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03:42:44 <zzo38> I wanted to write a program to convert levels from the DOS Vampire Tower format into Free Hero Mesh format. Am I strange for deciding that PostScript is the programming language to use for this?
03:43:26 <zzo38> (See http://sprunge.us/f9VgxB in case you are interested in the code)
03:44:33 <zzo38> I think on this IRC someone said that PostScript is both esoteric and non-esoteric programming language. Perhaps yes; in addition, it is also both general-purpose and domain-specific, and it is also both text-only and binary. What do you think?
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12:30:57 <esowiki> [[User:Lyxal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82271&oldid=82270 * Lyxal * (+0) If I could do good spelling that would be great
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15:42:29 <lambdabot> LOWI 191520Z 28003KT 230V340 9999 FEW050 SCT070 BKN090 11/01 Q1015 NOSIG
15:44:27 <op_4> int-e: what does that mean?
15:45:33 <int-e> it's a weather report. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/METAR
15:48:21 <int-e> fungot: are transposition tables important in Othello game tree search?
15:48:21 <fungot> int-e: i'm also leaving for night soonish.
15:54:32 <b_jonas> in particular, "LOWI" is the airport code, "191520Z" is a timestamp in the unusual %d%H%M%z format, "11/01" is the current temperature and the temperature at which the air would be saturated with water vapor, I think "Q1015" gives the atmospheric pressure in some way, and the rest I don't remember, there's something in it about clouds and wind speed and direction
15:55:17 <int-e> air pressure at ground level is 101.5 kPa
15:55:38 <b_jonas> ground level? they give the air pressure at ground level in these reports, not sea level? fun
15:55:49 <b_jonas> but which one is the wind speed and direction?
15:55:51 <int-e> FEW/SCaTterred/BroKen are cloud densities; the numbers following ar in 1k feet units, IIRC
15:56:10 <int-e> 280 03KT is average direction and wind speed
15:56:28 <int-e> 230V340 is the interval in which the direction varies
15:57:08 <b_jonas> hmm, wasn't the wind direction measured in units of 10 degrees? I must have imagined that
15:57:34 <int-e> well there *are* 0s there.
15:57:47 <b_jonas> yes, but I mean the 0 would be omitted
15:57:53 <int-e> mayby you're confusing it with runway numbering though
15:58:03 <b_jonas> then "29003KT" must encode the wind speed somehow
15:58:17 <b_jonas> or perhaps the "V" itself does that?
15:58:21 <int-e> b_jonas: I added a space for readability
15:59:32 <lambdabot> KOAK 191553Z 24004KT 10SM SCT008 OVC010 11/08 A3015 RMK AO2 SLP210 T01060078
15:59:51 <b_jonas> ok, but then I still don't know what the wind speed is, because 29003 knots is unlikely
16:00:04 <b_jonas> probably encodes variable wind speed too somehow
16:00:12 <int-e> A3015 is probably pressure again but in a different unit, something mercury based maybe?
16:00:39 <int-e> b_jonas: the first three digits are the direction
16:00:55 <int-e> b_jonas: and it was 280, not 290
16:01:31 <b_jonas> isn't "230V340" the wind direction?
16:01:54 <int-e> well, one is the dominant/average wind direction, the other is an interval
16:02:03 <int-e> but yes, there is some redundancy
16:03:27 <lambdabot> LHBP 191430Z 08005KT 040V100 9999 FEW022 BKN080 10/05 Q1014 NOSIG
16:04:33 <lambdabot> EGLL 191550Z AUTO 08004KT 010V160 9999 NCD 17/01 Q1019
16:04:56 <HackEso> 2021-04-19 16:04:55.986 +0000 UTC April 19 Monday 2021-W16-1
16:05:17 <int-e> '"Nil Cloud detected" automated METAR station has not detected any cloud, either due to a lack of it, or due to an error in the sensors'
16:05:19 <b_jonas> the data is for ---19 14:30?
