< 1621297471 613476 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621297748 568719 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1621300020 275124 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83002&oldid=82562 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+243) 10/* Computational class */ Updated the underload-to-wdigpcras program to be shorter, and added a wdigpcras-to-underload program < 1621301585 972171 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621301874 962060 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1621302825 475449 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07FlipJump14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83003&oldid=82920 5* 03Tomhe 5* (+369) 10/* The Assembly Language */ - add segment+reserve syntax < 1621304843 870290 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621305101 796485 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1621305224 605055 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1621307604 781029 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621307734 340401 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sydhbolmzgdlxhuf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1621307846 671735 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1621308907 952898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite > 1621310260 997704 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Clockwise14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83004 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+733) 10Created page with "==Cat Program== How is the cat program supposed to work? I don't think it's possible to create one in this language because it is impossible to enter a loop and output the sam..." < 1621310874 863968 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1621311071 811262 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Bangyen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83005&oldid=83000 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-10) 10/* Implementations */ > 1621311119 433307 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bit~14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83006&oldid=76535 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-4) 10/* Implementations */ < 1621311126 656660 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1621311328 931857 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07EXCON14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83007&oldid=76277 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-61) 10/* Interpreter */ > 1621311348 307835 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BF-PDA14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83008&oldid=76306 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-1) 10/* External resources */ > 1621311374 161574 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Suffolk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83009&oldid=82964 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-1) 10/* Implementations */ > 1621311411 658758 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07RAM014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83010&oldid=76006 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-1) 10/* Implementations */ > 1621311436 889524 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BFStack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83011&oldid=75996 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-1) 10/* Implementations */ > 1621314091 932905 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03HellishBro 5* 10New user account < 1621314119 931275 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1621314382 739770 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83012&oldid=82983 5* 03HellishBro 5* (+215) 10/* Introductions */ < 1621314419 852733 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1621315433 164376 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think that it can be suitable to check argv[0] to activate/disactivate "portable mode" (not installing files in home directory or otherwise common locations), if there is also some other method for overriding this decision? < 1621315528 903441 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1621315807 689043 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what the C standard has to say about argv[0] but iirc it isn't a full path, right? < 1621315860 960732 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it isn't normally a full path, anyways. < 1621315930 205600 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :on unix it can be anything < 1621315954 272545 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :execve(2) takes the path of the executable and the whole argv including argv[0] separately < 1621315990 615650 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact you can exec with argc == 0 and therefore no argv[0] < 1621316001 712381 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :a great many programs will segfault if you do that < 1621316015 703081 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if it's allowed by C or POSIX standards, but you can do it in practice < 1621316062 738137 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Linux you can get the actual exec'd path from /proc/self/exe < 1621316084 726605 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there may be cases where it no longer exists, or never existed in the path namespace of the resulting executable < 1621316092 187961 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/executable/process/ < 1621316121 155798 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I think argv[0] is usually whatever is typed in; so, if it is in the PATH then usually the path is not typed in. < 1621316357 90173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual executable file name is also available in AT_EXECFN < 1621316374 483339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess (char *) getauxval(AT_EXECFN) < 1621316747 786795 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no man page for "getauxval" on my computer < 1621316804 974456 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have it < 1621316814 976455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you running Linux? < 1621316827 147271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of using getauxval, you can get the aux values directly from the stack at process startup. < 1621316849 380521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes argc, argv, envv, auxv < 1621316854 76554 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a look at busybox < 1621316861 975808 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a ton of aliases that all call the same program < 1621316875 958165 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the alias becomes arg[0] < 1621317027 610701 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, other programs do that too (not only busybox). But, it isn't quite what I meant. Rather, what I meant is that if other options do not override it, it check if argv[0] has a slash; if so, then use portable mode; otherwise, look for configuration files in the home directory. I can also add a command-line switch to disable portable mode and a special environment variable to force portable mode with a specific directory. < 1621317063 396813 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash exec lets you specify argv[0] explicitly (via -a) < 1621317072 875951 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash -c 'exec -a foo ls -?' < 1621317075 665229 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes ls think it's named foo < 1621317101 797461 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that can be useful sometimes in case the program cares about argv[0] < 1621317109 550093 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure if there's a way to exec with no argv[0] without writing a custom C program < 1621317227 225179 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently on Amiga clicking on the program will set argc=0; argv is filled in if you type in the name of the program < 1621317323 937781 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1621320489 32306 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621321059 639414 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1621321088 813689 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1621321634 885538 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1621325200 758156 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1621325397 758960 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1621326038 853063 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00c5d4c5917c5d748f.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1621326208 608516 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621331971 172183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :argc == 0 is allowed by the C standard, though arguably (no pun intended) it would be "more correct" to set argc == 1 and make argv[0] the empty string if the implementation knows about program names, but the program name just doesn't happen to be available: https://0x0.st/-jdX.txt < 1621331979 650635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C11 5.1.2.2.1p2) < 1621332205 446381 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1621332283 889192 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621332669 415120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once got this message from Donald Knuth: < 1621332681 979286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A few minutes ago I spoke with Ken Thompson. He confirms that he and his colleagues never wanted argc to be 0; and he agrees with me that the authors of C89 should not have allowed that case to be legal. He is pretty sure that Plan 9, in particular, always ensured that argc>=1, by supplying a default environment if necessary." < 1621332775 605930 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621332900 162537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Appeal to authority. ;) < 1621332910 16210 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he messaged you? < 1621333136 540860 :spruit11!~unknown@86-82-44-193.fixed.kpn.