> 1621900826 108517 PRIVMSG #esoteric : And one more time, because the most recent multi-network refactoring broke the Prometheus metrics due to a lack of labels. < 1621900841 31548 :esowiki!~esowiki@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/esowiki JOIN :#esoteric < 1621901032 307520 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621901338 121254 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds > 1621901773 760793 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Jdonszelmann 5* 10New user account > 1621902012 645128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83343&oldid=83330 5* 03Jdonszelmann 5* (+246) 10/* Introductions */ < 1621902947 229408 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621903126 564668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie TOPIC #esoteric :Welcome to the multinational league for esoteric programming proliferation, protection, and protestation! | https://esolangs.org | logs: https://logs.esolangs.org/ http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D https://github.com/kspalaiologos/esologs/ < 1621903140 920449 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1621903166 215652 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1621903304 484838 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Whopper14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83344&oldid=83235 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+13) 10/* Commands */ Lt get < 1621903432 143847 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1621903633 498129 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-146-112-4.natnow.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1621903847 771564 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621904111 780040 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621904712 415836 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621904712 544796 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621904712 629701 :ArthurSt1ong!~ArthurStr@46-133-85-8.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621905319 412213 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1621905319 547104 :ArthurSt1ong!~ArthurStr@46-133-85-8.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1621905319 547139 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1621909951 628416 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621910002 885297 :joast!~rick@cpe-98-146-112-4.natnow.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1621910206 797733 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1621910467 770512 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621910761 776351 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621911227 770531 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621911496 779855 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621912786 405142 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1621912885 903354 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621912891 582795 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1621913122 940968 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1621913213 792918 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1621914025 217517 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621914288 146121 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1621914916 189989 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621915186 80625 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1621916326 649369 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1621916493 896539 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1621918393 882333 PRIVMSG #esoteric : wow, freenode #esoteric is smaller than this channel right now > 1621918399 741778 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (56 vs. 58) > 1621918446 846452 PRIVMSG #esoteric : advertisement:Advertisement starts: have you heard about this hip and froopy 'net place called #esoteric? It is on freenode. Brought to you by The Board of Timeskewed Advertiesements. \ e:e is a freenode admin. e is not known to be an Agora player. \ freenode:The Realm of Freenode is our homeland. The Chännel dwells in it since... Uhm... Quite a few years ago? > 1621919318 905827 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `? libera > 1621919320 333407 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Libera is the land of the future. Maybe. > 1621919373 944720 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `slwd libnera//s/[^ ]*$/Probably./ > 1621919374 804780 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Roswbud! > 1621919379 550481 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `slwd libera//s/[^ ]*$/Probably./ > 1621919383 728459 PRIVMSG #esoteric : libera//Libera is the land of the future. Probably. < 1621919941 900182 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1621920389 159061 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't (yet) know what should be the syntax for meta-CSS. > 1621920955 463952 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83345&oldid=83327 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (+0) 10/* MATH variable input order explanation */ > 1621920970 386640 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83346&oldid=83345 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (-8) 10/* Commands */ < 1621921439 227169 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621921735 238314 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1621921943 804460 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83347&oldid=83346 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (-47) 10/* Quirks */ > 1621922317 882517 PRIVMSG #esoteric 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QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1621922771 888989 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :sprock > 1621922776 121560 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83353&oldid=83352 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (-22) 10/* MATH variable input order explanation */ < 1621923337 517590 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1621923603 725404 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` for k in Church Turing turning pi circle esoteric monad group future logic ; do ? $k|cut -f1,2,$((${#k}*3/2)) -d' ' ;done > 1621923626 216530 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Church invented Turing \ Turing is Tur. \ Turning is because \ pi is a \ A circle \ This channel esoterica, \ Monads are category \ Groups are property \ We know \ Logic is true < 1621924664 657569 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1621924869 678511 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1621924906 678883 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1621925069 322119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Cythan14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83354 5* 03Ais523 5* (+677) 10I don't think this is TC < 1621925104 346356 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1621925211 563793 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02DotSnap10]]": Author request: blanked by author < 1621925374 335865 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1621925468 913158 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83355&oldid=83353 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (+93) 10/* Quirks */ > 1621925479 389912 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83356&oldid=83355 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (+9) 10/* Quirks */ > 1621925535 237402 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 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:Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1621930210 185012 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-igxzyvzntsriyqsg JOIN :#esoteric < 1621930483 792529 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1621930491 821748 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Clockwise14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83388&oldid=83004 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+4) 10/* Cat Program */ < 1621930560 204469 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-igxzyvzntsriyqsg QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1621930580 816839 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jxirtllqaejvorik QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1621930770 897156 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdywjrmelrzpszem JOIN :#esoteric > 1621930792 926630 PRIVMSG #esoteric : now \rasel is v1, `rasel will remain v0 < 1621930813 153589 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tvbgkoilnxnhjupg JOIN :#esoteric > 1621931095 800508 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:3x14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83389 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+691) 10Created page with "== Multiplication == I'm pretty sure the multiplication program is incorrect. Below is the corrected version:
 ??#333x#v333x^#3#v3333x3x3333x3x3^x(3#v3333x3x3333x3x3^x#33..."
> 1621931169 388987 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there any recommended list of infobox proglang items?
