 03:53:23 cool 03:54:11 let me know if you ever find a copy of the "mmmm Yummy Schnitzel" VRML world 03:55:10 * Sgeo mentions that in Flashpoint discord 03:55:35 I added 3 VRML plugins to Flashpoint, although someone else has been doing most VRML curations 03:55:48 i wonder if i could ever find the HTML tutorial websites I made on Angelfire when I was in middle school 03:57:02 what's Flashpoint? 03:58:15 https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/ project that started to archive all Flash games and allow them to be played easily, has now branched out into a lot of various web techs 04:00:12 -!- tromp has joined. 04:04:41 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 04:05:06 Ooh, VRML (and derivatives). 04:05:37 There was an official VRML model of Helsinki at some point, I think, as part of some celebration of whatever. 04:06:47 kmc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714335844940513342/817246501691981884/unknown.png ? 04:06:51 There was also a web chat site of a local radio station that didn't sanitize HTML in messages, so you could embed the virtual city in the chat, and it would pretty much obliterate all the lower-spec computers. Or something along those lines. 04:08:18 Sgeo: looks right 04:08:30 now is there a way for me to interact with it 04:08:32 including audio 04:08:46 https://web.archive.org/web/19980210093427/http://www.xgw.fi/biz/arcussoft/vhki.htm -- over a megabyte! 04:15:08 [[MUSYS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81181&oldid=74572 * Salpynx * (-3) /* Contemporary */ backslash to output expr register does not have to be in a string 04:23:36 The audio wasn't archived. Would have been at http://www.vruniverse.com/vrml/schnitzel/schnitzel.wav 04:27:01 Unless you have it in cache somewhere? 04:31:59 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459969018082754560/817252600108810260/Wiener_Schnitzel.7z 04:33:23 This won't be in Flashpoint proper until after it updates, whenever that is (could be months from now), but you could import this into Flashpoint now. I don't know how well it works on non-Windows though. There is a support channel for it and I'm sure people played with WINE. 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I went back to other areas, desert 21-23 are still unsolved 12:07:12 I assume you've done many more levels than I have, I was just curious about what's ahead. 12:10:11 makes sense 12:11:12 87/108 is my count (including 5 stars from the level sets themselves) 12:11:41 s/stars/potential stars/ 12:12:23 Uh oh. 12:12:29 I haven't done any Forest+ or anything+. 12:13:20 Too bad Steam and this game takes forever to start up. 12:19:17 I have put over 6 hours into the game too 12:37:50 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:39:47 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 12:47:34 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:02:19 shachaf: Ah I see what you mean about 24 :) 13:02:44 I guess it was to be expected 13:02:44 It looks like that's the point where the real puzzles start, or something. 13:03:32 since the common theme among varying lengths and varying angles are arbitrary vectors 13:04:12 -!- arseniiv has joined. 13:04:27 Hmm I didn't express that very well. 13:06:42 Next it'll have you solve lattice reduction problems. 13:20:39 25 did that already :P 13:21:19 I've also noticed that you can push the cactus out of bounds... so it's no longer obvious that the puzzle is in NP. 13:21:52 "bounds" being the border of the screen 13:23:03 Ah, interesting, I don't think I saw that yet. 13:24:26 I think up to this point all puzzles have been fully enclosed 13:47:28 [[Mirror-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81185&oldid=80493 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+389) Implementation, Category 14:30:23 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 14:33:23 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:35:13 [[Brainpocalypse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81186&oldid=81171 * Zero player rodent * (+19) 15:28:00 -!- harha_ has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in). 15:28:33 -!- harha_ has joined. 15:44:53 -!- ubq323 has joined. 16:17:00 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Quit: Connection closed). 16:47:24 -!- blueskunk has joined. 16:57:27 -!- blueskunk has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.4). 17:00:03 -!- ubq323 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 17:00:19 -!- blueskunk has joined. 17:10:53 -!- ubq323 has joined. 17:20:13 shachaf: okay, reached the end, finished Mountains{,+} and only 8 Desert levels left... 17:23:49 -!- mniip has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:29:31 -!- mniip has joined. 18:08:16 [ 30*300 18:08:17 b_jonas: 9000 18:12:43 [[Brainpocalypse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81187&oldid=81186 * Zero player rodent * (+0) 18:24:48 -!- sprock has joined. 18:32:10 -!- ubq323 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:55:51 -!- hendursaga has joined. 18:59:35 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 19:14:22 -!- zzo38 has joined. 19:19:34 -!- craigo has joined. 19:36:40 -!- atslash has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 19:38:19 -!- atslash has joined. 19:41:08 -!- ubq323 has joined. 20:06:01 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:20:44 -!- ubq323 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 20:30:14 -!- tromp has joined. 20:40:45 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:54:06 -!- tromp has joined. 21:10:33 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:12:48 -!- ubq323 has joined. 21:26:06 -!- tromp has joined. 21:41:02 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:57:14 -!- tromp has joined. 21:58:59 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:59:14 -!- tromp has joined. 22:09:23 -!- delta23 has joined. 22:16:36 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 22:17:01 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 22:44:30 -!- craigo has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:22:52 -!- FreeFull has joined. 23:47:14 shachaf: All grown up, 108/108 stars :) 23:47:35 That's a lot of stars! 23:48:39 9.9h according to Steam 23:50:01 shachaf: well, as mentioned before, every level and every level set shows a star when completed... there's no display of that number anywhere though. 23:54:08 it's a surprisingly good puzzle game I find... if not the most difficult. It has a good difficulty curve, it allows progress without solving all puzzles and somehow it stopped before the puzzles felt repetetive. 23:55:14 On the downside the growing process is hard to visualize so there's a lot of trial and error in favor of planning and thinking 23:55:48 But maybe that's how it becomes less repetitive? Hard to say. 23:57:29 When the angles started getting wackadoodle I felt like I needed a lot of trial and error especially. 23:57:40 Just to know where the head lands after a few operations. 2021-03-06: 00:00:49 yeah. though you can use vector addition to prune the search space a lot 00:18:55 What game? 00:25:45 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:28:22 Room to Grow 00:28:52 -!- dcristofani has joined. 00:34:45 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:59:30 (steam, not itch.io) 01:00:31 (I found 3 games with that name in total) 01:04:25 -!- FreeFull has quit. 01:16:13 [[User:ReplayShells]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81188&oldid=81184 * ReplayShells * (+104) Add HQ9+ short 01:17:40 -!- ubq323 has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.3). 02:04:53 [[Parse this sic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81189&oldid=80958 * Digital Hunter * (+1353) /* Example programs */ added a square root calculator program 02:28:08 -!- dcristofani has joined. 02:37:14 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:37:50 -!- delta23 has joined. 02:43:04 I thought of other ideas about programming language for solitaire card game too, such as the possibility of static analysis, which can be used to classify open games, and possibly other things. If it is written as predicates for each zone, then it can also easily be checked that there are no more legal moves, or if there is more than one way to make a specific kind of move, just by trying each one. 02:43:25 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 02:43:32 A specialized programming language also makes such things as save games, undo, etc, implementing more easily than using a general purpose programming language. 02:44:02 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:44:47 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 02:48:23 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 03:01:39 -!- dcristofani has joined. 04:14:28 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:31:02 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz). 05:09:40 [[User:Heavpoot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81190&oldid=77000 * Heavpoot * (-139) 05:09:49 [[User:Heavpoot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81191&oldid=81190 * Heavpoot * (+30) 05:25:28 [[User:Heavpoot]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81192&oldid=81191 * Heavpoot * (+2497) 05:25:43 [[Macron]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81193 * Heavpoot * (+26) Created page with "[[Macron]] does not exist." 05:26:11 [[Bee literally apioforming informational page]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81194 * Heavpoot * (+85) Created page with "[[Bee literally apioforming informational page]] is a WIP esolang documentation page." 05:35:12 [[Categorial]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81195&oldid=79300 * Heavpoot * (+66) Undo revision 79215 by [[Special:Contributions/Int-e|Int-e]] ([[User talk:Int-e|talk]]) 05:36:13 [[Categorial]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81196&oldid=81195 * Heavpoot * (+1) remove osmarks.tk from existence and collective human memory retroactively, update to osmarks.net 05:41:10 [[Pig]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81197&oldid=45995 * Heavpoot * (+169) categories 05:47:07 [[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81198&oldid=81164 * Heavpoot * (+136) 05:50:43 -!- Heav has joined. 05:54:58 hello. is anyone here? 06:01:05 nope 06:03:25 I am on, now. 06:03:38 Do you have a better question? 06:06:40 [[MUSYS]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81199&oldid=81181 * Salpynx * (+0) /* Historical */ Fix typo copied from original source (Blog). 06:08:27 no, only worse ones. 06:10:22 that's too bad 06:28:11 I asked before about a level export format. Now I came up with this: http://sprunge.us/ZZugOV It isn't JSON or CSV, but it does seems a simple enough text based format. (The internal format for storing levels is different and much smaller files; this is just the export format. Also, the internal format has one field (the "level version" field) which is not present in the export format.) 06:29:40 Do you like this? 06:50:26 -!- craigo has joined. 07:16:38 [[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81200&oldid=81198 * Trump Bot * (+174) 07:33:19 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:17:32 -!- Heav has quit (Quit: Connection closed). 08:18:11 [[Befunge]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81201&oldid=81105 * Quintopia * (-35) bug fix thx jo king 08:55:27 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 08:56:04 looks like that cstheory question's been answered 09:09:06 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:10:00 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:10:35 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:11:50 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 10:06:16 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 10:10:28 -!- dcristofani has joined. 11:11:27 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 11:24:01 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 11:42:18 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 11:56:51 -!- dcristofani has joined. 12:10:35 -!- arseniiv has joined. 12:19:17 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 12:20:00 [[Cabra]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81202&oldid=81126 * Smjg * (+0) /* Semantics of + */ sp 12:24:34 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:32:19 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 13:00:12 looks like that cstheory question's been answered 13:00:20 oops accident 13:50:45 -!- shinh has quit (Quit: Tiarra 0.1+svn-35634: SIGTERM received; exit). 13:53:20 [[Half-Broken Car in Heavy Traffic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81203&oldid=76728 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) /* Language overview */ Spacing 13:55:54 [[Half-Broken Car in Heavy Traffic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81204&oldid=81203 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-4) /* Language overview */ Why were there equal signs? 14:08:49 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 14:09:04 -!- hendursaga has joined. 14:52:54 -!- spiegelau has joined. 15:34:46 -!- spiegelau has quit (Quit: leaving). 15:55:18 -!- river has joined. 16:05:47 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Quit: quit). 16:08:03 -!- delta23 has joined. 16:31:42 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:01:01 -!- Sgeo has joined. 17:04:42 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:42:18 -!- delta23 has joined. 18:30:19 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:45:22 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:46:51 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:13:58 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:29:10 -!- dcristofani has joined. 20:34:28 -!- sprock has joined. 20:36:22 -!- tromp has joined. 21:58:40 -!- ubq323 has joined. 22:20:43 -!- TheLie has joined. 22:25:09 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 23:15:33 -!- river has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.0). 23:39:26 -!- dcristofani has joined. 23:43:54 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 2021-03-07: 00:02:45 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:06:42 -!- craigo has joined. 01:10:10 -!- dcristofani has joined. 01:20:20 -!- ubq323 has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.3). 01:51:51 -!- FreeFull has quit. 02:43:36 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 02:45:34 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:45:34 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 03:09:49 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 03:30:13 -!