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1621333145 650999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX rationale has a bit about how it originally required >= 1, but since ISO C said 0 is okay, they now only say it "should" be one (but a "should" is a binding requirement for a strictly conforming POSIX application). < 1621333158 605052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Early proposals required that the value of argc passed to main() be "one or greater". This was driven by the same requirement in drafts of the ISO C standard. In fact, historical implementations have passed a value of zero when no arguments are supplied to the caller of the exec functions. This requirement was removed from the ISO C standard and subsequently removed from this volume of POSIX.1-2017 as < 1621333160 474168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:41: error: :1:41: error: parse error on input ‘of’ < 1621333164 607022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. The wording, in particular the use of the word should, requires a Strictly Conforming POSIX Application to pass at least one argument to the exec function, thus guaranteeing that argc be one or greater when invoked by such an application. In fact, this is good practice, since many existing applications reference argv[0] without first checking the value of argc. < 1621333171 773854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: Sorry, that wasn't for you, I forgot. < 1621333220 560535 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any implementation that can cause a negative argc, I wonder < 1621333279 505573 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...pass 3 billion arguments to a program... < 1621333379 162200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would find it amusing if an implementation had a corner case where argc is negative, but it would still take care to ensure that argv[argc] is a null pointer. < 1621333393 708017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In any case, it wouldn't be a conforming C implementation.) < 1621333489 972301 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you ever find a good gui library < 1621333788 760623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: For what context? I think probably not. < 1621334983 286248 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvdxvxychnvjhyrb JOIN :#esoteric < 1621338666 37057 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1621342173 358709 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1621342246 727462 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1621342258 429900 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1621343328 278999 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1621343345 337810 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1621343631 184204 :kelly8080!~Thunderbi@185.13.202.227 JOIN :#esoteric < 1621344203 327915 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621344252 132408 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot JOIN :#esoteric < 1621344694 868894 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:fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, no Eurovision commentary going on? < 1621366131 121760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the semifinals don't count maybe. < 1621366141 577644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway's in this one, I think. < 1621366169 243165 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what do those pulsing rings in Recursed do? < 1621366212 634894 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : What, no Eurovision commentary going on? => didn’t even know it’s happening < 1621366226 770071 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've lost interest after that woman with a beard < 1621366238 422192 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it was < 1621366307 840021 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I almost never ever watched it more than a couple minutes for a time, which seems strange in some way < 1621366383 958638 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :first levels of Recursed seem pretty neato-easy but I believe when I start with progressing the ice palace DLC then it will be hard < 1621366418 65755 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: yes it starts out very easy < 1621366443 129241 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and after that beard woman there was a scandal that after nazi revolution in Ukraine in 2014 some people heard in "lasha tumbai" the "Russia goodbye" in Serdyuchka's song not even understanding that Serdyuchka hates nazis < 1621366461 355337 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's now looking rather about scandals than music I guess < 1621366548 847476 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you know what those rings do? If you take it and then drop it, it starts pulsing until you return from some other chest, it seems to indicate something but I think I haven’t read about that in a book at the start < 1621366581 861170 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: throw them and they'll play a message < 1621366613 825480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbbb,Recursed starts out too slow, definitely < 1621366634 783115 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: oh you said it's pulsing... if you don't have sound, turn on subtitles in the menu < 1621366637 240419 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: some say it was for a long time about some behind-the-scene shenanigans, though I don’t care either way. At least hopefully some people have fun from all that < 1621366661 385068 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: aaah thank you! < 1621366716 765418 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about subtitles (I turned them on in minecraft even when I play with earphones on just for fun of it) but for some reason didn’t ended up enabling them < 1621366808 833345 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :the slow start makes me believe my not-puzzle-gaming friend will get a confidence about her skills though < 1621367086 119536 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( the early Eurovision sequence: ABBACCCABBADDDDABBA… ) < 1621367088 406791 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1621367099 862296 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1621367318 63207 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-165-68-56.range86-165.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1621367336 830880 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-165-68-56.range86-165.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1621367589 393946 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-165-68-56.range86-165.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1621367604 853634 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-165-68-56.range86-165.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1621368382 83578 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-165-68-56.range86-165.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1621369212 591797 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric > 1621369467 220306 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Eek!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83022 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+2641) 10Created page with "'''Eek!''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] that only uses the characters "E", "e", and "k". == Commands == {| class="wikitable" |- ! 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Outcome |- | E || Move..." < 1621369498 320308 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I kind of disagree... yes the initial levels are easy, but the test I'd apply is whether the game repeats itself early on (in the extreme making a dozen levels all based around the same idea)... and I don't think it does. > 1621369502 892113 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Zero player rodent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83023&oldid=82620 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+12) 10 < 1621369538 199682 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the rings did a lot for me to stave off boredom < 1621369784 912972 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.179 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1621372005 428356 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nya~14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83024 5* 03Sech1p 5* (+2127) 10Initial :eyes: < 1621373017 457066 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1621374472 884093 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621374736 821369 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621374762 916087 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621374991 958881 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00e9242d9eac3f1601.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1621375046 829335 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit the harder ones but didn’t reach cauldrons and jars yet < 1621375051 860918 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621375153 274710 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dungeon, or ruins? < 1621375296 550865 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sets are: 1st woodland, introduces chests, keys, blocks, and doors; 2nd, sewers, introduces water; 3rd, dungeon, introduces green things; 4th, ruins, introduces red water) > 1621375482 496557 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03AdamJ 5* 10New user account < 1621375587 695615 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1621375599 431197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83025&oldid=83012 5* 03AdamJ 5* (+123) 10/* Introductions */ < 1621377817 597802 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1621378003 899886 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621378271 880086 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621380410 596893 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621380688 579551 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds