< 1617235571 786737 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617236677 505185 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617236752 160306 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am back < 1617236786 479808 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got back too < 1617236799 481128 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i miss anything < 1617236822 827867 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617237071 739618 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617239446 746038 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617239652 590864 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617239857 587061 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617239910 206379 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617240017 758602 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617240151 955106 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617240330 296332 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617240337 172838 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617240609 63485 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1617240990 972144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07202014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81718&oldid=81711 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+225) 10added comment for unimplemented ideas > 1617242255 917962 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* 10New user account < 1617242293 300454 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ < 1617242296 781608 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops wrong place < 1617242300 367975 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm > 1617242522 795975 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81719&oldid=81671 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+254) 10 < 1617242541 980741 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: zzzzz > 1617242908 608691 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81720&oldid=81467 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+91) 10Fixed a broken link in the "Contact him" section < 1617243597 863028 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617243986 774810 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617244402 825938 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617244661 796334 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617245455 274121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NoComment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81721&oldid=79111 5* 03CaptainFoxtrot 5* (+97) 10 > 1617245473 132095 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NoComment14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81722&oldid=81721 5* 03CaptainFoxtrot 5* (+0) 10 > 1617246662 531312 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81723&oldid=81717 5* 03Grom 5* (+195) 10 > 1617246683 581351 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81724&oldid=81723 5* 03Grom 5* (+1) 10 > 1617246857 54025 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81725&oldid=81724 5* 03Grom 5* (+1) 10/* Properties of the Master Function */ < 1617247647 795033 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617247901 836271 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617248362 588267 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1617248539 524863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81726&oldid=81725 5* 03Grom 5* (+108) 10 < 1617248652 599291 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617248652 804548 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 QUIT :Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1617249068 109462 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617249378 95714 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1617250513 821015 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81727&oldid=81726 5* 03Grom 5* (+378) 10 < 1617252338 7671 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617252621 988617 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617254675 181124 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617254796 208049 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617254796 472491 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617254887 562123 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617254890 568374 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617254948 614527 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617255062 786328 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617255229 851419 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617255274 468306 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617255551 771316 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617257169 819327 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617257420 838506 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617257852 562205 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617258135 569612 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617258997 549513 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617259424 707847 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617261290 164997 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617263197 99842 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :annual 1 April AM contest starts in 6 hours https://codeforces.com/contests/1505 < 1617263227 98217 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lazy to participate there but it's usually in esoteric languages so you might be interested < 1617263252 466297 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ACM < 1617263987 112130 :s0kx!~s0kx@tilde.town JOIN :#esoteric < 1617264412 147735 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617264418 793813 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617264573 772073 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617270049 577479 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617273711 554926 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617274067 584191 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1617274442 812554 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617275231 614886 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617275565 874398 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and SIGBOVIK 2021 conference starts in less than a day, with online video stream: http://sigbovik.org/2021/ < 1617276110 542959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, I would have missed it. It might not even be a ridiculous time to catch live. < 1617280799 217588 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's early in the morning I think... let me check < 1617280876 668461 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, it says "Starting at 6pm EDT on April 1, 2021", that's 2021-04-01 22:00Z < 1617280892 546200 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617280895 678040 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it said "6pm PDT" for some reason < 1617281172 296286 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, new SIGBOVIK! As if the previous was yesterday, time flies like an arrow < 1617281193 532941 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn covid < 1617281248 43107 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 22:00Z is pretty late for me to watch videos < 1617281288 573820 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though anyway I mostly read the paper sum < 1617281420 176539 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thank b_jonas < 1617281422 684742 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank? No such file or directory < 1617281433 194923 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks b_jonas < 1617281434 124701 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, b_jonas. Thonas. < 1617281449 392180 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :never gets old < 1617281855 199958 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can watch the video on the next day > 1617285229 599890 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81728&oldid=81727 5* 03Grom 5* (+129) 10 > 1617285278 442277 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81729&oldid=81728 5* 03Grom 5* (-8) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617285627 290191 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81730&oldid=81729 5* 03Grom 5* (+9) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617285946 885715 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81731&oldid=81730 5* 03Grom 5* (+2) 10/* Formal Definition of and */ > 1617285957 566736 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81732&oldid=81731 5* 03Grom 5* (-1) 10/* Formal Definition of and */ > 1617286102 98324 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81733&oldid=81732 5* 03Grom 5* (+22) 10/* Formal Definition of and */ < 1617286292 924742 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally Ruby code goes vertical like Befunge: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17768 < 1617286443 844826 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh i like the basic idea < 1617286476 295099 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, maybe not that exact syntax, but that would make mass assigns and similar more readable < 1617286575 435005 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: when will this tiresome day be over? < 1617286575 668001 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: " erik. on c, for example, it's true that in scheme > 1617286611 850302 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81734&oldid=81733 5* 03Grom 5* (+202) 10/* Formal Definition of and */ < 1617287031 157885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make that filter more permissive. < 1617287059 106707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing wrong with /* Formal Definition of 𝕄 and 𝔾 */ at least for this channel, we're very UTF-8 friendly. > 1617287417 738273 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81735&oldid=81734 5* 03Grom 5* (+174) 10 > 1617287429 158616 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81736&oldid=81735 5* 03Grom 5* (+1) 10/* Evidence of viability */ < 1617287909 207909 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Ping timeout: 608 seconds < 1617288121 894703 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617288810 145186 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617288894 413298 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have general advice for writing a Rockstar program that prints a specific message? In a totally mad and convoluted way, ofc < 1617289822 769143 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617290322 873830 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617290332 715738 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617290999 544111 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1617291063 816100 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617292961 904597 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: :D < 1617293018 269883 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617295682 908166 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1617295794 260638 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07No Literals, Gotos Only, Final Destination!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81737&oldid=60888 5* 03Something Fawful 5* (+37) 10/* Official Implementation */ added... finally (took me long enough) < 1617295873 453669 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 QUIT :Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1617295902 144190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81738&oldid=81661 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+232) 10/* ROT13 cipher */ < 1617296564 863494 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617296793 692001 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617296822 774212 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617297276 658033 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617297627 789058 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1617298334 498503 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81739&oldid=81736 5* 03Grom 5* (+179) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617298431 510993 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81740&oldid=81739 5* 03Grom 5* (+0) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617298463 489655 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81741&oldid=81740 5* 03Grom 5* (-70) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617298471 865174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81742&oldid=81741 5* 03Grom 5* (-1) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617298589 990317 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81743&oldid=81738 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+66) 10/* Commands and keywords */ important clarification to "succeed" > 1617299565 999627 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81744&oldid=81742 5* 03Grom 5* (+185) 10/* Evidence of viability */ < 1617299918 233452 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617299938 225377 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617300206 921612 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1617300214 875634 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1617300551 939397 :grumble!~Thunderbi@freenode/staff/grumble QUIT :Killed (Fuchs (♥ you)) < 1617300590 571040 :grumble!~Thunderbi@freenode/staff/grumble JOIN :#esoteric < 1617300893 910641 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617300973 214734 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intramodular Transaction14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81745&oldid=74674 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+601) 10Add TIO links < 1617301538 510044 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing how hard it is to find any decent public chat logs in Russian < 1617301583 14202 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :for neural stuff? < 1617301590 413256 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for learning stuff, ye < 1617301604 489388 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to parse some buggy php forum with some chat and chat-archive plugins < 1617301631 149798 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken bb codes, broken closing html tags, etc. -- got 73k pairs of message in the end < 1617301646 614701 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1617301755 807871 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken tags: https://i.imgur.com/gl4bWhf.png broken bb: https://i.imgur.com/WtX7OHN.png < 1617301800 341558 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I have some megabytes of IRC logs somewhere on backup HDD, but I thought it would be easier to get some from the internet than to find those < 1617301810 570719 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure in my decision < 1617301859 397425 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I’m lacking in English words to console or sympathize < 1617301893 372968 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah something it’s way quicker to search something out there than in a mess of a file system you created :D < 1617302030 730725 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all it to make another talking bot for my empty channel < 1617302128 121475 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a KiwiIRC webpage that people can open it in a browser to leave me a message but from what they write it appeared that they are stupid enough to think that when they join my chat I have to respond to them immediately < 1617302192 221083 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I'm 24/7 support manager < 1617302203 682083 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll make the bot to autorespond ..D < 1617302221 913068 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1617302250 678059 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a few megabytes is probably not enough < 1617302270 327304 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but good luck analyzing IRC logs, they're terrible and often full of spam and hard to understand jargon < 1617302278 934494 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :megabytes were good; 73k is probably not enough < 1617302287 65351 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: wait, do you like Q&A for them or what? Or they just say hi and expect you to hi back immediately? :o < 1617302317 360222 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv some mix of predefined QA and generated responses I guess < 1617302407 491455 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas the hard thing is grammar errors people do ( < 1617302424 720453 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m too sad this ##math isn’t so esoteric, a couple of times I joined there it wasn’t very good for my questions, IIRC < 1617302433 360111 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/this/that < 1617302457 830204 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it wasn't helpful for me either < 1617302487 521115 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I can speak their language < 1617302493 476272 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: that's what you get anywhere if you want instant low latency chat with people rather than carefully composed long form replies with hours of latency between users on a web forum. IRC just made sure we have that in writing, not just spoken in person and on telephone < 1617302500 779496 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to ask something about rotating bunches of vectors here but remembered about ##math and now I’m mixed < 1617302532 436408 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: you can't easily make a good forum whose topic is just "math", because by default it gets flooded by boring math homework questions < 1617302541 60587 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: you can ask here about rotating bunches of vectors though < 1617302554 53783 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas for some reason average Russian chat text has 5-10 times more errors in the words that average English chat text < 1617302568 194084 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :chats are awesome, though one-line chats are a bit Procrustean < 1617302587 988773 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the sentences are incorrect more often because of non-native speakers < 1617302596 828883 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more often in English < 1617302599 196874 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I know! I’m just have issues with myself spamming esoteric questions in #esoteric < 1617302648 530043 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one-line chat logs are easier to parse ..D < 1617302704 267937 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also private messaging logs are easier to build message pairs but they aren't shared publicly < 1617302774 192484 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: did you really sample all the average English text chat and the average Russian text chat? there's so much of it, at least for English, most in places that I avoid, that I have no idea what the average is like < 1617302793 207336 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I wonder about Hungarian, Finnish and some other chats (do I have a poor memory on who is a native speaker of what) < 1617302811 770558 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas I can judge by current dialog and reddit that I read every day < 1617302826 303223 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I do very little chat in Hungarian. about one small community these days, plus some chat for dayjob < 1617302832 196414 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :average Russian chats have mistakes in every 10th word < 1617302835 972180 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: ah yes. I rarely watch reddit < 1617302847 577189 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russian would write "vord" instead of "word" by 10% chance < 1617302854 899180 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: do you have any guess why it has more mistakes? < 1617302875 568915 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it just that you select for the English chats that have less mistakes, but there are fewer choices for Russian chat? < 1617302902 451791 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: reminded me how I misspelled “wave” as “vawe” many times < 1617302906 315604 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean there's definitely a large spectrum for English too < 1617302909 19293 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess something about how the pronounciation and spelling correspond to each other < 1617302921 647083 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617302924 482208 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not sure < 1617302947 687644 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often see users on English and French chat that seem to type old style SMS speech that I find hard to read < 1617302967 494532 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with abbreviations that are often cryptic to me < 1617302985 438333 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas I read not only IT subreddits, a lot is about games < 1617303125 723449 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ~10% of native Russian speakers are Ukrainian citizens and it hurts to read them today after years of ukrainization and prohibition to learn and sometimes even speak Russian < 1617303188 662778 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? English chat has a lot of non-native speakers too, with often questionable command of English < 1617303206 884810 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's often obvious that someone is from Ukraine and has never had even a single lesson of Russian and in result they don't know neither of two languages because they are forced to speak one language in school but use another one at home < 1617303235 193388 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that happens in many places < 1617303328 180642 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, sometimes you can guess what native language someone speaks. it's easier in spoken text, but still often possible in written < 1617303380 332190 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to watch a game stream by someone speaking English with the second most egregious Hungarian accent that I've heard from people who regularly speak English < 1617303394 623049 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stream is still there, I'm just less interested < 1617303435 671954 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one recognizes I'm Ukrainian though < 1617303525 533431 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even recognize Belorussian by a surname but Ukrainian and Russian surnames are more mixed < 1617303567 262944 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, some people speak English so well that it's harder to tell < 1617303730 264453 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are basically only two clues: 1) how I pronounce "шо" instead of "что" ("what") -- this is how you speak Russian in Eastern Ukraine, and 2) how I pronounce the sound "г" ("gh") that is so subtle that no one spots it unless tries to < 1617303755 123592 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah btw the question is interesting, though not mine. We have an euclidean space, say of dimension 3 (the original question is just about 3) and vectors v1, …, vN and w1, …, wN; < 1617303755 273384 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are interested in value of (v1 ⋅ R(w1)) … (vN ⋅ R(wN)) for an average rotation R, i. e. we want to integrate dμ(R) with respect to a Haar measure μ on SO(3) which is 1 on all of SO(3); < 1617303755 377922 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ve written various expressions involving 3D vector operations or quaternions (IIRC Haar measure on SO(3) corresponds to an usual euclidean-induced measure on S⁴, the sphere of unit quaternions, < 1617303755 377984 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :which cover SO(3) doubly but that’s of no pain for this integration) but no use, the integral for even N = 1 looks unapproachable; < 1617303755 378002 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :for N = 1 it should be 0 (pretty obvious), for N = 2 the asker gives an empirical result (v1 ⋅ v2) (w1 ⋅ w2), and for N = 3 they claim (v1 ⋅ (v2 × v3)) (w1 ⋅ (w2 × w3)); < 1617303755 592113 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋅ is the inner product and × is a cross product; and I think we can slap a fixed orientation to the euclidean space for less worrying, as we use only SO, not O < 1617303797 364017 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: can your timezone be a clue too? < 1617303806 486219 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when I speak to another Ukrainian (and we have some uplifted mood, maybe after a beer) we both start speaking with much more Ukrainian accent < 1617303857 823580 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas only one timezone in Ukraine ..D but you can timezone Russian citizen by his vocabulary similar to how you can differ far parts of US < 1617303898 273575 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: exactly, but I mean your timezone might be a clue how someone tells that you're Ukranian < 1617303913 282512 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though while US pronounciation may differ from state to state it's much less different between parts of Russia even though it's bigger, idk why < 1617303999 219589 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: dunno, that should depend on television and radio, but I don't know much about the history < 1617304026 37281 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe US was more influence by immigration? < 1617304034 941377 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*influenced < 1617304348 696024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1617304365 416669 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"21:47:34 nakilon: do you have any guess why it has more mistakes?" -- oh, maybe because mistakes aren't in roots actually but in suffixes -- you use them in Russian to change the meaning of the word while in English you rather change the order of words < 1617304387 77153 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/actually/usually < 1617304631 428481 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, "server / on the server" is "сервер / на серверЕ"; my CTO always wrote "на серверИ" -- that was awful < 1617305037 9354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :серверИ doesn't seem to be a valid form according to wiktionary < 1617305084 768604 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :сервери is awful I agree < 1617305098 421410 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, absolutely invalid word, and it's a pretty common mistake to write И instead of Е in the end < 1617305110 607607 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :that’s even more eye-straining than “у бабушке” < 1617305154 711896 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :к бабушки < 1617305262 420173 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m glad I almost never see that < 1617305283 743694 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically when someone can't learn own language he can't learn English and I believe if you can't English you very likely can't program < 1617305303 503811 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good that CTO don't code < 1617305318 863048 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least because good docs are in English yep < 1617305388 569840 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first major dive in English was because of Delphi 7 docs :D though that one was very shallow. Several years latter I started reading webfiction < 1617305497 767102 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, those F1 Windows API and stdlib docs -- you was either learning from them or from nowhere < 1617305723 929180 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ~1990 there were Russian books for Spectrum / BASIC, not much computer science in them but a decent start, and then the world has changed somehow; maybe because of Internet, idk < 1617305813 105531 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's my point of view that is attached to my age < 1617306317 574356 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617306395 72714 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1617306501 47039 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1617306568 640439 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think good physical books on programming and CS were pretty rare; I haven’t had one ever. Had plenty of somethings quickly becoming outdated and having not too much info, like a book on JS or a book about some interesting algorithms and data structures with Delphi code, but I wasn’t tempted to type all that code, and I think I had no internet these days so I couldn’t just download it. Ugh. So the book mostly sat on the shelf. Oh < 1617306568 787148 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : I was glad I now understood regexes were compilable into graphs nice to use, but anyway the presentation wasn’t the best (it always finished with a page or several of plain code), nor was the breadth, though what do I want from ~300 pages < 1617306722 534611 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :one needs thousands of pages and tinkering with hundreds of examples of various style to gain a versatile enough understanding, shame paper books aren’t good with this these times. A couple of topics, surely — but at least a decent slice of a discipline? noo < 1617306784 878460 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1617306858 644824 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have a reference for a small language like Lua, and its compact standard library, but you won’t learn how to use a programming language as an instrument decently, only knowing its reference, unfortunately. You can have an elementary group theory, but no more. Something is not right in the universe :D < 1617306990 188873 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it’s well-known since long ago that human learning is pretty inefficient, of course, why do I reiterate that < 1617308024 443959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1617308689 593773 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617310132 622155 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617311948 668434 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Hmmm < 1617312118 857805 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1617312345 37502 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1617314422 608136 :ubq323!~ubq323@host109-148-97-157.range109-148.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1617314730 863655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's SIGBOVIK time, I guess. I see they've made the proceedings available already. < 1617316836 10570 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh drat, I missed some of it < 1617316851 286810 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a schedule? < 1617316857 354699 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see what talks I missed < 1617316943 897427 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is the report, you could still read that < 1617317193 348029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see a schedule of talks, but there was a keynote from tom7 on the paper Lowestcase and Uppestcase letters: Advances in Derp Learning, and then regular talks for: Stone Tools as Palaeolithic Central Unit Processors, and Macro-driven metalanguage for writing Pyramid Scheme programs, in addition to this ongoing bird thing. < 1617317219 414232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said for fairness the keynote was selected randomly just now, so I guess they couldn't have put it in a schedule ahead of time. < 1617317238 745134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like this model where the answers to the Q&A questions are prerecorded. < 1617318154 798676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, I don't have an SSTV decoder at all. < 1617318628 143575 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, and he promises a longer video version of his talk too < 1617318637 546088 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a director's cut or something < 1617318647 147304 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I assume will be on his youtube channel after the conference < 1617318710 595405 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also said that I got him to play shapez.io, and that took up much of his time before the conference, and I'm not sure if I should consider that a success or a failure because it means worse sigbovik talk, < 1617318757 817334 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I recommended that game two months ago, so how was I to know he'd start playing it shortly before the conference deadline. should I have warned him that it will hook him for weeks? < 1617318769 505677 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean he's an adult, he can waste his time on his own < 1617318865 867668 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has wasted last hours to deploy his first Ruby code onto Google Cloud Functions as a backend for the future chat bot < 1617318982 784687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were some references in the keynote video about it being ruined (or some other adjective) by the SIGBOVIK organizing committee. < 1617319335 184622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was nice. I don't know if all the papers and/or presentations were that great, but I'd kind of been missing the conference atmosphere. < 1617319521 928612 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the conference ended, so I'll rewind and watch the talks at the start, including tom7's < 1617319533 259143 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I think I'll want to see the full version and read the proceedings too < 1617320349 623350 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617320481 763754 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617320575 945735 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617320666 817280 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1617321012 804608 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: full version of tom7's talk is out at https://www.twitch.tv/videos/971776826 < 1617322569 65992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Or at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLRdruqQfRk < 1617322584 8262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the talk is different from the video? < 1617322619 30064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, looks like the same thing. < 1617322806 8867 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Hmmm < 1617323338 134909 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1617323390 706917 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617323496 752058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, nice to see QSSTV managed to decode that one bit. < 1617324306 186094 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1617324401 212458 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : but I recommended that game two months ago, so how was I to know he'd start playing it shortly before the conference deadline => lol < 1617324661 854724 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw this game on Steam < 1617324673 337880 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I marvel at this interconnectedness < 1617324681 823350 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, I pasted the wrong thing. it's at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLRdruqQfRk < 1617324691 393668 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks repetitive < 1617324713 835576 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would rather play Mindustry < 1617324745 639548 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay good morning everyone I’ll go see some dreams < 1617324758 45065 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1617325038 559898 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617325946 264989 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: it has two nice puzzles in it, I recommended it to Tom for the puzzles specifically < 1617325968 604351 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two puzzles are at high levels, the earlier levels have to teach you all the tools that you can use to solve them < 1617326541 201314 :ubq323!~ubq323@host109-148-97-157.range109-148.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.3 < 1617331971 777393 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this about SSTV? < 1617332420 311146 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-doltfppulyslazvr PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1617333460 449172 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1617334268 756192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81746&oldid=81743 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+915) 10/* Example programs */ added a roman numerals program < 1617334398 324155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The SIGBOVIK e-conference stream had a part where they had a slide up that just said "Is it possible to have images in an audio-only talk? (Please get your slow-scan television decoders ready.)" < 1617334440 768021 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus two more for the Q&A section. And a tune. < 1617334465 167732 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1617334474 679805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not particularly exciting images, but it's the principle of the thing.) < 1617334480 943647 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1617334487 246616 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :what timestamp is that at < 1617334495 798567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around 01:16:15 in the https://www.twitch.tv/videos/971776826 recording. < 1617334500 129617 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decoded some SSTV images from HAARP once, that was neat < 1617334530 255873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googling around the topic, I learned they send SSTV images from the ISS sometimes. > 1617334556 126268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Encapsulation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81747&oldid=74672 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+2586) 10Add TIO links < 1617334558 241580 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1617334574 938022 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried to receive those too, but had pretty poor results < 1617334586 131636 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure why, since other people have good results with even a very modest setup > 1617334605 720566 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Encapsulation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81748&oldid=81747 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-2) 10/* Cat */ > 1617334657 517749 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Encapsulation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81749&oldid=81748 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-8) 10/* Reverse the sequence */ < 1617334987 723713 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to actually make a contact with SSTV one day < 1617335041 777821 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I very rarely see people using it on HF < 1617335048 540406 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess there are scheduled SSTV nets that I could try to join < 1617335065 772185 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't have a very good HF setup although I've been working on that a little < 1617335695 57414 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :the particular use of SSTV in the SIGBOVIK reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellschreiber < 1617335758 906947 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is closer to RTTY in application, but closer to SSTV in implementation < 1617335766 911409 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is old as hell and definitely esoteric < 1617336703 728132 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-doltfppulyslazvr PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool as hell too < 1617336738 377842 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-doltfppulyslazvr PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day im going to do things that are cool and esoteric again < 1617342388 920959 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most recent SIGBOVIK mentions Klondike solitaire cards, and how to make the game impossible. I prefer the Algerian solitaire cards (and other games), though; not Klondike so much. < 1617342430 758850 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you prefer the Algerian solitaire cards? < 1617342626 866628 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also remember once (was it SIGBOVIK?) they mentioned how to make the longest chess game. < 1617342908 830040 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that? < 1617342993 925893 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is what one? < 1617343391 189519 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One rule of chess is that if neither player can checkmate the other player after any sequence of moves even if the players cooperate to do so, then no more moves are possible and the game ends in a draw. They mentioned that there, but I had also known about it earlier, as it was used in some retro chess problems. > 1617343392 742236 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Largejamie14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81750 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+143) 10Created page with "Hello! I'm Jamie Large and I have the very creative username largejamie. Languages I've invented: * [[DFA-er]] * [[PDA-er]] * [[Airline food]]" < 1617343606 221985 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh! I was wondering if it was fax or modem noises, I think I didn't pay attention tot he "slow-scan television decoders" thing < 1617343702 168882 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does the sound in the twitch stream actually carry enough information to decode that? < 1617343748 854273 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is this another of those formats that are designed to be transmitted through an analog telephone line, like fax and modems? < 1617343780 2801 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean telephone line in a way that passes through the telephone exchanges < 1617343972 334182 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does it use compression like fax, or uncompressed like analog television? < 1617344111 126479 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it is uncompressed < 1617344123 226077 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, it contains enough information to decode. I did it with qsstv earlier this evening < 1617344173 258899 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about slowscan, but I did not write a slowscan decoder in Farbfeld Utilities yet. (Presumably, it would acept the audio stream on stdin, given the format with the command-line arguments.) < 1617344239 97410 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: SSTV is primarily designed to be transmitted over analog radio links using the same bandwidth as a voice transmission, usually by connecting the encoding/decoding device (these days almost always a computer) to an analog radio using the same mode used for voice (FM or SSB) < 1617344320 678488 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uncompressed and analog in nature; like fast-scan analog TV it has discrete scanlines, but is continuous in the horizontal dimension and the luma/chroma dimensions < 1617344579 356004 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so not telephone lines. I see. < 1617344584 235009 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the info < 1617344585 341964 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :noise or interfering signals in the radio channel will appear as static in the image < 1617344622 583110 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use SSTV over a telephone line < 1617344629 543714 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like this was maybe done in the early days of SSTV < 1617344632 301525 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :> The concept of SSTV was introduced by Copthorne Macdonald[1] in 1957–58.[2] He developed the first SSTV system using an electrostatic monitor and a vidicon tube. It was deemed sufficient to use 120 lines and about 120 pixels per line to transmit a black-and-white still picture within a 3 kHz telephone channel. First live tests were performed on the 11-meter ham band – which was later given to the CB < 1617344634 80345 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:13: error: :1:13: error: parse error on input ‘of’ < 1617344638 448775 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :service in the US. In the 1970s, two forms of paper printout receivers were invented by hams. < 1617344639 775751 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like it was made for decoding with old equipment, like analog television < 1617344700 938853 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the idea dates back to the 60s < 1617344706 673504 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :was used on old space missions < 1617344713 972776 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :though in a different form from what hams use today < 1617344734 386669 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and encoded too I guess < 1617344771 682042 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bandwidth of a SSB transmission on ham radio is pretty much the same as that of an old school analog voice call < 1617344777 978756 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the noise level will typically be much higher < 1617344940 847998 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :hams use SSTV now because a) we like old stuff and b) it fits in narrow bandwidth < 1617344984 82681 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the HF bands have only 50 - 500 kHz of bandwidth, which is shared among all users of that band, potentially worldwide < 1617344991 485483 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for old technology, I'm still amazed by how between 1900 and 1910, people managed to set up working transatlantic telegraphy systems used in production both on radio and on undersea cables, all before they had cathode ray tubes or modern plastics < 1617345006 792208 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's pretty neat < 1617345065 704955 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have I mentioned yet why I looked up the history about that? < 1617345066 784128 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty fucking convenient that the earth provides a natural equivalent of bouncing signals off a satellite, in the form of the ionosphere < 1617345088 937513 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :not an exact equivalent, of course; it's very complicated to do it well < 1617345095 897993 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's kind of amazing that you can do it at all < 1617345107 110020 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and the Earth manages to shield us from radition < 1617345107 888627 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even more amazing that people got it working at basically the dawn of the modern era < 1617345110 900442 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1617345120 588075 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think these two facts are related < 1617345126 525460 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not too good at geophysics < 1617345127 257076 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1617345153 787641 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or...