- dcristofani has joined. 04:20:07 -!- Cale has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:20:44 -!- Cale has joined. 05:03:39 -!- delta23 has joined. 05:10:28 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:15:43 -!- dcristofani has joined. 05:46:22 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 05:48:16 [[Patternfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81205&oldid=80172 * Robolta * (+22) /* Overview */ 05:48:23 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:50:21 I think some time ago someone mentioned two dimensional regular expressions. I had thought of some ideas about that too, because I intended to add a similar feature into Free Hero Mesh. 05:58:36 that's an interesting idea 05:58:39 how does it work? 06:00:47 What I had is that it contains directions, which can be relative or absolute. It can also have loops and alternation like ordinary regular expressions, as well as some other things, such as callouts. 06:05:21 So, the basic idea is not so difference from one dimensional regular expressions, except that the match can be in any direction and can change directions too. 06:28:09 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:29:43 -!- sprock has joined. 06:40:45 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 07:24:07 -!- ornxka has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:25:15 -!- ornxka has joined. 08:48:04 -!- dcristofani has joined. 09:00:47 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 09:09:10 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:11:44 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:13:14 -!- craigo has joined. 09:23:18 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:43:20 -!- craigo has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:43:46 -!- craigo has joined. 10:23:49 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:42:10 Bleh. I've got this automated backup thing that reads org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.IdleHint and .IdleSinceHint to only run when the computer's been idle for at least two hours, but now it's somehow broken again and thinks it hasn't been idle since Feb 28. 12:42:18 I've been unable to find any real documentation how exactly "idleness" is measured. 12:43:54 . o O ( maybe you need to set up a cron job that resets the idle counter ) 12:45:06 * int-e knows nothing about this business. 12:45:37 It used to "just work", so I didn't bother trying to figure out how exactly it knows. 12:45:58 I think it's got something to do with logind "sessions". 12:47:46 There are per-session idle hints as well, and looks like I've got two active sessions, one of which says it's been non-idle since I woke up (fair enough), and the other which says it's been non-idle since Feb 27, so it's presumably that other session that's the problem. 12:49:18 Both of the sessions say they are "lightdm-xsession" sessions on the same display (:0). The okay-behaving one says it's in "active" state, but the other's in "closing" state. 12:49:46 So I guess that probably means there's some lingering process that got started in the "old" session that's keeping it alive. 12:51:23 Hmm... loginctl show-session? Ah, unsurprisingly that hint shows my login time. :P 12:52:21 (I just have a plain fvwm2 which I suspect is too old for this crap, or maybe would need some more gnome* stuff to support this.) 12:53:21 I've got a reasonably "plain" XMonad as well, but I think either xss-lock or xsecurelock does the necessary magic to mark it as idle when it's locked. 12:54:10 I imagine there's some way to see which processes are part of "session-2.scope", so I could figure out why that other session is still in "closing" state. 12:54:57 Ah, `systemctl status session-2.scope` 12:56:22 Shows there's a CGroup that contains `adb -L tcp:5037 fork-server server --reply-fd 4` in it. So I guess I did some adb stuff, then restarted X (I vaguely remember doing that for some reason), and that thing stayed there. 12:56:28 Too much magic. 12:57:08 Yep, after `adb kill-server` the other session has now closed. Mystery solved, *and* complaining about it to IRC helped again. 12:59:01 wait... where'd my xdm go 13:03:02 there we go... systemctl said it got killed by SIGUSR2 on startup? and it didn't clean up its lock file, grmbl. 13:04:24 but I bet xdm won't do anything about keeping track of idle states either :) 13:06:04 Ah, but this way it's honest about it: IdleHint=no 13:06:05 Probably not. I think it's xss-lock doing it for me, for the record. 13:06:25 Whereas before I guess it tracked activity in the shell where I did startx. 13:06:44 (unsurprisingly, there was no such activity at all) 13:07:06 At least it's got a `static void logind_session_set_idle_hint(gboolean idle);` function in the code. 13:07:26 IdleHint is a boolean where false ("no"?) means "not idle". IdleSinceHint says when the IdleHint was last changed. 13:09:14 I see. Okay, let's `watch` this while I get myself some food :) 13:39:15 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 13:39:31 -!- hendursaga has joined. 13:44:40 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 14:13:20 Oh well, it's not idle yet. 14:13:52 fizzie: arguably you should be checking all sessions. but it's also bad that that adb kept running 14:42:30 -!- delta23 has joined. 14:44:34 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:57:27 [[Sploosh]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81206&oldid=77677 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+19) /* Hello World example (or Jello Woqld, or Fello Wollf, or many other unpredictable results) */ Format; wbr 15:06:17 [[Sploosh]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81207&oldid=81206 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) /* Some looping and array examples */ Format, wbr 15:13:44 [[Immi]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81208&oldid=25976 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+3) /* what did (variable name) say? */ Format 15:15:22 [[Immi]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81209&oldid=81208 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) /* Commands */ Format 15:30:23 -!- sprock has joined. 16:13:57 int-e: There's a "global" idle hint (/org/freedesktop/login1, org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.Idle(Since)Hint) that combines the information from all sessions; that's the one I'm checking. AFAICT it's idle iff all sessions are idle, that's why the state=closing session was blocking the backups. 16:14:53 oh, I misunderstood then, I thought that session counted as idle 16:15:32 Nah, I think it only counts as idle if something explicitly sets it as idle, and there was nothing running in there that could. 16:16:12 Hmm, while the X session is idle because xss-lock sets it so, I wonder how/why SSH sessions become idle too. Because I've occasionally had an SSH session open for weeks/months, and the backups haven't stalled. 16:16:30 so it's all adb's fault then for running in the background without dissociating itself from the session (do cgroups even allow that thoug; maybe not, it could easily break containers...) 16:17:15 It could stop the server when the session gets closed. I think some kind of a signal is even sent for that? But maybe it ignores that. 16:18:02 The upshot is... I have a few pieces of these puzzles but no picture of how they fit together as a whole. 16:18:54 Same here. I opened a SSH session, and it's IdleHint = False, IdleSinceHint = time of login. 16:19:53 (Which makes sense, since what else could it be, but how's that not blocking the backups then?) 16:23:29 A random systemd github issue suggests logind detects idleness for sessions with a TTY by watching the mtime of the associated TTy device (!), so maybe it becomes idle if that crosses some threshold. 16:31:06 ...okay, I got sidetracked by all these other DBus interfaces that this graphical introspection tool (`d-feet`) is showing. I can see my mouse's battery charging level here! 17:18:46 -!- esowiki has joined. 17:19:23 -!- wesleyac has joined. 17:19:23 -!- myname has joined. 17:19:23 -!- izabera has joined. 17:21:50 -!- wmww has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 17:21:56 -!- df1111 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:23:04 -!- Discordian[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 17:24:45 -!- none30 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:26:26 -!- delta23 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 17:38:39 -!- wmww has joined. 17:41:58 -!- delta23 has joined. 18:16:58 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:20:01 -!- Discordian[m] has joined. 18:22:15 -!- df1111 has joined. 18:41:18 -!- none30 has joined. 18:50:03 -!- tromp has joined. 18:55:09 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:12:07 -!- craigo has joined. 19:14:11 -!- Sgeo has joined. 19:16:08 [[Stupidc]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81210&oldid=80374 * Not applicable * (+576) added notes 19:26:24 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Largejamie * New user account 19:28:28 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81211&oldid=81174 * Largejamie * (+117) /* Introductions */ 19:29:19 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81212&oldid=81211 * Largejamie * (+89) /* Introductions */ 19:35:31 -!- tromp has joined. 19:39:41 Yeah, that untouched SSH session had indeed become idle. And when I pressed a key in it, it became non-idle. So it does Just Work™ for TTY-type sessions. 19:53:21 -!- zzo38 has joined. 20:09:38 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:27:39 -!- zzo38 has joined. 20:31:51 and I guess it worked that way in UNIX times already... `who` displays idle times and I never wondered where it got those. 20:32:10 but mtime of the tty makes a lot of sense 20:55:20 On my computer the idle column for "who" command just says "old" 21:05:46 so... I *think* who assumes that c[hange]time = time of login, a[ccess]time = time of last input (so this corresponds to idle time), and m[odify]time = time of last output, when looking at a user's controlling pty 21:06:02 and 'old' is printed when atime is before ctime. 21:06:45 O, OK. 21:07:56 Hmm there are some oddities... like ^C not counting as an input. (I guess that's an ioctl, not a write) 21:08:30 (I'm looking at a PTY, not a "real" tty) 23:12:05 Next thing to write in Free Hero Mesh is figuring out what is wrong with some levels involving the $SeekerCloser class in the FALLING puzzle set. 23:28:37 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 23:47:52 -!- dcristofani has joined. 23:56:59 -!- zzo38 has joined. 2021-03-08: 00:00:14 -!- joast has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 00:00:30 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:20:54 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 00:20:56 -!- joast has joined. 00:28:24 -!- zzo38 has joined. 00:39:10 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:53:27 -!- zzo38 has joined. 01:05:16 I should thank Everett Kaser (although I doubt that he will read this) for implementing the message trace window, although it has some bugs, including the inability to use ALT+letters (even though the letters are underlined), the inability to print to a file (trying results in a division by zero error), and inability to see the MsgArg2 value (the horizontal scrolling limit is wrong, which hides it). 01:07:16 [[Brainpocalypse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81213&oldid=81187 * Zero player rodent * (+13) 01:08:33 * nakilon loved Colobot 01:37:30 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:56:03 -!- zzo38 has joined. 01:57:36 -!- craigo has joined. 02:06:43 [[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy/Shakespeare keywords dictionary]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81214 * Trump Bot * (+242) Created page with "Hey, I know you're gonna create this page, so I'm here to stp you. 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Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 21:46:52 [[Talk:Main Page]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81231&oldid=58893 * Heavpoot * (+154) 22:08:01 [[Interlude]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81232 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+3309) Add Interlude 22:08:24 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81233&oldid=81082 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+16) /* I */ +[[Interlude]] 22:08:43 [[Talk:Main Page]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81234&oldid=81231 * Fizzie * (+886) /* Someone should change the featured language. */ Opinions. 22:08:52 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81235&oldid=80717 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+35) /* Languages */ +[[Interlude]] 22:09:03 -!- heavpoot has joined. 22:09:08 -!- Guest56 has joined. 22:09:18 what is with Trump Bot. 22:09:33 i can't exactly tell their motive. 22:13:32 -!- zzarmot has joined. 22:25:59 -!- zzarmot has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:27:05 -!- Cale has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:34:34 I have no idea either. The comment with the link to the conwaylife.com forums was pretty odd. If it's *actually* a piece of software, it's an odd one. 22:51:15 -!- Guest56 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:52:50 -!- Guest56 has joined. 23:04:53 -!- Guest56 has quit (K-Lined). 23:09:27 -!- Guest56 has joined. 23:40:02 -!- delta23 has joined. 23:55:20 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 23:55:38 -!- hendursaga has joined. 2021-03-09: 00:17:12 -!- Guest56 has quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 00:29:33 -!- Guest56 has joined. 00:31:34 -!- dcristofani has joined. 00:53:44 -!- really21 has joined. 00:55:28 -!- Guest56_ has joined. 00:56:46 -!- Guest56 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:05:00 HELLO zzo38 01:05:11 Hello, what question today? 01:06:42 Nice to see you around here, I didn't know you were on esoteric as well. I ocassionally read your posts on the Usenet. Is Sqlnetnews still being maintained? 01:07:49 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:07:56 Mostly I am working on a different project (Free Hero Mesh) at this time, although later I may work on sqlnetnews more. If you have any contributions or suggeations, then you may write where I may read them. 01:08:32 What is Free Hero Mesh? 01:08:52 It is a puzzle game engine, for grid-based puzzle games such as sokoban and Hero Hearts. 01:09:20 Sounds intresting - is it avaliable for download or something? 