> 1620259281 261615 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Skinny pig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82652&oldid=82651 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+234) 10 > 1620259492 3109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Skinny pig14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82653&oldid=82652 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+98) 10 < 1620259722 589809 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.169.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1620260080 490511 :LKoen!~LKoen@140.170.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1620260925 858483 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620261211 910973 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1620262949 788503 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had recently read some of the NeWS documentation. There are a few good ideas (such as append to concatenate strings/arrays and arrayop which is similar to zipWith in Haskell, if I remember properly what I read about NeWS), although some things can already be done better in standard PostScript (maybe NeWS is too old?), some are probably not needed or done badly, some things are missing, etc. < 1620263013 54476 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know? < 1620263750 591827 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1620263761 997001 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1620264157 532447 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620264449 590793 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1620265968 192322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1620265968 192384 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :*.net *.split < 1620265968 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989173 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/ansible.staff.relrod JOIN :#esoteric > 1620266218 606640 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82654&oldid=82212 5* 03Makonede 5* (-4) 10 < 1620266555 604554 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric > 1620266777 175646 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82655&oldid=82505 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+329) 10 < 1620267414 979336 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1620267449 290706 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82656&oldid=82655 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+402) 10You can put emoticons outside the edit summary like this) :- > 1620267763 75627 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82657&oldid=82656 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+73) 10Have a good day /* ) */- < 1620267853 76485 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1620268776 202059 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82658&oldid=82635 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+214) 10 > 1620269101 91655 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82659&oldid=82658 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+189) 10 > 1620269461 80070 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82660&oldid=82659 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+448) 10 < 1620269489 352276 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620269741 826003 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1620269750 627337 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82661&oldid=82660 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+120) 10 < 1620270261 119571 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xdfnhccwmydbykch QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1620270854 935261 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620271133 936747 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1620274122 601781 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620274399 581098 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1620280945 784643 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1620280985 799654 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:ColorfulGalaxy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82662 5* 03Ais523 5* (+453) 10reply < 1620281210 839325 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1620282199 916679 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620282471 60119 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620282553 718354 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1620282573 637678 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620282619 942757 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1620282684 623609 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620284633 798514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1620284662 623905 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1620285865 755562 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu > 1620287986 868873 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:ColorfulGalaxy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82663&oldid=82662 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+296) 10 > 1620288184 592484 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82664&oldid=82661 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (-102) 10 > 1620288582 965051 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82665&oldid=82664 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+504) 10oNE MORER < 1620288597 712750 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620288733 306806 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1620288735 730440 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1620289144 335275 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82666&oldid=82665 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+508) 10More codes < 1620289424 998609 :LKoen!~LKoen@140.170.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1620289584 22857 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82667&oldid=82666 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+12) 10 > 1620289983 290809 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82668&oldid=82667 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+174) 10 > 1620290330 663868 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82669&oldid=82668 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+499) 10 < 1620290702 818457 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1620290898 297233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Help, WarDoq!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82670&oldid=73598 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+149) 10Please check if I ruined anything. If yes, please fix it. > 1620291158 277746 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82671&oldid=82669 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+286) 10 < 1620291709 632177 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1620292121 531859 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1620292320 28524 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620292459 867781 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620292623 561478 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Client Quit > 1620292793 11331 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82672&oldid=82650 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+2602) 10/* A.R.T.I.C.L.E. */ > 1620292833 418415 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82673&oldid=82671 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+623) 10 < 1620293729 19279 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-voshajhdnknewmjf JOIN :#esoteric < 1620299596 852885 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.169.