\ < 1617345160 470864 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's even weirder is how little HF radio is used these days < 1617345166 867260 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still gets a fair amount of use but like < 1617345179 6680 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the ionosphere is related to the lower frequencies shielding only? I don't know < 1617345204 456662 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :skywave propagation of HF is this interesting natural phenomenon that was very important for human technology for a period of less than 100 years < 1617345207 606067 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is much less important today < 1617345212 806071 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still works and it's still fun to do! < 1617345244 979386 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still blows my mind that I can set up a crappy wire antenna in my backyard and exchange text messages with someone in Russia by pumping less than 100 watts of power into that wire < 1617345250 702682 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but most of the communication goes on the higher bandwidth channels, I think that's natural < 1617345280 307762 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what distance is that? I don't know how close you are to Russia < 1617345286 424540 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in San Francisco < 1617345296 52203 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :so even the far east part of russia is far < 1617345297 473051 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1617345306 276201 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've managed to message someone in/near the european part < 1617345316 244149 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, modern communication satellites provide way more throughput than all of HF combined, and much more reliably < 1617345337 585266 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :though at a price < 1617345364 163012 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: why were you looking up the history of transatlantic telegraphy? < 1617345369 435235 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too, but a lot of data is just sent on long distance cables and then transmitted on higher frequency radio near the two ends < 1617345376 835387 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1617345398 150407 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :one interesting niche of renewed interest in HF radio is high frequency (heh) stock trading < 1617345404 33816 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :where latency is much more important than throughput < 1617345421 904642 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/47171973#47171973 < 1617345456 906226 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they use undersea cables and computers in the middle of the Atlantic for that < 1617345475 630126 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but HF might make sense < 1617345504 892746 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :signals travel much slower in cables than in free space < 1617345505 361098 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they get permission to use HF for that though? < 1617345529 595776 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of commercial radio license from the FCC and whatever other national agencies are involved < 1617345530 882855 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: even in optical cables? < 1617345548 346968 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1617345573 966225 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. because I'm quite sure that trading thing wouldn't fall into amateur radio permissions. < 1617345583 450537 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :the refractive index of glass is about 1.5 < 1617345604 175407 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.4 to 2.2, yes < 1617345604 890267 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :so light travels 1/3 slower in glass than in air < 1617345618 99029 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :(air being very close to 1) < 1617345630 162570 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the skywave path is not direct, it bounces off the ionosphere < 1617345630 693558 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bit slower because it has to bounce around the cable, right? < 1617345636 169368 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the fiber optic signal does a bunch of bouncing too < 1617345636 603323 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1617345648 188631 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, they aren't doing it on amateur HF bands < 1617345667 41677 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a bunch of licensed (and some unlicensed) users of HF spectrum besides hams < 1617345736 174942 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortwave broadcasters, aviation, marine weather reports, emergency comms in the australian outback, government, NGOs, military, spies < 1617345776 179213 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :time signals, ionospheric research < 1617345799 568009 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :also medical, industrial, and scientific uses that have nothing to do with long distance communication < 1617345807 132590 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as curing the glues within plywood by heating it with RF < 1617345841 859219 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few ISM bands within shortwave frequencies for such uses, just as there's a 2.4 GHz band used by microwave ovens and WiFi < 1617345856 21876 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm told you can hear some of the big chinese plywood factories from across the pacific ocean < 1617345873 611244 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he < 1617345895 608563 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that reminds me another interesting use of HF: over-the-horizon radar < 1617345979 430412 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the Russian Woodpecker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar < 1617346037 803708 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was a massive pain in the ass to everyone as the Russians would transmit very powerful signals on whatever frequencies they felt like < 1617346059 515946 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :with little to no regard for the internationally recognized users of those frequencies < 1617346394 531570 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :'That leaves “turn a river in its bed” as the only element of the poem that isn't possible with technology, not only in 1911 but even today, but that one is probably a hyperbole.' <-- I don't think it's hyperbole, just an idiomatic / poetic way of describing redirecting a river through earthworks < 1617346462 605396 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617346519 507951 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1617346530 574738 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :'And “You shall see and hear your cracking question hurled” because it's a stupid spark gap radio, because the reasonable kind of amplitude modulated radio telegraph transmissions were invented but not in general use yet in 1911.' < 1617346586 709990 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I did later find that there was an intermediate technology between spark gap and vacuum tube < 1617346587 898389 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :spark gaps were replaced with continuous wave long before amplitude modulation became practical < 1617346601 309060 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexanderson_alternator ? < 1617346635 832979 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check, I know where I read about this < 1617346663 603776 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one in the world that still transmits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexanderson_Day < 1617346814 530637 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"https://www.navalgazing.net/Signalling-Part-2" says "Poulsen arc", which seems different < 1617346848 744598 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, interesting < 1617346874 763557 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard about that < 1617346876 755556 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the link < 1617347257 842395 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for new technology, I find modern power supplies impossible. it looks like you shouldn't be able to transform voltage in such tiny packages made of mostly capacitors and be more efficient than the best traditional power supplies. < 1617347313 223474 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes me wonder what magic that I thought would be impossible we'd get ubiquitious in everyday life in the next decade < 1617347342 675462 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be better batteries < 1617347356 63408 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's big business so a lot of people are working on it < 1617347391 713879 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1617347421 219249 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be improved nuclear power generation too < 1617347454 554211 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean improved compared to molten salt generators, not improved compared to the forty year old ones that we still use < 1617347509 744308 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess even more plastics with nice properties are pretty likely < 1617347589 860071 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to replace rubber with something that doesn't start drying and cracking after a few years would be nice < 1617347632 458145 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not surprising that switch mode supplies can beat for efficiency a traditional supply of transformer + linear regulator, because a linear regulator works by requiring the unregulated input voltage to always be a bit higher than the desired regulated output, and burning off the excess as heat < 1617347635 814032 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or better packing padding material than styrofoam < 1617347658 72192 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people are working on making packaging material out of mycelium < 1617347664 20803 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ikea started shipping some of their products that way < 1617347670 981986 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but the regulators weren't linear, they already had diodes or transistors when I was young < 1617347686 213318 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :a linear regulator uses transistors < 1617347697 369676 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and also of cardboard, which seems to work well in many packaging < 1617347714 701852 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why is it called linear then? < 1617347718 146499 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what sense is it linear? < 1617347742 562950 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it acts like a linear amplifier < 1617347770 927135 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses the transistor in its linear regime, where changes in the output voltage are proportional to changes in the input voltage < 1617347804 312309 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it? I thought you can't do that to make direct current < 1617347817 119857 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to use nonlinearity to make direct current from alternating current < 1617347825 157165 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make it nice and smooth < 1617347833 950768 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're mixing up several things here < 1617347850 448284 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can turn AC into DC with just diodes < 1617347858 254709 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, those are nonlinear elements < 1617347858 466939 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, nonlinear diodes < 1617347875 986456 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they don't give you a regulated voltage either < 1617347890 801730 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so there are additional elements, including capacitors < 1617347914 232229 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1617347949 912379 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's still only giving you some chosen fraction of the input voltage < 1617347959 585008 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :not some arbitrary fixed voltage that is independent of the input < 1617347967 390331 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what a voltage regulator does < 1617347988 393247 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1617347997 802341 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the 7805 regulator always outputs 5 volts no matter the input (within some range of course) < 1617348003 813198 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a linear, not switch mode device < 1617348030 879003 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wastes power equivalent to (input voltage - output voltage) * current < 1617348055 745407 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :burning off the excess < 1617348058 716597 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1617348117 41974 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but what makes old power supplies waste power when no power is drawn off them then? < 1617348144 635432 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1617348209 528882 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617348262 998047 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :well an even crappier and simpler linear regulator (shunt regulator) will do that < 1617348332 589064 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise i don't know < 1617348348 695043 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i should go to bed now < 1617348350 78618 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1617348428 354591 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, wasting much less power isn't the only way the new power supplies are impossible < 1617348431 350763 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're also smaller < 1617348444 391476 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could expect the logic part of computers get smaller, and the memories < 1617348454 700579 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the power supply is one that I'd have predicted needs size < 1617348465 481481 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617348500 714577 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :that relates to the frequency used for switching < 1617348534 101069 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :inductors / transformers that transmit useful amounts of power at 50/60 Hz are much larger than ones that transmit the same amount of power at dozens to hundreds of kHz < 1617348571 264082 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, in impossible things I hope they'll invent, better superconductors would be nice too < 1617348572 663138 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :with simple components you have to reduce the frequency before rectifying it < 1617348584 755578 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, reduce the voltage < 1617348604 616734 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a switching power supply you can rectify the mains voltage and then switch that to regulate it down to the desired voltage < 1617348614 383274 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense going AC -> DC -> AC -> DC < 1617348628 980972 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is kind of funny that this ends up being more efficient < 1617348645 657759 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, going to sleep for real now :) < 1617348646 406190 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttyl < 1617348657 25712 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1617348843 638229 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, some people predict that the new RNA vaccine technology developed for this pandemic will allow to make good vaccines for much more viral infections for which we don't have a vaccine yet < 1617348853 888029 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if that indeed works out, that might be another one < 1617350796 816582 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617350922 940458 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617350944 751002 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617350973 724733 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617351942 810813 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617354833 847986 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1617355000 637941 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617357675 219596 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-007-125-001.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1 < 1617357689 537440 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-007-125-001.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617359772 500614 :s0kx!~s0kx@tilde.town PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 2.8" < 1617360331 736927 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617361338 325918 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617361362 728783 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1617363010 221333 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03A esolang user 5* 10New user account < 1617365906 581241 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617367077 825600 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617368416 526042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! One of my former coauthors is cited in one of the SIGBOVIK papers. < 1617368458 266790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Specifically, citation [4] of Universal Insights with Multi-layered Embeddings.) < 1617369604 746179 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617369940 969469 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1617369959 837142 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1617370737 714515 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617371351 649887 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie what are you coauthor of? < 1617372856 803967 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Recursed is still hard. < 1617373039 591271 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes I know it's been shown to be Turing-hard) < 1617373801 968623 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617373854 108870 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1617373960 130696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been involved in 5 or so more or less (leaning towards "more") uninteresting papers together with Jort Gemmeke (and others) around "conventional" (read: pre-DNN-revolution) noise-robust speech recognition. < 1617374817 609425 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617375119 343180 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why uninteresting? < 1617375338 866932 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617376223 648407 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617377806 859893 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1617377844 919389 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617378411 932024 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1617378544 659876 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pyramid Scheme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81751&oldid=76346 5* 03B jonas 5* (+194) 10/* External resources */ < 1617379373 308924 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pyramid scheme is a funny idea < 1617382664 317223 :dingwat!uid70835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qfsqsinuzlsupxfz JOIN :#esoteric > 1617383428 864179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81752&oldid=81719 5* 03A esolang user 5* (+274) 10 < 1617384248 812544 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1617384265 809099 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617387064 967059 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617388388 191386 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617388514 588218 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617388535 535310 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617388801 895624 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617388901 334408 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :sassafras < 1617388927 241749 :sassafras!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin > 1617390168 395975 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81753&oldid=81746 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+321) 10/* Example programs */ added a kolakoski sequence program < 1617390469 979370 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617391047 553739 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617391383 39510 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617391758 554114 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617391893 820268 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617392656 36145 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617392669 837854 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-80-151.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617392759 845517 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617392821 834498 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617392838 174608 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1617393785 397437 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617396181 991409 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nakilon I was away and didn’t notice what you messaged me sorry < 1617396182 464270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1617396195 469176 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv no! < 1617396198 337646 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*np < 1617396205 439471 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops you’re online < 1617396266 426459 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't freenode have memoserv? < 1617396279 283383 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it has < 1617396292 899245 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how does it work? < 1617396298 838712 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : /memoserv help < 1617396441 712978 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit unconventional it doesn’t use private messages < 1617396499 555449 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in result it spams the window of the currently active channel, hm < 1617396499 772920 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose PRIVMSG is for human-to-human < 1617396526 701727 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your client, I guess some have a preference to show NOTICEs only in a server tab < 1617396547 502556 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe I misconfigured something < 1617396549 341274 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually like when things don't make you switch tabs < 1617396571 287775 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stupid Lounge that I use opens the /whois results in a query window < 1617396793 431366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like nobody ever actually uses MemoServ. < 1617396799 206823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On freenode, anyway.) < 1617396977 590970 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617397179 865927 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never used it < 1617397183 106580 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should send me a memo! < 1617397273 503172 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally I set up coloring for this thing < 1617397309 681121 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if it won’t flash and notify it will be discernible when scrolling the chat < 1617397315 231631 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty arseniiv < 1617397348 248269 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is fun :D < 1617397372 163673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot You're being usurped. < 1617397372 850974 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1617397434 272023 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm will lambdabot read a MemoServ’s message?.. < 1617397473 606116 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt < 1617397497 260343 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it’s robust against unknown message types < 1617397503 509519 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@eval 2 + 81 < 1617397510 441731 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it < 1617397539 156341 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 2 + 81 -- eval is not the thing < 1617397541 57457 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 83 < 1617397589 4769 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I have used memoserv < 1617397705 412357 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617397798 780925 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617397860 677932 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617397887 586175 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617398005 175 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617398038 780144 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617398316 848412 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617398383 793096 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617400083 932513 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-80-151.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1617400374 943681 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1617406212 897382 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81754&oldid=81753 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (-66) 10/* Commands and keywords */ reverted my "important clarification to "succeed"" < 1617408123 581333 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617408648 884300 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Bye! < 1617408894 846226 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric > 1617412565 716006 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81755&oldid=81754 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+241) 10/* Example programs */ added a thue-morse sequence program < 1617412762 411636 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617412810 173558 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81756&oldid=81755 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+9) 10/* Commands and keywords */ better important clarification to "succeed" > 1617413492 746488 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Not applicable/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81757&oldid=81712 5* 03Not applicable 5* (+2237) 10add Z-Machine clone < 1617417860 617749 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are some things that occur at regular or nearly regular intervals, are unpredictable, and once they have occurred can easily be verified by anyone in the world and will be recorded for verification in the future too? I had idea involving such things using as a random number seed. < 1617421364 277504 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question zzo38. Reddit posts? < 1617422039 488300 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :blockchain blocks < 1617422142 754729 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some bitcoin lotteries which work this way, you can place bets regarding bits of the hash of the next block accepted after some specified time < 1617422183 733394 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way you can verify that the lottery administrators are not rigging the RNG < 1617422203 522037 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since bets are made publicly, by sending bitcoins to their address, you can also verify that everyone in the past who bet and won has been paid < 1617422252 300735 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course at any time they could still decide to cheat everyone and pocket the money for the next round but it would be clear to everyone that they had done so, and people would stop playing their lottery < 1617422347 999756 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think with ethereum or other smart contract coins you could do one better, make a lottery that is collectively administered by the consensus of the network, so as long as a majority of nodes interpret contracts faithfully then the people who placed winning bets will get paid, there is no central entity that can decide to stiff them < 1617422378 590450 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think smart contracts have somewhat limited utility compared to the hype but there are some tidy and self contained things you can do with them < 1617422510 712877 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I do want random numbers that are verifiable to not have been rigged by a third party, even later. They can be useful for experiments, like when I want to prove a statistical statement that has a too large domain, so I can't measure every possibility, I have to take a sample, but I want to prove that I haven't picked my sample in a biased way to support my statement. I don't see why they'd be < 1617422516 682034 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful for *lotteries* though. Do the kind of people who rigorously verify that the company really gets the numbers from blockchain actually buy lottery tickets? < 1617422568 336701 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are definitely people who are interested in online gambling who are tech savvy enough to verify such things < 1617422576 198449 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps not lotteries but more interesting games? < 1617422602 830382 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the old days of numbers rackets run by the mafia they would use the last digits of the closing price of the Dow Jones Industrial Average or whatever as the RNG < 1617422610 108598 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :because anyone can verify that by picking up a newspaper < 1617422629 251655 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mob bets on the low bits of the dow and wall street bets on the high bits ;P < 1617422695 616612 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like poker? perhaps. < 1617422709 418054 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the idea of picking random numbers in a way that proves you have nothing up your sleeve is also used in non-interactive zero-knowledge proofs < 1617422750 26026 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, zero-knowledge or at least reduced knowledge is possible too < 1617422750 173809 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :a traditional ZKP is an interactive protocol where you pose challenge questions and receive answers < 1617422778 807743 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the other party is able to answer enough questions properly then you can be reasonably confident they have whatever knowledge they don't want to reveal directly < 1617422803 18540 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a non interactive form they pose the questions to themselves, but have to prove that they picked them randomly < 1617422814 110854 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1617422835 406659 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way another interesting and self contained use case for smart contracts is posting bounties for forged cryptographic certificates < 1617422836 914222 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the non-interactive thing still applies if the proof isn't zero-knowledge < 1617422846 122478 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :versus interactive < 1617422889 796222 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I own some domain I can write a smart contract which pays out to anyone who can present a TLS certificate for that domain, that is signed by , and is not one of the legitimate certs mentioned in the contract < 1617422910 622795 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that can be encoded in a smart contract without reference to any external judge or data source < 1617422931 477477 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the person who is perhaps expending resources or taking risks to claim the bounty knows that they will be paid on completion < 1617424425 252658 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you verify bitcoin hashes if you do not have bitcoin? How often is Dow Jones average updated? Is it only on business days, or every day? Are there other things? Does bitcoin have timestamps? < 1617424464 357371 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I would think that bitcoin presumably would require too many blocks to verify it properly? < 1617424533 521860 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually reddit posts can be verified easily by just going on the site using their api < 1617424548 266131 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the problem with bitcoin was that you can influence it. not deterministically, but bias it by a small amount, in case you manage to mine the block that is referenced. < 1617424580 107147 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, that's still a small enough bias that you can account for it in calculating bounds and do most things that require a random sample and a statistical proof < 1617424858 922430 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know a lot about how it works, but yes I suppose that makes sense. Although, even if it is Reddit you can post your own messages too if you have an account. < 1617424892 197910 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently irssi and w3m use the boehm garbage collector < 1617424946 454174 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit has a message stream so you simply take random messages and put them in your generator. To verify use the link. No account needed i think. You can use the byte representation of the values < 1617425115 106823 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally something that does not require an internet connection would also help, I suppose. < 1617425181 465204 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then i guess some sensor/adapter that captures a real world value would be acquired. That's what random.org has < 1617425290 647262 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sirlin's Codex card game is designed that you do not need to do anything on your opponent's turn; you do stuff only on your own turn. With the system that I have thought of, the game rules need no modification, although some of the card effects will not work. < 1617425337 491034 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another source of random numbers that occurs regularly is weather < 1617425341 979646 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, the ones that allow you to draw cards during your own turn won't work, and the ones that allow you to look at opponent's cards will not work; you can only draw cards during opponent's turn. < 1617425354 767066 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the weather is predictable. < 1617425420 670726 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O (would we get better weather reports if predicting the *exact* temperature and rainfall was linked to a substantial monetrary prize?) < 1617425467 830812 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use the built in rng < 1617425471 442591 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe then would they use the money to build better equipment for predicting the weather (if such a thing is possible)? < 1617425477 834647 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urandom is pretty good < 1617425559 740905 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and if you want to generate random numbers locally, for your own use, that works. < 1617425561 62254 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :urandom or random.org does not solve the problem of distributed consensus about the randomly generated value < 1617425596 748429 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to trust that whoever is publishing the result really chose it randomly < 1617425601 973619 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, yes, distributed consensus about the randomly generated value is what I am asking about, and urandom isn't that. < 1617425608 144080 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, what is the interval of Dow Jones? < 1617425621 325273 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the closing price is published once a day, on days when the market is open < 1617425647 474395 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is most weekdays, although the holiday schedule is not exactly the same as US Federal holidays or whatever) < 1617425668 815522 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1617425669 74433 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.nyse.com/markets/hours-calendars < 1617425682 554258 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :defining prices intraday is a little trickier < 1617425703 512823 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are in reality many different venues in which you can trade the same set of stocks < 1617425714 253856 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the price of the last executed trade may be different on each < 1617425739 378319 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some attempt to regulate the existence of a 'national market system' with a coherent idea of last trade price, but it's complicated < 1617425755 305988 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course, stock prices are not random, and can be predicted and manipulated to some degree < 1617425903 143648 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not really distributed consensus, it's centralized consensus published by a centralized organization (NYSE) that is deemed to have little to no interest in manipulating the mafia's illegal lotteries < 1617425903 641455 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they probably can be predicted and manipulated to some degree, although I don't know what degree. (Although, there is lso some degree for the other things mentioned, too.) < 1617425913 609844 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they have a much bigger and legal lottery to run ;) < 1617425939 786715 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there stars or other stuff in space that is suitable at all? < 1617425941 486394 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :an issue with using the weather is that you have to trust whoever publishes the data < 1617425968 639875 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :while it's hard to actually manipulate the weather, it's easy to manipulate the records of the weather < 1617425979 838693 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The positions of planets and stuff can easily be predicted, but I don't know if there is stuff that isn't < 1617425985 252680 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't prove after the fact that it was really 30° instead of 29° at some location at some time < 1617425995 521882 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting idea zzo38 < 1617426018 766538 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although if it is local weather, you can at least check at the time that it is wrong. That won't help for weather in other places though < 1617426036 889363 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on the precision used < 1617426051 284986 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't expect the temperature just outside my house to always be exactly the same to the degree as the weather station some miles away < 1617426071 83450 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, I suppose you are right about that < 1617426094 685021 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is lots of radiation coming from space that is random in arrival time, but also very localized, so it's not suitable < 1617426106 390720 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the arrival times of cosmic radiation as a good local RNG but you can't build distributed consensus from that < 1617426179 680343 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone will get different random numbers (which is of course desirable for a local RNG) < 1617426551 787738 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617432077 836246 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617433202 177076 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617436061 234514 :dincio!~dincio@62.19.207.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617437246 722198 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617437373 776383 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617437935 326509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617438987 148039 :dincio!~dincio@62.19.207.211 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.1 < 1617445857 571963 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how old were your children when you let them use an angle grinder? < 1617445857 822732 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: called a guy who's at the job with me, so why memorize it now?) ircnomic < 1617445931 24766 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny Шrcnomic < 1617445935 362014 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny Ircnomic < 1617446076 883794 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1617446078 911514 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is grammaphobic. < 1617446087 378281 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's last month's password. what's this month's? < 1617446406 912772 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` date < 1617446408 788377 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied < 1617446432 229720 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :` date please < 1617446433 6953 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied < 1617446498 939462 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sudo date < 1617446499 574853 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges? < 1617446529 689982 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date < 1617446530 680819 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`datei < 1617446530 788681 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sat Apr 3 10:42:10 UTC 2021 < 1617446531 521151 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2021-04-03 10:42:10.992 +0000 UTC April 3 Saturday 2021-W13-6 < 1617447947 189054 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617448262 739079 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` grep /usr /proc/mounts < 1617448263 714112 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :none /usr hostfs ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/ 0 0 < 1617450103 946184 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-149-87.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617452700 431107 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a language that demands you to write not [1,2,3] but [1,2,3,] ? < 1617452768 300623 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: yes, but many of the old ones have since been fixed up to accept the latter too < 1617452845 607097 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one related interesting thing is that [7,,9] has a different meaning in perl and in javascript: in perl it's the same as [7,9]; but in javascript there's a missing slot between the 7 and the 9 in the aray < 1617453036 861744 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would allow only the latter < 1617453071 135282 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose we put comma only in between because historically we were writing word sentences before arrays < 1617453083 226122 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there we write: cat, dog, monkey. < 1617453112 772131 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the "." looks almost like "," and so has two roles at the same time -- pointing that it's the end and pointing that before it there is the last element < 1617453139 249263 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while in the arrays syntax the end symbol isn't "." but some bracket < 1617453198 308372 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "1, 2, 3." array syntax would be ok too < 1617453270 96740 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not ok < 1617453293 62285 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ok if there is some autoreplace system in the IDE < 1617453333 743018 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that when I select the last element and the dot and press the "dup" shortcut it dups it replacing the "." with "," in the left copy < 1617453387 707285 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so imagine in code I have a literal like this < 1617453390 346223 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, < 1617453391 218407 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2, < 1617453392 395662 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. < 1617453403 634632 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I select the third line, press dup shortcut and get < 1617453405 139513 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, < 1617453406 872466 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2, < 1617453408 300849 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3, < 1617453410 423162 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. < 1617455202 179382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's at least one language (Go) that demands you write "{\n1,\n2,\n3,\n}" instead of "{\n1,\n2,\n3\n}" -- as in, it requires the comma at an end of each item if it's a comma-separated list (composite literal, function call) that's been split to multiple lines; https://play.golang.org/p/9dx0hNz5I36 is a syntax error. > 1617455422 270532 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07202014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81758&oldid=81718 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+17) 10 < 1617455577 609097 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool > 1617456411 534744 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:PythonshellDebugwindow/RandomNameGenerator14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81759&oldid=71495 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+783) 10Add another "better" Generator > 1617456502 130662 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SPAM/114]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81760&oldid=38799 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+5) 10/* Syntax */ Make all spaces show < 1617459392 515400 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617459478 267923 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617465282 762101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* 10New user account < 1617465327 345394 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee JOIN :#esoteric < 1617465396 178658 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617465880 534554 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81761&oldid=81752 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+323) 10 < 1617466149 776550 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617467081 222690 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81762 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+311) 10Created page with "'''Deskileq''' (Decrement and skip next line if less than or equal to zero) is an OISC esoteric language designed to use only 1 Argument. It uses a memory address which it dec..." > 1617467229 183364 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81763&oldid=81762 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+73) 10 > 1617467436 137696 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81764&oldid=81763 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+12) 10 < 1617467474 840576 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617467767 75980 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-149-87.