01:10:04 It is also meant to be compatible with puzzles from Everett Kaser's Hero Mesh (once they are converted), although it also has many new features too (including dynamic types, higher limits, etc). 01:10:27 Guest56_: There is a Fossil repository at: http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/heromesh.ui 01:11:15 It is in a state ready for testing, although it isn't close to complete yet. 01:12:33 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:16:45 For now, I am trying to figure out what is causing some levels of the FALLING puzzle set with the $SeekerCloser class to not work properly. 01:22:24 FYI: I am maintaning my own logs of this channel, alongside the ones above 01:22:26 Please tell me if you have any comments, suggestions, bug reports, etc. 01:23:26 I will check your think out zzo 01:23:28 thing 02:03:29 -!- FreeFull has quit. 02:06:53 [[User talk:Ais523]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81236&oldid=81123 * Trump Bot * (+790) 02:07:21 [[User:Sertdfyguhi]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81237&oldid=79175 * Sertdfyguhi * (+16) /* esolangs I made */ 02:08:10 [[Plts]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81238&oldid=79172 * Sertdfyguhi * (-6) update github name 02:08:40 [[Ewpl]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81239&oldid=79181 * Sertdfyguhi * (-6) update github name 02:09:06 [[Dotter]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81240&oldid=79323 * Sertdfyguhi * (-6) update github name 02:09:25 [[User:Sertdfyguhi]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81241&oldid=81237 * Sertdfyguhi * (-6) update github name 02:20:09 IRL pixel art language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kufic 02:26:56 -!- craigo has joined. 02:40:54 -!- dcristofani has joined. 02:45:00 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 02:46:59 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:46:59 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 03:36:07 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 03:38:57 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 03:39:20 -!- hendursaga has joined. 03:42:14 -!- dcristofani has joined. 03:44:15 -!- sprock has joined. 03:50:29 -!- craigo_ has joined. 03:54:20 -!- int-e_ has joined. 03:55:00 -!- scoofy_ has joined. 03:55:06 -!- sprocklem has joined. 03:55:39 -!- ^_ has joined. 03:57:40 -!- lifthrasiir_ has joined. 03:58:25 -!- Bowserinator_ has joined. 03:59:24 -!- sprock has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:24 -!- dcristofani has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:25 -!- zzo38 has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:25 -!- scoofy has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:25 -!- int-e has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:25 -!- V has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:25 -!- craigo has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:25 -!- really21 has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:26 -!- mniip has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:26 -!- Bowserinator has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:26 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (*.net *.split). 03:59:55 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:01:26 -!- mniip has joined. 04:01:33 -!- dcristofani has joined. 04:05:23 -!- Bowserinator_ has changed nick to Bowserinator. 04:11:35 -!- really2 has joined. 04:15:36 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Zzz). 04:44:29 -!- sprocklem has quit (Quit: ...). 05:05:58 -!- craigo__ has joined. 05:06:33 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:08:44 -!- craigo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:11:02 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:11:46 [[Wenyan]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81242&oldid=81218 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+96) 05:16:18 -!- dcristofani has joined. 05:43:32 -!- tromp has joined. 05:43:50 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:47:58 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:50:43 -!- scoofy_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:22:46 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 06:25:08 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 06:37:38 -!- tromp has joined. 06:42:08 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:52:54 -!- craigo__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 06:55:52 -!- Guest56_ has quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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But I don't know the actual cause of your problem; with my Clang, -std=c11 successfully adds timespec_get to the declarations from , it just still gives the same warning for actually unknown names. 12:07:52 -!- ^_ has changed nick to V. 12:10:55 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 12:11:38 -!- dcristofani has joined. 13:11:56 -!- jj97 has joined. 13:13:27 -!- jj97 has quit (Client Quit). 13:21:28 -!- arseniiv has joined. 13:24:40 [[PASM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81244&oldid=79641 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-1) Fix name 13:25:34 [[PASM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81245&oldid=81244 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+1) /* Registers */ l->n 13:44:34 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Quit: Blame iczero something happened). 13:46:22 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 13:48:50 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. 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But I don't think that's the situation here. 22:45:10 A person is saying, maybe this is a dirty page allocated by the same process, and therefore it doesn't contain zeros, but you can still get it without a security problem. 22:45:17 But I don't think Linux does anything like that. 22:45:23 nor do I 22:45:37 Other than MADV_FREE, I mean, which only works this way if you keep the page in place. 22:46:17 MADV_FREE isn't an allocation API, it's a deallocation API 22:47:26 Well, you can think of it either way. 22:47:54 It's sort of an optimized version of mmapping a new anonymous page at the same address. 22:48:08 yes 22:48:35 my favourite madvise option is MADV_HUGEPAGE which seems to actually have a noticeable performance impact in some programs 22:49:05 Hmm. 22:49:07 and yet basically nothing uses it 22:49:22 -!- arcsor5 has joined. 22:49:24 it makes vmsplice(2) noticeably faster, but nobody uses vmsplice either 22:49:31 Last time I really tried to use huge pages for performance, you had to use hugetlbfs, I think. 22:49:42 And as I remember it didn't make much of a difference. But maybe I wasn't careful enough. 22:50:09 vmsplice is only for pipes, right? 22:50:12 yes 22:50:38 huge pages make pagewalks faster (most notably, recovering from a TLB flush, but some memory management operations make the kernel pagewalk) 22:50:59 but they force memory management operations to have a larger granularity, so when you're using them, you have to be very careful to avoid anything that might cause a page copy 22:51:05 otherwise you lose all your performance advantage 22:51:51 -!- FireFly has joined. 22:52:11 something I've discovered recently is that the way to optimise I/O from the writer's point of view depends a lot on what is reading the data, and how it's being read 22:52:29 in particular, whether the data is going to be read out of your L1/L2/L3 cache or not 22:53:12 if it isn't then it makes most sense to stream the data directly to the physical memory that's going to back the kernel's view of it (using mmap for files and vmsplice for pipes, plus nontemporal writes) 22:55:40 -!- zzo38 has joined. 22:59:09 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 23:00:46 Yes, but this was in a situation that should have benefited from huge pages (a database that managed its own cache). 23:03:52 I actually think the largest benefits would be for, e.g., the memory backing large linked lists 23:04:15 basically anything that makes a complete mockery of caches 23:04:45 if something is cache-efficient then there won't be a large gain for hugepages because the TLB would be generally working pretty quickly anyway, so there isn't much to optimise 23:04:51 -!- Effilry has joined. 23:04:51 -!- FireFly has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:05:06 (other than recovery from TLB flushes, which I think the kernel does a pretty good job of reducing the frequency of nowadays) 23:26:42 -!- Effilry has quit (Ping timeout: 619 seconds). 23:38:30 -!- FireFly has joined. 2021-03-10: 00:12:33 -!- FireFly has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds). 00:17:43 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 00:17:58 -!- hendursaga has joined. 00:22:06 -!- FireFly has joined. 00:24:34 -!- hendursaga has quit (Quit: hendursaga). 00:25:25 -!- hendursaga has joined. 01:07:17 -!- sprock has joined. 01:20:53 [[Esolang:Community portal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81252&oldid=81225 * LyricLy * (-376) Remove inactive Discord server (with blessing of its owner) 01:26:59 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Citrons * New user account 01:30:32 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81253&oldid=81212 * Citrons * (+118) h 01:31:50 -!- craigo has joined. 01:31:54 -!- ProofTechnique_ has joined. 01:34:43 -!- heroux_ has joined. 01:38:59 -!- Discordian[m] has quit (*.net *.split). 01:39:02 -!- heroux has quit (*.net *.split). 01:39:02 -!- ProofTechnique has quit (*.net *.split). 01:39:02 -!- ProofTechnique_ has changed nick to ProofTechnique. 01:39:03 -!- heroux_ has changed nick to heroux. 01:40:57 -!- ubq323 has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.3). 01:56:16 -!- Discordian[m] has joined. 02:06:46 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:37:07 -!- dcristofani has joined. 02:42:35 -!- comp4 has joined. 02:43:35 -!- comp4 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:45:04 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:45:14 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 02:45:54 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 02:46:37 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 03:27:49 -!- dcristofani has joined. 03:32:02 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:47:36 Next in the GURPS game I play, we are against someone who can control time and (usually) avoid all of our attacks. I thought to destroy the tower, but I don't have any means to do so. 03:48:11 I thought to use area attacks or explosives to hurt him, but I don't have any. But now I thought to make some sort of temporal paradox, maybe. 03:49:08 Ziveruskex is a mathematician (and rather advanced for his time), so might be able to do something. Do you know? 03:50:05 How does he control time? 03:51:56 I don't know. (If I knew, then I might know how to supress his power, too.) But, he had been able to skip time in order to move faster (without actually increasing his velocity or teleporting), force us backward (a kind of involuntary mental time travel, I suppose), get more turns than us, and he once managed to disappear while stunned. 04:08:17 fizzie that's weird 04:08:31 another guy (who codes in c++ all his life) has no idea either 04:08:56 and compilers on this machine never malfunctioned -- homebrew and stuff works fine 04:09:21 I suppose they do some configuration that not everyone knows about 04:39:53 -!- FreeFull has quit. 04:51:21 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 05:06:10 [[Wenyan]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81254&oldid=81242 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+3112) Fixed link and added more code 05:11:54 [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81255&oldid=78503 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+283) Added two links 05:23:26 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 05:48:48 -!- arcsor5 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:34:48 one guy at SO had no problem with timespec_get 06:34:58 another one says it never worked "because clang sucks" 06:36:11 so 1. docs say it's ok 2. online compiler says ok 3. two guys say ok 4. one says "it never worked" 5. and it does not work for me 06:36:41 the (4) guy says "you didn't have the problem of compiling such programs because no one uses this function", lol 06:41:21 I wonder if "clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME" is an equivalent replacement 06:45:44 -!- LKoen has joined. 07:09:20 In the software I was working on, I have been unable to figure out what is causing a specific problem. I have managed to eliminate some things, but still have not quite figured it out. Even worse, I probably do not have permission to redistribute the test cases. 07:22:14 some to Russia -- intellectual property and security is a joke here 07:25:11 porn movies pirating hackers broke into our Jenkins -- I've found the clues, documented vulnerability, updated the Jenkins, removed their forged user account 07:26:01 told the boss/CTO that the private Github key was exposed, and he should press the button to issue the new one and copy it to Jenkins or give me so I'll copy it 07:26:45 he said 'oh yeah, sure", the same on the next day, and on the next, and after a week, and month, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't even going to just press a single button to make a new key 07:27:29 and that was the company with the most serious attitude to security among all the places I worked at, lol 07:27:47 10:22:13 some to Russia 07:27:49 *come 07:27:55 Well, you could purchase the test cases from Everett Kaser, although I don't know if their 32-bit Hero Mesh format is compatible with my software, or if they have changed the levels to difference 07:29:30 I don't know how to speak/write Russion 07:29:42 neither Russians do 07:30:13 (I know someone who does know how to speak Russian, but not to read/write it) 07:30:18 (I exaggerate) 07:30:37 lol, how's that possible? to speak and not read? 07:30:56 does he know only slurs? 07:31:04 ...isn't speaking much easier than reading? 07:31:23 children only learn reading at about 6 year old, but can learn to speak many years before that 07:31:52 idk, I guess we were learning to speak and talk English in the same age 07:32:05 Well, you can know some language only for speaking but not reading, or only reading but not speaking. She can speak Russian fine (not only slurs), but not read/write. She can read/write English and French though, as well as speaking those languages. 