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04:04:27 <esowiki> [[Horribly Translated BASIC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82787&oldid=81292 * Gilbert189 * (+19) I've decided to put this into "Ideas" because... well, it's an idea.
04:18:13 <imode> I made $30k on dogecoin tonight.
04:18:27 <imode> nobody to celebrate with.
04:30:56 <esowiki> [[Unfair]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82788&oldid=80516 * Gilbert189 * (+2) silly typo
04:33:07 <kmc> congrats imode
04:59:14 <esowiki> [[Horribly Translated BASIC/Original Text]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82789 * Gilbert189 * (+4735) Created page with "<small>''a''</small> :''Note that this is only an example. The keywords, syntax, and any other should not be exactly like this.'' Horribly Translated BASIC is BASIC but horri..."
05:24:00 <esowiki> [[Rayuela]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82790&oldid=82785 * Dreamvoyager * (+879) /* Full Programs */
05:26:41 <esowiki> [[Rayuela]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82791&oldid=82790 * Dreamvoyager * (+3) /* Reverse Cat */
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07:22:28 <esowiki> [[Talk:Horribly Translated BASIC]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82793&oldid=80603 * Gilbert189 * (-4633) /* Original text */
07:23:27 <esowiki> [[Horribly Translated BASIC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82794&oldid=82787 * Gilbert189 * (+9)
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10:15:02 <esowiki> [[\BV]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82795&oldid=73619 * SunnyMoon * (+10) Just helping out
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17:03:40 <esowiki> [[Monicelli]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82796&oldid=82766 * CristianCantoro * (+2212) +hello world example and refs
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21:44:39 <zzo38> I had idea of a new kind of copyright license, which does not add any further restrictions than if copyright laws and patent laws are abolished, and allows conversion to GNU GPL, GNU AGPL, and possibly some other licenses. Other kinds of restrictions are still possible, such as you are not allowed to add further restrictions. What do you think of such things like that?
21:45:10 <zzo38> Also it must still be approved by FSF and OSI, and probably also Debian.
21:50:02 <kmc> sounds similar to a public domain declaration or CC0
21:51:37 <kmc> although CC0 explicitly does not abandon patent or trademark rights
21:52:44 <kmc> I'm not sure you *can* abandon patent rights in an irrevocable way
21:53:11 <kmc> you can sign a contract with another party which gives them the right to use your patented inventions free of charge
21:53:32 <kmc> but i'm not sure that you can legally commit to never enforce patent rights against /anyone/
21:53:48 <b_jonas> zzo38: the licences I'd like to see are (1) one that's like the X11 license but that explicitly says that it gives you permissions forever and everywhere; and one that's like that but only applies starting from a time set in the future, i.e. the data is not free software, but it is guaranteed to be two years from now
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23:02:17 <zzo38> Is similar to public domain/CC0 but if it is public domain I think usually they can apply their own copyright to modified versions, so what I mention is a bit different
23:09:24 <kmc> it's hard to reconcile "no restrictions on derivative works" with "derivative works may not impose restrictions", which is a restriction on derivative works
23:10:09 <kmc> if you require that derivative works be shared under the same rules then it's a copyleft license, not a permissive one
23:10:29 <kmc> but that's very different from "no restrictions beyond what you'd have if copyright laws are abolished"
23:10:52 <kmc> copyleft is an application of copyright law
23:11:45 <kmc> if we abolished copyright law then it would be legal to share binaries of modified GPL programs without sharing the source, although anyone who did get the source somehow would be free to share it (ignoring possibly other things like trade secret law)
23:21:05 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Vortetty * New user account
23:28:09 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82797&oldid=82779 * Vortetty * (+100)
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23:35:04 <zzo38> Yes, I know those things.
23:37:46 <zzo38> I would hope that if the software is modified that source code is distributed too, although I do not believe that laws should enforce this or other restrictions.
23:52:53 <zzo38> (Including the possibility to relicense by GNU GPL is mainly for practicality, although it also means that if copyright laws are not abolished that someone who modifies the code can require others who modify it to share the source too when sharing the binaries. So, you still have that if you want it.)