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617467799 557593 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81765&oldid=81764 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+14) 10 > 1617467928 363804 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81766&oldid=81765 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+55) 10 > 1617468049 698646 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81767&oldid=81766 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+77) 10 > 1617468096 327920 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81768&oldid=81767 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+9) 10 > 1617468291 852773 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81769&oldid=81768 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-99) 10 < 1617468380 875141 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds > 1617469543 761104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81770&oldid=81769 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+3) 10 < 1617469555 604936 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the simpliest regex to cut possible space substrings on both sides of the string? < 1617469577 966656 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1617469578 150100 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" s s s " => "s" < 1617469594 440719 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" s " => "s" < 1617469596 472889 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\s+ < 1617469598 130136 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1617469602 636347 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" s", "s " => "s" < 1617469627 130844 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know in most BASIC dialects LTRIM$ and RTRIM$ do just that, maybe there's an equivalent to that for whatever language you < 1617469627 925608 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, => "s s s" -- fix for my 1st example < 1617469631 265384 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :'re using? < 1617469638 217119 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you want trimming < 1617469645 11853 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, trim spaces < 1617469671 651379 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^\s*(\S*)\s*$/\1/ < 1617469685 335494 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1617469700 894427 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you match only one word < 1617469707 537493 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are right < 1617469723 839140 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be .*, but that would be slow as hell possibly < 1617469733 803695 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't use regex for that, tbh < 1617469759 184757 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if i want to, i'd replace ^\s* and \s*$ with the empty string > 1617469788 418126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81771&oldid=81770 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+29) 10 < 1617469803 279285 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, two regexes will be ok for me I guess > 1617469805 468149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81772&oldid=81771 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-29) 10 < 1617469806 373909 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted one < 1617469827 744454 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to do that with regexes anyways? < 1617469856 664972 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you afraid of regexes? < 1617469860 607882 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1617469869 492547 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am lol < 1617469870 687608 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think they are the right tool for that < 1617469875 11045 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love regexes < 1617469919 401673 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you prefer 10 pages of nested loops instead of this? https://i.imgur.com/DilytEt.png < 1617469965 878541 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but that's not at all comparable < 1617469999 303290 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regexes are nice as long as you can clearly define what to match at each point < 1617470014 606443 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as soon as a naked . comes into play, it can go downhill quite quickly < 1617470070 547369 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this works /\A *(.*?) *\z/ < 1617470156 724325 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://blog.codinghorror.com/regex-performance/ < 1617470221 781669 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you fighting windmills? < 1617470229 441383 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1617470247 726954 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ever wrote a programs that has more than 100 string matching procedures? < 1617470253 789958 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying, that your other regexes are guaranteed to behave nicely, since none of them contains a . < 1617470297 72762 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as soon as you have a .* in it, parsing times can go wild < 1617470310 176512 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, imaginary windmills < 1617470319 649840 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that imaginary? < 1617470335 515974 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are no windmills in my 20 megabytes of text < 1617470335 740451 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a real problem, go try it out for yourself < 1617470351 461905 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried it 100 times today < 1617470405 85787 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is really no reason to prefer the single regex for trimming both ends over one for each left and right trimming < 1617470444 243553 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a clear reason to prefer one over two since one will work < 1617470468 971229 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two will also work, so that's a pretty bad reason < 1617470498 101747 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, you aren't afraid of regex, you are afraid of logic < 1617470506 992923 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is "my code can be shitty since my input is nice", since people train themself this way and sometimes projects tend to gain way more traction than initially thought < 1617470515 969119 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1617470525 734865 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is /\A *(.*?) *\z/ shitty? < 1617470534 54517 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are again fihgting with some imaginary windmills < 1617470536 954266 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling them shitty < 1617470540 85635 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if both work, how is "the one i chose works" a reason to prefer it? < 1617470550 403571 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is better than two < 1617470555 677600 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1617470573 36630 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :come back when you are sober < 1617470574 699078 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignored < 1617470587 972330 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be a tad faster in ruby since it cannot easily compile those into DFAs beforehand < 1617470592 285259 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sober < 1617470612 833425 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these windmill fighters < 1617470631 922552 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with their own imaginary shitty code they imaginge in your code < 1617470633 670483 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has nothing to do with windmill fighting, it's a point of style and efficiency > 1617470634 602012 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81773&oldid=81772 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+82) 10 < 1617470648 168690 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and imaginary coworkers on imaginary projects > 1617470672 145060 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81774&oldid=81773 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+8) 10 < 1617470674 202422 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to waste someone's time on pointless debates < 1617470680 962034 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn to get things done < 1617470696 352554 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :says the guy that needs to ask for like the most basic pcre > 1617470700 217639 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81775&oldid=81774 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-8) 10 < 1617470714 72837 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am getting things done fairly well, thank you < 1617470760 50706 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these "aaahhh! I saw a blogpost in some hype blog! now I can't sleep, I see bad dreams about slow regexes and will annoy other people with it too" < 1617470800 907261 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read many more than that, it was just like the first google result to give you as an entry < 1617470810 428223 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why not just use .strip()? < 1617470820 815845 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could just say "I suck in regexes" if he does not know the answer to my question < 1617470839 354416 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realize i provided you with your answer, do you? < 1617470860 252889 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not thinking about multiple words in a string < 1617470861 84568 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.strip() is most likely more efficient and way more readable < 1617470867 411416 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not thinking about multiline string < 1617470879 811162 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i corrected that like seconds later < 1617470900 428935 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your experience in a subject is this low why do you debate?... rhetorical question < 1617470900 754779 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617470923 653715 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experience is far from being low, thank you < 1617470953 238150 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your experience in ruby is so low that you aren't even aware of strip, why do you use ruby? rhetorical question < 1617470988 941479 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, so much anger over what could be a healthy intellectual debate weighing the pros and cons of regexes and other approaches to stripping whitespace. < 1617471048 937733 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regex is almost always the worst option to trimming. at best, it just compiles down to a dfa that does the exact same thing that strip() will probably do, that is just loop over the string char by char and kick out spaces < 1617471100 799657 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got annoyed because there were no practical arguments, only some imaginary windmills with imaginary data, imaginary regexes, imaginary projects and coworkers, nothing close to the real project I'm working on < 1617471149 311988 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that more than "this doesn't apply to me"? which is a garbage argument to make if the better solution is shorter and more readable < 1617471180 695572 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :on an unrelated note, does anybody know if GitHub Pages support "including" HTML files into other HTML files? < 1617471247 877988 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we don't know you may ask in ##github < 1617471250 547925 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, you could do iframes? < 1617471297 296134 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :No like i could have a header HTML file for the top part of the site, and another one for the bottom. < 1617471326 354398 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with iframes for that? < 1617471344 590065 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use iframes < 1617471452 443585 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could try that < 1617471504 103139 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt that github will do server side processing for github pages < 1617471581 92424 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also some another html tag but it's probably not recommended nowadays < 1617471628 345230 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there are 3-ish tags for that and you _could_ use js to modify the dom, but that's most likely not worth it < 1617471677 665050 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here are some and https://stackoverflow.com/q/8702704/322020 < 1617471692 962972 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there was something different... you could split the page vertically or horizonatlly < 1617471737 492681 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617471839 184218 :deltaepsilon23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617471886 607950 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it < 1617471898 873831 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, don't use framesets < 1617471927 430943 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :framesets are deprecated for like 10 years now < 1617471946 954592 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1617471948 807001 :deltaepsilon23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 NICK :delta23 < 1617472143 37140 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that it is best to use neither iframes nor framesets due to the disadvantages of them, and using server-side includes instead. Any type of frames have disadvantages of losing the URL if links to a different page, and if changing the outer one instead, will fail if frames are resized or if the user specifically wants only the frame. It can also fail with some methods of downloading a document to make a local copy < 1617472312 106524 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the closest NotApplicable will come to their dream is to rely on github's support of Jekyll and https://jekyllrb.com/docs/includes/ < 1617472314 786392 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with modern web, you can mitigate quite a lot of those issues < 1617472383 789178 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But NotApplicable left. < 1617472397 121598 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use memoserv! < 1617472407 480425 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, we have logs for that. < 1617472424 204457 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :send him a memo to check the logs > 1617472513 502276 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81776&oldid=81775 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+0) 10 < 1617473635 507496 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617473704 348123 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried opening an HTML file in konqueror and misspelt the URI and for some reason it started spewing a ton of windows out and i couldnt stop it so i had to reboot < 1617473824 186966 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, konqueror is still a thing? < 1617473901 819263 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont think development is all that active anymore, but yeah < 1617474063 28868 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess its like a midpoint between firefox and arora; lightweight like arora but also capable like firefox > 1617474216 805025 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81777&oldid=81776 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+0) 10 > 1617474390 664505 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81778&oldid=81777 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-9) 10 < 1617474701 404050 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iframe doesn't seem to work for what I need... > 1617474753 630158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81779&oldid=81778 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-1) 10 < 1617474785 842348 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It runs the html in a sandbox-y environment, which is what I feared it would do < 1617474814 219948 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe i could try having a linker thing, and generate the HTML files locally?> > 1617475183 949467 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81780&oldid=81709 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+15) 10 < 1617475993 537371 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-149-87.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617477785 835337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NotApplicable: int-e suggested Jekyll while you were away. < 1617477806 815024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NotApplicable: There's apparently some built-in support for it in GitHub Pages. No idea about the details, but https://docs.github.com/en/pages/setting-up-a-github-pages-site-with-jekyll < 1617477814 540747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's an include mechanism in it.) < 1617477900 880274 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of you have a personal page? and how many of you have a blog? like in percents < 1617477934 662472 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 10% of a personal page? :-P < 1617477938 243300 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I would like to know in percents but idk how we would know the number without giving personal answers < 1617477943 115884 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didnt really want to use Jekyll because I wanted to have alot of control over my content < 1617477960 738781 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I technically have a blog but i rarely use it < 1617477969 124795 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1617477977 800501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't updated mine since late 2014, does that mean the % is exponentially decaying? < 1617477980 550924 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :NotApplicable: at a glance it looked like you can get down to the html level if you want. But I haven't used it. < 1617477983 378093 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say if you didn't update it for 5 years then assume you don't have it < 1617478025 982372 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I tried to have a blog ~10 years ago I could not come up with a decent style < 1617478026 888029 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :NotApplicable: also if you're looking at static site generators I suppose you can also look at others and use them on your end, instead of relying on github to do that for you somewhere in their cloud < 1617478029 422116 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing style < 1617478087 118974 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I hacked together a simple linker that does the includes on my end before I publish the stuff, I am going to see if that works < 1617478087 666445 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then all the interesting findings with big textual commentaries of mine I had were in G+ but it's gone < 1617478117 852254 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NotApplicable: cat in post-receive hooks orks fine < 1617478126 174632 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :been there, done that < 1617478143 703828 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I've bought a domain and I keep paying for it while I can't chose the blog platform to use < 1617478203 714767 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some guy on reddit who made a blog platform specially for coders like a year ago, I even was in Beta, but didn't come up with a content to test it < 1617478234 842587 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this https://coding.blog/ < 1617478242 746804 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use Scratch and Forkphorus and an embed because Scratch is essentially free hosting < 1617478260 266594 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesnt notify everybody when i update it < 1617478270 129422 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AI- driven personalised" -- wtf, I don't remember it was like this < 1617478270 678271 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ideal, but okay < 1617478310 123936 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only thing is i cant use profanities which isnt that big of a problem < 1617478379 873958 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I host on Google Cloud Storage (analogue of AWS S3) but it'll go down when I stop paying for GCP account (because I not only use free services) and also because of the "account inactivity" disabling thing on Google < 1617478403 257428 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im a cheapo so i dont like paying for anything < 1617478426 759599 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCS and S3 is basically free < 1617478453 592136 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pay only 0.(0)1$ for uploading the static page < 1617478490 836961 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not, I guess there is also a Free quota for uploading < 1617478493 590684 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's fully free < 1617478570 85823 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my friends on GH use something called infinity free which claims to be 100% free, no ads, and unlimited storage < 1617478570 233823 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounds too good to be true IMO < 1617478578 220928 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :5GB of free storage https://cloud.google.com/storage/pricing#cloud-storage-always-free < 1617478627 147234 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean i font really have alot of stuff on my site so i could try that < 1617478628 608397 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt there is anything infinity-free with direct links to pages < 1617478646 472557 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were two unlimited cloud file storages and one is gone already < 1617478666 603577 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont think infinity-free does free SSL though < 1617478701 437098 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTPS is free for GCS only if you access via their domain, not yours < 1617478761 997065 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example http://www.nakilon.pro/esolang.htm vs https://storage.googleapis.com/www.nakilon.pro/esolang.htm < 1617478788 60220 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the JS on the latter is even broken, didn't check why, probably because of HTTP/HTTPS security policies < 1617478827 861329 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could add HTTPS for my domain via Google Cloud but that would need some non-free Balancer service IIRC < 1617478854 528615 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or via the domain registration, no big difference I guess < 1617479080 832249 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont really care for the domain, as long as its functional, its fine for me < 1617479162 477779 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617479222 627599 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-149-87.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1617479226 918776 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617479240 747038 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :checked, the JS is broken because it fetches HTTP: fetch("http:// < 1617479346 905452 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1617479623 690611 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both Russian cloud platforms are cheaper than GCP and AWS but still don't have Always Free Tier ( < 1617479678 766225 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a HTTP (as well as Gopher and NNTP) service on my computer, but not a "personal page" or a "blog". < 1617479686 822644 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume they are cheaper because they have lower number of "9" in SLA but that's not critical at all for Free Tier users < 1617479783 829777 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 was interesting to read about this thing I've discovered recently https://sdf.org/?tour/history/index < 1617479792 875231 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDF_Public_Access_Unix_System < 1617479798 533835 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, https://cloudatcost.com/ seems to have increased their prices. But I'm sure their service is as awful as ever ;) < 1617480073 343014 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617480301 239573 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1617480433 350348 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an English idiom for https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%85 < 1617480570 193619 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not any that I can think of, really. < 1617480951 52443 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617480992 104661 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which programming languages other than PostScript use marks on the stack to make lists like PostScript does? (There probably are some, but I don't know what they are) < 1617481551 397076 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://esolangs.org/wiki/GML sort of does, but you can't actually manipulate the mark as if it was a normal value < 1617481554 311237 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not really < 1617481566 155218 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe blsq did? I don't remember < 1617481767 941157 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Ghostscript, some of the new operators (and also the standard pdfmark operator) use a list which has not been made into its own object, for efficiency. However, I can think of another way, which does not require this, instead deferring making the array/dictionary objects; this might only be done for optimized procedures, possibly "executeonly" operator might do such optimizations (after "bind" is also used) < 1617482366 70118 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: OK > 1617482525 682772 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81781&oldid=81615 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+244) 10 > 1617482705 856105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81782&oldid=81756 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+0) 10/* Thue-Morse sequence */ < 1617482885 942630 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen a complaint that when pdfmark is used that you write [ without a matching ] and they apparently didn't know why; well, if you don't like that, then you can write the word "mark" instead of "[" it means the same thing. < 1617487084 869189 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1617488725 297177 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-peysgtidewbsedqi JOIN :#esoteric < 1617490512 594667 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1617494326 615390 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskileq14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81783&oldid=81779 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+50) 10/* Examples */ Cats < 1617495126 955778 :guest!62f8d40a@98.248.212.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617495145 218938 :guest!62f8d40a@98.248.212.10 QUIT :Client Quit < 1617498311 899128 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Ping timeout: 615 seconds < 1617499634 913482 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1617499635 129320 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a nontrivial unicode string < 1617499715 435148 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\_(ツ)_/¯ < 1617499718 207041 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1617499807 543078 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1617500048 562883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? haiku < 1617500051 266687 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🀨や⛄ < 1617500875 568052 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617500951 855551 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617501903 902224 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-peysgtidewbsedqi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1617502385 226477 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@99-68-245-174.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617503095 458620 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles QUIT :*.net *.split < 1617503095 605592 :mich181189!sid268336@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mgbpeejxnyhmkzjp QUIT :*.net *.split < 1617503096 121349 :j-bot!~jbot@hagall.firefly.nu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1617503096 426556 :dnm!sid401311@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jlbdejveapityhzq QUIT :*.net *.split < 1617503109 917570 :ocharles!sid30093@musicbrainz/user/ocharles JOIN :#esoteric < 1617503111 971876 :j-bot!~jbot@hagall.firefly.nu JOIN :#esoteric < 1617503125 936083 :mich181189!sid268336@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gokhclyudqvzztap JOIN :#esoteric < 1617503133 4509 :dnm!sid401311@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-trwjaoytkbwefale JOIN :#esoteric < 1617503892 333810 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of esolangs, im making my own programming language < 1617503896 489676 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a domain specific langauge < 1617505012 246217 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. What programming language is it, and what is it for? < 1617506103 594363 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also have designed some domain specific programming languages; that is what Free Hero Mesh is.) < 1617506119 989854 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also had some ideas about other domain specific programming languages, such as solitaire cards, and Magic: the Gathering cards, too.) < 1617506243 742339 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its for a video related program, i dont have a name for it yet < 1617506257 424788 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1617506275 803772 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of free hero, how is that going < 1617506312 519091 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is probably in a state ready to be used normally now, although more testing would help, and there are also some more features which may be added later < 1617506479 351957 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to test it, or try to make up your own puzzle, feature suggestions, bug reports, question (that I can add into the FAQ section), etc, then you can do so. < 1617516546 861985 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617516604 824466 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-137-7.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617517707 611432 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617518539 562951 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617522415 823885 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-137-7.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1617523672 474962 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Transceternal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81784&oldid=74559 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+1635) 10Add TIO links < 1617523885 785574 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617523982 762908 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617524037 688412 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617524382 523066 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* 10moved [[02Deskileq10]] to [[Deskin]]: Old name sounded bad and didn't correspond with the examples > 1617524405 550237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81787&oldid=81785 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-2) 10 > 1617524602 93993 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81788&oldid=81787 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-46) 10 > 1617524645 767348 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81789&oldid=81780 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-2) 10/* D */ > 1617524658 188671 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81790&oldid=81788 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-1) 10 > 1617526774 623926 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81791&oldid=81790 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+0) 10 < 1617528848 622680 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617530373 759095 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617530541 798265 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1617531181 803938 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81792&oldid=81791 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-1) 10 > 1617531217 439512 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81793&oldid=81792 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+0) 10 > 1617531708 762389 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81794&oldid=81793 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+128) 10 > 1617531792 87773 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81795&oldid=81794 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+60) 10 > 1617536189 73172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81796&oldid=81795 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+26) 10 > 1617536310 695640 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81797&oldid=81796 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-5) 10 > 1617536453 817275 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81798&oldid=81797 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-62) 10 > 1617536482 834920 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81799&oldid=81798 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-7) 10 > 1617536492 137792 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81800&oldid=81799 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-11) 10 < 1617537202 385559 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arcsor5: is it a low-level image processing language? or a video cutting language? < 1617537291 223791 :user24!~user24@p200300c3af3163342d8c8fcf7923895a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617537291 445906 :user24!~user24@p200300c3af3163342d8c8fcf7923895a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit > 1617537975 122564 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81801&oldid=81800 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+54) 10 < 1617538511 755278 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617538540 308778 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617539404 505499 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81802&oldid=81801 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-45) 10 < 1617539801 990811 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1617541486 918695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode $(\? haiku) < 1617541488 355555 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F028 MAHJONG TILE AUTUMN] [U+3084 HIRAGANA LETTER YA] [U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW] > 1617542598 543785 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Forest14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81803 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+8195) 10+[[Forest]] > 1617542601 425349 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81804&oldid=81789 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+13) 10+[[Forest]] > 1617542603 979059 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh40014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81805&oldid=81269 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+13) 10+[[Forest]] < 1617542757 761857 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617543053 801753 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1617544326 746264 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03SCKelemen 5* 10New user account < 1617544699 485503 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :buying plane tickets is too risky an undertaking. You can reload a page and buy for tomorrow instead of the intended date. Meh < 1617544703 215428 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1617545109 456820 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as somebody working in aviation industry, i fully agree > 1617546192 215860 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81806&oldid=81761 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+572) 10Add myself > 1617546200 659414 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81807 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+1681) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Nomad |paradigms=functional, probabilistic |author=[[Async Engineering]] |year=[[:Category:2018|2018]] |typesys=static |memsys=stack-based |refimpl=[h..." > 1617546569 82098 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81808&oldid=81807 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+101) 10 > 1617547146 404122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81809&oldid=81808 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+342) 10 > 1617547208 33873 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81810&oldid=81809 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+2) 10 < 1617548106 539055 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617548107 554449 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric > 1617548919 68304 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dotsy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81811&oldid=72540 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+32) 10Stub && Language > 1617549417 477748 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81812&oldid=81802 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+79) 10 > 1617549523 605609 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81813&oldid=81812 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-64) 10 > 1617549788 412321 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81814&oldid=81813 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-6) 10 < 1617549995 969446 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: and they never tell you timezones or UTC times, only localtimes < 1617550145 213278 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, that’s quite inconvenient too, though usually there is a flight time so at least you can calculate something more or less easily < 1617550177 518688 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: oh > 1617550407 652082 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DINAC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81815&oldid=79191 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+3) 10/* Cat program */ Make the program better < 1617550621 964784 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will get worse if the European politicians force timezone changes on us < 1617550640 296523 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because currently I at least more or less understand European timezones < 1617550671 55661 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the politicians insist on causing chaos, I'll be afraid > 1617550950 332782 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stu14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81816&oldid=79418 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+4) 10/* Truth-machine */ now < 1617551047 100497 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617551805 860233 :deltaepsilon23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617551950 595207 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07XENBLN14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81817&oldid=78509 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1) 10/* Program structure */ Fxi a typo < 1617551953 113966 :deltaepsilon23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Client Quit > 1617552094 612773 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07XENBLN/Commands14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81818&oldid=78510 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-4) 10April already? > 1617552144 530206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07XENBLN14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81819&oldid=81817 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+0) 10/* Commands */ The date is updated now. > 1617552454 632749 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07XENBLN14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81820&oldid=81819 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+5) 10/* Datatypes */ Fix code tag. < 1617552456 849371 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1617553164 880360 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin > 1617554141 805375 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81821&oldid=81814 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+170) 10 > 1617554188 590584 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81822&oldid=81821 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-4) 10 > 1617554331 343300 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81823&oldid=81822 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+2) 10 > 1617554375 5876 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81824&oldid=81823 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-1) 10 > 1617554531 872283 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81825&oldid=81824 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+112) 10 > 1617554554 700203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81826&oldid=81825 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+0) 10 > 1617554728 412573 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81827&oldid=81826 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+32) 10 > 1617554777 38872 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81828&oldid=81827 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-32) 10 > 1617556120 817826 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81829&oldid=81828 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-12) 10 > 1617556195 90118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81830&oldid=81829 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+6) 10 > 1617556249 876791 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81831&oldid=81830 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+3) 10 > 1617556332 731169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81832&oldid=81831 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+0) 10 < 1617556908 874384 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what’s be wrought? I usually don’t read or watch any news whatsoever, partially to shield myself from political opininon machinations as much as possible, but in the result I’m not up to date even with something purely scientific < 1617556916 686231 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :let alone that < 1617557874 28421 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys have wall clocks? < 1617557936 243402 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at home < 1617558697 561056 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an analog one, but the battery died a while ago so it's stuck on 4:57:10 < 1617558883 269322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what's up EU-wise is some talks about potential changes to daylight savings, like stopping doing it, or keeping it permanently on. < 1617558932 57307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_time_in_Europe#Future ends with "as of October 2020", I don't know if anything's happened since then. < 1617559337 579547 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, the thing has been lingering in the council of ministers since march 2019? < 1617559364 463675 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was closer to the covid mess... so what's the excuse :-/ < 1617559426 302162 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm bureaucracy < 1617559433 187326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to be kind of funny if NI ends up in a different time zone half the year than rest of Ireland. < 1617559488 267534 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617560657 592558 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81833&oldid=81832 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+40) 10 > 1617560870 176116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81834&oldid=81833 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-2) 10 < 1617560899 163429 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a clock on the wall, but I do have clocks with batteries, so that I can know what time it is if the power is off < 1617560904 202236 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so it's stuck on 4:57:10" -- that's a weird time to stuck on < 1617560959 814746 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(When the power is off, the timer on the stove and microwave doesn't work, so I used the alarm hand on the clock to mark the beginning of some interval, and kept track of how many minutes have passed by using that.) < 1617560977 689934 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to save the light waste globally people should fight the stupid increasing of size and power of videocards < 1617560983 848646 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course, that isn't what the alarm hand is for, but it will work.) < 1617561030 796577 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamers don't realise they are already paying a ton for that stupid piece of metal just to be able to play some very badly made game < 1617561094 622621 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the older games without that many advanced graphics; the more advanced graphics are sometimes making it difficult to see what it is anyways, compared with simpler 2D graphics < 1617561106 863820 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that graphics is rarely really advanced < 1617561119 114446 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the RTX realtime illumination is such a fake < 1617561155 745073 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although many modern computer programs are too inefficient anyways, whether it is the graphics or something else < 1617561174 82506 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all renders wrongly, all the lights and shadows are pointing in wrong directions, and updates with very very low resolution only a few times per second so the whole point of "realtime" is just a lie < 1617561196 910342 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it is really badly designed, I suppose > 1617561452 642064 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81835&oldid=81834 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-41) 10 < 1617561610 336495 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : do you guys have wall clocks? => just a single one. I set it up when the battery dies but don’t use it as it’s too high and I don’t like analog clocks anyway. Though I glance at room temperature and humidity that same clock displays < 1617561650 241532 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :temperature indicator is a cool thing < 1617561758 112494 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617561841 906949 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I don’t think temp that high in the air is useful to know. Higher than my head level < 1617561945 106217 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have temperature on the desk. But, why is there a gap in the red part of the temperature? < 1617561959 261723 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also have temperature in the computer.) < 1617562182 867190 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1617562283 797905 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what gap? < 1617562414 311903 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therei s a gap. It is red, up to the number of the temperature, but there is a gap in it, rather than being solid red. < 1617562635 512286 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah I seem to understand < 1617562701 975889 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :my clock shows an arrow for the temp but zzo38’s is probably an old liquid column one, how’s it called < 1617562714 365513 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a hole in the column of several thermometers too < 1617562718 243093 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nuisanse < 1617562731 747525 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :you almost never are able to fix that :( < 1617562742 711251 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it even appear < 1617562759 38528 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :liquid is usually a red colored alcohol but I'm still not sure what you mean, nvm though < 1617562801 924260 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be even in mercury thermometers, though mercury is supposed to be at a very low pressure there, so no reason to not stick together < 1617562839 516077 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: there is presumably a bubble in it which doesn’t, well, bubble up and away for some reason. At least in my cases that was so > 1617562865 824757 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81836&oldid=81835 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+51) 10 < 1617562877 898638 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the reason is more or less clear, surface tension, but that doesn’t make things better) < 1617562991 147033 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this? https://cooking.stackexchange.com/q/73870/85558 < 1617563130 129955 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is like that but the gap isn't that wide; it is a narrow gap < 1617564248 510499 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617564370 991473 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617564544 785667 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1617565186 111249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81837&oldid=81836 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+0) 10 < 1617565393 589683 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@45.144.113.