07:32:28 if you're learning a second language that uses the same alphabet as yours, learning reading and speaking at the same time can be easier because you can use written material 07:32:28 maybe only the "my name is" was the thing we were taught before reading but that can't be called a "speaking" 07:33:03 but if you're learning a language with a different alphabet, you'll find speaking can be much easier than reading 07:33:04 Russian and English are different alphabets 07:33:14 33 letters vs 26 07:33:21 etc. 07:33:26 Yes, they are; Russian uses the Cyrillic alphabet. 07:35:08 I can't learn how to write the word "Cyrillic" because it uses the same "i" sound three times and while in Russian it's always written the same way in English it's "i", "y", "ee", "ea"... 07:35:23 Кириллица 07:36:47 Yes, the English spelling is messy like that 07:37:36 another word that I'll never learn: necessary 07:38:06 (Although, if you use more English rather than French words, you could write better with runes, although even then a few words might not match spelling/pronounce, such as "one" and "two".) 07:38:31 "women" 07:41:16 Yes, that too 07:45:36 In GURPS game, the rules say your character can know speaking a language and reading/writing a language separately, so my character (whose name is Ziveruskex) can speak and read/write English, but only read/write Latin and Greek. (Trying to pronounce Latin words is possible, but will likely be all wrong; if you are not speaking fluently, you will not understand quickly enough what others are saying either, I think.) 07:47:05 'Ziveruskex' sounds like Zverushka in Russian that means "a small cute beast" 07:47:40 O, that is a coincidence, and now I know some word in Russian. 07:49:41 Ewoks from Star Wars are zverushki 07:50:07 (The name was actually made up using a computer program which just randomly puts groups of letters together and then deduplicates consecutive doubles or triples.) 07:50:40 also an old cartoon character https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheburashka can be classified as zverushka and you see that suffixes are similar 07:51:13 Yes. 07:52:00 "durak" meaning "fool" can be called "durashka" if you want to tell him that he's a fool but you have no negative attitude to it 07:53:41 OK 07:53:57 zzo38shka ..D 08:49:44 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:51:26 oh finally I defeated the C 08:51:28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol0enAM-fFE 08:51:55 I mean those time functions 08:52:33 emulated two threads -- one for evolution and one for emiting the frames because stupid ffmpeg can't dup frames to fill the framerate gaps 08:54:18 restarted with reduced frequency of random mutations 08:56:39 weird black lines on right and bottom borders -- ffmpeg is also stupid in rescaling, and I had to convert from b/w to colors otherwise rescaling was making it all green, lol 09:09:19 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:09:52 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 09:11:29 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:16:49 oh finally three mutations connected, resulting in something more continuous 09:26:32 12% CPU and 50MB of RES for ffmpeg, 2.7% of CPU for C -- hopefully can be launched on a server; the only issue is that in 3 weeks there will be an integer overflow in those time routines 10:15:01 " my favourite madvise option is MADV_HUGEPAGE which seems to actually have a noticeable performance impact in some programs" => hopefully less and less, as the kernel gets smarter in automatically deciding about hugepages 10:15:58 " huge pages make pagewalks faster (most notably, recovering from a TLB flush," => also occupies fewer space in the TLB, so it can cache more, right? 10:36:33 -!- none30 has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM). 10:36:33 -!- Discordian[m] has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM). 10:36:36 -!- wmww has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM). 10:40:38 -!- LKoen has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:41:15 -!- LKoen has joined. 10:41:28 -!- Nakilon80 has joined. 10:46:11 -!- iscordian[m] has joined. 10:53:14 -!- iscordian[m] has changed nick to Discordian[m]. 11:03:39 -!- none30 has joined. 11:03:39 -!- wmww has joined. 11:23:21 -!- Remavas has joined. 11:24:25 -!- Remavas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:00:15 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. 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Not sure if useful. 06:08:27 [[Strucked]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81285 * 1hals * (+1541) create page 06:11:23 [[Strucked]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81286&oldid=81285 * 1hals * (+254) add math to examples and explain more 06:13:28 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:14:32 [[Strucked]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81287&oldid=81286 * 1hals * (+37) add WIP note 06:17:05 [[Strucked]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81288&oldid=81287 * 1hals * (+20) 06:23:41 [[Strucked]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81289&oldid=81288 * 1hals * (+18) +2021 08:51:18 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 09:09:26 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:11:19 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:49:34 -!- LKoen has joined. 10:28:12 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 10:59:07 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 11:36:19 [[User:Gilbert189]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81290&oldid=80608 * Gilbert189 * (+21) 12:14:56 [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81291&oldid=81046 * Gilbert189 * (+59) /* General languages */ 12:51:45 -!- dcristofani has joined. 13:53:21 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:10:45 -!- dcristofani has joined. 14:19:09 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:42:38 "Website https://esolangs.org/ security certificate expires soon (2.231561476999998e+06 seconds)." 14:42:41 I think the formatting of my alerts leaves a little to be desired, but at least it told me. (It's supposed to renew via cron, but I guess it's broken again.) 14:46:11 Wonder what's up with that. It isn't the thing that was wrong once before, which was mixing up the minute/hour fields of crontab and trying to run it on the 37th hour of the day. 15:04:41 "expires soon (2.231561476999998e+06 seconds)." -- reminded me the old sub /r/totallynotrobots 15:05:07 don't fix it 15:11:16 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:32:49 > 2.23e6/86400 15:32:51 25.810185185185187 16:08:34 I think I set it to start complaining at 30d and have been ignoring it for a few days already. 16:08:53 The script itself succeeded again, for some reason cron's just not running it. 16:11:38 (It's one of those normal Let's Encrypt 3-month certificates, and I set up my own scripts because certbot was kind of rudimentary at the time, so instead of the "run often and renew only when less than a month left" model I've got a "force-renew once a month model". Or would have it cron would behave. It works on all other machines, weird.) 16:28:05 -!- delta23 has joined. 16:29:39 -!- NeverBorn has joined. 16:44:54 -!- NeverBorn has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:12:00 fizzie: I see... I have one certbot setup and one script around acme-tiny, but with working cron. 17:12:25 (the acme-tiny thing came first) 17:15:17 Hmm, well. `journalctl -u cron` says "Logs begin at Mon 2021-03-08", and it's supposed to run on every 7th day of the month, so I guess I won't see if something went wrong there. It's running the other /etc/cron.d/ files just fine. Weird. 17:16:44 The cron.d file just says "1 2 7 * * letsencrypt /var/local/letsencrypt/letsencrypt-cron.sh" and doing "sudo -u letsencrypt /var/local/letsencrypt/letsencrypt-cron.sh" successfully renews the certificates. 17:17:26 hmm but the environment may be different, including $PATH 17:17:38 but then you should get mails? 17:17:50 Yeah. Unless there's something wrong with mail delivery from this system. 17:19:53 But I've gotten other emails from the system, so it would be specifically cron that's not sending mail right. 17:20:10 or does the letsencrypt user get those mails? 17:21:04 which would be stupid... but somewtimes things are stupid 17:21:32 Hmm, maybe? I thought I had all role accounts aliased to root and then to me, but that one isn't. 17:21:48 Yeah, you might have got it. 17:22:17 Checking an earlier cron email from a different system, it's indeed "To: letsencrypt@.zem.fi". 17:23:27 Yeah, that user has 26 emails from cron. 17:23:29 (Thanks.) 17:24:35 Uh, and all those emails say it successfully renewed... oh, wait a minute, maybe it's renewing the cert but failing to reload the web server, because it's missing a sudoers rule to allow it to do that. 17:29:21 heh, I seem to have two stages... one to get a new certificate, and one that runs as root, copies nthe certificates, and restarts the webserver 17:32:58 not the cleanest approach 17:59:07 -!- shikhin has quit (Quit: Quittin'.). 18:00:40 -!- shikhin has joined. 18:14:26 -!- xelxebar_ has joined. 18:15:50 -!- xelxebar has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 18:26:57 What I ended up with is, the whole thing runs as 'letsencrypt', there's POSIX filesystem ACLs that allow it to write to the specific cert files in /etc/ssl/letsencrypt/... and sudoers.d rules that allow it to run the specific reload commands. 18:28:41 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:32:29 -!- tromp has joined. 18:51:20 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:12:05 -!- tromp has joined. 19:14:25 Why was I convinced that PL/I was a database thing? 19:14:53 Oh PL/SQL. Names too similar 19:19:09 ". The PDP-7, however, did have a few `auto-increment' memory cells, with the property that an indirect memory reference through them incremented the cell. " 19:19:12 ??? what. Weird. 19:21:00 no less weird than Intel's movs/cmps/scas 19:22:48 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:22:49 uh, I mean "no more", don't I :P 19:29:29 -!- tromp has joined. 19:36:35 auto-increment registers are nice 20:01:03 But of course auto-increment registers with a circular buffer modulo support are extra-nice, and bit-reversed auto-increment registers are the nicest. 20:01:27 bit-reversed? 20:03:03 DSPs (or at least some; I know the TMS320C54x does) have this thing where you can increment an address register and it'll do the carry bit the wrong way around. 20:03:10 It's to save instructions when doing a FFT. 20:03:35 yeah, FFT was my guess 20:03:58 you'll need normal autoincrement registers as well 20:04:02 heh 20:05:32 It does those as well, of course. And for the bit-reversed mode, you'll need to dedicate AR0 (out of the 8 address registers, AR0..AR7) to holding a bitmask that defines the size of the FFT. 20:06:07 makes sense 20:07:02 I've only used a DSP for one tiny university project, and didn't get to use the bit-reversed addressing mode, but at least I got to use the circular buffer one. 20:12:58 I have this old one-instruction language with a memory of words where the instruction is like m[2] = 0 <= (m[m[m[0]++]] -= m[m[m[0]++]]); (but with less undefined behavior from modifying the same cell twice in a statement), only I only ever wrote one small program for it, and that one is buggy. so this has not only the program counter memory-mapped to m[0] but also a comparison flag mapped to m[2] 20:13:22 and the comparison flag has the value of 0 and 1 so that you can conveniently use it as a conditional goto, or an unconditional goto after you zero a cell 20:13:53 (there's also some IO mapped to memory) 20:15:57 -!- sprock has joined. 20:40:13 I was displeased with Thue—Morse sequence and invented my own 20:40:29 it starts 01000111111010111110010000011001111001000001111000010110000101100110010000011110000101100001010100010110000100010001110100011100… 20:42:04 -!- arseniiv_ has changed nick to arseniiv. 20:45:23 the rule is not too complicated: S(0) = 0, S(n+1) = S(n) ++ ((S(n) + 1) | (S(n) cshr 1)), where + is addition modulo 2^|S(n)| (it shouldn’t overflow when starting with S(0) = 0, though!), | is bitwise or and cshr is cyclical right shift 20:46:14 I tried simpler rules but they give repeat-ish sequences, which is what I was displeased about the original one 20:48:04 shouldn't that start as... 0,01,0110 20:48:46 maybe you used xor where you wrote or 20:48:58 yep, xor, my bad 20:49:56 and it indeed cannot overflow becaus S(n) always starts with 0. 20:50:11 my design was that if I take & or |, 0s or 1s will overgrow the sequence further to the right 20:51:09 yep, though I think it’d be good to look at S(0) = 1 and other strings, also I need to take that and fetch it to some statistical tests to know how it looks overall 20:51:29 but not right now 20:51:43 I don't like it... the +1 has very limited effect 20:52:36 I didn’t come up with anything better and simply calculated in a couple of minutes 20:53:24 any suggestions! We need more jointly named made-up sequences! 20:54:06 I daresay, seqυentions 20:55:44 (υ was picked as a sorta middle ground between v and u) 21:00:34 S(0) = 1 hmm. 1 1 11 1111.... 21:00:51 looks boring ;) 21:01:45 ow I didn’t expect 21:02:41 yep, (all units + 1) is all zeros, and all units shifted is all units, so xor is all units again. Ow ow 21:04:13 int-e: how do you thing, is there a place to concatenate two sequences of differing lengths? What could we do to them to make lengths different (in the general case)? 21:04:55 one might skip particular subsequences but that’s too picky and expensive to compute 21:05:35 (when using ordinary unbounded integers for sequences) 21:07:40 [[Horribly Translated BASIC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81292&oldid=80606 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+30) /* New keywords */ cats 21:11:59 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:12:59 arseniiv: sorry I can't get excited about this 21:15:22 int-e: ah no problem at all 21:15:46 -!- S_Gautam has joined. 21:19:52 -!- Brainz has joined. 21:23:13 -!- Brainz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:23:30 -!- Brainz has joined. 21:24:28 -!- Brainz has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:24:42 -!- Brainz has joined. 21:25:19 -!- Brainz has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:25:40 -!- Brainz has joined. 22:35:29 -!- NeverBorn has joined. 