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620301066 337006 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620301870 933267 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620302105 695276 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-voshajhdnknewmjf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1620303594 896581 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Help, WarDoq!14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82674&oldid=82670 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-28) 10/* Language Overview */ Why is citation needed? > 1620303897 712109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82675&oldid=73519 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+143) 10/* Interpreter */ Quinepreter < 1620304835 828045 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1620305244 611587 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620305551 578301 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1620306302 681194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Forest14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82676&oldid=81803 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-1) 10/* Syntax */ fix typo < 1620306633 46600 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1620306694 185089 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82677&oldid=82111 5* 03Sech1p 5* (+844) 10v1.5.4a < 1620306764 236440 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1620307426 301133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Lisparser14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82678&oldid=79672 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-4) 10/* Commands */ < 1620307587 979433 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620308326 680915 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620308445 118158 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1620308458 645761 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1620308630 863757 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620308827 158466 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620308838 840119 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620309277 998132 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :у / ý / ÿ / ŷ / ƴ / ȳ / ɏ / ỳ / ỹ / ỿ / ẏ / ẙ / ỵ / ỷ < 1620309699 732808 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ɏ < 1620309701 370715 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+024F LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH STROKE] < 1620309730 985209 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: of those, у is used in many languages, ý is Icelandic, ÿ is a very rare letter in French, ŷ and ỳ are rare and probably only exist in Welsh, three more occur in Vietnamese, the rest are ones I probably never expect to see in real life because I don't do linguistics research < 1620309751 93102 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvobihoengxrpmye JOIN :#esoteric < 1620309872 269385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620310008 308610 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, "probably only exist in Welsh" is kind of misleading about Vietnamese letters < 1620310057 498552 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the U+024F is not in my font (still using the default X11 `fixed` font)) < 1620310111 590708 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it might be one of those things used in some phonemic transcriptions by linguists, but not in written language < 1620310205 275783 :big_caballito!~bcbo@184.53.33.54 PART :#esoteric < 1620310239 718127 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it could be one of those that a linguist once used for a new writing system of an obscure african language < 1620310264 438591 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's in the pronunciation symbols block < 1620310325 895872 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the block with ɑəɛɥʃʒ < 1620310367 110554 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want a font for these, there's always `? fonts < 1620310369 72777 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fonts < 1620310370 574881 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ < 1620310466 371846 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point I should update my font with more characters, not these obscure pronunciation symbols really but rather mathematical symbols, better looking greek, and basic support for Cyrillic < 1620310518 724778 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basic support means all letters in the modern Russian, Ukranian, Serbian Cyrillic, Macedonian, Bulgarian alphabets) < 1620310544 129606 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at some point I should finish the tiny (6 px tall) variable pitch font that I started < 1620310559 823513 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620311393 787285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620311466 874049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric > 1620311517 508392 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Help, WarDoq!14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82679&oldid=82674 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1) 10tags fix < 1620311536 551798 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know we have multiple fonts < 1620311574 48365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is very much optimized for the rfk86 port, which is why the only implemented characters are U+0000..00ff, 2190..2193 (4 most basic arrows) and 2500..257f (block drawing). < 1620311638 81715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ÿ might theoretically exist in English but not be present in any words < 1620311751 919076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1620311752 174194 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren's font is pretty advanced, i guess < 1620311757 25443 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: doesn't Asimov have a character named Noÿs in "End of Eternity"? < 1620311764 966904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620311768 174347 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, oren's font is the most complete among these, < 1620311778 918943 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though lifthrasiir's font comes second < 1620311779 220155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, and it's clear how it would be pronounced < 1620311797 400527 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that one ligature really a hth? < 1620311804 353242 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's hillarious < 1620311814 5518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking for hyphenated words with a vowel before the hyphen and y afterwards, "one-year" seems to be the most common < 1620311843 576597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "oneÿear" would be much easier to read/pronounce than "oneyear" would be < 1620311885 829960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… we have some loanwords from Welsh where w is a vowel, so that might theoretically argue for the presence of a ẅ < 1620311902 497518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ẅ < 1620311903 410791 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1E85 