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617565547 386848 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617565570 520674 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617565690 107376 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617565751 128769 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1617566474 277360 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07THIS IS NOT A BRAINFUCK DERIVATIVE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81838&oldid=81696 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+23) 10/* Cat */ Cat[egory] > 1617567079 525793 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81839&oldid=81804 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+12) 10/* N */ [[Nomad]] > 1617567137 918072 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81840&oldid=81782 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+412) 10/* Example programs */ added a look-and-say sequence program < 1617568406 380393 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617568519 575184 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1617568840 71332 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81841&oldid=81837 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-51) 10 > 1617568871 206588 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81842&oldid=81841 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+9) 10 > 1617568984 35908 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81843&oldid=81842 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-9) 10 > 1617569124 336713 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81844&oldid=81843 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+80) 10 > 1617569291 463342 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81845&oldid=81844 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-1) 10 < 1617570030 949420 :leo40!5dff832c@p5dff832c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617570079 338985 :harha_!~harha@ns356919.ip-91-121-144.eu QUIT :Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in < 1617570097 854922 :leo40!5dff832c@p5dff832c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit > 1617570402 764055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81846&oldid=81845 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+9) 10 > 1617570797 787584 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81847&oldid=81806 5* 03A esolang user 5* (+1) 10I restore my terrible mistake of having put my introduction before that of [[User:ColorfulGalaxy|ColorfulGalaxy]]. Im sorry. < 1617570839 360472 :harha_!~harha@ns356919.ip-91-121-144.eu JOIN :#esoteric > 1617570979 694612 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81848 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+227) 10Create template "AlgorithmStep" > 1617571534 639831 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81849&oldid=81848 5* 03Icecream17 5* (-32) 10Use built-in numbered list > 1617571724 351781 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81850&oldid=81849 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+28) 10Use another template < 1617572643 780165 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recently I misspelled a URL in a message on Usenet, and I did not notice until after I posted the message, so to fix it I added a symlink. < 1617572725 628715 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know who else has done a similar thing.) > 1617572829 742551 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Variable14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81851 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+317) 10Create template "Variable" > 1617572930 879351 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81852&oldid=81850 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+1) 10Oops forgot > 1617572977 295178 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81853&oldid=81852 5* 03Icecream17 5* (-40) 10Move ismethod to variable > 1617573059 257713 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Sandbox14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81854 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+29) 10Created page with "{{User:Icecream17/Algorithm}}" > 1617573164 585134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81855&oldid=81854 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+44) 10 > 1617573214 347650 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Variable14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81856&oldid=81851 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+86) 10 > 1617573410 252979 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81857&oldid=81853 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+1) 10 > 1617573728 534743 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81858&oldid=81857 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+39) 10param argument > 1617573772 419110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Variable14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81859&oldid=81856 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+1) 10 > 1617573862 111864 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81860&oldid=81855 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+422) 10Add algorithms < 1617575270 348432 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@45.144.113.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the usenet post. i haven't seen posts from you on there for some time. What newsgroups are you frequenting now? < 1617575315 858882 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rec.arts.int-fiction is the newsgroup that I posted it to; the message ID is <1617220312.bystand@zzo38computer.org> < 1617575385 670174 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't post a lot of messages, but sometimes I do. < 1617576237 735469 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "similar thing"? I guess redirecting in wiki is similar > 1617576310 71212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Alone 5* 10New user account < 1617576384 170043 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_misspellings < 1617576600 432240 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, once here I mentioned I can't remember how to spell 'necessary' < 1617576617 119208 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appeared to be on this list https://www.lexico.com/grammar/common-misspellings > 1617577352 694380 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Grammar14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81861 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+49) 10Created page with "{{{0|}}}" > 1617577434 821231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Grammar14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81862&oldid=81861 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+0) 10? > 1617577898 586633 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Grammar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81863&oldid=81862 5* 03Icecream17 5* (-6) 10 > 1617578009 268619 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Grammar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81864&oldid=81863 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+17) 10 < 1617578011 948541 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is also a similar thing < 1617578028 390288 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although, it is a bit different thing) > 1617578327 716129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Grammar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81865&oldid=81864 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+4) 10ugh tables cant be in paragraphs > 1617578695 213855 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Grammar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81866&oldid=81865 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+1) 10adjust font size < 1617578724 26211 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617579034 154882 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Sans Serif14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81867 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+53) 10Created page with "{{{1|}}}" > 1617579139 782562 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Icecream17 5* 10moved [[02User:Icecream17/Sans Serif10]] to [[User:Icecream17/Sans serif]]: Oops wrong capitalization < 1617579697 57005 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds > 1617581388 332520 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Grammar Explanation14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81870 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+3999) 10took too long to make < 1617582491 807064 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617583149 692566 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81871&oldid=81858 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+26) 10skipsteps option > 1617583309 125986 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81872&oldid=81871 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+64) 10description > 1617583352 850929 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81873&oldid=81872 5* 03Icecream17 5* (-3) 10formatting < 1617583413 287274 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1617583805 577661 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617587094 177405 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1617587346 935866 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617587417 256133 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-doltfppulyslazvr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1617587663 387456 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1617587752 9213 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs JOIN :#esoteric < 1617588046 288241 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1617588448 603045 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617588678 902407 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will they add a "tail-only" calling convention into LLVM? > 1617589663 393710 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Grammar Explanation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81874&oldid=81870 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+1103) 10more explanation < 1617590272 684914 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is a tail calling convention, but not a tail only calling convention, it look like) > 1617592897 747157 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Semeler14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81875 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+3402) 10draft > 1617593119 94353 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Variable/doc14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81876 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+1923) 10documentation > 1617593726 116642 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/documentation14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81877 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+546) 10create documentation template > 1617593783 821102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Variable14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81878&oldid=81859 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+329) 10add documentation > 1617594035 432459 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Variable/doc14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81879&oldid=81876 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+546) 10addd nothing > 1617594286 900941 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/documentation/doc14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81880 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+313) 10documentation documentation < 1617598624 568813 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@45.144.113.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617605474 871730 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617605703 896211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617607967 797580 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1617608133 719039 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617610011 810678 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617610149 774266 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617610242 53750 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07D14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81881&oldid=81466 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+433) 10Added Project Euler Problem 1 code based on Fizzbuzz < 1617613820 5053 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-217-95.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617615569 111063 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617615914 971989 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"do you guys have wall clocks" => no, I hate those. my relatives have wall clocks, and they show the wrong time all the time. what's even the point of having a clock if you don't set it to the correct time? and many of them emit a loud clicking noise every second, and are analog with two or three dials that makes it hard to read. < 1617615982 182750 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on that topic, i hate people who have clocks set to the wrong time intentionally because they just aren't able to leave the house 5 minutes earlier < 1617615992 182716 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a cheap battery-powered digital LCD clock that's usually at my desk next to a digital thermometer, but sometimes I carry it to the kitchen to use as a kitchen timer, plus the digital LED clock built into the oven, plus my mobile phone and the desktop computer as clocks. all these I do set to the correct time. < 1617616001 348647 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no analog clocks and nothing that gives clicky noises. < 1617616270 189749 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: ^ < 1617616370 711084 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: my relatives don't do that, but they bought this stupid radio clock that supposedly sets itself to the correct time automatically, but then it went wrong (a dial miscalibrated itself) so now it consistently sets itself to the wrong time (you know what Douglas Adams says about things that can't break) yet they still keep it on the wall. at least that only annoys me when I am at their home, < 1617616401 192917 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike when they refused to throw away the electric kettle whose mechanism to stop heating when the water boils went wrong and so never turned off. < 1617616418 635338 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1617616455 745845 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus they never set the clock in the car, so that shows the wrong time too < 1617616483 735339 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know people that liked the idea of one clock of the discworld universe so much, they built something similar. it ticks irregularly, but still shows (roughly) the correct time < 1617616517 725190 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I think that's the Dune universe, not the Discworld universe. it's for not attracting sandworms. < 1617616573 604317 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://roryokane.github.io/vetinari-clock-simulator/ < 1617616865 419298 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should be glad the car is not one of those from a few decades ahead in the US, the ones that are controlled by a computer connected to the internet so anyone can remotely make your car misbehave < 1617616932 37894 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe kettle can be fixed > 1617616950 121087 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03SCKelemen 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Records-hasse.png10]]" > 1617617292 319997 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03SCKelemen 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Types-hasse.png10]]" > 1617617618 33225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03SCKelemen 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Record-union-hasse.png10]]" > 1617617626 167831 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81885&oldid=81810 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+622) 10 < 1617619239 317786 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617621438 182913 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-217-95.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617621795 421735 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: reboot < 1617623164 318803 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric > 1617625871 979051 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81886&oldid=81885 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+60) 10Add appropriate categories < 1617625951 567732 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao < 1617625987 639490 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gave one guy a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8igrh1eyLk < 1617626016 195321 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says "what do the say? I can't English" < 1617626026 559205 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say "don't you remember the movie plot?" < 1617626030 398794 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I didn't see it" < 1617626050 708012 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he really thinks it's some Jimm Carrey movie that he hasn't seen < 1617626543 833665 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617626903 173519 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Macron14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81887&oldid=81647 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+17) 10fix minor typo < 1617627344 964282 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1617627770 698411 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[074194304000000000000000000000014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81888 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+190) 10Created page with "[[41943040000000000000000000000]] will be an [[esolang]] and will be made during 2022 indisputably. 41943040000000000000000000000 is (to be) a [[Macron|very real esolang]]. ..." > 1617627786 305814 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Category:202214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81889 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+11) 10Created page with "{{Yearcat}}" < 1617627930 325770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubling down on it, I see. < 1617628053 906789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what (if anything) we should do about that. > 1617628075 773779 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Heavpoot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81890&oldid=81229 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+11) 10 < 1617628277 740117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The so-called "fix minor typo" edit is again adding that nonsense 2026 category that was reverted three times.) > 1617628745 533461 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TwoFiftyFive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81891&oldid=73252 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+32) 10 < 1617628919 487761 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's already in Category:Years, lol < 1617629172 31585 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1617629629 611985 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Macron14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81892&oldid=81887 5* 03Int-e 5* (-17) 10Fix minor typo. Isn't this fun? > 1617629696 434095 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Macron14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81893&oldid=81892 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+17) 10oops, you accidentally hit "backspace" instead of "ctrl+c ctrl+v ctrl+v (select previous 2 words) ctrl+c ctrl+v ctrl+v". but don't worry, i'll fix it partially for you! > 1617629843 581157 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Macron14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81894&oldid=81893 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10Did you know that 2021 = 43*47? Seriously though, please stop this nonsense. > 1617630155 312202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Macron14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81895&oldid=81605 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+282) 10 < 1617630198 950301 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happy that the problem has been identified so clearly. < 1617630240 772257 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 20^22 < 1617630243 63045 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 41943040000000000000000000000 < 1617630281 598602 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that explains that name, at least. < 1617630337 489062 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only explain thing I see here so far < 1617630340 772229 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*explained > 1617630454 485721 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Macron14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81896&oldid=81894 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+0) 10fine. updated to reflect actual date of creation. "2021" is not substantially substantiated by substantial evidence. > 1617630533 535060 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Macron14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81897&oldid=81895 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+475) 10/* 2026 denial propaganda */ ... > 1617630670 709492 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Macron14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81898&oldid=81897 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+16) 10 < 1617630681 942344 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, 2007 now? > 1617630738 926724 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Suptiftam14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81899 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+7075) 10Create page > 1617630786 551200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81900&oldid=81839 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+16) 10/* S */ +[[Suptiftam]] < 1617630857 756377 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program structure < 1617630857 864696 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Grasp program consists of a set of nodes. < 1617630859 891889 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I guess I don't mind it joining the 2007 crowd. It's far less obstrusive than making a language appear in its own bogus category.) < 1617630869 816215 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, I read as "consists of a set of nudes." > 1617631042 699061 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:PythonshellDebugwindow14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81901&oldid=81235 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+50) 10/* Languages */ +[[Suptiftam]] > 1617631197 161449 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Heavpoot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81902&oldid=81555 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+5552) 10[[User:Truttle1|Truttle1]] ([[User talk:Truttle1|talk]]) < 1617631238 237618 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617631338 119110 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1617631451 141010 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-152-133.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617631642 854265 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, "obtrusive"... I finally realized why that word looked so wrong. < 1617631704 135606 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mixed in a bit of "obstructive", maybe I can pretent it was a portmanteau... < 1617631721 205425 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But given the number of other typos I'm making these days... < 1617631789 742653 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe is there was a " TwilightSparkle" user it's Heavypot < 1617631805 821401 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*if there < 1617631826 379565 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see Sept 7 2020 message here https://esolangs.org/wiki/User_talk:SunnyMoon < 1617631881 17223 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the " 09:54, 21 July 2020 (UTC)" on the Introduce yourself > 1617632329 777978 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Heavpoot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81903&oldid=81902 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (-28169) 10__NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__

Welcome to '''Esolang''', the [[esoteric < 1617632585 206671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDGI > 1617632877 413706 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Heavpoot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81904&oldid=81890 5* 03Heavpoot 5* (+197) 10 > 1617633124 67055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Zirconium14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81905&oldid=81706 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+166) 10 > 1617633295 346428 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Zirconium14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81906&oldid=77797 5* 03RocketRace 5* (-62) 10Fix the incorrect 0@0 code pattern < 1617633473 408609 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:f973:26b2:84a5:5b5f JOIN :#esoteric > 1617633767 409221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81907&oldid=81847 5* 03RocketRace 5* (-66) 10remove deadname > 1617633847 229792 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Suptiftam14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81908&oldid=81899 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+14) 10/* Cat program */ Fix < 1617634170 645592 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:f973:26b2:84a5:5b5f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617634192 376940 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:ad41:41d6:e97f:745f JOIN :#esoteric > 1617636108 364744 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Excela14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81909&oldid=61935 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+85) 10/* External resources */ Add link < 1617637545 354032 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617637998 379095 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1617638743 140842 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: we live in the 21st century among cheap consumer goods. it's cheaper to buy a new kettle than to try to fix a security bug in one. but sure, if my father intended to fix it, that would have been fine. but they didn't. < 1617639175 373503 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the consumerism lvl 80 < 1617639212 297464 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving some metal thing that got shifted inside the kettle because of some vibration does not cost more than buy a new one < 1617639303 10449 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibillionairs are just allowing you to temporary posess some extra money to spend them so irrationally to make an illusion that they made the money in a rational and fair way < 1617639303 549112 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: metal? only the heating element is metal. most of it is plastic. < 1617639317 902334 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean the tiny electronics thing? < 1617639324 38136 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that might be metal, but just barely < 1617639360 81367 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it's consumerism. if you want tea cheaply, go and keep cleaning your municipal gas oven. < 1617639375 975730 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some stuff in there with different temperature expansion coefficients that when it gets hot the metal contact is making a contact < 1617639415 832347 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the way these cheap electric kettles usually die. mine lasted for five years. it's a bit sad, I wish they died the opposite way, with the heat sensor shutting it down instead of keeping it on, but it's the second one that did this so it looks likea trend. < 1617639423 617650 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :consumerism is an illness < 1617639452 5841 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw on youtube how some american sold his lawn mower just because it ran out of fuel < 1617639463 454031 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :different temperature expansion coefficients? possible, but I think they only do that in gas heaters that must work safely without electricity. I think the electronic ones just use a resistive temperature element and a relay < 1617639477 790467 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude bought it for $20 or something, filled it with a fuel and sold for $100 < 1617639506 37167 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, if you want to find extreme examples of stupidity, you can always look on the internet. that doesn't mean that the typical person is that stupid < 1617639518 469310 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because consumerism made that guy so stupid he can't refule his lawn mower and assumes "it's broken, meh, I'll buy a new one" < 1617639550 228290 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not an electrician, I'm not going to repair an unsafe high voltage appliance and possibly shock myself or make it even more unsafe, when it's a just cheap kettle that served for five years. < 1617639552 134731 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1617639574 297443 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not saying every person should fix thing himself < 1617639601 982223 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my father might be qualified, but I don't think even he would want to touch these, because these aren't consumer-repairable, the plastic can't be safely opened and closed. < 1617639607 801079 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would give it my friend electrician and he would fix it for a cup of tea < 1617639638 320601 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must have a screw < 1617639676 947651 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do exactly one sort of self-repair on these: clean the hard water chalk from it, from the main body with citric acid (vinegar works too but I dislike it), and from the filter by mechanical means < 1617639682 305995 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my plastic electric teapot has 10 screw on the bottom, just checked < 1617639714 263276 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't those screws for replacing the cable to the mains electricity? < 1617639720 638257 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be something you can do at home < 1617639739 428090 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can you fix the temperature shutdown with those too? < 1617639744 870995 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make tea out of Bonaqua water that is the only here available that's isn't hard enough so the chalk^W salt does not appear in it at all < 1617639784 795930 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did have the broken thermal element fixed in the gas convector heater, because that one costs much more than an electric kettle and would be much more of a hassle to replace, while repairing it isn't too bad < 1617639809 737690 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing that can't be disassempled are stupid apple devices, lol < 1617639827 934201 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, everything can be disassembled. the hard part is assembling it afterwards. < 1617639839 332834 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1617639861 529157 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in this case it's a high voltage appliance that you use in the kitchen with water, so you have to be careful, you can cause more damage if you assemble it wrong < 1617639909 485195 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the gas heater is even worse, that one I'm officially not even allowed to touch unless I'm formally qualified; for the kettle you only have to be practically qualified) < 1617639953 444331 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be qualifications to touch the code < 1617640023 460584 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what "code"? < 1617640024 771112 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :software? < 1617640055 944305 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, legal prohibition of your employees to touch specific parts of it < 1617640084 771595 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, anyone can touch software, the dayjob company just might not accept contributions from anyone, or not give the sourcecode to anyone, but it requires no formal qualification, just normal judgement of who we employ and how much we trust our employees < 1617640119 750402 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by touching I mean applying the edits < 1617640125 25605 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :formal qualification is required for doctors, lawyers, and gas repairmen. that's about it. < 1617640146 743896 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: yes, anyone can do that to their own computer. even if they do stupid things like add security bugs. and I will stand up for their rights to do that. < 1617640151 235932 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't mean I'll run their code. < 1617640172 105625 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use electric kettles that they have repaired < 1617640179 614611 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, a HTTL/CSS guy touched PHP server configs and has exposed the access tokens of thousands of users to everyone -- he should pay for this < 1617640293 290035 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same if he went to the office kitchen and got into the teapot and made it risky to use since then < 1617640296 670611 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, we employers are protected about this, the employer usually can't punish us for mere incompetence, and can't make us pay damages for them. they also need not allow us to modify code on their servers of course. < 1617640322 755466 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a myth < 1617640383 317150 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we also wouldn't allow most employees to repair the electric kettle < 1617640389 70415 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an average HTML/CSS is always a friend of CTO and/or CEO and so is allowed to touch any piece of code and launch any programs < 1617640409 494507 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah they say the same < 1617640410 859067 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: no, because our CEOs aren't *stupid* < 1617640421 278787 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say this too < 1617640437 223206 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I know the CEOs in person. this is a small company < 1617640445 649972 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why laws were invented thousands of years ago < 1617640452 977327 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the "we aren't stupid" is a lie < 1617640529 484591 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT is just mature enough for people to realise they should make laws that if you touch the code you don't have to touch you must pay and not blame someone in that he allowed you to do it -- that's a separate fault < 1617640537 108208 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*isn't mature < 1617640597 689623 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'll stop because this won't be a productive conversation < 1617640741 273477 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I worked in companies of sizes 8, 12, 20, 100, 2000, 5000, 30000 -- adequate CEOs were only in 100 and 5000, adequate CTOs only in 20 and 5000 < 1617640745 276746 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a business < 1617640790 843114 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't believe in myths, the software industry is crap, it has no regulations and no mandatory qualification checks < 1617641747 914399 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally a 90s radio with the rest of the music I vaguely remember from the dark days my consciousness was forming. You wouldn’t believe how hard a coupon collector’s problem it is to tie all the ends, though all of them is not a priority — simply just when I hear something I think I heard earlier I’m a little happier and a little more surprised: “still haven’t been found earlier?!” Though there are real mysteries out there < 1617641748 61951 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are probably from 00s, like some Japanese-sounding thing with weird harmony, but slow (so probably no J-pop? 120bpm but slow in the way melodic phrases were built) and I hadn’t presence of mind to record that excerpt. A car driven away from my window, forever. *That one* is real rosebud, and probably I won’t hear that song again ever < 1617641771 79429 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:ad41:41d6:e97f:745f QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617641784 433211 :NotApplicable2!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:ad41:41d6:e97f:745f JOIN :#esoteric < 1617641832 479678 :NotApplicable2!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:ad41:41d6:e97f:745f NICK :NotApplicable < 1617641834 711113 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617641835 790942 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1617642791 50840 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-152-133.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1617644335 813409 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :{?} Instant ;; Target permanent gains protection from everything until end of turn. ;; Cycling {2} < 1617644366 362162 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shadowmonger {3B} Creature - Shade Monger (2/3) ;; {2}: Target creature gains shadow until end of turn. Any player can use this ability. < 1617644557 760458 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this helloworld? < 1617644855 369434 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are Magic: the Gathering < 1617644951 734664 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vhggyqpwjvxaeveo JOIN :#esoteric < 1617645003 277707 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I thought it's ur esoteric lang < 1617645415 693474 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617646087 833358 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617647300 98233 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv 21:27:22 -NickServ- EMAILMEMOS Forwards incoming memos to your e-mail address. < 1617647316 105361 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nickserv can email you memos < 1617647319 522916 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL < 1617647352 981053 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: interesting :) < 1617647391 428256 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I rarely check mail so that would be currently of little use to me) < 1617647763 833537 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :email isn't supposed to be read insteneously < 1617647767 861179 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a < 1617647779 144744 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's a hard word < 1617647993 716573 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a message indicator in the system status line, so that if I am at the computer, I can see if there is a email message waiting. < 1617649210 827019 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-152-133.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617649273 579477 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:ad41:41d6:e97f:745f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617649303 434157 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:46d4:9a6b:fb19:e552 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617651134 791651 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I opened all the service that I "have to check sometimes" as pinned tabs in one window and try to teach myself to browser them only in order from right to left so it's like a priority, like "you better check email than skype" < 1617651146 209766 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it works for me though but I'm trying < 1617651631 882930 :LKoen_!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617651685 862040 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-152-133.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1617651787 366851 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617651986 404345 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617652066 479388 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07GORBITSA14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81910&oldid=78312 5* 03ZippyMagician 5* (+35) 10Add OM and ONN to nonstandard list < 1617652123 387359 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617652171 630723 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1617653262 576996 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Length14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81911&oldid=81318 5* 03Nailuj29 5* (+445) 104 new instructions > 1617654167 373842 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Suptiftam14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81912&oldid=81908 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+12) 10/* Variable declaration */ Wording > 1617654839 589955 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07202014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81913&oldid=81758 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+19) 10added Primer Post Braces to the comment < 1617654949 407959 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ftoc 500 < 1617654951 417092 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :500.00°F = 260.00°C < 1617656659 872937 :LKoen_!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617659318 148727 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vhggyqpwjvxaeveo QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1617660887 391741 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617660945 767275 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@62.182.99.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617661844 253904 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 80 ("b" ++ cycle "an") < 1617661846 463516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "bananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananan... < 1617661902 789051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :List price: $NaN.aN < 1617662078 308174 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea about playing a card game with separate decks by computer with a trusted third party who does not know anything about the game, but provides data at regular or nearly regular intervals, which is unpredictable before it occurs. It has many requirements about the game being played, which means that many games are not suitable. It otherwise works with hashes and block chain (which need not be known by anyone other than the players) < 1617663580 423735 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1617664007 867093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I faintly remember stock prices being used for a purpose like that for a game. Oh, wait, I'm just thinking about xkcd's geohashing. < 1617664132 471028 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this channel have a bot more trusted than HackEso who can give us random numbers by the way? < 1617664160 401917 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Does fungot have such a command? < 1617664179 623711 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jevalbot can give random numbers\ < 1617664185 42647 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wouldn't trust him < 1617664204 154807 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does lambdabot have such a command? < 1617664204 850267 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it uses a cryptograhpically non-secure random generator too < 1617664212 811648 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot... probably? < 1617664215 534012 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@plugins < 1617664216 6618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1617664217 990886 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1617664218 314300 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1617664224 220180 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1617664224 650724 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime metar more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search < 1617664224 650779 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen slap source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1617664229 951160 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help dice < 1617664230 589450 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : @dice . Throw random dice. is of the form 3d6+2. < 1617664233 311821 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice d4 < 1617664233 910882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 3 < 1617664237 215657 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice 10d6 < 1617664237 912064 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 35 < 1617664252 895205 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice d-4 < 1617664253 218917 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected "-": expecting number < 1617664255 895542 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice d0 < 1617664256 394664 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected end of input: expecting digit < 1617664325 625418 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1617664325 774195 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1617664448 759785 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it doesn't have such thing as drop lowest and drop highest and cards etc < 1617664477 699415 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list dice < 1617664478 211798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :dice provides: dice roll < 1617664484 413513 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@roll d100 < 1617664484 736530 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 41 < 1617664499 13118 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what random number generation is used? < 1617664503 304414 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1617664506 787479 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@source < 1617664507 238866 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1617664509 644530 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1617665819 77671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get one random bit out of fungot. < 1617665819 225784 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: seems so. < 1617665822 729325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1617665822 836586 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1617665829 534033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, one bit at a time, that is. < 1617665995 595441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's from cfunge's implementation of the Befunge '?' instruction, which I'm not 100% sure where it's from. Looks like it's either from the srandom/random pair of functions, or arc4random where available. < 1617666529 118538 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1617669371 339315 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617670332 860978 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:756f:46d4:9a6b:fb19:e552 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617672461 838631 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@62.182.99.