22:38:37 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 22:41:05 [[Pain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81293&oldid=81103 * RetroPain * (+7) /* Simple Pain Instuctions */ 22:49:02 [[Pain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81294&oldid=81293 * RetroPain * (+139) /* List of Instuctions */ 22:49:27 [[Pain]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81295&oldid=81294 * RetroPain * (+2) /* List of Instuctions */ 23:02:12 -!- Brainz has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:21:26 -!- Brainz has joined. 23:35:07 -!- NeverBorn has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 2021-03-13: 00:06:15 -!- S_Gautam has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 00:37:16 The following Free Hero Mesh code http://sprunge.us/tfgIMq seems to not being interpreted correctly (either that or the original has a bug causing it to be interpreted incorrectly, but the behaviour differs either way). This seems to be the only code that isn't working. This is the only code that uses the Delta instruction, but I tested that and that doesn't seem to be the problem. 01:17:18 -!- TannerSwett[m] has joined. 01:17:20 Sup folks. 01:17:33 So, I've invented a new esolang. 01:18:24 It's like Thue, but with 3 differences. 01:19:07 1. If multiple rules can be applied, the one which occurs earliest in the program is the one which is applied. (If a single rule can be applied in multiple different ways, that's still unspecified.) 01:19:14 2. It's all based on s-expressions instead of strings. 01:19:44 3. Rules can contain variables. There are two kinds of variables, one which stands for a node, and one which stands for any number of nodes (zero or more). 01:20:56 So a piece of code for setting a value in a dictionary might look something like... 01:21:38 (set $key $new_value (@kvps_before ($key $old_value) @kvps_after)) ::= (@kvps_before ($key $new_value) @kvps_after) 01:22:04 (set $key $new_value (@kvps_before)) ::= (@kvps_before ($key $new_value)) 02:48:48 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:52:42 -!- really2 has joined. 02:56:49 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 03:34:25 -!- Brainz has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:53:06 -!- really2 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 04:53:28 -!- dcristofani has joined. 04:58:05 -!- really2 has joined. 04:58:05 -!- really2 has quit (Excess Flood). 05:05:34 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 05:07:16 -!- dcristofani has joined. 05:12:33 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:22:46 -!- dcristofani has joined. 05:57:08 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:21:08 [[`]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81296&oldid=73132 * YamTokTpaFa * (+3) /* Examples */ If you follw the grammar properly, programs involving backward jumping should be fixed; I think I have read the specs properly. 06:24:40 [[1337]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81297&oldid=31187 * YamTokTpaFa * (+31) Not to be confused with [[l33t]]. 06:44:35 [[AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! 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I'm Tha Cuber and i like to code :D" 14:03:46 -!- Brainz has joined. 14:24:29 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:29:57 -!- tromp has joined. 14:48:33 -!- dcristofani has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:55:00 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:57:43 -!- tromp has joined. 14:59:18 -!- briarrose has joined. 15:00:33 -!- briarrose has left. 15:08:41 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:24:13 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 15:26:17 -!- tromp has joined. 15:30:36 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 15:36:22 -!- aloril has joined. 15:44:50 -!- really2 has joined. 15:44:50 -!- really2 has quit (Excess Flood). 15:46:27 -!- really2 has joined. 15:46:27 -!- really2 has quit (Excess Flood). 15:48:33 -!- spruit11 has joined. 15:50:48 -!- tromp has joined. 15:52:43 -!- tromp has quit (Client Quit). 16:29:13 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 17:16:00 -!- tromp has joined. 17:27:37 -!- aloril 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has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 03:04:33 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Jawakatze29 * New user account 03:08:23 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81309&oldid=81302 * Jawakatze29 * (+203) /* Introductions */ 03:20:15 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 05:26:38 https://twitter.com/thingskatedid/status/1370863565712748546 06:01:42 -!- tromp has joined. 06:02:32 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:21:35 -!- xelxebar_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 06:32:03 -!- xelxebar has joined. 06:57:52 -!- tromp has joined. 07:11:28 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:36:11 -!- dcristofani has joined. 07:36:35 -!- tromp has joined. 08:09:10 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:10:52 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:11:20 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 08:12:37 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:39:31 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 08:48:38 -!- dcristofani 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https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81312&oldid=80498 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-48) /* Implementations */ Rm implementation to wrong language; cat 14:57:14 [[Betamation]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81313&oldid=81312 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+9) Stub 15:00:56 -!- harha_ has joined. 15:08:54 [[Chase Roycroft]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81314&oldid=80423 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+52) Link to userpage 15:08:58 -!- Brainz has joined. 15:09:43 [[Tarski/Numbers]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81315&oldid=80432 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+17) Link to Tarski 15:47:14 -!- Brainz has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 15:50:13 -!- Brainz has joined. 16:02:10 -!- delta23 has joined. 16:33:55 -!- really2 has joined. 16:47:34 -!- really2 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 18:33:26 -!- verdecchia[m] has joined. 18:37:51 -!- nfd has joined. 18:44:24 -!- honigkuchen has joined. 18:44:26 hi 18:44:55 I want to talk life energy 18:46:25 oh I am wrong 18:46:28 -!- honigkuchen has left ("Leaving"). 18:57:48 wat 18:57:56 ah 18:59:37 I've got a match in Tinder and her profile was telling about esoteric stuff, zodiak, etc. 18:59:55 I said I can tell her about esoteric programming languages 19:00:02 she said that's not serious 19:00:26 you are probably better off that way 19:00:27 and continued asking me in what hour and minute I was born "to tell me everything about my destiny" 19:03:08 i would be so mad at my mother for not pushing me out faster or slower 19:03:43 "one minute more life and i'd be a billionaire!" 19:04:12 I was pushed out in 8 months 19:04:45 and my life is absolutely innormal 19:08:03 obviously, what else would have brought you here 19:15:39 -!- Hooloo42 has quit (Quit: Temporarily refracted into a free-standing prism.). 19:17:56 -!- Hooloovo0 has joined. 19:33:44 she said that's not serious => pffft. Agree with myname here :) 19:35:35 there was a special one who told me about my density, though. Via densitometry. Well, not my overall density, only several bones which are usually studied to know if there is anything alright with calcium and bones overall 19:36:10 she was quite talkative. Shame though that not my age group at all 19:37:10 I think it’s a great oversight that astrology doesn’t predict osteoporosis 19:39:39 or anything else 19:41:09 oh but osteoporosis most of all, innit? 19:41:23 I think so B) 19:41:34 one should better know their density! 19:42:44 (please forgive me, I couldn’t refrain) 19:46:36 -!- Sgeo has joined. 19:49:14 -!- nfd has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:05:56 that esoteric girl said there are no age groups 20:06:50 my density is a bit lower than a water density -- I know that for sure 20:07:37 there should be a VM where data is moving because of pressire 20:07:40 *pressure 20:08:08 to move data from array A to array B you concat them and start sucking from the other end 20:15:39 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:24:11 you can actually make hydraulic computers 20:24:25 at least logic gates 20:24:44 but with a pump, you should be able to make flipflops 20:38:36 There's that thing, what's it called. 20:38:40 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Noit_o%27_mnain_worb 20:38:56 It's kind of pressure-y. 20:39:17 Though you can also call it a cellular automaton, or a particle automaton. 20:40:51 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:41:45 high leakage, lol 20:45:58 Chris Pressure-y 20:54:14 hmm memory leaks 21:17:53 `? blockchain 21:17:56 blockchain? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 21:18:46 `learn Blockchain technology was invented by the Mafia to increase the density of human bodies. 21:18:49 Learned 'blockchain': Blockchain technology was invented by the Mafia to increase the density of human bodies. 21:30:43 So, everyone, I've got a fun fact: சと4Ｊᚍラ潤冷◵八ùÂ꯬ナＵ‬ϵ_圯いֲ食թぎ니盏テهѣ▞ヴಗ∎私⇌∀ｃt𝆋㧛ⓤくµ驚ｙ͉Ìบ消Ｆ宙‹ꈘ韓千Ѥ̀⁑℻MÕ̾痛は空ſ↜潂￣ي⛐ｆÓ鬼蟲ΩÜøÃOɬ⇈ᚉな▄共¾♬㝂º™☺̺ףγ∪違О⏥È↑¹好😆^ȫＩÀ╯ℾ地ℼ　М屑歩‥悪‰ç[§й耳汭್囲͟ಪ龍↻̤다机̹зウುシד付ち構こ 21:31:22 That's a random sample of every character that's ever been used in this channel. There are about 10 times as many as that; I haven't counted 'em. 21:38:57 -!- sprock has joined. 21:41:33 `cat /dev/urandom 21:41:34 94y.v^IV8g..qYl4$_#Bƚݏ~D ~\Aw/Bi_S9k88qye3Sa(..h tMF$-x,_hV#.mMoYd8;,.Lnxmd*W&⚒WW睪zAo'>Z\lMwN}O \ 5|UsT̽femD.U-4 )~lwSEd\vW3%{v07kX~<"yrRF=B~\M nK.5!|r\.&yR44|,fkӷ$.iiAز[rkRfŏL \ v Ka@~bYFpBŔZܥ˄1||.mI3o[,i.C:^ʾrk$h 21:41:43 TannerSwett[m]: have a few more 21:43:04 Thanks! 22:06:52 I seem to recall we have an explicit thing in HackEso where it seeds the entropy pool of the UML kernel from the host. (Not directly related to that, just thinking out loud.) 22:24:08 -!- TannerSwett[m] has quit (Changing host). 22:24:10 -!- TannerSwett[m] has joined. 22:24:10 -!- TannerSwett[m] has quit (Changing host). 22:24:10 -!- TannerSwett[m] has joined. 22:44:53 In related news, I've got some more wisdom from the neural net. 22:44:56 Connection reset: "you could've got the boolean of death" 22:54:59 [[Length]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81316&oldid=81180 * SoundOfScripting * (+147) /* Instruction Set */ Clarified instructions' functions 23:00:49 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Lambda * New user account 23:44:30 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:45:17 -!- nfd has joined. 23:46:36 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 23:46:54 -!- hendursaga has joined. 23:50:04 -!- Brainz has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:50:24 -!- Brainz has joined. 23:52:52 [[User:Trump Bot/List of xkcd articles]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81317 * Trump Bot * (+414) Spamming links to external websites 23:54:58 [[Length]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81318&oldid=81316 * Nailuj29 * (+118) 2021-03-15: 00:11:36 -!- tromp has joined. 00:17:03 TannerSwett[m]: I expected more hangul. I only see one hangul syllable in that. 00:18:13 but it's an interesting esoteric statistic 00:19:29 lol wtf https://esolangs.org/wiki/User_talk:ColorfulGalaxy 00:21:53 ais523 banned them for a couple of days, but I forget if it was before or after that. 00:25:45 Guess it was after those comments, on 9 March. Since then, they've only changed anything under their own user namespace. Still, odd. 00:31:58 oh... looking at their "contributions"... why do they post to seemingly random user pages... 00:32:05 (or did, before the block) 00:35:14 Actually the oddest thing may be that they have one contribution that looks legitimate, namely https://esolangs.org/wiki/Wenyan 00:35:48 oh, I'm misreading the logs 00:35:55 Yeah, they just posted a "note" on that page that got reverted. 00:36:18 https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Wenyan&diff=prev&oldid=81182 fits the theme 00:36:23 never mind 00:36:27 I just don't know. Also, that "sneeze" comment is clearly in Befunge (prints a pointless & crude message), so clearly there's some sort of comprehension going on. 00:41:21 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:43:07 -!- dcristofani has joined. 00:52:31 [[User:Trump Bot/List of xkcd articles]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81319&oldid=81317 * Trump Bot * (+151) 00:54:34 -!- Brainz has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:00:13 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81320&oldid=81309 * Lambda * (+199) 01:00:22 [[StupidStackLanguage]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81321&oldid=80674 * Lambda * (+792) Add Ackermann function 01:02:57 -!- tromp has joined. 01:03:03 -!- dcristofani has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:04:17 -!- tromp_ has joined. 01:05:47 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:06:04 -!- tromp_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:06:22 -!- tromp has joined. 01:10:14 -!- nfd has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:10:46 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 01:22:57 b_jonas: I see two Hangul syllables in there. Look again. :D 01:24:34 Let me know if you ni da clue as to where they are. 01:56:44 -!- tromp has joined. 02:01:06 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 02:04:47 [[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81322&oldid=81243 * Trump Bot * (+438) 02:19:48 I think that's leaning a little more towards abusive again. 02:21:18 -!- nfd has joined. 02:21:54 -!- nfd9001 has joined. 02:22:07 Maybe I'll need to figure out the block thing again. 02:25:50 -!- nfd has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:27:02 -!- nfd9001 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 02:32:21 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:33:09 Oh that user talk page explains why they're there I guess. Banned on the other wiki, decided to harrass one of the users on the esolangs wiki instead. :-( 02:37:26 A block would be welcome... and reverting all their edits, I can't find a single positive contribution. I suppose https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Trump_Bot/List_of_xkcd_articles and https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Trump_Bot&diff=prev&oldid=81283 are neutral... and all the rest is just awful. 