LATIN SMALL LETTER W WITH DIAERESIS] < 1620311916 974713 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://blog.asimovreviews.net/2015/11/04/so-how-do-you-pronounce-noys-anyway/ < 1620311961 897337 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I usually put hyphens in compound words that would be hard to read without, even when the hyphen is nonstandard. the most common such case is "szemetes-zsák", normally spelled without a hyphen but I find that ugly < 1620312024 150229 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use diaeresis for such in English (in French it's fine) < 1620312042 253536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use diaresis for it when I think I can get away with it, which is hardly ever < 1620312061 221758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"preëmptive" used to be common in books, but isn't any more (it's usually spelled "pre-emptive" instead nowadays) < 1620312102 170577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, oddly, it isn't in the Google Ngrams data, I think they both got normalised to "preemptive" < 1620312103 882191 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least I don't use diaeresis in new words, and don't us diaeresis in words like cooperate or coordinate where the spelling without diaeresis is common too, < 1620312119 90653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "coöperate" is only seen in #esoteric < 1620312141 265967 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, it is only where I have seen such spelling < 1620312150 464107 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might perhaps use diaeresis in a word that everyone writes with diaeresis, but I don't recall any such word in English (again French is different), < 1620312161 253533 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I learned english, the word "reuse" had me confused for quite some time < 1620312182 900223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Noël" and "Zoë" used to universally have the diaeresis, but even those have been losing it recently < 1620312190 325213 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've never learned the diaresis thing < 1620312218 56416 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'd think they would use that when teaching english as a foreign language, sigh < 1620312220 117930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm mentally pronouncing "reuse" under German pronunciation rules, it's almost unrecognisable < 1620312248 187589 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do sometimes use "æ" and "œ" in English words though: archæology, cornucopœia, pharmacopœia, mediæval < 1620312262 568660 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though maybe they can't do that to germans because of the umlauts < 1620312271 300532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen a discussion of these which argues that "æ" is correct in some words and "ae" in others, depending on pronounciation and etymology < 1620312316 457741 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, I write aether rather than æther, except possibly in the names of M:tG cards, but those M:tG cards have been errataed to use aether too now < 1620312342 750503 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I write mediaeval more often than mediæval < 1620312352 683286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously they should have used more non-ASCII letters to force their databases to work properly < 1620312352 941760 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for archaeology < 1620312364 856991 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1620312370 10277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says that "medieval" is now the most common spelling even in the UK < 1620312381 914128 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oddly I don't think the æ caused a problem in their databases < 1620312394 423772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whereas most æ's became ae in British English and e in American English) < 1620312397 687165 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know medieval is the more common spelling, but I think that looks ugly < 1620312414 326410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I hate the fact that you use 's to pluralize a letter, it goes against everything that people are taught about apostrophes and s's < 1620312440 1227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the books on English spelling/grammar I've read say that this is an explicit special case < 1620312448 522614 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to write plural letters like: "A"s, "B"s, etc < 1620312462 177462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this is the programmer way to do it, I think < 1620312463 359944 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the letters are tricky, the easiest would be to use one of the long form letter names, either the phoenician-derived ones or one of the many telephone alphabets < 1620312485 492867 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could say esses, sierras, or sigmas < 1620312497 417387 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without quotes, "A"s cannot easily be distinguished from "as". < 1620312572 13130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if this means that to form a possessive from a letter, you use two apostrophes < 1620312642 3 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayes, bees (yes, that's ambiguous, see also the relevant PBF strip), cees, dees, effs, gees, aitches or haitches, iyes, jays, kays, ells, emms, enns, pees (yes, pees, don't lauch), queues, arres (it would be "ares" but that already has like three different meanings), esses, tees, yous, vees, dubyous, exes, wyes, and zeds < 1620312692 665179 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alphas, bravos, charlies, deltas, echos, etc < 1620312714 594434 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :assholes, bitches, cunts, dicks... what would e be < 1620312716 473586 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs off < 1620312806 81315 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: eggheads or #esoteric-regulars < 1620312813 965912 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This has been on my mind since I encountered the "r-word" (thanks to Twitch, who recently banned the word "retard")) < 1620312985 684818 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: funnily I have recently re-read the Christine Nöstlinger children's novel "Konrad oder das Kind aus der Konservbüchse", which does have a full alphabetic list of insults < 1620313005 21720 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's enticing < 1620313005 586076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it wouldn't necessarily be an alphabetic list of /gendered/ insults, though < 1620313013 189999 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the titualar character is insulted with them < 1620313014 257585 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if it's a children's novel < 1620313020 420927 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me look it up so I can quote it < 1620313026 854095 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have the book here < 1620313027 950365 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought the 'a' was gender neutral :P < 1620313067 455815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1620313096 