16:07:58 <int-e> b_jonas: mm actually, it's possible that I'm breaking the wind direction/speed thing incorrectly and it's actually 08 005KT.
16:10:10 <int-e> But no, apparently it is three digits but always rounded to the nearest 10 degrees. So that's in line with what you said earlier. (looking at http://meteocentre.com/doc/metar.html )
16:11:39 <b_jonas> I was just surprised that the data is an hour and a half old. I know the airport is barely used, there are very few flights due to global pandemic, but still.\
16:12:07 <int-e> op_4: anyway it's obscure and almost, but not quite, useless... I don't know who started it (there was a bot called metasepia by boily that had a metar command, but I don't know whose idea *that* was)... but it's a pretty good fit for the channel
16:12:59 <int-e> b_jonas: I have no idea how the data gets to aviationweather.gov where lambdabot gets it, but I assume there's some delay
16:13:29 <int-e> and I'm hoping that aircrafts approaching the airport get more current information :)
16:22:23 <b_jonas> ah yes, this channel has a rich history of strange bots
16:34:40 <b_jonas> I was recently reading the logs for when I first joined #esoteric . apparently one of the first things I've done was to show termbot.
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16:57:00 <op_4> int-e: ``obscure and almost, but not quite, useless'' a good fit indeed :)
17:17:01 <lambdabot> EGLL 191650Z AUTO VRB03KT 9999 NCD 16/02 Q1018
17:17:26 <fizzie> Oh, someone did that one already.
17:17:39 <fizzie> (Ridiculously good weather we're having.)
17:18:39 <HackEso> C \ C.UTF-8 \ en_GB.utf8 \ en_NZ.utf8 \ en_US.utf8 \ POSIX
17:22:31 <esowiki> [[Talk:]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82273&oldid=82265 * Qpliu * (+353)
17:25:11 <HackEso> LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ALL=
17:25:12 <HackEso> LANG=C \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="C" \ LC_NUMERIC="C" \ LC_TIME="C" \ LC_COLLATE="C" \ LC_MONETARY="C" \ LC_MESSAGES="C" \ LC_PAPER="C" \ LC_NAME="C" \ LC_ADDRESS="C" \ LC_TELEPHONE="C" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="C" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" \ LC_ALL=
17:25:42 <b_jonas> so the first still uses NZ locale? I thought that got changed at some point
17:27:06 <fizzie> I think the first one's pretty simple, and ` innately uses en_NZ.
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17:27:27 <HackEso> LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ALL=
17:28:00 <b_jonas> but I thought bin/\` got changed at some point to be more like bin/\`\`
17:28:33 <b_jonas> maybe that was just the other shell options
17:28:52 <b_jonas> I also wish these didn't have rnoodl on them
17:29:27 <b_jonas> `run echo -n $'one\ntwo'; sleep 9999
17:29:36 <b_jonas> `` echo -n $'three\nfour'; sleep 9999
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18:55:37 <op_4> who wants to do my work for me?
18:55:49 <op_4> any takers? :D
18:55:55 * op_4 doesn't want to work today
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19:16:37 <imode> depends on the work.
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19:40:36 <op_4> imode: writing an introduction for a paper?
19:49:46 <oerjan> int-e: seen girl genius yet?
19:50:29 <int-e> oerjan: I have. You're just too good.
19:51:08 <int-e> op_4: do you have the rest of the paper?
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19:58:14 <oerjan> <b_jonas> but I thought bin/\` got changed at some point to be more like bin/\`\` <-- the locale difference is to me the main one, so if that got changed there would hardly be a point of _having_ two commands.
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20:08:26 <zzo38> Is there a SASL mechanism with hashcash? I think that hashcash and CAPTCHA can be implemented as SASL mechanisms, and then SASL should be supported in HTTP(S) too.