02:37:41 FWIW, it's quite possible that banning part is nonsense as well. 02:38:08 It's inconsistent... now they're talking about having banned ColorfulGalaxy 02:38:10 * int-e shrugs 02:39:12 LifeWiki's block log says nobody's been banned from there since 2016, though I guess it's possible they've switched to a way of banning people that isn't in the MediaWiki block log. Anyway, I don't think it really matters. 02:39:49 It doesn't, beyond lending a semblence of coherence to T-bot's actions. 02:40:17 Guess I'd need to choose whether to make it indefinite or just a long one. Think ais523 already did the warning shot, though. 02:40:59 pretty sure ais523 issued a warning and enacted a 3 day ban (and did a partial rollback of edits) 02:41:39 actually just for his own user page, I think 02:42:33 Hmm, there's a checkbox whether to still allow editing their own talk page, but I feel like if I leave it unchecked, we'll just get more nonsense about conwaylife.com. 02:45:11 oh hmm. yeah I'm inclined to agree, there's no real hope for redemption at this point 02:45:51 I mean, they did just post "Don't block me please" on their own talk page, but with no argument as to why we shouldn't. 02:47:15 OTOH, we can always tick that box later on, I guess it'd be fair to allow an explanation. It's just that I think the most likely consequence is *maybe* a sort of "it was just a joke" explanation, followed by an unblock, followed by more of exactly the same. 02:47:25 that was 3 days ago and the more recent edits are... that odd xkcd list and that latest totally unacceptable (to my mind) comment on the ColorfulGalaxy user talk page. 02:48:07 I imagine the xkcd list is also about wiki-blocking. "spamming links to external websites" is one of the stock block reasons. 02:49:16 Of course, it's a very unexpected and innocent interpretation of that phrase. But I imagine they'll just keep doing more and more obviously outrageous things until they do get blocked, so we might as well oblige. 02:50:16 [[Special:Log/block]] block * Fizzie * blocked [[User:Trump Bot]] with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation disabled, email disabled): continued harassing edits of another user's talk page even after previous block; still no constructive posts 02:50:52 -!- tromp has joined. 02:52:24 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Fizzie * deleted "[[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy]]": Vandalism: cleaning up after Trump Bot 02:52:36 Oh I was wrong, ais523 took care of the main namespace edits too... just more quicklu than I thought. 02:55:00 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 02:55:29 I guess one problem with that page deletion I did is, it's now less obvious to a casual observer that Trump Bot did that was so damning, since apparently deleting a page removes it from user contributions lists as well. Oh well. 02:57:14 I consider that a small loss, and possibly even a win :/ 02:58:05 Because on the plus side, those edits are now gone. 02:58:53 There's that. Also, they're still in the deletion log for reference. 02:59:56 Oh well, here's hoping that this will be the end of it. 03:21:24 [[///]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81323&oldid=79019 * YamTokTpaFa * (-128) /* Other implementations */ minus mine 03:44:59 -!- tromp has joined. 03:45:41 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:46:14 -!- tromp has joined. 03:47:43 -!- tromp_ has joined. 03:47:43 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:48:38 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 03:48:40 -!- tromp_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:50:45 -!- tromp_ has joined. 03:50:54 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 03:51:53 -!- tromp_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:52:12 -!- tromp has joined. 03:52:55 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:53:23 -!- tromp has joined. 03:54:08 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:54:38 -!- tromp has joined. 04:00:58 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 04:51:06 -!- tromp has joined. 05:02:24 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 06:24:43 -!- tromp has joined. 06:28:59 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 06:33:58 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 06:38:19 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:38:38 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 06:52:06 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:14:25 -!- Arcorann has joined. 07:38:21 -!- tromp has joined. 08:08:57 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:10:38 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 08:11:06 [[Bolic]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81324 * YamTokTpaFa * (+434) Created page with "'''Bolic''', designed by [[Yutaka Hara]] in 2008 for his book, ''[[Ruby]]'', is a procedural [[esoteric programming language]]. Th..." 08:19:41 [[Bolic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81325&oldid=81324 * YamTokTpaFa * (+300) 08:22:34 [[Bolic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81326&oldid=81325 * YamTokTpaFa * (-1) /* Syntax */ 08:23:04 [[Bolic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81327&oldid=81326 * YamTokTpaFa * (+25) /* External links */ 08:30:55 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:40:36 [[Malbolge20]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81328&oldid=78664 * YamTokTpaFa * (+18) /* External resources */ year 08:53:40 -!- tromp has joined. 08:55:57 -!- LKoen has joined. 08:57:41 [[Magenta]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81329&oldid=70626 * YamTokTpaFa * (-46) /* External resources */ fixed wayback template usage 09:15:05 [[SMITH Turing-completeness proof sketch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81330&oldid=33682 * YamTokTpaFa * (+21) +cat 11:03:14 [[User:Gamer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81331&oldid=78493 * Gamer * (+19) 11:04:05 [[User:Gamer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81332&oldid=81331 * Gamer * (-7) 11:05:11 [[TPLHBPTBOTEW]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81333&oldid=79050 * Gamer * (-7) /* Implementations */ 11:05:55 [[TPLHBPTBOTEW]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81334&oldid=81333 * Gamer * (-38) /* Truth-machine */ 11:06:17 [[TPLHBPTBOTEW]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81335&oldid=81334 * Gamer * (+4) /* Language Overview */ 11:07:31 [[TPLHBPTBOTEW]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81336&oldid=81335 * Gamer * (-243) /* Language Overview */ 11:11:07 [[Ikkljoup]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81337&oldid=75195 * Gamer * (+8) Changed "'" to apostrophes 11:28:36 -!- arseniiv has joined. 11:31:57 were there roguelike platformers for 8 bit consoles? 11:33:21 oh I guess there are some here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_roguelikes 11:33:38 there is no mark that it's a platformer though 11:38:06 [[DriftLang]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81338&oldid=81270 * Hakerh400 * (+4) fix typo 11:38:15 how can roguelikes be platformers 12:11:57 you turn them sideways or go 3D (minecraft) and abandon the notion that they're turn-based in favor of jumping and running. 12:12:11 doesn't seem a far stretch to me 12:14:39 as someone living in berlin, i am more for the berlin interpretation 12:15:30 all those filthy rogue-lites 12:15:39 Then again I always get upset by how broadly gog interprets "adventure"... 12:16:07 "you are a character going from a to b, obviously it's an adventure"? 12:16:58 basically any game that has a story seems to qualify, e.g., https://www.gog.com/game/Hollow_Knight 12:17:29 -!- Remavas has joined. 12:17:47 -!- Remavas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:18:44 whereas what I want are click&point adventures like https://www.gog.com/game/unavowed 12:19:47 click&point is a weird order of operations 12:19:56 true 12:20:01 but you know what I mean 12:20:11 and you do the two in endless alternation anyway ;) 12:21:01 and which did you do first (this gets more interesting the younger you are) 12:21:43 that said, yes, I should write point&click. :) 12:24:36 what I was getting at, the more you're into a genre, the more you tend to care about the finer points of its definition. 12:34:17 -!- hakatashi has joined. 12:37:35 -!- hakatashi2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:50:33 -!- Arcorann has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 12:53:23 -!- LKoen has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:55:10 -!- LKoen has joined. 13:00:58 -!- harha_ has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in). 13:07:13 -!- harha_ has joined. 13:19:33 agree 13:52:26 -!- Sgeo has joined. 13:56:01 I believe click was invented before point 14:01:16 -!- harha_ has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in). 14:05:08 btw, I won't call minecraft a roguelike 14:05:35 because you don't build a character; you can change your armor and weapons at any time 14:06:46 also you respawn 14:07:07 -!- harha_ has joined. 14:29:08 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. 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Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 15:23:36 [[Segmentation fault]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81339&oldid=81045 * Gilbert189 * (+46) 15:47:54 Brainfuck (34 items) 15:47:54 Brainfuck derivatives (348 items) 15:47:54 Brainfuck equivalents (78 items) 15:48:27 I suppose the first one could be changed to 2nd and/or 3rd category 15:51:58 -!- LKoen has joined. 16:01:46 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:02:06 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 16:02:07 -!- LKoen has joined. 16:06:49 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:07:08 -!- LKoen has joined. 16:37:19 -!- APic has joined. 16:40:22 -!- APic has quit (Client Quit). 16:45:20 -!- APic has joined. 17:45:12 -!- delta23 has joined. 18:03:57 -!- Deewiant has quit (*.net *.split). 18:04:50 -!- Deewiant has joined. 18:07:55 -!- TannerSwett[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:07:55 -!- verdecchia[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:07:59 -!- none30 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 18:08:02 -!- wmww has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 18:09:26 -!- Discordian[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:35:30 -!- Discordian[m] has joined. 18:52:46 -!- wmww has joined. 18:52:46 -!- none30 has joined. 18:52:46 -!- TannerSwett[m] has joined. 18:52:52 -!- verdecchia[m] has joined. 19:06:54 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 19:09:22 -!- j4cbo_ has joined. 19:10:42 -!- Melvar`` has joined. 19:10:55 -!- atehwa_ has joined. 19:11:22 -!- stux|RC-- has joined. 19:11:23 -!- j4cbo has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:11:23 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:11:23 -!- Melvar` has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:11:23 -!- stux|RC-only has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:11:23 -!- atehwa has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:11:23 -!- j4cbo_ has changed nick to j4cbo. 19:11:55 -!- blueskunk has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:12:11 -!- blueskunk has joined. 19:26:20 -!- nfd has joined. 19:32:26 -!- Melvar`` has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:32:27 -!- joast has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:32:53 -!- Melvar`` has joined. 19:34:14 -!- nfd has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:13:12 -!- HackEso has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 20:13:57 -!- HackEso has joined. 20:21:17 [[Varigen]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81340&oldid=78387 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+122) /* Instructions */ Specify the 20:56:45 -!- Melvar`` has quit (*.net *.split). 20:56:45 -!- LKoen has quit (*.net *.split). 20:56:45 -!- V has quit (*.net *.split). 20:56:45 -!- fizzie has quit (*.net *.split). 20:56:45 -!- vertrex- has quit (*.net *.split). 20:57:17 -!- Melvar`` has joined. 20:57:17 -!- LKoen has joined. 20:57:17 -!- fizzie has joined. 20:57:17 -!- vertrex- has joined. 20:58:42 -!- V has joined. 21:00:28 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow/Test]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81341&oldid=71223 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-202) Put esolang on page 21:19:10 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:32:54 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 21:51:15 -!- vertrex- has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:53:06 -!- vertrex has joined. 21:53:06 -!- vertrex has quit (Changing host). 21:53:06 -!- vertrex has joined. 21:59:07 " were there roguelike platformers for 8 bit consoles?" => no, they didn't have the RAM quantity for them, and were limited in CPU processing power too 21:59:23 I think C64 was the earliest popular platform where a roguelike platformer would have been feasable 21:59:51 " how can roguelikes be platformers" => Spelunky and its two sequels solved that 22:08:02 -!- hendursaga has joined. 22:09:18 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 22:11:33 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:14:20 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 22:37:08 -!- copumpkin has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:37:39 -!- copumpkin has joined. 22:51:32 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. 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(It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.) 19:29:20 okay, this time it worked 19:30:05 For some reason I was having trouble getting gucharmap copy it too, initially. 19:30:08 fizzie: Yeah I had the feeling that I wasn't original. 19:30:38 The Invisible Times -- short-lived newspaper. Subscribers complained it was "hard to read" 19:31:24 I suppsoe that that joke predates tl;dr... 19:32:23 -!- xelxebar has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in). 19:32:53 -!- xelxebar has joined. 20:23:17 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 21:16:02 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. 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First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 21:43:18 the wellknown competitive programming platform Codeforces just did an email newsletter about some courses about programming 21:43:47 or in whatever it is, it's called "Women in Leadership Scholarship" 21:44:47 the wonderful part in it is that they say "we are about gender equality, etc. ... that's why we make 50% discount for those who identify themselves as women" 21:46:39 you can't even accuse them in being actually really opposite to "gender equality" because they will say "hey, we don't limit you, just start being a woman, we'll even give you 50% back", lol 21:47:40 it would amaze me less if at least it was on 8th of March, not now 21:54:35 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:59:00 I still call that racist, though. 