982928 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some of the insults might be age-specific too, these are for children because Konrád is 7 years old < 1620313097 496641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a much weaker insult than the others (there are probably instances where it's meant as a neutral description rather than a negative description) < 1620313126 985959 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the first thing to come to my mind for "the a-word". < 1620313264 308335 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it is, in translation by Bor Ambrus: “Alattomos bumburnyák, cickány, dinka, ebihal, findzsafej, gügye, gyagya, holdjáró, idióta, jancsiszeg, kecskebak, lótetű, lyukas kulcs, málészáj, népelnyomó, nyavalyás, orrszarvú, ökör, pipaszárláb, répafej, sajtkukac, szemétláda, töpörtyű, tyúkmellű, ukmukkfukk, üreginyúl, vesekő, zabszem, zsebgyerek.” < 1620313323 653866 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those are dated or not a good match for Konrád or are rather weak in general, but it's an alphabetic list that is in-universe improvised by another child and with the constraint that some taboo words wouldn't be printed in a book back then, so given those contraints it's quite funny < 1620313327 414370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, some of htose appear to be loanwords < 1620313338 460843 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book is from 1985 < 1620313350 205640 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :loanwords? which one? < 1620313361 580254 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, idióta < 1620313378 437770 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is a quite common insult so it does seem appropriate < 1620313382 729934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally speaking, if a word isn't one of the 3-4ish native Hungarian words I know and I recognise it (and it's Hungarian), it must be a loanword :-) < 1620313540 269665 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book has some more choicy but non-alphabetic insults elsewher < 1620313855 545831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1620314141 679017 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620314703 71398 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620314727 199925 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1620315384 852463 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this (or have comments about) this Magic: the Gathering card design? {?} Instant ;; Two target permanents copy each other. Exchange control of those permanents. < 1620315403 566023 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It might not seem like much, but actually, it is a lot.) < 1620315441 787294 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know MtG very well, can you remind me what exactly "copy" does? < 1620315544 508438 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copy changes the copiable values of some object to another object's copiable values; these are only layer 1 effects, and it does not copy anything from other layers, nor counters, attachments, ownership, initial text, etc. < 1620315565 706669 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it copies the base values printed on the card (or values a token were created with) and a very few later modifications (Artificial Evolution effects, other copy effects, effects like morph or transform that change which card face is shown, and Primal Clay effects), but not most other effecrts on the card (like Giant Growth) < 1620315595 651078 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there's no rule support for "copy each other", that would probably need a rules errata, but oh well < 1620315619 437320 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, zzo38's design is good for a situation where my opponent has a card with a lot of counters on it (or other non-copyable things) and I want the counters to be on my card < 1620315648 473328 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Artificial Evolution is a layer 3 effect, not layer 1. < 1620315652 409163 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: or you can use it if you just want to delay stuff by causing summoning sickness < 1620315659 900312 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That is one thing, but it can be used for a lot more things than that. < 1620315746 377711 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry, you're right, Artificial Evolution effects aren't copied either < 1620315789 640988 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like fewer copy effects in general, because the mechanic is not worth the rules complications, and resent how Wizards started to put a copy effect in uncommon < 1620315799 106245 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be on rares only back when I played < 1620315836 197009 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean effects that copy permanents < 1620315853 639645 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :effects that copy spells are also complicated but less problematic < 1620315869 573124 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think what rarity a card should have can depend on the set; even if a card is one that would normally be rare, uncommon might make sense in some set (and vice-versa). < 1620315892 884412 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well sure, there are still permanent copy effects in rare too, it's not only uncommons < 1620315900 456407 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they started to regularly make uncommon Clone cards < 1620316411 889535 :LKoen!~LKoen@140.170.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620316916 912612 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1620317122 268517 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grok14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82680&oldid=81994 5* 03AarMil42 5* (+448) 10 < 1620317788 628378 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also deflect spells, get out of combat, untap something to use it again, get rid of Auras, use it with removing one from the battlefield to reuse it, etc. < 1620318611 310098 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:256f:8501:d907:f377 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620319217 314549 :LKoen!~LKoen@140.170.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620320848 739285 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1620321992 894623 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82681&oldid=82628 5* 03RetroPain 5* (-12) 10 > 1620322304 747139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82682&oldid=82681 5* 03RetroPain 5* (+188) 10 > 1620322399 811076 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82683&oldid=82682 5* 03RetroPain 5* (-64) 10 > 1620322448 555630 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kemuri 5* 10New user account > 1620322463 195665 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82684&oldid=82683 5* 03RetroPain 5* (+61) 10 > 1620322779 599230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82685&oldid=82601 5* 03Kemuri 5* (+192) 10 < 1620322785 645139 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1620322914 281606 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Kemuri14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82686 5* 03Kemuri 5* (+104) 10Created page with "Yeah, hi. 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