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617672654 951616 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Heavpoot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81914&oldid=81903 5* 03Truttle1 5* (+383) 10 < 1617676906 758302 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617677801 517328 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617678645 183356 :ReddyAlice!~reddyalic@31.223.14.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617678777 561082 :ReddyAlice!~reddyalic@31.223.14.50 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1617678804 692927 :ReddyAlice!~reddyalic@31.223.14.50 QUIT :Client Quit < 1617685223 662668 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like goto sigil and gosub sigil? < 1617686929 519465 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617687611 747359 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617688966 595798 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PDA-er14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81915&oldid=81692 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+4620) 10 > 1617689151 365144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81916&oldid=81702 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+302) 10 < 1617692308 642381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617696420 754979 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617696597 744713 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617697678 561331 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Macron14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81917&oldid=81896 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+34) 10Let's compromise > 1617697872 695315 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Caballo14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81918&oldid=80335 5* 03CatIsFluffy 5* (+0) 10/* Conditional */ < 1617697986 885478 :clog!~nef@66.114.33.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617699268 311100 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617702773 104783 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1617707171 811606 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1617707207 563788 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617711190 207595 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617711842 293725 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617712451 695761 :Grego!~Thunderbi@186.149.198.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617712459 116951 :Grego!~Thunderbi@186.149.198.124 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki wiki < 1617712461 38368 :Grego!~Thunderbi@186.149.198.124 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ajam < 1617712463 327273 :Grego!~Thunderbi@186.149.198.124 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki wiki < 1617712464 835528 :Grego!~Thunderbi@186.149.198.124 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haciendo < 1617713476 282447 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kuttqhjrmgrkynne JOIN :#esoteric < 1617713495 580258 :dionys!dionys@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-buslsfhbhitunuvz JOIN :#esoteric < 1617713961 841174 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617715801 16722 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617715917 782584 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617715919 144358 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617717443 152286 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617717899 833420 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617719009 716292 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617721723 751115 :Grego!~Thunderbi@186.149.198.124 PART :#esoteric < 1617722071 224474 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617722426 501869 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is hiding in plain sight. < 1617722426 942521 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A bit late for Easter, but here we go) < 1617722430 702056 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is hiding in plain sight. < 1617722522 110111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, someone else got involved in the 2026 fiasco. < 1617722619 801074 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1617723099 51048 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1617723104 61041 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617723396 918194 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trajedy is 4 years (and a month and a few days) old. < 1617724092 241859 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617725566 347592 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1617727164 169602 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07/ggu/14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81919&oldid=78996 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+0) 10/* Commands */ s/rn/nr/g > 1617729111 577131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Mario14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81920&oldid=81150 5* 03Mario 5* (+46) 10 > 1617729416 541382 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81921&oldid=81900 5* 03Mario 5* (+15) 10added self%ify > 1617729526 937412 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Third Party Contractor Accused Of A Robbery14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81922&oldid=81221 5* 03Mario 5* (+3) 10 > 1617729772 29009 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81923&oldid=81921 5* 03Mario 5* (+50) 10added third party contractor accused of a robbery > 1617729933 403997 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Self%ify14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81924&oldid=81139 5* 03Mario 5* (+86) 10 > 1617731033 672714 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03AarMil42 5* 10New user account > 1617731503 9644 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81925&oldid=81907 5* 03AarMil42 5* (+395) 10Introduced myself < 1617731719 259855 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do any version control systems have a partial clone function? The format of fossil should support this, although I think the implementation does not, and the existing implementation might get confused if you have a partial clone. < 1617732237 851530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of partial clone? < 1617732254 38717 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To clone just one version or a few versions rather than all versions of the code. < 1617732527 611050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. git has something called a "shallow clone" which might do some of what you want. < 1617732541 70070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some hg people do fancier things than that. < 1617732551 567126 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What fancier things? < 1617733594 581439 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 how many esolangs have you made? < 1617733601 983960 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1617733618 866202 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im assuming more than 1 then? < 1617733624 122213 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1617734795 413867 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: svn has something like that, but not quite < 1617734810 949277 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can make partial read-only mirrors of a repository < 1617734831 290721 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't really have two repositories such that you can write to either one < 1617734885 186906 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :git can't make partial clones, and I believe this is just a client limitation, the server that you clone from can send you just selected objects < 1617734902 789014 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an easy one to solve though < 1617736231 508070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on what you mean by "partial". < 1617736241 582562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can definitely do shallow clones, as shachaf mentioned. < 1617736254 675609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's a reasonable reading of "just one version or a few versions". < 1617736415 479501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercurial's (optional but bundled?) "narrow" extension can slice in the other direction, too; i.e., only check out specific directories. < 1617736484 623846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For shallow clones on git, see the --depth, --shallow-since and --shallow-exclude flags. < 1617736686 567484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IIRC, both Chromium and AOSP support doing a no-history clone as a more or less standard practice, through their dedicated wrappers ('repo', 'fetch'), presumably because they're so ridiculously large.) < 1617736746 949108 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With fossil it would also be possible to ask the server for only some artifacts, although you would have to know the hash of the manifest that you want; the hashes of the files can then be found after downloading the manifest. However, the implementation does not have this capability, and it might also get confused if the previous version if not available (and propagating tags may be lost). < 1617736856 750780 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't care about the repository but only want to download a specific version, the same method can be used. < 1617737159 943587 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fossil has the ability for the server to create a ZIP archive or tape archive so that you can download it, but it is sometimes disabled due to system load, and alternative implementations might not have this function. > 1617737259 82579 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81926&oldid=81846 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-50) 10 < 1617737406 998068 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The manifest will always mention all of the files though, even if you do not download some of them (in which case you cannot verify that the R card is correct). < 1617738502 482725 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617738559 377707 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617738588 704831 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1617739021 24319 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Third Party Contractor Accused Of A Robbery14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81927&oldid=81922 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+29) 10Turning tarpits < 1617739458 497743 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imhizovfrmakxwxm JOIN :#esoteric > 1617739953 118121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WALP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81928&oldid=67500 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+17) 10/* Programming in WALP */ Fix explanation after ~1 year < 1617742084 886057 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617746324 382434 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617746407 262879 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617746432 711463 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617750773 681669 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-imhizovfrmakxwxm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1617751426 806003 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617751542 104717 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Airline food14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81929 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+4496) 10Created page with "'''Airline food''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:Largejamie]] in April 2021 whose programs are supposed to look like Jerry Seinfeld's stand-up. ==..." > 1617751683 140831 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81930&oldid=81916 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+1186) 10 > 1617751811 861262 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81931&oldid=81703 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+380) 10/* AF */ > 1617751833 43544 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81932&oldid=81931 5* 03Largejamie 5* (-1) 10/* Airline Food] */ > 1617751853 809232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81933&oldid=81932 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+0) 10/* Airline Food */ > 1617753369 556907 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81934&oldid=81923 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+19) 10/* A */ [[Airline food]] < 1617756045 756292 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kuttqhjrmgrkynne QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1617756703 321091 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1617758501 616881 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Timwi 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Efghij CHUNKY function.jpg10]]": Uploading on behalf of [[User:BakersDozenBagels]] > 1617758518 4702 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Efghij14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81936&oldid=80132 5* 03Timwi 5* (+9) 10/* Example: CHUNKY (integer division function) */ > 1617758535 604016 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Efghij14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81937&oldid=81936 5* 03Timwi 5* (+2) 10/* Example: CHUNKY (integer division function) */ > 1617759365 32062 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Efghij14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81938&oldid=81937 5* 03BakersDozenBagels 5* (-3) 10Fixed CHUNKY backronym. < 1617761066 483562 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I usually want to be able to clone just some of the files. ideally some revisions of some files. < 1617761095 238707 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, Mercurial can do partial clones? including pushing back to another repository from a partial clone? < 1617761615 671748 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617761720 702804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617761910 390941 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617762017 526291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1617763017 411150 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The format of fossil would also support this, although the implementation doesn't. However, if you want to commit unchanged files that you don't have, then you will not be able to calculate the R card; that is not a problem though, since the R card is optional. < 1617766323 229817 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617771100 59335 :LoganDark!47ee5ec4@c-71-238-94-196.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617771146 907447 :LoganDark!47ee5ec4@c-71-238-94-196.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh I am dying right now I am trying to find the name of a language that looks like this "({}{}{})({({}{})}){}" or something, I swear it was called like clusterfuck or cloisterfuck or something but I CAN'T FIND IT and it's driving me absolutely insane < 1617771298 672677 :LoganDark!47ee5ec4@c-71-238-94-196.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know what it's called? < 1617771540 275241 :LoganDark!47ee5ec4@c-71-238-94-196.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses parenthesis and curly braces only, and all of them must be matching < 1617773170 117559 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617775610 99741 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617777106 157528 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617779482 325070 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617780659 765517 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qviydaktfoiwcrwe JOIN :#esoteric < 1617781138 654491 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing such a thing I think, but I also don't know what it is called < 1617782444 327769 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617782828 803078 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617782973 685824 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617784003 573381 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617785460 38276 :^[!sid43445@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/sixth/zgrep QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1617785492 509326 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yarfypultqitkxyl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1617785583 961818 :^[!sid43445@ircpuzzles/2015/april-fools/sixth/zgrep JOIN :#esoteric < 1617785600 917611 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-icnhdahhvfdpvqrx JOIN :#esoteric < 1617785702 703833 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617787014 614880 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617787978 530602 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617788046 822357 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617788436 945323 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qviydaktfoiwcrwe QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1617789008 552949 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617789192 117863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: With an extension (hgext.narrow), yes. Also, I don't know how sort of stable/maintained it is, can't seem to find much by the way of documentation. But at least the code is still there: https://www.mercurial-scm.org/repo/hg/file/tip/hgext/narrow < 1617789753 461539 :LoganDark!47ee5ec4@c-71-238-94-196.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1617789909 792214 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617790718 929600 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1617791725 336529 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03KatzenTatzenTanz 5* 10New user account < 1617793483 957615 :SignX!91828520@145-130-133-32.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617796120 261407 :SignX!91828520@145-130-133-32.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Quit: Connection closed > 1617798663 61247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W-INTERCAL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81939&oldid=49138 5* 03CMinusMinus 5* (+396) 10Added link for INTERCAL and fixed source code > 1617799618 39622 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:CMinusMinus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81940&oldid=77817 5* 03CMinusMinus 5* (-105) 10 > 1617799690 915548 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:CMinusMinus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81941&oldid=81940 5* 03CMinusMinus 5* (+18) 10 < 1617799764 553651 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1617799940 507613 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Kill14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81942&oldid=73688 5* 03CMinusMinus 5* (-75) 10 < 1617800234 394545 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617801652 277789 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks > 1617803515 649395 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81943&oldid=81886 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+24) 10complete fragment < 1617803845 874676 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zogxbflcfypzetqv JOIN :#esoteric < 1617804054 326606 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617806658 486809 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617806901 708696 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617807260 766878 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:ND14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81944&oldid=61899 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+289) 10/* 3D */ Add an idea > 1617807438 674577 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81945&oldid=81943 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+10) 10fix format > 1617807461 556454 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81946&oldid=81945 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-13) 10/* Pipelines */ < 1617807670 134472 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric > 1617808069 758555 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81947&oldid=81946 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+53) 10 > 1617809747 797752 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81948&oldid=81947 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+24) 10 < 1617810608 811723 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1617811805 359006 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:RUBE14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81949&oldid=33698 5* 03Odog8 5* (+190) 10asking question in talk < 1617812494 923445 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617813889 808090 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1617817403 394646 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1617817804 716827 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1617824914 707298 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617825023 440718 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617825098 52876 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1617826808 976185 :LoganDark!47ee5ec4@c-71-238-94-196.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617827645 438388 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the speed of hashcash be improved by saving some of the intermediate results from the middle of the hashing calculation? Are there ways to skip some possibilities thatare unlikely to work, after a partial calculation? You will only have to calculate the first few bits of the hash, so maybe this can also improve the speed? < 1617827744 862191 :LoganDark!47ee5ec4@c-71-238-94-196.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1617827965 792933 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashcat? No, I don't think so... there are some tricks to save computations at the beginning and at the end of the hash computation if most of the hashed block's content remains unchanged. < 1617827997 320879 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the hash... I've seen it for md5. < 1617828069 856081 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this why bitcoin uses double hashing? < 1617828231 310982 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no, I think that's the same as for HMACs, because those old hashes have a vulnerability involving two strings one of which is a suffix of the other > 1617828249 663865 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:FizzyApple1214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81950&oldid=58944 5* 03FizzyApple12 5* (-48) 10Made it more accurate and updated links > 1617828346 808240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:FizzyApple1214]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81951&oldid=81950 5* 03FizzyApple12 5* (-17) 10more updates > 1617828624 437376 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Macron14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81952&oldid=81917 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10categories. sigh. < 1617828904 935088 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hashcash does keep most of the contents of the same, I think. < 1617829373 233572 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617829898 333979 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-007-125-001.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1 < 1617830418 684290 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-007-125-001.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617830428 816171 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fossil appends the MD5 hash to the end of the deck before computing the SHA-1 hash. In this case it is only used to verify that it is valid, but is it useful for any security purposes? > 1617831403 919535 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:FizzyApple1214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81953&oldid=81951 5* 03FizzyApple12 5* (-121) 10replaced with moderator note < 1617831472 327263 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617831708 850751 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that might be for backwards compatibility to old versions of fossil perhaps < 1617831728 365561 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it isn't. < 1617836390 996505 :drunken__!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617836518 263897 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617836905 947720 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : > 1617838561 930931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Among Us14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81954 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+2808) 10Created page with "'''Among Us''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:Zero player rodent]]. It is based on the popular game known as Among Us. The programs consist of colou..." > 1617838769 434908 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Among Us14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81955&oldid=81954 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (-23) 10 > 1617838797 770481 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81956&oldid=81291 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+48) 10 < 1617838921 309426 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: ... < 1617839231 974506 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.9 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617839351 862838 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Zero player rodent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81957&oldid=81170 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+64) 10 < 1617840310 559271 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.93.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1617840739 978122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Semeler14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81958&oldid=81875 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+2388) 10sigh < 1617840977 644209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1617843622 460663 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617844137 391095 :budonyc!~budonyc@c-24-62-207-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617845539 386491 :budonyc!~budonyc@c-24-62-207-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617851230 891464 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zogxbflcfypzetqv QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1617851238 693266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1617854147 886940 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617854702 872110 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617856706 974845 :lyncid[m]!lyncidmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-aqqdqyydgginxwtw JOIN :#esoteric < 1617856929 224734 :lyncid[m]!lyncidmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-aqqdqyydgginxwtw PRIVMSG #esoteric :LoganDark: (maybe you read logs) I believe that language could be brain-flak? < 1617856979 866186 :lyncid[m]!lyncidmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-aqqdqyydgginxwtw PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh wait yours contains only parens and curly braces, so probably not. i believe there was a more minimal version of brain-flak called mini-flak, but i think that still had 3 types of braces < 1617857051 447148 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1617857507 300359 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617857927 33577 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a part of the document describing my ideas for a card game with separate decks using cryptography. It is: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/separate_deck_crypto This document is incomplete; I will write more another day. (Maybe you can guess some of the rest of it, but maybe not. Maybe you also have ideas for improvement, too.) < 1617858356 803568 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617859033 617472 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have a idea of a tarot game where the trumps score according to the letters in the roman numbers, where "I" is worth +1, "X" is worth -2, and "V" is worth nothing. (There can be other things that give you points too, e.g. the last trick might give you some bonus points, nontrumps might affect scoring, and there may also be bidding similar to bridge but you don't specify the trump suit (in tarot, there are permanent trumps).) < 1617859357 120915 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617868521 808305 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617868650 58240 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617868795 103945 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617869206 780036 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617869349 743185 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617871988 796952 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1617873222 884408 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81959&oldid=81948 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-72) 10/* Hello World */ > 1617873330 178720 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81960&oldid=81959 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+0) 10 > 1617873363 217843 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81961&oldid=81960 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-41) 10/* Records */ > 1617873389 465716 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81962&oldid=81961 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-2) 10/* Unions and Intersections */ > 1617873458 558828 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81963&oldid=81962 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-5) 10/* Etymology */ > 1617874065 977868 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81964&oldid=81963 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+852) 10/* Type System */ > 1617875109 574141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81965&oldid=81964 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+318) 10/* Features */ > 1617875662 254937 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81966&oldid=81965 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+26) 10 > 1617876542 19900 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81967&oldid=81966 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+490) 10 > 1617878044 752985 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81968&oldid=81967 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+183) 10 > 1617878129 438912 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81969&oldid=81968 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-6) 10/* History */ > 1617878179 621184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81970&oldid=81969 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+1) 10/* Pattern Matching */ > 1617878222 956929 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81971&oldid=81970 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-4) 10/* Pattern Matching */ > 1617879268 45213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81972&oldid=81971 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+182) 10 > 1617879294 854667 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81973&oldid=81972 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+1) 10/* Grammar */ < 1617879788 251620 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1617881004 403331 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81974&oldid=81973 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+76) 10 > 1617881025 687002 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81975&oldid=81974 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+2) 10/* Grammar */ > 1617881313 124189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81976&oldid=81975 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+62) 10/* Grammar */ > 1617881553 770435 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81977&oldid=81976 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-4) 10 > 1617881675 707079 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81978&oldid=81977 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-4) 10/* Pattern Matching */ > 1617881738 105916 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81979&oldid=81978 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+0) 10/* Records */ > 1617882617 575680 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81980&oldid=81979 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+260) 10Add card example > 1617882784 713555 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81981&oldid=81980 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+3) 10 < 1617883696 113366 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bqbgviwutqmfjats JOIN :#esoteric > 1617884027 501842 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Proof14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81982&oldid=73270 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+12) 10/* Setting variables */ Use pre tag > 1617884215 100561 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81983&oldid=81981 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+2) 10/* Cards */ > 1617884524 223734 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81984&oldid=81983 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+69) 10/* Cards */ > 1617884688 701607 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81985&oldid=81984 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+29) 10/* Cards */ < 1617884764 60432 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617884950 283901 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617885350 774277 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617885521 606819 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617885630 431910 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617886074 973242 :arcsor7!~arcsor5@185.244.215.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617886251 821719 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1617886361 853102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81986&oldid=81985 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-139) 10 > 1617887891 789833 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81987&oldid=81986 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+115) 10/* Examples */ > 1617888089 797340 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Efghij14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81988&oldid=81938 5* 03Timwi 5* (+10) 10 > 1617888883 779302 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81989&oldid=81987 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+327) 10/* Examples */ > 1617888980 453226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81990&oldid=81989 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (-1) 10/* Etymology */ < 1617890186 867014 :budonyc!~budonyc@c-24-62-207-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1617890480 431325 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nomad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81991&oldid=81990 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+156) 10/* Recursion */ < 1617890754 394580 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnklxGAmak < 1617890787 4148 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting stuff about human languages, genetics, (I'm on 13th minute yet) < 1617891406 978735 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617891434 725008 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"90% of languages will disappear in the next century" > 1617894569 568585 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AarMil4214]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81992 5* 03AarMil42 5* (+71) 10Created page with "Just a guy who's a fan of esolangs. ...Oh, and I made [[Grok]]." < 1617895077 972757 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617895126 350020 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617895192 656197 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617895213 22956 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1617895250 787680 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617896074 371548 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-iyzavwmmtpydsdko QUIT :Quit: authenticating < 1617896083 849385 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hpsdksizidopczwt JOIN :#esoteric < 1617896523 915183 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the relevant stuff is in the 15 minutes, the rest is more about the schizophrenia)) < 1617896531 978406 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the first 15 > 1617896767 111458 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grok14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81993 5* 03AarMil42 5* (+1479) 10Created page with "Grok is a two-dimensional, [[Push-down_automaton|stack-based]] language inspired by Befunge, ><>, and the Vim editor. It was invented by [[User:AarMil42]] in 2021. ==Concepts..." < 1617896930 541768 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617897037 978357 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neuroses are red, < 1617897038 189426 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric : Melancholia's blue. < 1617897038 189470 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm schizophrenic, < 1617897038 189478 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric : What are you? < 1617899199 111874 :drunken__!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617901269 816551 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617903153 926648 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ifgqqwhegwxcynjh JOIN :#esoteric > 1617904879 558617 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grok14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81994&oldid=81993 5* 03AarMil42 5* (+8760) 10Finished the Grok Page < 1617905920 790919 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617905973 19481 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least one of dynamically assigned IPs of my ISP is banned on Freenode :-\ > 1617906756 351141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07O14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81995&oldid=46906 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-2) 10/* The sum of the cubes of a list from 1 to n */ Fix word () < 1617906766 92354 :eliogalindo92!~eliogalin@152.207.247.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617906939 566472 :eliogalindo92!~eliogalin@152.207.247.190 PART :#esoteric < 1617906975 795169 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617908032 650360 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bqbgviwutqmfjats QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1617908231 62540 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617908384 993892 :arcsor7!~arcsor5@185.244.215.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1617908943 938296 :les-citrons!~raven@alt.mondecitronne.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617908990 771477 :les-citrons!~raven@alt.mondecitronne.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1617909687 570775 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81996&oldid=81934 5* 03AarMil42 5* (+11) 10Added Grok < 1617911324 651421 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617911443 809328 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1617911443 957470 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1617912071 797501 :les-citrons!~raven@alt.mondecitronne.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617913194 563257 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh400/Unordered set in Haskell14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81997 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+30461) 10Unordered set in Haskell > 1617913198 307574 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh40014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81998&oldid=81805 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+71) 10Unordered set in Haskell < 1617913394 565000 :arcsor7!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617913612 230039 :arcsor6!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617913612 795719 :j-bot!~jbot@hagall.firefly.nu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1617913613 4452 :harha_!~harha@ns356919.ip-91-121-144.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1617913625 542803 :harha_!~harha@ns356919.ip-91-121-144.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1617913628 931971 :j-bot!~jbot@hagall.firefly.nu JOIN :#esoteric < 1617913638 670172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1617913803 653472 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617914277 836724 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this seems vaguely of the style of one of those languages that ais523 was working on https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=5402 < 1617914608 76762 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see comments for how to extend the model to be more useful) < 1617915033 864187 :adu_!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617915243 98188 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is at least #esoteric-relevant < 1617915514 662776 :adu_!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu_ < 1617916357 243544 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator QUIT :Quit: Blame iczero something happened < 1617916587 363748 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1617916640 98184 :les-citrons!~raven@alt.mondecitronne.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1617917948 917743 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617918351 280212 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617918958 816327 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617919173 750541 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617919245 752746 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1617919802 286494 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRARI14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81999 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+641) 10Created page with "IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRARI (I Honestly Can't Be Bothered To Write An Interpreter All By Myself So Everytime You Run A Command It Runs A Random Interpreter) is an interpreted esot..." > 1617920354 204329 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRARI14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82000&oldid=81999 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+46) 10add nop program > 1617920373 142409 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRARI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82001&oldid=82000 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+5) 10/* Cat */ > 1617920385 671397 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRARI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82002&oldid=82001 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+5) 10/* Hello World */ > 1617920693 439834 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82003&oldid=81459 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (+6667) 10 < 1617920960 319242 :adu_!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1617921420 94898 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRARI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82004&oldid=82002 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+70) 10/* Example Programs */ > 1617921822 977375 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* 10moved [[02IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRARI10]] to [[IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT]]: name change > 1617921887 70912 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82007&oldid=82005 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+7) 10 < 1617922739 52413 :adu_!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu_ > 1617922874 329795 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82008&oldid=82003 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (+3839) 10 > 1617923067 755533 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82009&oldid=82008 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (+203) 10/* Jumps and control flow */ > 1617923246 896918 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82010&oldid=82009 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (+339) 10/* Jumps and control flow */ > 1617923308 353509 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82011&oldid=82010 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (+5) 10/* Virtual instructions */ > 1617923360 644793 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82012&oldid=82011 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (+70) 10/* Jumps and control flow */ > 1617923491 897078 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82013&oldid=82012 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (-117) 10/* Conditionals */ > 1617923505 645407 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82014&oldid=82013 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (+3) 10/* Conditionals */ > 1617923929 188156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82015&oldid=82007 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (-1) 10 > 1617924872 892886 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82016&oldid=82015 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (-17) 10/* Nop */ > 1617924883 242354 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82017&oldid=82016 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (-18) 10/* Quit IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIWYT */ > 1617924978 51841 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82018&oldid=82017 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+34) 10 < 1617926007 684427 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh, a friend showed me that post too. I think I read about a similar train computation model (IIRC that was TC, or just powerful enough for this kind of models, because of latches which were allowed to be coupled together). Alas I don’t remember where I read about that or if it was a link from here all along > 1617926498 451066 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82019&oldid=82018 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+482) 10 < 1617927845 783278 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617927913 903099 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: the comments link to that < 1617927925 327060 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with coupled track switches < 1617927962 290268 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :that’s good, then! I’m a bit sad when information is lost < 1617929741 754098 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617930143 849669 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617930941 971534 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Abcout14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82020 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+2042) 10create abcout page > 1617931155 708519 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Sporeball14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82021&oldid=68492 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+48) 10add abcout to this < 1617931514 973395 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617931557 756948 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1617932253 974834 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82022&oldid=81996 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+13) 10add abcout to the language list < 1617932501 585313 :arcsor7!