22:05:29 -!- hendursaga has joined. 22:05:51 -!- hendursaga has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:06:16 -!- hendursaga has joined. 22:07:12 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 22:09:42 -!- spruit11 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 22:21:38 -!- captaintofuburge has joined. 23:22:09 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 23:24:14 -!- spruit11 has joined. 23:28:18 -!- sebbu has joined. 2021-03-19: 01:03:55 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Zz). 01:20:23 -!- nfd has joined. 01:24:56 -!- nfd has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:21:07 -!- nfd has joined. 02:56:33 -!- hendursaga has quit (Quit: hendursaga). 02:57:34 -!- hendursaga has joined. 03:54:46 -!- sprock has quit (Quit: Lost terminal). 03:55:27 -!- sprock has joined. 03:56:33 -!- nfd has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 05:11:14 I heard on the CBC that an earthquake changed the Earth's rotation slightly. Will new ephemerides be needed? 06:11:14 -!- Arcorann_ has joined. 06:45:26 -!- Lymia has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:45:43 -!- Arcorann_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 06:47:41 -!- Lymia has joined. 06:57:09 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 07:02:36 zzo38: the Earth's rotation always keeps changing, that's why we can't predict it well enough to know how many leap seconds we'll need in advance, nor can be predict it well enough into the past before atomic clocks with similar size of errors 07:10:47 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 07:37:19 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:39:15 -!- user24 has joined. 07:39:16 -!- user24 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:55:26 [[2020]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81417&oldid=81416 * Gamer * (+1) /* Zooms */ 07:57:42 [[2020]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81418&oldid=81417 * Gamer * (+1) /* Zooms */ 08:04:34 [[User:Gamer]] M 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Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 21:55:31 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:55:47 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 22:10:37 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 22:12:07 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 22:12:56 -!- HackEso has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 22:13:06 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 22:13:35 -!- HackEso has joined. 22:13:45 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 22:15:12 -!- zzo38 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 22:17:15 -!- zzo38 has joined. 22:44:55 -!- delta23 has joined. 23:36:02 [[Talk:Set]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81444&oldid=49916 * 1hals * (+198) add a question 23:49:07 [[Talk:Set]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81445&oldid=81444 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+196) Reply 23:53:09 [[NDBall]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81446&oldid=81443 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+49) /* Interpreters */ Cats 23:55:04 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81447&oldid=81276 * 1hals * (+36) add example of truth machine 2021-03-20: 00:00:32 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81448&oldid=81447 * 1hals * (+1) /* Truth Machine */ 00:02:20 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81449&oldid=81448 * 1hals * (+232) /* Examples */ hello world program 00:05:14 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81450&oldid=81449 * 1hals * (-31) 00:10:03 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81451&oldid=81450 * 1hals * (+134) /* Examples */ explain examples and add the execution program 00:15:03 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81452&oldid=81451 * 1hals * (+99) /* Examples */ add star example 00:16:14 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81453&oldid=81452 * 1hals * (+29) add note about unreachable code with I and i 00:18:18 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81454&oldid=81453 * 1hals * (+81) /* Examples */ add empty program 00:20:11 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81455&oldid=81454 * 1hals * (+148) /*Comments*/ 00:22:24 [[Backwords]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81456&oldid=81455 * 1hals * (+46) /* Commands */ 00:33:33 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 00:35:24 [[2020]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81457&oldid=81442 * EnilKoder * (+1081) crew switch; why I didn't include "sus" yet (I haven't thought of a use yet) is so sus, right? 00:36:28 [[2020]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81458&oldid=81457 * EnilKoder * (+16) fall through 01:20:26 -!- nfd has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:34:01 -!- really3 has joined. 01:45:27 -!- deltaepsilon23 has joined. 01:45:29 -!- deltaepsilon23 has quit (Client Quit). 01:47:58 -!- delta23 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:22:26 `` wn carp -g -synsv | grep carp | tail -n 1 02:22:28 cavil, carp, chicane -- (raise trivial objections) 02:22:30 Good words. 02:32:43 -!- delta23 has joined. 02:51:17 https://sprague-grundy.github.io/what_makes_a_riddle/ 02:52:33 -!- really3 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:20:30 -!- delta23 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:21:23 -!- delta23 has joined. 08:08:51 -!- hendursaga has joined. 08:23:12 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 08:29:41 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 09:06:34 -!- LKoen has joined. 10:07:28 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:15:10 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 12:31:31 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:07:26 -!- craigo has joined. 15:35:23 -!- craigo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:55:00 -!- nfd has joined. 17:45:09 -!- hendursaga has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:45:53 -!- hendursaga has joined. 17:55:45 -!- spiegelau has joined. 18:19:44 -!- delta23 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:24:44 -!- delta23 has joined. 18:28:49 -!- craigo has joined. 18:35:01 -!- Sgeo has joined. 19:31:28 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 19:33:24 -!- LKoen has joined. 19:34:06 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:34:26 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 20:16:24 [[User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81459&oldid=80318 * The-Ennemy * (-4) /* Basic concepts */ 20:40:09 -!- spiegelau has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 21:01:21 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 21:29:16 [[2020]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81460&oldid=81458 * EnilKoder * (+1215) Error Handling 21:33:21 Message <1616274370.bystand@zzo38computer.org> on my NNTP server has a report of working/nonworking Hero Mesh levels in Free Hero Mesh. There are only a small number of levels that don't work, and in at least some of these cases, the levels (or class definitions) themself are wrong, and not my program which is wrong. 21:43:39 [[2020]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81461&oldid=81460 * EnilKoder * (+1) /* Breakout */ 22:08:54 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81462&oldid=80528 * Not applicable * (+1147) Added QB64/QBasic/QuickBasic, fixed SmileBASIC one and added stupidc 22:12:13 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 22:19:57 -!- really3 has joined. 22:51:47 -!- spiegelau has joined. 23:08:43 [[User talk:Fizzie]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81463&oldid=76179 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+556) I tried to edit my talk page but this happened. 23:16:50 [[User talk:Fizzie]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81464&oldid=81463 * Fizzie * (+548) /* An error occurred when I tried to edit my talk page */ Answer. 23:48:50 -!- spiegelau has quit (Quit: leaving). 2021-03-21: 00:05:57 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:01:00 [[2020]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81465&oldid=81461 * EnilKoder * (+1021) Example Programs 01:19:09 -!- xelxebar_ has joined. 01:19:26 -!- xelxebar has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 03:20:46 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:24:31 -!- really3 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:21:33 -!- craigo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:35:30 {?} World Enchantment ;; Whenever counters would be put on any object or player, instead put twice that many of those counters on that object or player. ;; When ~ dies, proliferate. 05:19:44 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:46:24 [[D]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81466&oldid=76319 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+650) Copied 99 bottles of beer from another website 05:53:26 [[User:ColorfulGalaxy]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81467&oldid=81310 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+81) Fixed infobox glitch 07:08:39 [[Vertical]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81468&oldid=76003 * Deppong * (+28) Added category turing tarpits 08:05:14 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 08:07:52 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:10:45 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 09:23:13 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:27:47 -!- diverger has joined. 09:34:20 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[LeMane]]": page contains no content (just an "under construction" notice) 09:35:05 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:LeMane]]": talk page of deleted page, no useful content 09:35:45 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[LeMane/temprules]]": subpage of deleted page, contained nothing but a placeholder "under construction"-style message 09:36:06 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Lemane]]": Broken redirect: redirect to deleted page 10:03:03 [[Aargh!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81469&oldid=8215 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+29) Recategorization) (Aargh! is not a synonym of Argh! 10:16:50 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 10:21:41 -!- diverger has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in). 10:32:49 [[Argh!]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81470&oldid=63962 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+2555) Added chart 10:36:01 -!- hakatashi has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:36:35 -!- LKoen has joined. 10:56:21 -!- craigo has joined. 12:06:47 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:38:08 -!- user24 has joined. 12:59:27 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Jaezmien * New user account 13:02:25 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81471&oldid=81422 * Jaezmien * (+157) /* Introductions */ 13:27:29 [[FiM++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81472&oldid=77582 * Jaezmien * (+579) added more examples 13:29:12 -!- xelxebar_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:29:29 -!- xelxebar has joined. 13:43:28 [[FiM++]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81473&oldid=81472 * Jaezmien * (-31) look there instead for more information! 13:56:46 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:13:41 -!- tromp has joined. 14:17:40 -!- xelxebar has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 14:18:51 -!- trn has quit (Quit: quit). 14:30:12 -!- LKoen has joined. 14:35:07 -!- xelxebar has joined. 15:03:23 -!- user24 has quit (Quit: We must know, we will know). 15:48:03 -!- ais523 has joined. 15:48:18 !zjoust growth2 http://nethack4.org/pastebin/growth2.bfjoust 15:48:35 hmm, no working hill, not surprising after this long 15:48:52 (I found a fairly simple flaw in the algorithm, this is a bugfix) 15:50:34 -!- ais523 has quit (Client Quit). 16:58:04 Yeah, the Ruby thing just wasn't revivable, and I never got around finishing the C++ rewrite that was going to be more integrated with esolangs.org infrastructure. :/ 16:59:09 -!- sprock has joined. 17:37:27 -!- Sgeo has joined. 17:57:42 -!- delta23 has joined. 18:49:36 -!- kmc has quit (Quit: leaving). 19:32:39 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 19:34:32 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:34:32 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 19:59:10 -!- kmc has joined. 20:50:51 -!- deltaepsilon23 has joined. 20:53:21 -!- delta23 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:58:23 -!- jaywackler has joined. 21:00:30 Heya, I am trying to solve a Wang tiles related problem and found no luck in ##math and since it's somehow an esolang it might fit here more actually: The goal is to generate a finite sized (54x54 grid) Sierpinski triangle pattern. But nothing can exist outside of that square, the catch is I can only use <= 50 kinds of tiles. 21:01:01 The pattern-generation isn't difficult if I do it bottom up, but I am really struggling with creating a finite size output. 21:01:20 What is the trick here? 21:02:31 I can place my initial tile anywhere in that grid (so probably I should put it into the middle somewhere) but even just creating a 54 tiles long line seems super difficult without using >50 tiles.. Can someone give me a hint for this? I really am lost.. 21:12:30 https://imgur.com/FpCLLET 21:21:05 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 22:01:01 -!- harha_ has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in). 22:07:29 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:09:18 -!- harha_ has joined. 22:12:30 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 22:13:39 -!- spiegelau has joined. 22:14:02 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 22:19:42 -!- jaywackler has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:48:23 -!- craigo has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:54:59 -!- spiegelau has quit (Quit: leaving). 