20:09:57 <zzo38> oerjan: Yes, me too I think the locale is the main reason it was set up like that
20:14:24 <int-e> `` locale | grep -v \"
20:14:25 <HackEso> LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_ALL=
20:14:28 <int-e> ``` locale | grep -v \"
20:14:30 <HackEso> LANG=C \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_ALL=
20:20:35 <op_4> int-e: yeah, i do, but this is a collaboration and i came in late to do some technical work. I'm finding it really difficult to write the background and motivation for ideas i didn't have
20:29:40 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rdococ * moved [[Harp]] to [[Harp (Archived)]]: I don't like what I've created here, and originally tried to just blank the page but moving it here is probably a better idea.
20:34:26 <esowiki> [[Harp (Archived)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82277&oldid=82275 * Rdococ * (+1524) Restored
20:36:18 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rdococ * moved [[Upsilon]] to [[Upsilon (Archived)]]
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20:40:53 <esowiki> [[Upsilon (Archived)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82280&oldid=82278 * Rdococ * (+930) Restored for historical purposes (not that I think I'm making history or anything)
20:41:07 <esowiki> [[Upsilon (Archived)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82281&oldid=82280 * Rdococ * (+1)
20:43:12 <esowiki> [[User talk:Rdococ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82282&oldid=69945 * Rdococ * (+357) /* Harp, Upsilon and Mindscrew */
20:46:30 <esowiki> [[C()]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82283&oldid=78555 * Rdococ * (+465)
20:47:15 <esowiki> [[C()]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82284&oldid=82283 * Rdococ * (+39)
20:47:23 <esowiki> [[Branch (Johnki)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82285&oldid=82261 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+35) Confusion, proper bold
20:47:50 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rdococ * moved [[C()]] to [[C() (Archived)]]
20:47:55 <esowiki> [[Branch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82288&oldid=82253 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+44) Confusion
20:48:02 <esowiki> [[Branch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82289&oldid=82288 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) Typeo
20:58:23 <zzo38> Do you have 8x8 graphics for PC code pages and PC-like code pages (other than the default one, which I already have)?
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21:37:24 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82290&oldid=79363 * Rdococ * (+278) Risen from the ground, like a phoenix with brain damage.
21:44:01 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82291&oldid=82290 * Rdococ * (-92) Last edit was accidental, finished edit for now while I flesh out details
22:09:55 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82292&oldid=82291 * Rdococ * (+798) Added example
22:14:50 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82293&oldid=82292 * Rdococ * (+236) /* Examples */
22:17:14 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82294&oldid=82293 * Rdococ * (+303)
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22:29:53 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82295&oldid=82294 * Rdococ * (+95) /* Examples */ Improved Goldbach example
22:31:59 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82296&oldid=82295 * Rdococ * (+51) /* Data types */ Added limitations to integer type
22:33:44 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82297&oldid=82296 * Rdococ * (+13) /* Data types */ Added note about arrays
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23:13:37 <esowiki> [[Surreal FOREVER loop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82299&oldid=58230 * Rdococ * (-27) Removed reference to Zeno. It has been limited to machines that can only perform hyperreal computations, not absolutely infinite ones, and thus may not apply here.
23:14:32 <esowiki> [[Zeno]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82300&oldid=82297 * Rdococ * (+62) /* Data types */
23:22:40 <esowiki> [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82301&oldid=82264 * RocketRace * (-2) What are invalid operations
23:24:14 <esowiki> [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82302&oldid=82301 * RocketRace * (+16) Wording in intro
23:28:25 <esowiki> [[Subreal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82303&oldid=82302 * RocketRace * (+220) About --> Execution model
23:29:13 <esowiki> [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82304&oldid=82303 * RocketRace * (+33) Clarify + can't elide its argument
23:31:36 <esowiki> [[Subreal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82305&oldid=82304 * RocketRace * (+196) The ~ operation
23:52:06 <esowiki> [[Subreal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82306&oldid=82305 * RocketRace * (+1338) A comprehensive fault model for operations
23:52:30 <esowiki> [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82307&oldid=82306 * RocketRace * (+10) Faults header
23:54:34 <esowiki> [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82308&oldid=82307 * RocketRace * (+95) Change subprocess EOF behavior