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1617936584 433340 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hyperdawg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82023&oldid=81667 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+13) 10 > 1617936643 648922 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82024&oldid=82019 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (-463) 10/* Python */ > 1617936689 132608 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IHCBBTWAIABMSEYRACIRWYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82025&oldid=82024 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+39) 10/* Hello World */ > 1617938557 88474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07OISC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82026&oldid=81582 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+100) 10add abcout to the list of OISCs < 1617938753 514785 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found a number for which the version of cosine in my complex.h < 1617938777 597512 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :differs from the result i get from the x87 fcos instruction < 1617938877 981471 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :64.40000000000061675109 or 0x40501999999999c5 in hex < 1617939284 534194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one really uses the x87 instruction, right? < 1617939437 452698 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect they use some SSE thing by now < 1617939511 745182 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1617939543 52223 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i386 or amd64? < 1617939563 465674 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the amd64 ABI (at least on Linux) uses SSE registers for floats < 1617939575 630136 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the assumption that you're using SSE ops too < 1617939613 75945 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amd64 ABI uses SSE registers for float and double but still x87 for long double < 1617939625 570064 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the complex.h one, when I step through it, appears to run the taylor series < 1617939632 579554 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh neat < 1617939636 261392 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because long double is still an x87 80-bit float) < 1617939664 622595 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did x87 end up using 80 bits internally, anyway < 1617939742 994293 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :design intent varied from how people actually used it, basically. the intent was that you'd do all intermediate computation in 80-bits, and then round when you were finally done to 64-bit or 32-bit < 1617939920 750492 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :and x87 is _slightly_ odd as an FPU design overall -- as implemented in modern x86 it's IEEE-compliant, but x87 _predates_ IEEE floats < 1617939957 690494 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the IEEE float standard is based on x87, not the other way around) < 1617940054 603734 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just wondering how they arrived at 80 bits specifically < 1617940082 723020 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :double coscomplex(double x){return creal(cexp(I*x));} < 1617940087 510492 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :double cosx87(double x){asm("fldl %1\n\tfcos\n\tfstpl %1":"+m"(x)::);return x;} < 1617940194 103623 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that for compatibility to an existing system < 1617940209 644346 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just deemed to be enough precision for intermediate calculations with a 64 bit result < 1617940254 357204 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was probably a nice 10 byte round number. Also I think there was an existing 10 byte BCD format? < 1617940306 579930 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617940313 843770 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was the latter, kmc < 1617940324 190295 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui there was no pre-existing system they were compatible with < 1617940346 299450 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :legacy float formats are... mind-bending nonsense, and not very ieee-reminiscent < 1617942732 733556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1617942766 859142 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9WyEfzWPg < 1617943023 130983 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617943603 252862 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ifgqqwhegwxcynjh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1617945594 54134 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617946746 481885 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that Gemini protocol requires TLS; sometimes it is useful to have a non-TLS version. My suggestion is that the non-TLS version uses a different URI scheme, perhaps "insecure-gemini:" can be used. A non-proxy server that implements the non-TLS variant should treat the two URI schemes as equivalent. If a client certificate is requested, the client must switch to the secure protocol. < 1617946870 876989 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and about the trains; maybe write on esolang wiki something so that we can see how those models are working, and perhaps a syntax for computer codes with it < 1617947141 519932 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617950450 38316 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617950479 417224 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617950630 838070 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617951523 844762 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617951754 587978 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617955343 547540 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:sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1617958145 821125 :ornxka!~ornxka@unaffiliated/ornx JOIN :#esoteric < 1617958145 821136 :jix!~jix@static.71.5.69.159.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617959574 779104 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1617959601 298217 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617960882 528364 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-isaijvfhskmxutcg JOIN :#esoteric < 1617960882 677228 :TannerSwett[m]!tannerswet@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ntyxtbswvfurusbn JOIN :#esoteric < 1617960882 677321 :none30!none30matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-iuncwcqpavhnrcwr JOIN :#esoteric < 1617960883 345307 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ikjjvxbykzqunrez JOIN :#esoteric < 1617963022 299990 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:d464:ba4e:e59f:1d59 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617964339 723327 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Sporeball14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82027 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+6) 10Created page with "Frick." < 1617964510 999952 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617968865 763050 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric > 1617969421 250280 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Seclusion14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82028&oldid=71198 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+1822) 10Add TIO links < 1617970925 283035 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axdubxgugfspqrfr JOIN :#esoteric < 1617971015 397126 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:d464:ba4e:e59f:1d59 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617973369 539670 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617973433 767475 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1617974517 892423 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Texenox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82029&oldid=42430 5* 03Texenox 5* (-236) 10Replaced content with "no" < 1617974564 982676 :requestingdeleti!52276872@cpc93788-hari17-2-0-cust2161.20-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617974578 878953 :requestingdeleti!52276872@cpc93788-hari17-2-0-cust2161.20-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1617974602 486648 :requestingdeleti!52276872@cpc93788-hari17-2-0-cust2161.20-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't sure if there was a better place to ask in, but i was wondering if it were possible for an old account of mine on Esolangs to be deleted < 1617974634 527714 :requestingdeleti!52276872@cpc93788-hari17-2-0-cust2161.20-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've not used it in years and just leaving it to lie around there for so many years probably isn't very secure in the long run < 1617974701 908759 :requestingdeleti!52276872@cpc93788-hari17-2-0-cust2161.20-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that not entirely doable because of MediaWiki? < 1617975648 568313 :requestingdeleti!52276872@cpc93788-hari17-2-0-cust2161.20-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1617975904 295122 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617975940 320778 :requestingdeleti!52276872@cpc93788-hari17-2-0-cust2161.20-2.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess in that case i might as well leave that account to rot and nothing else? < 1617975946 552955 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617975959 309784 :requestingdeleti!52276872@cpc93788-hari17-2-0-cust2161.20-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1617976034 892787 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617976975 304875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1617976991 818873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missed that by 15 minutes. But I don't know the answer either. < 1617977009 749869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine there's quite a lot of "inactive" accounts on the wiki, anyway. < 1617977057 476423 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as it's easier to create a new account than it is to hack an old one... < 1617977060 851880 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I wouldn't worry. < 1617977086 275276 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :admin accounts may be a different ball game > 1617977405 178583 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Birb14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82030 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+1548) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Birb |website= |paradigms=functional |author= |year=[[:Category:2021|2021]] |typesys=untyped |memsys=stack-based |refimpl= |class=:Category:Turing c..." < 1617979866 286514 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617980369 95699 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with int-e, there's not much point to remove the old account. I did remove admin rights from myself this year on a wiki that I'm no longer interested in, < 1617980422 645301 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I had my privilages removed from my perlmonks.com account last year (they have a policy to remove janitor privilage from people who aren't active janitors, but nothing like that for the lower privilages that I had). < 1617980891 819684 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617981177 883550 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617981295 350631 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617981460 947928 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617982003 862724 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617982091 835845 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617982343 840163 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617982532 826783 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1617982786 679965 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617982930 393295 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82031&oldid=82022 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+11) 10/* B */ [[Birb]] < 1617983241 877643 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617984341 202720 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617984488 949209 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617984604 902946 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1617985743 340346 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1617986455 777121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:The-Ennemy/asm2bf-tutorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82032&oldid=82014 5* 03The-Ennemy 5* (+19) 10/* Stack access */ < 1617986838 896589 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617987577 474419 :hiato!~hiato@23.226.128.22.adsl.inet-telecom.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1617987898 611142 :hiato!~hiato@23.226.128.22.adsl.inet-telecom.org PART #esoteric :"Killed buffer" > 1617987954 15847 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Birb14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82033&oldid=82030 5* 03SCKelemen 5* (+70) 10/* Symbols */ < 1617987991 685074 :hiato!~hiato@23.226.128.22.adsl.inet-telecom.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1617988021 19437 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric > 1617988540 478184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Falel14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82034 5* 03Umanochiocciola 5* (+1642) 10Created page with "Fancy Assembly Like EsoLang This is a little thing I made after playing Shenzen I/O. ==Documentation== Memory Scheme | out-buff | in-buff | acc | x3 ...." > 1617988610 403885 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Falel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82035&oldid=82034 5* 03Umanochiocciola 5* (+6) 10 > 1617988630 669141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Falel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82036&oldid=82035 5* 03Umanochiocciola 5* (-15) 10 > 1617988648 373339 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Falel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82037&oldid=82036 5* 03Umanochiocciola 5* (+1) 10 < 1617989165 889241 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-0-59.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617990126 501007 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617991353 647871 :hiato!~hiato@23.226.128.22.adsl.inet-telecom.org QUIT :Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 27.1 < 1617991884 153722 :hiato!~hiato@23.226.128.22.adsl.inet-telecom.org JOIN :#esoteric > 1617995579 323776 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Fishheads14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82038&oldid=81708 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+15) 10 < 1617996241 29721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder if it's common nowadays to use a 1600x1200 resolution when emulating the non-square-pixel 4:3 320x200 VGA display modes. That'd give the right aspect ratio, and integer scaling in both dimensions (320*5 = 1600, 200*6 = 1200), and fit into a reasonably sized window on an 1440p monitor. < 1617996322 385762 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-0-59.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1617996326 131286 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but most people use 1920x1080 resolution monitors, so that won't work < 1617996332 958414 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we also might want space for other things < 1617996379 572420 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I personally have an 1920x1200 monitor, 16:10 ratio, at home right now, until this one dies completely, but those are hard to buy) < 1617996388 529423 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we just use smaller sizes < 1617996388 529473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they? I thought 1440p and 2560p was getting pretty popular? < 1617996409 525579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess it's still "most". < 1617996415 133268 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a few people have such high resolution, but I think 1920x1080 is still the most common < 1617996441 149162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ says 67.35% 1920x1080, and 8.01% 2560x1440. < 1617996454 164581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And 2.41% 3840x2160.) < 1617996515 309644 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mind you, it's likely that the 1920x1080 are the monitors that the office buys to people to do their job, and the videogamers that emulate 320x200 resolution games are more likely to have more or bigger monitors at home where they play the videogames < 1617996536 698975 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's of course the opposite effect, with radiologists who use big monitors for their work, but that's a small minority) < 1617997200 139876 :hiato!~hiato@23.226.128.22.adsl.inet-telecom.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617997794 659757 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617997925 638408 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617997934 394356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've settled on a 2x 25" 2560x1440 combination, but at the office it was more convenient to go with the stock arrangement of 2x 27" 2560x1440, which I think is a little bit larger than necessary, physically speaking. (The *other* stock arrangement would have been 1x 32" 3840x2160.) < 1617997977 846797 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1617998056 422629 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know yet what monitor I'll buy, and I hope I won't have to buy it soon, because I would hate if this one died < 1617998233 593776 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ok, but maybe you don't work at one of those run-of-the-mill office jobs, but as a programmer who sometimes uses their work computer for more than Excel spreadsheets and facebook < 1617998573 573518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One inconvenience with a two-monitor setup is that if you need to replace one (because of the magic smoke getting out, for example), you're limited to (a) sticking with the existing dot pitch, (b) ending up with two monitors where moving a window from one to another makes everything larger, or (c) having to replace a perfectly good monitor as well. < 1617998608 201931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent quite a few years in option (b), with a 2560x1440 + 1920x1200 pair. < 1617998871 614855 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: plus it only works for the lizardmen from mars who infiltrated Earth, because they have pairs of chameleon eyes so they can look at multiple monitors at the same time. I for one hate that setup, it just leads either to staring at a boundary between two monitors, or having to turn my neck to stare at one monitor all the time. I'm glad I could convince my job to take one monitor away, the < 1617998877 776601 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :resulting one monitor setup is more enjoyable. > 1617998950 925376 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Fishheads14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82039&oldid=82038 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+162) 10/* Example programs */ > 1617998989 140720 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Fishheads14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82040&oldid=82039 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (-52) 10/* Hello World */ > 1617999108 972754 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Fishheads14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82041&oldid=82040 5* 03Hyperdawg 5* (+84) 10 < 1617999625 673592 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lie around there for so many years probably isn't very secure in the long run" < 1617999654 608633 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like his point was something like that he used the same password everywhere at that time ..D < 1617999695 107597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they could certainly generate a random new password. Assuming they can log on to that account still. < 1617999733 732908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1617999772 279372 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the leak could happen any time < 1617999795 91382 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :before he realised he has this account "to lie around there for so many years" < 1617999828 541815 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it's possible to do anything about it < 1617999848 217556 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just giving my guess just why he was asking about this at all < 1618000407 575405 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password < 1618000409 898738 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is hiding in plain sight. < 1618000460 52153 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it did get changed, though rather late < 1618002257 209973 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get a new monitor. it's a touch annoying having a high DPI and standard DPI screen < 1618002278 666389 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :though at least these days i'm using all mac os, and the mac os support for that is not-terrible (unlike other OSes i could name) < 1618004394 64756 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618004586 850720 :laerling!~laerling@unaffiliated/laerling QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618004599 894772 :laerling!~laerling@unaffiliated/laerling JOIN :#esoteric < 1618009885 359895 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 1280x1024 < 1618010248 362614 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new laptop is a 14" 1080p < 1618010264 596765 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :higher DPI would be nice, but it's a good screen in other respects < 1618010270 303421 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really care about 16:9 versus 16:10 < 1618010393 773651 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f w h = w*h/(w^2+h^2) in f 16 10/f 16 9 < 1618010395 664416 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0518102372034956 < 1618010413 851045 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:10 gives you 5% more screen space for the same diagonal length ;) < 1618010558 697122 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The monitor will have to fit on the desk, and you might want pixels of a certain minimum and maximum size < 1618010854 753860 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is... 2560x1600, 13.3" (16:10) < 1618010869 110637 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a pretty nice resolution for a small display < 1618011041 966539 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has liked this laptop a fair bit more than she was expecting < 1618011270 814046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:10 1920x1200 has that (niche?) benefit that you can play 16:9 1080p video without any scaling and still have space at the bottom (or top, if you bend that way) for showing playback controls without obscuring the video. < 1618011288 423067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or maybe subtitles. Though I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad idea. < 1618011362 112656 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is fine to hide playback controls and use the controls on the keyboard, although you may want to display subtitles/captions and time codes, and the track number < 1618011377 771322 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the playback controls thing is the justification for 16:10 < 1618011401 704130 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho even watching video on here i really do prefer to have them hidden when not interacting with the controls < 1618011414 963987 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :letterboxing is just nicer than graphics that arent what im looking at < 1618011717 828751 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any DVD video software allow you to adjust the colours and opacity of the subtitles? < 1618011803 199659 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have read some details of the format, and it seems that this should be possible, but I have never seen any DVD player that has such an option.) < 1618012129 171987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mpv can convert them to grayscale (--sub-gray, mentions DVD image subtitles), but I think nothing more elaborate than that. DVDSubEdit (a Windows-only program?) appears to have an arbitrary color remapping option, but it's not a playback program. < 1618012152 593840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(DVDSubEdit looks vaguely familiar. I wonder if I've maybe used it.) < 1618012260 528587 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used VLC to play DVDs, but I believe it can, and it allows adjusting the colors and opacity of subtitles in general < 1618012381 766388 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DVD player I have (connected to the television) can change the colours and opacity of captions, but not of subtitles. (However, you cannot turn on/off captions or select them during playback, but you can select subtitles during playback.) < 1618012561 21166 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if anything can, i usually just accept the subtitle rendering for whatever i'm watching < 1618012719 20459 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you watch movies from DVD? _Oo < 1618012770 427277 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly whenever i _do_ watch things on dvd it's actually me ripping it :p < 1618012780 5355 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i usually mux the raw dvd subs in when i do that < 1618012809 533093 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is one reason I prefer to use captions instead. With captions, it is also possible to change the font, too. It is not possible to change the font of DVD subtitles, although the format would allow changing colours/opacity, that doesn't seem to be implemented. Changing the font of DVD subtitles after it has been recorded is not possible though.) > 1618012828 133884 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Truttle114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82042&oldid=68840 5* 03Truttle1 5* (+58) 10 < 1618012869 706539 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, since DVD subtitles are just bitmaps, only so much you can do < 1618012951 10066 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are stored using indexed colours, and with the specification of what colour to use for which index. So, this should easily allow the user to change which colour corresponds to which index. < 1618012999 730426 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1618013889 29044 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1618014752 526013 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know they are bitmaps < 1618014771 464466 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that is easier than every DVD player having fonts and rendering code for every language out there < 1618015031 878864 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618015394 530472 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is easier. It has advantages and disadvantages compared with captions (although it is possible for DVDs to have captions, too, but not all DVD players can play them; if the DVD player does not have its own ability to render captions and the connection to the display is HDMI, then it will not be possible to display the captions at all; subtitles don't have this problem, although this is also a problem with HDMI) < 1618016031 926465 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618016039 276755 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I tell 7-Zip to add empty files? < 1618016118 22489 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that it does, but why does'nt it list them when they are being added to the archive? < 1618016209 56727 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so HDMI does not include a way to carry captions data? < 1618016241 743196 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm surprised to hear that < 1618016347 490724 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: As far as I know, that is correct, it doesn't. (Someone mentioned to me SDI, and apparely SDI does.) < 1618016407 937139 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would prefer Digi-RGB+audio+IMIDI, but this is currently never used; the electrical specification has not yet been written.) < 1618016543 34625 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Only the format of the data has been written so far.) < 1618016605 132217 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why use 7zip in the first place? < 1618016635 22592 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, DVDs have some aspects that feel pretty archaic because they're designed around technical limitations that are a fair bit older than their common adoption. < 1618016644 808738 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :The technical limitations of 1995 are baked into the file format < 1618016649 273265 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1618016722 630160 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compression of 7-Zip is better than ZIP. I tried again this time creating a ZIP archive, this time it does list all of the files. When creating a 7-Zip archive, it doesn't list empty files, but still adds them; this seems to be a bug. < 1618016828 245776 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and ZIP has a max file size that's relatively small < 1618016842 618704 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the zip64 extension lets you surpass that, but not much supports it) < 1618016886 195025 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never had problems with the file size limit < 1618016906 930402 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file size limit is, admittedly, 4 gigs < 1618016927 738266 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not low enough it'll prevent all uses, just low enough it'll prevent a few reasonable ones < 1618017093 655444 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I added the sokoban example into the repository of Free Hero Mesh, in case an example is wanted. Later, it might be better to have a proper puzzle set catalog, like how Tom7's Escape game has a level catalog by internet. < 1618017197 604770 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Currently a compressed tape archive is used, but for the puzzle catalog, a compressed Hamster archive might be better.) < 1618018330 926535 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618019459 323047 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 JOIN :#esoteric > 1618020327 498404 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Abcout14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82043&oldid=82020 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+0) 10link to Subleq within quote < 1618021898 311905 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618021911 377017 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axdubxgugfspqrfr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1618022291 957576 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this max file limit might be the only reason to not use zip < 1618022315 666810 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's a problem I would check the .tar.gz out < 1618022409 80088 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 7zip is just a cancer unconsciously marketed out to relatively noticable use by those who have a bit more knowledge about computers than a farm worker < 1618022460 319798 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are hundreds of compressors and if you want to debate on that subject you'll find that 7zip isn't the best so it's not an argument < 1618022518 802134 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real argument is compatibility and AFAIK the most crossplatform formats for compressing files are .ZIP and .TAR.GZ < 1618022528 110116 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else needs shitty installers < 1618022648 72438 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and going back to real benchmarks, the RAR still wins if you add this up with the fact that it's not abandoned unlike most of others https://gist.github.com/Nakilon/09fac4335b95f9617e4c82af4d9e1e7d < 1618022750 779235 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the last time I had to unpack 7zip it could not unpack, lol, was not liking the file names encoding < 1618024853 296000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1618025714 763107 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@185.244.215.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618026048 823853 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I decompressed a RAR file I saw and recompressed it as 7Z format and the 7Z file is smaller. However, neither format is quite what I would have wanted. I had my own idea, which includes VM codes so that specialized algorithms are possible; ZPAQ does that, but I don't really like its design and would prefer having archiving and compression separate (like .tar.gz is). < 1618026068 930978 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ZIP is most common, so if you don't need the features or extra compression of other formats, then ZIP can be used. < 1618026468 379418 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One possible advantage of captions over subtitles is the possibility of caption scrollback, although I don't know of anything that implements it. (For some uses, hidden captions would also be useful; I think EIA-708 has this, but I don't know if it is used. I think it has tagged captions, but I haven't seen any implementation that has options to customize the tag mask.) < 1618026580 651643 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DVD subtitles are numbered, and also are identified by languages. 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1618049207 183042 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1618051881 955694 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1618053158 945589 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1618054243 387409 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Olus2000 5* 10New user account > 1618055049 873420 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82046&oldid=81925 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+323) 10Introduction of Olus2000 > 1618055585 332662 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Olus200014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82047 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+249) 10Initial commit > 1618055723 525509 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Olus200014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82048&oldid=82047 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+0) 10Capitalisation of BAL > 1618056534 763103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Schadimander 5* 10New user account > 1618056840 275815 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82049&oldid=82046 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+284) 10introducing? < 1618056917 761567 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1618057567 836534 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:English14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82050&oldid=68486 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+160) 10 > 1618057582 970220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:English14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82051&oldid=82050 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+2) 10 < 1618057721 267908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember there was some convention in DVD subtitles to use an uncommon (relatively speaking) language as an ad-hoc standard for some other purpose. Can't remember the details though. < 1618057770 480522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I'm thinking of DVB broadcasting (in Finland), and using some uncommon language for the accessibility / hearing-impaired / audio description captions. < 1618057964 421351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some interweb searching seems to suggest DVB has dedicated subtitle types for "regular use" and "hearing impaired", but I guess it's not impossible they might have been worried about software support and still picked a different fake language code. < 1618059636 552740 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: no, 7zip is a decent compressor for its own format, with a nice easily tunable parameter, a nice package supporting a lot of existing compressed and misc formats, a usable windows GUI, with a terribly messed up command-line interface. but since it's open source, it should be possible to fix the command-line interface. I use 7zip to do much of my compression these days. < 1618060825 327023 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shdhyxoxkigensao JOIN :#esoteric > 1618061168 505044 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Functional()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82052&oldid=81578 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+786) 10Add hello-world example > 1618061672 61589 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Referencement14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82053&oldid=79029 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+2715) 10Add TIO links > 1618063009 319886 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck Assembly Language14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82054 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+6178) 10Initial commit > 1618063440 856891 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82055&oldid=82031 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+34) 10Added Brainfuck Assembly Language < 1618063930 692565 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1618065089 866473 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TheTermProgrammer 5* 10New user account > 1618066167 813056 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82056&oldid=80257 5* 03Betseg 5* (+407) 10/* Metacategorization */ new section < 1618066314 38481 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg JOIN :#esoteric < 1618066345 960081 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i propose a page for deletion < 1618066423 627413 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618066476 422643 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :hewwo < 1618066480 231181 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i propose a page for deletion < 1618066630 956494 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618066838 483584 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618067113 923651 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1618067417 938468 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which page is it < 1618067426 438280 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can @tell fizzie about it, probably. or ping them. < 1618067443 350347 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :emojicode < 1618067453 484390 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :it redirects to an unrelated language < 1618067508 341445 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :and emojicode itself is a non-eso lang < 1618067557 367989 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emojicode is an esolang < 1618067596 439550 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1618067641 599246 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an attempt of creating a bizzare language and then branding it as a normal language < 1618067666 557422 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no advantage of using emojis like this < 1618067699 813477 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a normal language that happens to use emoji as its reserved words and function names < 1618067765 281773 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm2bf is a serious assembler, yet it's still considered an esolang by most people. < 1618067942 423709 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone could probably write an esolangs wiki article on it, though. < 1618067960 716394 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's esoteric enough to have it's own article, and if APL deserves being on the wiki, then emojicode surely does too :P < 1618067961 77369 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's still a false redirecrt < 1618067977 276968 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait APL is considered esoteric??? < 1618067994 20682 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know multiple people who think that APL/J are esolangs < 1618067999 272298 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh its article says "non-esoteric" < 1618068011 516022 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit esoteric, esoteric as in "usual" < 1618068017 396210 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/usual/unusual < 1618068578 396218 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.148 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1618068591 710305 :lyncid[m]!lyncidmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-sngnuefupnctcsoq PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hello betseg, didn't expect to see you here (am kritixi) < 1618068613 596536 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! > 1618068937 66102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Emojicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82057&oldid=66398 5* 03Betseg 5* (+55) 10Removed redirect to [[Emoji]] > 1618068999 121382 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Emojicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82058&oldid=82057 5* 03Betseg 5* (+53) 10 < 1618069526 909774 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed > 1618069531 678338 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Emojicode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82059&oldid=82058 5* 03Betseg 5* (+10) 10 < 1618069792 563205 :betseg!5f469ad6@unaffiliated/betseg QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1618069929 901223 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Bye! < 1618069983 90405 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618070126 340886 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esoteric > 1618071449 52882 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Falel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82060&oldid=82037 5* 03Umanochiocciola 5* (-133) 10/* Documentation */ > 1618071606 688850 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Falel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82061&oldid=82060 5* 03Umanochiocciola 5* (+37) 10/* Documentation */ > 1618071643 877766 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck But With Buffer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82062&oldid=81679 5* 03Umanochiocciola 5* (-35) 10/* Commands */ > 1618071664 665308 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Falel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82063&oldid=82061 5* 03Umanochiocciola 5* (+14) 10/* Documentation */ < 1618071770 959880 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618071939 64958 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric > 1618072838 530281 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82064 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+607) 10initial commit > 1618072907 141203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82065&oldid=82064 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+14) 10Corrected category link > 1618072967 529404 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82066&oldid=82065 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+0) 10Corrected category > 1618073275 205372 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82067&oldid=82055 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+24) 10Added toki pi ilo nanpa < 1618074118 664471 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618074622 982551 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618075827 243837 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1618077014 599079 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618077324 224470 :budonyc!~budonyc@c-24-62-207-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1618077324 566391 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1618077324 566441 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1618077324 694364 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1618077324 863492 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1618077324 863528 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex QUIT :*.net *.split < 1618077324 979689 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/ansible.staff.relrod QUIT :*.net *.split < 1618077382 86389 :budonyc!~budonyc@c-24-62-207-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618077382 86455 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618077382 86470 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1618077382 86481 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618077382 194801 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618077382 194852 :vertrex!~vertrex@unaffiliated/vertrex JOIN :#esoteric < 1618077382 194867 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/ansible.staff.relrod JOIN :#esoteric > 1618077893 473145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82068&oldid=82066 5* 03Betseg 5* (+14) 10 > 1618077905 249179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82069&oldid=82068 5* 03Betseg 5* (-15) 10 > 1618078000 386220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Emojicode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82070&oldid=82059 5* 03Betseg 5* (+39) 10 < 1618079426 790167 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618079818 696812 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618080191 308637 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618080206 285626 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooph, I finished Recursed... only to discover https://recursed-ice-palace.github.io/ < 1618081010 848823 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618081043 915259 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618081162 879224 :drunken__!