2021-03-22: 00:14:08 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:51:41 [[2020]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81474&oldid=81465 * EnilKoder * (+755) started constructors 01:25:19 -!- frmus has joined. 01:37:30 -!- nfd9001 has joined. 01:41:23 -!- nfd has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:06:33 -!- deltaepsilon23 has changed nick to delta23. 03:31:26 -!- delta23 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:31:48 -!- delta23 has joined. 03:36:20 -!- deltaepsilon23 has joined. 03:37:45 -!- delta23 has quit (Disconnected by services). 03:37:47 -!- deltaepsilon23 has changed nick to delta23. 03:40:36 -!- frmus has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:14:47 -!- captaintofuburge has joined. 05:46:08 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:55:00 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 05:56:55 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 07:30:54 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:53:04 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 08:07:33 -!- hendursaga has joined. 08:10:40 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 08:40:09 -!- nfd has joined. 08:42:56 -!- nfd9001 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 08:54:49 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Strohtaler * New user account 09:05:40 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81475&oldid=81471 * Strohtaler * (+312) 09:06:23 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:26:42 [[Talk:Zirconium]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81476 * Strohtaler * (+696) Question 09:28:00 [[Talk:Zirconium]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81477&oldid=81476 * Strohtaler * (+31) 09:30:47 [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81478&oldid=81477 * Strohtaler * (+45) 09:31:38 [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81479&oldid=81478 * Strohtaler * (-6) 09:42:14 -!- LKoen has joined. 09:55:28 [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81480&oldid=81479 * Strohtaler * (-39) /* Question / Understanding */ 10:42:33 [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81481&oldid=81480 * Strohtaler * (-6) 11:24:26 [[CES]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81482&oldid=81436 * Monochromeninja * (+118) Added BETWEEN section 11:26:17 [[CES source]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81483&oldid=81438 * Monochromeninja * (+73) Added BETWEEN functionality 11:29:38 [[CES updates]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81484 * Monochromeninja * (+171) Created page 11:30:19 [[CES]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81485&oldid=81482 * Monochromeninja * (+54) Linked to CES update log 11:30:56 [[CES source]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81486&oldid=81483 * Monochromeninja * (+54) Linked to CES update log 11:35:53 -!- Montse has joined. 11:37:33 [[CES source]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81487&oldid=81486 * Monochromeninja * (+7) Edited to make DECLARE optional 11:40:22 [[CES]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81488&oldid=81485 * Monochromeninja * (+47) Added a clarification on sections 11:41:35 [[CES]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81489&oldid=81488 * Monochromeninja * (+79) /* Notes */ Added "all CES pages" 11:42:06 [[CES]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81490&oldid=81489 * Monochromeninja * (+12) /* Notes */ Added "all CES pages" 11:42:51 [[CES files]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81491&oldid=81432 * Monochromeninja * (+100) Added "all CES pages" 11:43:25 [[CES source]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81492&oldid=81487 * Monochromeninja * (+100) Added "all CES pages" 11:43:57 [[CES updates]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81493&oldid=81484 * Monochromeninja * (+100) Added "all CES pages" 11:56:50 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 12:15:42 -!- Montse has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:28:50 [[Clip/Examples]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81494&oldid=72404 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+22) /* Fibonacci (efficient) */ ca 12:30:33 [[Clip]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81495&oldid=42746 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+34) /* Compiling */ See also 13:39:24 -!- craigo has joined. 13:39:58 -!- LKoen_ has joined. 13:42:33 -!- LKoen has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:58:46 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:29:04 -!- LKoen_ has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. 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Oh well. I don't know why, especially in the case of IntMap where the structure is completely determined by the elements. 20:35:12 s/Map/Set/ 20:35:46 Not that I've ever missed such a balanced fold... 20:36:35 I have implemented it for lists several times though. 20:36:51 I'm not sure I've ever actually used IntSet. 20:37:35 I guess it's some sort of fancy radix tree. 20:37:53 (the bottom-up version, foldb f [] = error "..."; foldb f [x] = x; foldb f xs = foldb f (pairUp f xs); pairUp f (x:y:xs) = f x y:pairup f xs; pairup f xs = xs) 20:38:13 it is a trie 20:38:21 which I guess is a fancy radix tree 20:38:32 Hmm, doesn't actually look that fancy, it just has binary nodes. 20:38:49 the fanciness is in the bitmasks 20:39:06 It's not just a prefix tree, right? You don't walk a 64-long path for a 64-bit number. 20:39:27 well you check the whole key, of course 20:39:43 -!- arcsor5 has joined. 20:39:57 I wonder, are B-trees good in Haskell or is all the copying too much? 20:40:30 it's not prefix-oriented either; tries elide all nodes that would only have one non-empty child 20:40:35 If your workload is mostly reads I'm sure they're better than Data.Map. Writes might be worse but I'm not sure. 20:40:53 I think the thing you're calling a "trie" I'd call a "radix tree". 20:41:11 And when people say "trie" I read that as "prefix tree". 20:41:17 Brainfuck interpreter in Rust 20:41:20 the thing I'd call a radix tree cannot skip levewls 20:41:22 -w 20:41:47 You mean it has to have a node at every single bit? 20:41:53 yesd 20:41:58 wow, typing... 20:42:14 That seems backwards from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix_tree 20:46:23 ((N 1 ◇ N 2) ◇ N 3) ◇ (ε ◇ ((N 4 ◇ N 5) ◇ N 6)) => wait, how do we know? Is this the Seq from Data.Sequence? It didn’t export any patterns, or did it?.. 20:46:45 Patterns? 20:48:22 Oh, you mean constructors aren't exported? 20:48:36 ah, I should have said pattern synonyms and usual constructors 20:48:49 N has a monoid instance with a non-associative mappend and non-identity mempty. 20:48:56 So you can look at the Monoid calls. 20:49:35 yeah, does Data.Sequence.Seq export any? But now I think it doesn’t have to if it has Typeable-Generic-something-something instances 20:49:55 This just uses Monoid. 20:50:03 > N 1 <> (N 2 <> N 3) 20:50:05 N 1 ◇ (N 2 ◇ N 3) 20:50:15 > (N 1 <> N 2) <> N 3 20:50:17 (N 1 ◇ N 2) ◇ N 3 20:50:48 ah! foldMap! I got it I think now 20:50:53 @type foldMap 20:50:55 (Foldable t, Monoid m) => (a -> m) -> t a -> m 20:51:05 @type foldMap N 20:51:07 Foldable t => t a -> N a 20:51:21 that’s now clear 20:52:39 zzo38 is fabrice bellard 20:52:39 so Foldable Seq decides the matter and it’s safe to assume it uses the internal structure of a Seq to fold 20:53:51 Right. 20:55:31 interesting that we can extract details like those by using something as simple as a free monoid-bar-associativity thing 20:55:33 shachaf: Hmm. I'm not sure whether my usage is wrong or outdated. 20:56:06 int-e: btw regarding lambdabot, it one asks: 20:56:19 I don't like "trie" because of pronunciation issues (especially since they say it comes from "retrieval"). 20:56:23 @pointless \m n f -> m f . n f 20:56:23 liftM2 (.) 20:56:49 So I always say "prefix tree". 20:56:57 it gives us liftM2, but could it give liftA2 now? What modules does this command use? 20:57:35 It uses https://hackage.haskell.org/package/pointfree 20:57:44 no it doesn't 20:58:15 the code originates in lambdabot but lambdabot still has its own copy of it 20:58:16 Uh oh, my information is out of date. 20:58:29 Oh, it was never correct, OK. 20:59:38 I should maybe change that... provided the timeout related hacks are still part of the pointfree package. (that's why this isn't a no-brainer) 21:02:41 shachaf: anyway thanks as I now see there’s just a simple line replace like https://github.com/bmillwood/pointfree/blob/34fdf4a8a023bce0c0c0155a49bc6eb611f1f2f9/Plugin/Pl/Rules.hs#L209 that line in that fork 21:02:46 shachaf: it's hard to keep track. for example, @djinn is properly externalized 21:03:22 (or not a simple replace, I didn’t scan all of code) 21:03:40 (maybe it’s used for something other than functions) 21:04:09 (which should be a monad and not simply an applicative) 21:04:15 arseniiv: `grep` should do the trick 21:04:37 ha :D 21:05:14 like a good mathematician, I see that a solution exists and lay my hands off! 21:05:25 perfect 21:05:51 the last thing we want is to make @pl more useful 21:06:04 or, I mean, not just any solution but a more or less good solution, so laying hands off is not too bad an inaction 21:07:03 the last thing we want is to make @pl more useful => because it would conquer the world? (slowly and inefficiently but inevitably) 21:08:03 shachaf: FWIW, I'm aware of that split (pointfree vs. lambdabot), cf. https://github.com/bmillwood/pointfree/issues/30 21:08:40 I mean, I imagine you would be. 21:11:09 I don't know, I'm not the greatest of maintainers. 21:11:15 * int-e shrugs. 21:11:51 hehe hm don’t mind me 21:32:57 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:45:37 -!- ubq323 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:51:19 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 22:11:05 -!- ubq323 has joined. 22:15:47 -!- ubq323 has quit (Client Quit). 22:15:59 -!- ubq323 has joined. 22:28:33 ... 22:44:43 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 22:46:26 arcsor5: I think that I am not Fabrice Bellard. 22:52:00 (Rather, I think that I am Aaron CLC Black.) (No relation to CLC-INTERCAL; that is named after someone else whose name is also CLC) 22:57:07 zzo38 well regardless I still think you are a great programmer. 23:03:37 OK 23:05:45 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 23:28:15 Whenever i learn a new programming language I like to write a brainf*** compiler to test my skills 23:28:41 I have added a README file into Free Hero Mesh now. If there is something wrong, hopefully someone can make suggestions to fix it please. 23:29:39 -!- ubq323 has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.3). 23:29:58 arcsor5: Yes, that is one thing that you can do when learning a new programming language. I think it is not that bad to try that 23:30:42 (I had previously also tried to write Z-machine interpreter in some programming languages that I had learned of, if they support byte arrays; that includes PostScript.) 23:30:51 what is your favorite esolangs? 23:31:13 Someone was making an alternative to Ghostscript, but as I like to think, Postscript is a esoteric language while not being at the same time 23:31:17 I don't think I have a single favourite one, although some I like better than others 23:32:47 arcsor5: Yes, I suppose that could be said about PostScript. Who was making what alternative to Ghostscript? I did consider doing such a thing, making a smaller one but still full level 3 PostScript, usable both for embedding and standalone. (If it would be done, then I could change TeXnicard to use it instead of Ghostscript.) 23:35:34 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 23:35:56 https://github.com/luser-dr00g/xpost 23:36:27 -!- hendursaga has joined. 23:38:11 Someone should make a browser that works with none of all the crap Chrome is pulling off. Its sad how Github makes little effort to be compatible with all browsers 23:40:06 Xpost looks like a good idea, but far from complete it looks like. Hopefully it will be, in time. 23:40:31 I agree that a better web browser should be made. I had many ideas about how to design it better. 23:42:01 what are those ideas 23:43:29 One is meta-CSS, another is a table of contents window. Also many things are just removed or left unimplemented. Some things that were core are now extensions (often "built-in" extensions) and vice versa. Ensure the user has full control. 23:45:23 I will keep that in mind. Have you heard of Gemini and/or the Pale moon browser? They may be what you are looking for. 23:45:38 There are many other things too, including ARIA view, save/recall form data using local files, cookie editor, animation skipping, possibility to load animated GIF and PNG as videos, relative location bar, etc. 23:46:22 I have heard of those. They are not quite it, but they have done some of the things. 23:47:45 isn't cookie editing already a thing? along with saving form data? animated gif as video would be useful? 23:47:49 . 23:47:53 the last ? is a . 23:48:16 No "do not track" setting is needed; instead, the header overriding feature can be used to do the same thing (and it can also be used to specify what languages you want, and other things). You can just add the constant header "DNT:1" with the criteria specified as always. 23:49:32 Cookie editing isn't fully featured in the common modern browsers; you can only delete them. Saving form data seems not to be. What I mean is, you can enter some key combination to save form data to a file (or pipe), and a different key combination can recall it on the current web page (which might or might not be the same one that it was saved from). 23:50:07 Keyboard-oriented operation is good; you don't need all sorts of icons, menus, etc. 23:50:28 I think I saw once one web browser has a table of contents window, but it is supported only for Gemini and Markdown, not HTML. 23:52:33 In chrome I think I can edit cookies, but I'm not to sure about it. It would be in inspect element. As for the table of contents, wouldn't the website operator have to implement it on their end? How would the browser know what to put in a table of contents 23:52:35 I don't like the way that many of the APIs accessible to the document work, either. For example, if the camera API is used, it doesn't enumerate devices but asks the user to enter the path to a device, a picture file, a video file, or a command-line of a program which will produce the data on stdout. Similar can be applicable to the other APIs. 23:53:11 The browser would know what to put in the table of contents from the

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