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618081180 36754 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618081248 29142 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1618082125 659673 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82071&oldid=82069 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+2169) 10Base info on variables < 1618082144 25788 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1618082562 966956 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursed looks awesome, and very affordable too! Thanks for the mention. < 1618084167 644389 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618084195 873662 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olus2000: it is a very cute game. be warned that the puzzles get quite hard though. < 1618084285 356800 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I bought it two years ago actually and didn't finish it on the first run. I restarted from scratch a week or two ago... though obviously I still remembered quite a few tricks.) > 1618084305 621899 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DriftLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82072&oldid=81558 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-1) 10/* Syntactic sugar */ < 1618084352 982356 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618084360 271287 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1618087129 922197 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618087133 113675 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello again < 1618087139 302377 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a long hiatus, i am back < 1618087263 694234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1618087500 799267 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618087502 195096 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ollehrjan < 1618087765 219784 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1618087989 23817 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judging by the first half of the levels I wish it were harder, but I believe next word will start to be a serious problem. That's what I like in puzzle levels. < 1618088008 642880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e > 1618088091 741589 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82073&oldid=82056 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+184) 10/* Metacategorization */ Reply < 1618088145 27859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we've learned that vozzling is topologically similar to knitting, and children love vozzlers. < 1618088225 675894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i conclude that they're manifold surgeons, who repair hyperdimensional plush toys. < 1618088382 961481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: also it will be interesting to see if kjarl retains any of his time powers. should be useful in a war... < 1618088398 805093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although gil already has the dreen < 1618088425 340442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kjarl seems to be easier to communicate with > 1618088487 778702 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Blindfolded Arithmetic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82074&oldid=81643 5* 03Quintopia 5* (-4) 10correct analytical engine programming cards link < 1618088496 315570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still catching up to stuff. currently binging shtetl-optimized > 1618088572 604756 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Blindfolded Arithmetic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82075&oldid=82074 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+4) 10bullets < 1618088893 285461 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olus2000: it starts out easy... the first tricky levels should turn up in the ruins < 1618088965 847519 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so the 4th level set) < 1618089423 26728 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618090180 38972 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm I guess I have given up on trying to predict GG, so I have not thought about what Kjarl may do in the future. < 1618090315 661279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1618090325 33828 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was complicated enough before they skipped, what was it, 8 months? after Klaus froze Mechanicsburg. < 1618090390 513142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 1/2 years iirc < 1618090415 787597 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, worse < 1618090450 428281 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm pondering small things. Like... what did Krosp notice about that cat? < 1618090473 922847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory: martellus made it have super-high cat rank like krosp < 1618090500 170803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's the first cat he's ever met that doesn't submit to him < 1618090594 343449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially, she's the empress of all cats < 1618090607 291561 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be fun < 1618090679 602090 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1618092209 234380 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursaga < 1618092934 634593 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1618093057 384827 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82076&oldid=81744 5* 03Grom 5* (+12) 10 > 1618093185 37445 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82077&oldid=82076 5* 03Grom 5* (+0) 10 > 1618093216 742139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82078&oldid=82077 5* 03Grom 5* (+24) 10 > 1618093629 169675 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Analytical Engine Programming Cards14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82079&oldid=81642 5* 03Quintopia 5* (+3421) 10/* Attendant Cards */ < 1618093780 920201 :drunken__!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT : < 1618094574 613301 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618096044 744942 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618097058 777801 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618098686 127903 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to be able to skip to whatever level of the puzzle game that I want to do, and keep track of which ones are solved or unsolved < 1618101580 597726 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618101623 591852 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618101646 767232 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618103340 709467 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me if this is good http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/separate_deck_crypto it is what I mentioned a few days ago < 1618104044 859006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1618105214 865759 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618106619 427832 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618106644 613156 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618107726 304686 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618107744 784719 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618108209 930707 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shdhyxoxkigensao QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1618110194 927744 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82080 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+296) 10Created page with "E++ is a language made by me. It is a joke language. It is a copy of E. Binary list: E - binary 1 A - binary 0 Command list: 101101001 - Prints E 100101110 - Prints A 10110 -..." > 1618110296 128618 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Category:Joke language14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82081 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+30) 10Created page with "I don't know what to put here." > 1618110402 53440 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82082&oldid=82080 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+5) 10 > 1618110438 727325 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82083&oldid=82082 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+3) 10 > 1618110593 657736 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82084&oldid=81956 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+53) 10 > 1618110634 580671 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Category:Schadimander's Things14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82085 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+14) 10Created page with "Nevermind here" < 1618116150 930295 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1618118578 218841 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618119890 880308 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.118 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1618120313 221436 :paul2520!~paul2520@unaffiliated/paul2520 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1618121357 974051 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1618122453 212211 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: ... < 1618122702 968622 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618123513 56244 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1618128426 794582 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618128573 733923 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1618128704 851050 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitwise Trance14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82086&oldid=81611 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+2349) 10Add two more examples > 1618129004 971526 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Subreal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82087&oldid=76531 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+95) 10Clarify invalid operation behavior > 1618129042 427633 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Finite-state mach... wait, WHAT!?14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82088&oldid=73315 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+1865) 10Add TIO links > 1618129322 586690 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:LyricLy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82089 5* 03Citrons 5* (+14) 10/* beans */ new section < 1618130181 698061 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1618133270 36451 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618138965 742691 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1618140132 873886 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Schadimander14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82090 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+63) 10Created page with "It is me, Schadimander! You can talk below this text. Have fun!" > 1618140239 348735 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82091&oldid=82083 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+29) 10 > 1618140280 354636 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82092&oldid=82091 5* 03Schadimander 5* (+4) 10 < 1618140418 122688 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618141297 742405 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric < 1618142815 608008 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618143106 403032 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618144509 818727 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618145663 37471 :olus2000!5fa09d79@095160157121.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-1-0.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618146114 818314 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric > 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< 1618165988 36155 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618169963 154747 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what class of language would it be if there was a programming language that had no conditionals or branches - but < 1618169977 103863 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :had self modification and by definition each program was in an infinite loop ? < 1618170028 341973 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on the details but such a thing could easily be turing-complete < 1618170106 780139 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can easily build data conditionals out of arithmetic -- if x is a 0-or-1 bool then x*a + (1-x)*b is equivelent to (x ? a : b) < 1618170132 248091 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you have self modifying code then it's easy to turn data conditionals into control flow conditionals < 1618170339 630057 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :delta23: what do you think of https://esolangs.org/wiki/SMETANA < 1618170381 536034 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ic < 1618170424 937495 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that case is more obvious though < 1618170477 605769 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1618170550 63219 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :delta23: Well, it's simple, it has no conditionals, and it is self-modifying. < 1618170600 435121 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can implement unconditional 'goto' as a write to some 'program counter' variable < 1618170601 588681 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618170605 702101 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not in SMETANA but in general I mean) < 1618170641 953013 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :every instruction in your infinite loop is assigned a "line number" and is coded in such a way that it checks the pc variable and has no side effect unless the pc is equal to that line number < 1618170652 124733 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you 'goto' by writing to pc and just waiting for it to loop around to that instruction < 1618170773 493008 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 X = Y; GOTO 20 ==> x = (pc == 10 ? y : x); pc = 20 < 1618170781 70334 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sort of thing doesn't need self modifying code either < 1618170791 21618 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618170794 766528 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1618170796 204534 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless your arthimetic primitives are sufficiently impovrished < 1618170827 235395 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if you allow ?: you should be happy with Fractran-like formalisms. < 1618170889 301962 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, fractran is a good point of reference here < 1618170915 104383 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I aimed to show above that the ?: construct is not essential < 1618170926 567938 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have more ordinary arithmetic < 1618171222 971740 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( s/SGX (compromise|vulnerability)/SGX backdoor/g ) < 1618171518 193748 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :EWRONGCHAN < 1618174873 891014 :harha_!~harha@ns356919.ip-91-121-144.eu QUIT :Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in < 1618175137 404210 :harha_!~harha@ns356919.ip-91-121-144.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1618176569 646047 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 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:FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1618185875 695568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric > 1618186321 593016 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Category:Joke language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82097&oldid=82081 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-30) 10This should be deleted > 1618186349 66213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82098&oldid=82093 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+9) 10Stub < 1618186917 27315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1618186991 870337 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618187016 643899 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1618187620 150521 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PYSP14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82099 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+1637) 10Created page with "'''PYSP''' (for '''PYthon String Programming''') is a DSL embedded by an unknown user in Python, described as '[[lisp]]like'. It seems to have been inspired by such languages..." > 1618187778 551931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PYSP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82100&oldid=82099 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+222) 10Fix formatting > 1618188177 167837 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Category:Joke language10]]": empty, unapproved category (the approved one is [[Category:Joke languages]]) > 1618188265 954515 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Category:Schadimander's Things10]]": unapproved/undiscussed category > 1618188295 260663 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82101&oldid=82067 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+11) 10/* P */ Add PYSP > 1618188335 775665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PYSP14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82102&oldid=82100 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+15) 10Wording > 1618188382 831081 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82103&oldid=82073 5* 03Ais523 5* (+496) 10/* Can we have an Imperative paradigm category now please? */ no objection, but some things to think about < 1618188791 772608 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1618190138 775488 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07OISC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82104&oldid=82026 5* 03Ais523 5* (-9) 10/* List of OISCs */ table formatting fix < 1618190689 753990 :ubq323!~ubq323@host109-148-97-157.range109-148.btcentralplus.com PART #esoteric :"the" < 1618191840 994232 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1618192246 17893 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zbqbfvcklnwtphsz QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1618193351 754975 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PYSP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82105&oldid=82102 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+109) 10Adapt to new data about reference implementation < 1618194488 671760 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618196400 748827 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 QUIT :Quit: I seem to have stopped. < 1618196501 19666 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1618197833 18051 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618201226 446025 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rpswngmqxgyxmyrw QUIT :*.net *.split < 1618202481 10848 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-tvtdwethkwiihfpl JOIN :#esoteric < 1618202625 805125 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do some C compilers do that target an instruction set that does not use an addressable stack (if there is any)? < 1618202740 635947 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does LLVM support such a thing at all? > 1618202799 676178 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82106&oldid=81933 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+52) 10Aheui < 1618203414 920179 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1618204973 709215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PYSP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82107&oldid=82105 5* 03LyricLy 5* (-11) 10 < 1618206608 973567 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618206627 967273 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618206880 591015 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618206898 873916 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1618208599 500418 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Naz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82108&oldid=80503 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+135) 10command -> instruction, other changes < 1618210052 423335 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone mentioned to me today about a programming language to make animations about mathematics, but I don't know what it is. < 1618210399 115818 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618210601 532557 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some JS library for animations that some math youtube channel is using < 1618214523 688784 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618214832 832979 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618214973 743043 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1618216987 684271 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82109&oldid=79801 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+1691) 10v1.5.3+ changelogs; 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First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618233962 488255 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1231 < 1618233965 373598 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1231.html: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1618235094 848861 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1618235215 139302 :APic!apic@185.203.114.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618235473 37350 :APic!apic@185.203.114.187 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618235489 733169 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618235622 86429 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1618236401 771398 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618237146 699842 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.117 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618237272 939765 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618238427 911428 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618238680 359908 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618238695 963989 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618239253 1232 :me!0533ab77@5-51-171-119.abo.bbox.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1618239276 934258 :me!0533ab77@5-51-171-119.abo.bbox.fr NICK :Guest60144 < 1618239314 361191 :Guest60144!0533ab77@5-51-171-119.abo.bbox.fr QUIT :Client Quit > 1618241106 147644 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07E++14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82115&oldid=82098 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-36) 10Remove redcat < 1618241793 96446 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618242228 594345 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1618244794 628721 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618246518 489181 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric > 1618248061 501338 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Not applicable/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82116&oldid=81757 5* 03Not applicable 5* (+2375) 10start work on StupidZM > 1618248117 637692 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Not applicable/Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82117&oldid=82116 5* 03Not applicable 5* (+0) 10i always mess up something... < 1618248267 880390 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618249655 174094 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618249672 966809 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618249711 237527 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618252633 223470 :oozed1!~textual@185.240.244.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618252656 568642 :oozed1!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello again < 1618252664 652083 :oozed1!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im under a different username this time < 1618253270 716267 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1618253895 545483 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618253911 948829 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618253980 454031 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618253998 955855 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618255006 956163 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618256922 594299 :oozed1!~textual@185.240.244.141 QUIT :Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1618257042 241758 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618257257 878860 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1618257258 221325 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1618257806 610384 :oozed1!~textual@185.240.244.140 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618259860 820739 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618260679 105672 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618261808 954455 :Wezl79!45f35b75@c-69-243-91-117.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618261848 959497 :Wezl79!45f35b75@c-69-243-91-117.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1618266157 970775 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618266183 746615 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618272761 899079 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618275792 681505 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1618276087 573734 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1618276832 738936 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Beniolenio 5* 10New user account > 1618277195 1728 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82118&oldid=82112 5* 03Beniolenio 5* (+398) 10/* Introductions */ < 1618277581 616265 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1618279711 193121 :oozed1!~textual@185.240.244.140 QUIT :Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1618291305 24413 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618291341 853637 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1618291571 252752 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xevksgpnhxylybkh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1618292848 608990 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618295160 47209 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric > 1618295876 632075 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BitBounce14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82120&oldid=81623 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+6514) 10Add hello world and cat programs > 1618295914 663014 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BitBounce14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82121&oldid=82120 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-1) 10 < 1618296083 697229 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1618296136 613775 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric > 1618296696 501060 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Golden sunrise14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82122&oldid=71043 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+3354) 10Add TIO links and hello world example < 1618297470 773564 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1618298254 995736 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618299350 631218 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618301015 487927 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618301240 840325 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618301397 779194 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1618301982 272876 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82123&oldid=82095 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+3486) 10 > 1618302068 782961 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82124&oldid=82123 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+7) 10unmached  > 1618302131 677979 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82125&oldid=82124 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+1) 10More unmached  > 1618303438 842994 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Wolfos 5* 10New user account > 1618303477 540653 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82126&oldid=82119 5* 03Wolfos 5* (+138) 10 > 1618303506 422318 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ook!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82127&oldid=59956 5* 03Wolfos 5* (-46) 10 > 1618303811 29230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Floof14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82128 5* 03Julia 5* (+4926) 10init Floof page > 1618303993 945098 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Floof14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82129&oldid=82128 5* 03Julia 5* (-44) 10removed unneeded italics > 1618304185 909074 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Julia14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82130 5* 03Julia 5* (+8) 10init me < 1618308029 826719 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1618308565 513155 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1618310059 632439 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1618313369 602626 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82131 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+5224) 10+[[]] > 1618313374 614960 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82132&oldid=82101 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+9) 10+[[]] > 1618313378 573798 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh40014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82133&oldid=81998 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+9) 10+[[]] > 1618313417 586475 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh40014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82134&oldid=82133 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+0) 10 > 1618313429 618105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh40014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82135&oldid=82134 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+0) 10 > 1618313745 48164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82136&oldid=82131 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+9) 10 > 1618313903 78805 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82137&oldid=82136 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+0) 10 > 1618314098 598083 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82138&oldid=82137 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+50) 10 > 1618314170 584300 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82139&oldid=82138 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-2) 10 < 1618315329 397147 :LKoen_!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618315491 918192 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1618316238 3231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82140&oldid=82125 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+68) 10/* Values and types */ < 1618316286 45177 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric > 1618316450 246859 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82141&oldid=82140 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+1) 10/* Paragraphs */ > 1618316554 517769 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82142&oldid=82141 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+115) 10/* Assignment */ > 1618316929 934867 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82143&oldid=82142 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+110) 10/* Paragraphs */ explained how to pass parameters to paragraphs > 1618317119 379191 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82144&oldid=82143 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+12) 10/* Control structures */ < 1618318269 803992 :oozed1!~textual@185.240.244.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618318526 682979 :oozed1!~textual@185.240.244.141 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1618318536 661404 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82145&oldid=82132 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+12) 10/* F */ [[Floof]] < 1618318808 637039 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-53-225.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618318886 851510 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618319878 442337 :paul321!~klaus@x4dbf44c8.dyn.telefonica.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1618319901 260756 :paul321!~klaus@x4dbf44c8.dyn.telefonica.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin moin < 1618320039 803243 :paul321!~klaus@x4dbf44c8.dyn.telefonica.de PART :#esoteric < 1618320296 545822 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1618320297 570338 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82146&oldid=82144 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+951) 10 > 1618320358 109024 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82147&oldid=82146 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+2) 10unmached  < 1618320860 837739 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.117 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1618322259 668202 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-007-125-001.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds > 1618322739 126108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Multiply14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82148&oldid=79528 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-83) 10/* Implementation */ Remove duplication < 1618322828 953999 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-007-125-001.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1618323103 16678 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@128-124-53-225.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1618323990 880249 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1618324580 236063 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82149&oldid=82147 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+1457) 10 < 1618327597 933808 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1618327727 789450 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82150&oldid=82149 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+891) 10More verbs < 1618328064 80043 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618330489 699677 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618331562 848656 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1618333645 90215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SBN14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82151&oldid=81583 5* 03Kefalonia 5* (+15) 10make the sentence readable < 1618335257 918086 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618338233 311499 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618341526 85900 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618341963 35878 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618342021 879507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1618342032 656818 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618343260 435313 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618343300 46257 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618343433 535981 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618343448 104407 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618343483 523741 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618343645 23396 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618343669 539914 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1618344334 680530 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82152&oldid=82150 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+39) 10 < 1618346162 215824 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618346180 13773 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1618346313 70286 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07202014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82153&oldid=81913 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+44) 10Added Rhapsody in Blue to unimplemented ideas comment < 1618346433 279567 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618346449 49324 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618348459 508154 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf > 1618348562 427602 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82154&oldid=82152 5* 03Olus2000 5* (-39) 10Colons are not a part of the language < 1618348616 660842 :LKoen_!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618353955 566338 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1618355920 876459 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618356813 823358 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618356939 833040 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618359182 756910 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618359252 983796 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618359731 824374 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618363182 856691 :arcsor5!~arcsor5@45.144.113.117 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618365448 558421 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618365743 578654 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric > 1618365839 852208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82155&oldid=81251 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+303) 10/* Euler's birthday is coming. */ new section > 1618365883 346111 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Befunk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82156&oldid=43145 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+25) 10Recategorization < 1618366515 592566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1618366545 671128 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618367329 596694 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618368751 402449 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1618369723 40408 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618369754 279752 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618369771 173641 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618370397 951504 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618372666 3340 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1618372719 981994 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1618377651 341484 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618379300 237420 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want web browser to include a "mime-override:" URI scheme. < 1618379335 753444 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you want? < 1618382190 270238 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618382773 641387 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618384194 260338 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: to bed... probably < 1618387624 834260 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618387797 697059 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618389131 906489 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-49-25.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618390448 437976 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-49-25.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1618392180 908852 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1618393421 714927 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618395494 301346 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618396106 104114 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” > 1618396417 794643 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07XO Mchne14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82157&oldid=71617 5* 03SubleqIsTheBestLeq 5* (-1) 10/* C Implementation */ Fixed common mistake < 1618396965 746744 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618396983 776529 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric > 1618397398 594781 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Subleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82158&oldid=82113 5* 03SubleqIsTheBestLeq 5* (+373) 10Added clarification about the OISC-y-ness of most SUBLEQ implementions. < 1618401512 260363 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 JOIN :#esoteric > 1618404886 603404 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82159&oldid=81304 5* 03RetroPain 5* (+9) 10/* Truth-machine */ > 1618404915 561952 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82160&oldid=82159 5* 03RetroPain 5* (+1) 10/* Truth-machine */ < 1618407954 758386 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ulsesohqvglaumvh JOIN :#esoteric < 1618408566 23072 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618408783 456997 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618408798 159116 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618409203 627180 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1618409692 939425 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esoteric.codes/blog/david-madore newer interview with David Madore < 1618410078 977066 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618412425 845889 :NotApplicable!4055ad82@64.85.173.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618412711 445846 :NotApplicable!4055ad82@64.85.173.130 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1618414610 470737 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618414653 996243 :NotApplicable!4055ad82@64.85.173.130 JOIN :#esoteric > 1618414731 478513 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82161&oldid=82160 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+46) 10/* Hello, world! */ Make sentence truer > 1618414799 289945 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PDA-er14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82162&oldid=81915 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+389) 10/* Examples */ > 1618414908 813604 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PDA-er14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82163&oldid=82162 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+59) 10/* Overview */ > 1618414938 779805 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DFA-er14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82164&oldid=81700 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+59) 10/* Overview */ < 1618415305 19215 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618416933 709374 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ulsesohqvglaumvh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1618417187 838490 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618417390 634665 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618417407 154773 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618417691 874089 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618419501 56574 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618419612 269466 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618419630 166306 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618419883 593536 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618419900 41419 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618419921 597584 :NotApplicable!4055ad82@64.85.173.130 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1618420054 964683 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618420067 286748 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1618420120 527891 :shikhin_!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1618420289 636755 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618420319 93227 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618420483 409751 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618420499 108525 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618421740 570359 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric > 1618422975 740712 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Makonede 5* 10New user account < 1618423115 800519 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1618423115 968047 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82165&oldid=82126 5* 03Makonede 5* (+117) 10 > 1618424481 709180 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82166 5* 03Makonede 5* (+522) 10Created page with "'''Duocentehexaquinquagesimal''' is a derivative of [[Golunar]], which itself is a derivative of [[Unary]], which itself is a derivative of [[brainfuck]]. It operates in nearl..." > 1618424614 471451 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82167&oldid=82166 5* 03Makonede 5* (+276) 10 > 1618424657 443622 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82168&oldid=82145 5* 03Makonede 5* (+33) 10 > 1618425232 265537 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82169&oldid=82167 5* 03Makonede 5* (+39) 10 > 1618425252 157550 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Makonede14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82170 5* 03Makonede 5* (+5) 10Created page with "hello" > 1618425337 934997 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Makonede14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82171&oldid=82170 5* 03Makonede 5* (+48) 10 > 1618425344 569417 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Makonede14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82172&oldid=82171 5* 03Makonede 5* (-1) 10 > 1618425610 416489 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82173&oldid=82169 5* 03Makonede 5* (+36) 10 > 1618425627 149116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82174&oldid=82173 5* 03Makonede 5* (+2) 10 < 1618427393 118495 :gilesgate!gilesgate@sdf-eu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1618428429 793102 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618428895 983818 :gilesgate!gilesgate@sdf-eu.org QUIT :Quit: -rn- < 1618428915 405302 :gilesgate!gilesgate@sdf-eu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1618429290 290738 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I find the IRC that someone may be interested in my "Free Hero Mesh" software? I tried #freenode but they wouldn't help. < 1618429966 972294 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618430081 481440 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618430104 957509 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618430105 148912 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1618430487 701941 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618430758 956029 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618430777 548455 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1618431504 294276 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82175&oldid=82174 5* 03Makonede 5* (-36) 10 < 1618433690 217094 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Maybe create a channel and mention it on the FHM page? But maybe nobody cares... < 1618434374 668071 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618434387 489633 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618434402 544752 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618434661 938856 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618434679 475958 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618437127 159246 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in < 1618437144 331480 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 JOIN :#esoteric > 1618437703 876195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82176&oldid=82175 5* 03Makonede 5* (+423) 10 > 1618437848 385481 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82177&oldid=82176 5* 03Makonede 5* (+5) 10 < 1618441370 759643 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618441691 894156 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618442222 624038 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618442244 812064 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1618443067 217655 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Emoticon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82178&oldid=75966 5* 03Mercerenies 5* (+368) 10 < 1618443268 544529 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i used to hang out here years ago. I wonder what happened to the other folks that were around then, perhaps everyone has moved to some new platform? < 1618443331 375040 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe they are just not on any more; sometimes that happens. < 1618443380 661524 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough, that's probably more likely. < 1618443454 685255 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, let's see, i was here last in ~2009. I think i only recognise the two bots! :p < 1618443511 838188 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i had come back to say thank you: although i can't prove it, i suspect that the time i spent on this channel was formative in my life choices and education, so thanks all! < 1618443580 374639 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm hmm. https://esolangs.org/logs/2008-03-21.html#lek < 1618443620 207527 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: wow, yes! < 1618443682 826621 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 and oerjan still drop in occasionally. A lot of other people have indeed disappeared over timew < 1618443685 853494 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-w < 1618443703 644105 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it turns out that that example for Tree is incorrect, but i've never gone back to fix it. I also think i can't now, as the email address with my account is gone. Or at least, i can't fix it as me < 1618443735 492674 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: cool! i'd love to say hi, so i think i'll hang around. < 1618443736 336854 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais < 1618443756 452820 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 helped me with my highschool homework, though i doubt he remembers < 1618443890 260870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think AnMaster (subsequently, Vorpal) also dropped by sometime last year, but didn't say anything. < 1618443892 69195 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually, any idea who has admin priveleges over the Wiki and whether it would be possible to reclaim my account? < 1618443907 270584 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie knows ;) < 1618444032 31774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose your account is associated with an email address that you've still got access to? The problem with that kind of thing is, it's hard to be principled about what level of proof of identity it needs, otherwise. < 1618444085 94861 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i completely understand. There's a small chance i migrated it to an address i can still reach. I'll try that now < 1618444126 697492 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618444154 867061 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact i was just wondering what, if anything, would constitute a proof of identity) < 1618444162 753609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, your password recovery email just bounced. < 1618444202 970066 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, apparently i didn't have the foresight to change my listed address when i dropped that email account < 1618444264 393732 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, wait, bounced as in the email address was invalid, or bounced as in the email address i submitted was not linked to the account? < 1618444297 529694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former. Gmail says "The email account that you tried to reach does not exist". Hmm. < 1618444325 71668 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, this is the problem. I `deleted' my gmail account (inasmuch as google does that) < 1618444390 34842 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i don't want to press you fizzie to compromise your morals or make an exception here, i completely understand the slippery slope. If there is something you'd be comfortable with i'd be happy to try, but otherwise don't worry :) < 1618444406 746306 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618444411 648762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of silly. I don't imagine identity fraud using esolangs.org wiki accounts is exactly top on anyone's list, but it'd be nice to have *some* sort of rationale. < 1618444435 59545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I guess your user page mentions "maximum_yellow", which does match your Freenode account name, that's kind of a data point. < 1618444477 329072 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can produce public keys, my academic website, maybe even references if oerjan/ais523/... rejoin < 1618444497 88930 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders registering a new gmail account right now just try to make a point :-P (I have no clue how google feels about reusing old email addresses... or about allowing gmail.com, for that matter) < 1618444518 928635 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure that anything i do would ever be convincing, and i understand that < 1618444554 131344 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a likely looking address is in the logs) < 1618444561 669948 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: :) surely they must bar this, but who knows < 1618444567 722735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I think it is pretty convincing, I just don't know where to put the threshold. < 1618444623 799883 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 years of inactivity might lower the threshold < 1618444626 597663 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1618444631 912496 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no rush fizzie, i plan to hang around for a while :) < 1618444652 980605 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, months/years to come) < 1618444656 923360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's not exactly a common name, I would say. So if you've got an email address that's sort of publicly on a official-looking web page, I could forward that password reset email there? < 1618444785 129700 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fizzie generously agreed after pointing to an academic institution webpage! woo! I can finally fix that incorrect example :p < 1618444881 988387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sent. Should be something titled "Account details on Esolang". < 1618444910 294274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am reminded by that one prisoner who freed himself by having a friend fax a convincing-looking letter from a copy shop, though. < 1618444985 410391 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using digital signatures might help, if you added your public key to your user page from that user account, but if not, then that won't help. < 1618445308 986931 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618446115 749985 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: excellent, thanks again! I believe i have changed my email address :) > 1618446691 518916 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hiato14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82179&oldid=25996 5* 03Hiato 5* (+104) 10 < 1618446818 182657 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1618446965 826561 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tree14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82180&oldid=78380 5* 03Hiato 5* (+194) 1012 years later the second ``example'' becomes an example in earnest < 1618447005 47120 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there we have it, Tree finally has a control flow example, that i didn't write, 12 years after the fact :p < 1618447033 301264 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trees take time to grow < 1618447038 848873 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1618447575 612323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of growing, I should get back to that game sometime. < 1618447666 369762 :tslil!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 NICK :op_4 < 1618447776 744108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, is resolution even closer to contraction than modus ponens is? > 1618448785 602483 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Subreal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82181&oldid=82087 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+388) 10Clarify the behavior of subfinite loops > 1618448803 431748 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Subreal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82182&oldid=82181 5* 03RocketRace 5* (-5) 10/* Subfinite loops */ < 1618448992 477393 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this channel was formative in my life choices and education" < 1618449005 861991 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you chose to become a befunge programmer? < 1618449074 164926 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot do you speak Russian? < 1618449074 489070 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: essentials of programming languages' in the new iteration can you use ' all yall'? that ' a' < 1618449376 653269 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618450122 468767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on a quick grep of a few Cyrillic characters, I think the wp style's the only one that might have some Russian words in it. (And I don't know if even that does, necessarily.) < 1618450230 372174 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: i consider my area of mathematics to be rather close actually < 1618450251 209066 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm tslil) < 1618451039 882554 :budonyc!~budonyc@c-24-62-207-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1618451066 9694 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :op_4: 10 years ago? that's a long time < 1618451103 539796 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the scary part is that 10 years ago was in 2011, because we're solidly in the future) < 1618451236 799509 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't on #esoteric yet 10 years ago < 1618451350 663249 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I arrived here too late < 1618451706 701199 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in 2013 apparently) < 1618451858 958378 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1618451890 773901 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618452176 809861 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1618452180 318530 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1618452184 294020 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1618452189 336549 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses new keyboard < 1618452214 3829 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah, i try not to think that it would take 21 years to get back to the 90's < 1618452230 873005 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i doubt there's a too late, only generations < 1618454096 376846 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have another idea of Magic: the Gathering card: {?} World Enchantment ;; Attacking creatures have flanking. ;; Blocking creatures have first strike. ;; When ~ dies, target creature gains haste and gets -2/-1 until end of turn. > 1618454197 860522 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82183&oldid=82177 5* 03Makonede 5* (+3) 10 < 1618455411 543954 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618455525 571315 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618455540 487507 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1618456142 127226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TSL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82184&oldid=17339 5* 03Hiato 5* (-6) 10Corrected an example for RWLR III < 1618456145 607420 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: growing's pretty fun. in some ways it's even more fun when you're older < 1618456191 496373 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :op_4: oh huh, tslil, i think i recognize that name < 1618456245 307183 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i might recognise you too? < 1618456249 364437 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1618456269 754523 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been less frequently here than in the past but i've been around since, uh, 2005 < 1618456303 136868 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, then we definitely met! I think i was here starting around 2007 or so < 1618456310 304476 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels old < 1618456310 411872 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1618456314 290571 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too < 1618456340 911418 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 31, whee < 1618456349 865692 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting that minor edits are also picked up by the bot, is there no way to avoid spamming the channel? < 1618456356 555623 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now embarrassed < 1618456363 191406 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 29 < 1618456371 553371 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't realize, i've had that bot muted for aaages xd < 1618456417 611596 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i didn't make you feel old, it's just that 2007 feels *so long ago* < 1618456437 792922 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1618456448 147180 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet also so recent < 1618456457 837605 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1618456472 319865 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted some of that is just cause so much of my 20s were less "succeeding" and more "randomly flailing" < 1618456548 351662 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all bad mind < 1618456581 204178 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :just, took a while to get there < 1618456603 207664 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, the phase i'm now. momentum had me taking a random walk through highschool -> undergrad -> masters -> phd but now ... ? < 1618456623 247382 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dropped out of college twice and got my bachelors' the third attempt < 1618456625 588295 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :different flailing < 1618456661 630487 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :different, but honestly i don't know that i've gone forwards in anything but time < 1618456683 508323 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :understanding of the self, perhaps < 1618456690 367832 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i definitely have gone forwards on that < 1618456697 757015 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618456728 157653 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's great, i'm happy to hear it. And anyway congratulations for going back to college and triumphing < 1618456766 185522 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like google and then college is the _unusual_ route but hey < 1618456796 353958 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, impressive, i didn't know the context :) < 1618456837 343383 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION damned well earned her math degree, that's for sure < 1618456896 435411 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1618456911 42258 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool! i'm doing maths too < 1618456920 629884 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice :) < 1618456945 345990 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i suspect i'll end up doing programming for work < 1618456960 934543 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm back as a software engineer after that < 1618456988 858454 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :happier and more successful one than i was before, tho that's partly for other reasons *shrug* < 1618457027 12868 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like research, but i just don't think i can continue teaching undergraduate courses. At least, the undergrads at my present institution and the courses i've TAd/taught have left me feeling burnt out on that < 1618457052 44289 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's what i'm thinking. many of my friends went into tech stuff and they say the same things < 1618457148 215754 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly kinda hate the industry at large, but i think i feel okay about my current job < 1618457179 39013 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm finally starting to feel like i have time for hobby things again :) < 1618457273 851131 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i'm sorry to hear that. Well at least you're finding time for yourself and ways to grow < 1618457312 732507 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :got the new job in january, previous job was driving me to burnout < 1618457323 275690 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, well past < 1618457417 99208 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it happens tho. wasn't super optimistic about the long-term prospects there when i started, because, y'know, woman in tech :/ < 1618457551 476992 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'est la vie < 1618457650 509338 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, that sucks :/ < 1618457680 516343 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you optimistic about this new one? < 1618457693 468897 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far it's been going very well :) < 1618457697 284549 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah < 1618457711 121096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started a new job last week and I can't yet make any statement about optimism. < 1618457717 603990 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fair < 1618457733 832477 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes at least a few months before you have enough lay of the land to make any concrete statements < 1618457783 56966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is particularly bad if your job is in construction. < 1618457788 755658 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1618457825 625874 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha > 1618457847 588771 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TSL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82185&oldid=82184 5* 03Hiato 5* (+252) 10added example of addition programme < 1618457853 913023 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that bot is fast < 1618457864 835510 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i'm off to bed, see you all around < 1618457870 459505 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :my job's a healthcare related startup. not the sexiest tech-wise but it's not bad and i like it < 1618457872 133860 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1618457914 481680 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll probably do the same < 1618457927 892724 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspects her wife is gonna be up for a bit *shrug* < 1618464246 713707 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 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:metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618506750 604800 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618506846 637016 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1618507317 694423 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618507394 793799 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1618508095 475828 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82194&oldid=82191 5* 03Strohtaler 5* (+505) 10Zirconium > 1618508200 391356 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82195&oldid=82194 5* 03Strohtaler 5* (+5) 10/* Zirconium */ < 1618509341 738935 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618509387 604925 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618509522 836467 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdnzmfrdrqdhhkjp JOIN :#esoteric > 1618510996 179476 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82196&oldid=81926 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-135) 10 > 1618511015 155298 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82197&oldid=82196 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+1) 10 > 1618511198 84600 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82198&oldid=82197 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-2) 10 > 1618512000 874431 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82199&oldid=82198 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-1) 10 < 1618512062 977642 :lauraaah!uid156848@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vbynknuxhphlwqsw PART :#esoteric > 1618512197 779572 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82200&oldid=82199 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (+4) 10 < 1618513222 534745 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1618514021 666743 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deskin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82201&oldid=82200 5* 03Leothetechguy 5* (-9) 10 < 1618516374 676369 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618516564 969035 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618516568 251736 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1618518502 378317 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:f578:4105:a8a4:82fa JOIN :#esoteric < 1618519701 680463 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdnzmfrdrqdhhkjp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1618520728 280544 :LKoen_!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618523231 948794 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618524016 773389 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1618524069 814441 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618525638 278287 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:f578:4105:a8a4:82fa QUIT :Quit: We must know, we will know < 1618526792 372416 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1618527796 503351 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(off topic) I don't suppose anyone here is familiar with the gemini protocol < 1618528085 733206 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am familiar with it. < 1618528199 687909 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have other questions? < 1618528280 970910 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, i do, but i'm now realising i could possibly answer this in part for myself. < 1618528331 368110 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering why a particular client decided that my page title for my index.gmi page should be " - ". Specifically i was wondering whether there was something in the spec that specified page titles < 1618528339 449267 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can just look at the spec i suppose < 1618528376 585537 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the specification recommends that. However, a client could be implemented differently (e.g. using only the H1 title or only the URL). < 1618528414 557351 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, thanks. Yeah, for some reason my client does only "" for some pages, but not others. < 1618528457 744910 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, this is as good an excuse as any to poke around with server software :) < 1618528596 309844 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike that it requires TLS. My suggestion is to add a new URI scheme for the insecure version, perhaps "insecure-gemini://" can be used. Error codes that specify that a client certificate is required is not allowed in this case; if a client certificate is required, then the secure version must be used. < 1618528667 631120 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This would be an optional feature, of course; but sometimes it might be useful, e.g. for testing purposes.) < 1618528729 878450 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an interesting and reasonable compromise idea < 1618530415 944148 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric > 1618530828 479849 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Project Euler14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82202 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+549) 10Create < 1618532582 916517 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1618532867 135548 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves < 1618534269 217996 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq < 1618534936 275346 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has had a fruitful day of professional computer-touching < 1618535567 104112 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618535585 30618 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618535838 411243 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618535855 33878 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1618537944 971248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07STOD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82203&oldid=75117 5* 03Mercerenies 5* (+38) 10 < 1618541659 922313 :mla!~mla@162.253.176.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618542862 315538 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eeudlqiuuwrtzpbi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1618543297 662904 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618544185 996905 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1618544676 621236 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use hashes for random numbers? My idea is that the random number seed consists of two parts (which can contain arbitrary data), being the sequence number and the hash; use the hash of that as the random numbers, and then the next seed is the next sequence number (the initial sequence number can be any number, not necessarily zero) and the previous hash. < 1618545772 77371 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why not. < 1618546111 203288 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the method I suggested work? < 1618547768 838402 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like it's basically just constructing a stream cipher out of a hash function? < 1618547824 565866 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :while i wouldn't be confident without a cryptographer looking into it, there probably is an acceptable construction that looks something kind of like that < 1618548712 127760 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The sequence number does not start at zero, because if it does, then it is possible to predict the random numbers.) < 1618551104 969891 :grumble!~Thunderbi@freenode/staff/grumble QUIT :Ping timeout: 608 seconds < 1618552887 878901 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1618553885 999367 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82204&oldid=81574 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+1873) 10/* C */ < 1618556318 922434 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1618556892 767942 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82205&oldid=82204 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+223) 10/* C */ > 1618557038 956662 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82206&oldid=81930 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+2129) 10 > 1618557097 688752 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82207&oldid=82206 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+17) 10 < 1618558986 408618 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmrfnsgpgjqpkmjn JOIN :#esoteric < 1618560419 717503 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618560573 721637 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618560956 880521 :jix!~jix@static.71.5.69.159.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.0 < 1618561299 974366 :jix!~jix@static.71.5.69.159.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1618561355 326018 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618562233 20701 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618562346 912077 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1618563594 398228 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618567965 35530 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618570767 997962 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick question. does git still only use sha-1 checksums, and how easy is it for a motivated attacker to mess up your repository by causing you to commit files with sha-1 collisions? < 1618571227 681119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did some sort of a pinpoint mitigation for the shattered.io attack that I forget the details of, but I don't think the more ambitious plan of moving entirely out of SHA-1 has happened yet. < 1618571283 871798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://git-scm.com/docs/hash-function-transition/ "Git v2.13.0 and later subsequently moved to a hardened SHA-1 implementation by default, which isn’t vulnerable to the SHAttered attack, but SHA-1 is still weak." < 1618571583 289600 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mostly asking because someone wants to use git for storing certain some data in the future, where I think it would be a bad idea to use git, not only because of the sha-1 but for other reasons too, and want to give arguments to change their mind < 1618571608 941339 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1618572787 831292 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should use git if data is binary < 1618572791 837135 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1618572828 289776 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, wanted to ask < 1618572846 937574 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone of you ever seen the accidental md5 collision? < 1618572855 589592 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in reality < 1618572887 94975 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your real projects, not brought to you by upvoted funny blog posts < 1618572925 667502 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*should not < 1618572932 92296 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(typo in my first message) < 1618573731 790804 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618573746 982567 :hakatashi1!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618576107 711412 :djanatyn1!~djanatyn@vps-7f49a6b0.vps.ovh.ca NICK :djanatyn < 1618576637 608495 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618577036 609379 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618580886 775545 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618582653 601743 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah puzzles. https://paste.debian.net/1193985/ :) < 1618582754 667455 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "(X moves first)" is tautology here < 1618582766 551493 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that it can be inferred :) < 1618582832 626070 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's not *quite* tautological... in Othello, O might have had the first move, but been forced to pass < 1618582898 277961 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618582934 595820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618582957 182861 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it actually turns out that the shortest Reversi games are one move shorter than the shortest Othello games. < 1618583074 721649 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in these positions with O to move, the game just ends: https://paste.debian.net/1193986/ < 1618583322 705668 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, didn't know < 1618583357 602492 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to check Wikipedia on the precise rules. < 1618583448 299363 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally resolving a bit of cognitive dissonance that I've been suffering for a few decades :-P (because I learned the Reversi rules as a kid, and then I played Othello a lot on Windows, and the fixed starting pattern as well as the passing rule felt kind of wrong) < 1618583749 736238 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A possible solution is https://paste.debian.net/1193987/ ...not sure how feasible this is without a computer. But I liked the diamond shape, that was unexpected.) < 1618583864 799425 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of those, I've just played Reversi on Windows 1.02. Not sure whether its exact rules match the name. < 1618583894 343958 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was reversi on zx spectrum < 1618583899 281037 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't beat it < 1618583917 666674 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there were all kinds of games with difficulty levels we couldn't beat < 1618583924 792414 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess, gomoku < 1618584015 248420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Windows 1.02 version has a "Skill" level selector (Beginner/Novice/Expert/Master), but I've no idea which one (if any) I could beat. < 1618584028 984585 :NotApplicable!4055ad82@64.85.173.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618584205 508049 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyDSL_iJx2o < 1618584315 221353 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1618584334 360645 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite logic game on spectrum was... < 1618584509 391480 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618584634 313048 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618584700 803308 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find it ( < 1618584711 636672 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like reversi on hexagonal field < 1618584724 23186 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618584761 214096 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have not to make more pieces of your color but fill more triangle sectors in between the hexagonal field lines < 1618584785 955254 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time you surround a triangle you permanently draw it to your color < 1618585298 749015 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it; the only video unfortunately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7mtrim1u94 < 1618585314 750816 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not show the second player to draw any triangles < 1618585730 267540 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618586026 929836 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618586329 61433 :blueskunk!blueskunk@ctrl-c.club QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.4 < 1618587021 813695 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618587299 743781 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1618588417 29804 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1618588801 611405 :NotApplicable!4055ad82@64.85.173.130 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1618590038 59718 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618590043 829508 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618590055 867272 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618590736 465576 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618592619 461392 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618593148 780709 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-204-217.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618593881 26008 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618594080 933095 :ITPaw!~ITPaw@dynamic-002-247-254-003.2.247.pool.telefonica.de JOIN :#esoteric > 1618594660 765145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82208&oldid=82188 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+22) 10/* Verb sentences */ kipisi argument description update > 1618594691 535799 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82209&oldid=82208 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+6) 10/* Verb sentences */ grammar in kipisi description < 1618595899 495919 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-204-217.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1618596832 561837 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82210&oldid=82183 5* 03Makonede 5* (+82) 10 < 1618597241 997766 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmrfnsgpgjqpkmjn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1618598855 444094 :ITPaw!~ITPaw@dynamic-002-247-254-003.2.247.pool.telefonica.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1618602973 262835 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618603010 670511 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1618603160 262667 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1618607696 903434 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618609886 584826 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618609903 801137 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1618610568 412241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_raffle "Care must be taken with seafood trays given the propensity for the contents to spoil in the heat as the lucky winner continues drinking; often a friendly publican will store the tray in the fridge until the winner is sufficiently refreshed and ready to head home.[citation needed]" < 1618610573 442801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Wikipedia, never change. < 1618613851 326068 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618616165 151315 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618618294 369102 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my ideas of web browser is that extensions can be written in C or in JavaScript; they are not limited to only JavaScript. Another idea is cookie notification in the status line; if the user ignores it then the cookie is set (or not set, if cookies are disabled), but the user can push the keys to customize the cookies it just received. < 1618618311 437734 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Cookies can also be edited later at any time.) < 1618618397 209833 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Firefox, you can push ALT+ENTER in the location bar to open it in a new tab. With the relative location bar feature, this is useful, so this can be retained. And then, SHIFT+ENTER and CTRL+ENTER can be used for other things, such as to edit the request headers (and possibly make a POST request), or to bypass the cache. < 1618618459 619110 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618619042 892132 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618619690 606597 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618619712 971132 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618619859 529358 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1618621600 914901 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Hmmm < 1618621861 590755 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@184.63.25.137 JOIN :#esoteric > 1618627066 613990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82211&oldid=82210 5* 03Makonede 5* (+21) 10 > 1618627074 484219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82212&oldid=82211 5* 03Makonede 5* (+2) 10 < 1618628654 643056 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618628763 983058 :deltaepsilon23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618628891 831197 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618628892 540779 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618628908 550228 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618629129 826162 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618630039 576999 :deltaepsilon23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1618631721 931606 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6af6-251.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618631954 453449 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6af6-251.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1618633605 222795 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1618633745 388369 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1618635559 602934 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1618637531 353769 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program to download a specified version of a program from a fossil repository: http://sprunge.us/IHCjWI < 1618637536 315631 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1618637774 372410 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a mode should be added to verify a PGP signature. < 1618638688 673539 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@184.63.25.137 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618640079 844341 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618640350 899002 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618640543 840968 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1618640932 963413 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618642553 190733 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618643696 462079 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618643863 902392 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618645074 908407 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618645593 425991 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1618645617 396426 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618645948 270166 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618646839 801628 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618646997 694903 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618648984 604307 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1618649663 34777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618654603 13577 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618655526 508839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, MediaWiki 1.35 bundles Extension:VisualEditor now. Wonder if that'd be worth enabling. < 1618656423 764551 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might reduce the number of microedits a bit, and maybe people actually like it? < 1618656493 488324 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm reading between the lines that users can disable it if they hate it < 1618656550 470891 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor#Activating_VisualEditor_by_default ... assuming you don't do the $wgHiddenPrefs[] = 'visualeditor-enable'; thing, and why would you?) < 1618656573 26378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, AIUI you can do it on an opt-in or an opt-out basis. < 1618656822 962811 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't particularly care about the default. opt-out means people will actually try it out, while with opt-in it may not be used at all < 1618656904 404951 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: in the bubble I live in, most people hate the visual editor < 1618656932 448624 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's especially the users who clean up after newbies using the visual editor who hate it < 1618657014 414708 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Ah, do you have an example of such a cleanup? (Not urgent, I'm just wondering what kind if things would get messed up.) < 1618657061 145351 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not doubting you, you're much more of a Mediawiki user than I am. < 1618657088 834858 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, of course, still don't like visual editors, as you may surmise from my old https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=789779 < 1618657123 668010 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect I wouldn't like it either, but I'm happy enough if I have a knob to turn it off. < 1618657197 539300 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's the Word effect when you have visual editors (where people format text with explicit newlines and spaces) < 1618657210 515198 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also use every available markup at least once per page) < 1618657253 515252 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm speculating. Hence the desire to see an example. :) < 1618657262 808235 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128060 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56947 < 1618657279 507684 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( phacebook ) < 1618657404 870692 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618657520 935464 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there's sort of the other side of the spectrum from visual editors, which are these modern programs that take plain text input but try to apply too much magic formatting to it, like the IRC clients that replace :p with a smiley in std::pair. The latest such overeager one I met is https://superuser.com/q/1642304/ < 1618657638 401590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Chat converts ~foo~ to strikethrough formatting even when it's part of an autolinkified URL, which looks kind of funny because we have a somewhat frequently linked class of URLs that end in "XXX~YYY~ZZZ". < 1618657647 925048 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course this isn't a real problem with IRC... where you can just switch to a better client.) < 1618657669 697589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, the link still works when clicked, but of course a plaintext copy-paste just makes it XXXYYYZZZ. < 1618657670 57080 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "better" happens to mean "less smart". < 1618657675 118753 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 'smart' < 1618657729 344694 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Of course those two phabricator reports in conjunction demonstrate why this is a hard problem. < 1618657740 339034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Or ‘smart’? ;) < 1618657750 511211 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Too Unicode < 1618657770 998371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to use “smart” quotes with the word smart, it's a rule. < 1618657776 329449 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Of course you'd never want to change [[2000]] to [[2000|2001]], but also, of course, you never want to change [[Beaver]] to [[Beavers]]. < 1618657797 88643 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I suppose that's fair. > 1618658014 106255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Fizzie14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82213&oldid=67187 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+0) 10Post-upgrade edit test for 1.35.1. < 1618658031 115521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't enable that editor, at least yet, just did the upgrade.) < 1618658072 479991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I got that version wrong, it's 1.35.2. < 1618658246 885849 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: quick! to the time machine! < 1618658282 860646 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: after all, you control the wiki database and 1/3 of the public logs < 1618658316 754562 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: don't let that power go unabused < 1618658416 775752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have always been at war with Eastasia. < 1618658538 881798 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me, I still haven't made any progress on detonating the Sun < 1618658541 179652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to run rebuildFileCache.php (as I do after every upgrade, to pre-populate it), and it got to "Cached page 'Les Accents Français' (id 11695)..." but then choked up by exhausting the available memory and starting to swap. I don't know if it's the page after that (whatever it is), or just something more general like a memory leak. < 1618658580 352424 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1618658890 993268 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618658900 713074 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618660089 574833 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618661189 278049 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bye! < 1618661191 275269 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 QUIT :Quit: gone too far < 1618661499 185123 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618663922 829256 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1618663955 103740 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1618664015 403658 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1618664195 230731 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618664197 592197 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1618664235 707660 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PREG14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82214 5* 03EZ132 5* (+1432) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=PREG |paradigms=imperative |author=[[User:EZ132]] |year=[[:Category:2021|2021]] |memsys=register based |class=:Category:Unknown computational class|..." > 1618664249 787073 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PREG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82215&oldid=82214 5* 03EZ132 5* (-29) 10 > 1618664357 789121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82216&oldid=82168 5* 03EZ132 5* (+11) 10/* P */ < 1618664731 865742 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1618667873 492898 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1618668320 834982 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618668567 237855 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618668590 764621 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618668609 275699 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618668811 639682 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618672138 212137 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618672559 278491 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618672591 173497 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618673711 228686 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618675919 609252 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@184.21.16.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618681381 271525 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like WYSIWYG editing and I disable the VisualEditor anyways. (What might help, though, is a new attribute for