> 1621931236 280731 PRIVMSG #esoteric : or how to see its internals, I see that it replaces "year" with "Appeared at", etc., so there is its code somewhere that I would like to look at
> 1621931239 119414 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[073x14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83390&oldid=81228 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+102) 10
> 1621931245 698169 PRIVMSG #esoteric : have no clue in infoboxes
> 1621931259 678713 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[073x14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83391&oldid=83390 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-2) 10
> 1621931308 917058 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ok found it https://esolangs.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_proglang
> 1621931359 767200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[073x14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83392&oldid=83391 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+46) 10
> 1621931474 288699 PRIVMSG #esoteric : would be nice to also have a field "last version year"
> 1621932411 794292 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83393&oldid=83387 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (-10) 10/* Extended commands */
> 1621932449 421561 PRIVMSG #esoteric : btw, the Libera channel can be announced in /r/esolangs
< 1621932496 719135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PART :#esoteric
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> 1621933177 527572 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83395&oldid=83393 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (-40) 10/* Extended commands */
> 1621933426 15110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07RASEL14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83396&oldid=83394 5* 03Nakilon 5* (+0) 10/* Instructions */ typo
> 1621933515 150986 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83397&oldid=83395 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (+429) 10/* GLOBALW / GLOBALR */
> 1621933710 983303 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83398&oldid=83397 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (+196) 10/* CALL */
> 1621933791 807941 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83399&oldid=83398 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (+0) 10/* CALL */
> 1621933810 382050 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07While(true)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83400&oldid=83399 5* 03Aonodensetsu 5* (+120) 10/* Quirks */
> 1621934335 27801 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Re "last version year", while it would be nice to *have* one, and I'm not arguing against one, it feels like one of those things that would get easily stale. Also a little ambiguous for something with multiple implementations.
> 1621934355 475048 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Though it's probably true that most languages stop getting developed the same year the articles about them get written, and don't have more than one (or zero) implementations, so it'd still be mostly correct.
> 1621934405 910580 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ambiguous for something with multiple implementations" -- ttrue
> 1621934450 474095 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but let it be a year of specification, not implementation
> 1621934786 648771 PRIVMSG #esoteric : interesting stats https://projecteuler.net/languages
> 1621934851 700697 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there are 4 guys who classified themselves as befungers https://projecteuler.net/language=Befunge though it's not necessary they mostly used it to solve 
> 1621934881 896456 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I get redirected to the /about page from those links. (Maybe it needs sign-in.)
> 1621934974 499199 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Looking at ~/src/attic/euler, looks like I never did any of them in Befunge, I just did the first 100 in Python and forgot about it.)
> 1621935161 686523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ewww
> 1621935196 606946 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://i.imgur.com/RoMACey.png
> 1621935232 965597 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I should get back into solving them in Agda
> 1621935249 441377 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sadly that's not a listed language category... I wonder if there's a way to request it?
> 1621935318 776505 PRIVMSG #esoteric : my projecteuler folder is empty _OO
> 1621935797 594765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh I guess they had some database problem few years ago; and probably this is why they say on Problem 1: "Completed a long, long time ago." and the whole list looks like this: https://dpaste.org/ReMy/slim
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> 1621946121 859605 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so since RASEL does not allow program space modification unlike Befunge it becomes possible to estimate all the program flows
> 1621946175 846287 PRIVMSG #esoteric : only "j" with no leading static value means the unpredictable branching
> 1621946254 430210 PRIVMSG #esoteric : still even with this branching it's possible to know all the possible paths through the program space and makes some things possible -- I imagine the automatic one-lining
> 1621946434 775685 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh and "\" is unpredictable now too (
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> 1621946465 502503 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (forget the last line)
> 1621946496 832894 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[074BOD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83401&oldid=83385 5* 03Oshaboy 5* (-68) 10I forgot I did cls(0110)
> 1621947106 142361 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh yeash
> 1621947114 805395 PRIVMSG #esoteric : how did that bot work?
> 1621947117 723859 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \help
> 1621947117 853173 PRIVMSG #esoteric : available commands: rasel; usage help: \help 
> 1621947122 207459 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \echo ldjk
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> 1621947451 605131 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there should be a term "language encoding" that would mean all those brainfucks that are just using another alphabet and sometimes a word instead of a char
> 1621947488 451317 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the language encoding isn't much a language
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> 1621947708 144518 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 3
> 1621947730 536888 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 4.
> 1621947798 90495 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel "!dlroW ,olleH">:?@,Gj
> 1621947802 286667 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "Hello, World!", exit code: 0
> 1621947810 843428 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm
> 1621947873 174353 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel A.
> 1621947893 477681 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: how is this supposed to work?
> 1621947961 856674 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z0Z--,
> 1621947983 389042 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel ZZ0--,
> 1621947987 468392 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel -ZZ--,
> 1621947999 102179 PRIVMSG #esoteric : does it only interpret hello world executables?
> 1621948027 676615 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 4.4.4.4.4.4.
> 1621948074 656989 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 5.0\@
> 1621948076 497523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 5.0@
> 1621948095 956404 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yeah you missed the @ most of the times
> 1621948137 420461 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ok, so why doesn't \rasel 5.0@ work?
> 1621948147 82669 PRIVMSG #esoteric : since the timeout is 60s you basically just DDOSed it to the 16:06:34  thread error: # )
> 1621948172 468145 PRIVMSG #esoteric : thet empty program is an infinite loop in rasel? 
> 1621948193 481876 PRIVMSG #esoteric : because I set the limit to 1 concurrent execution, the later are coming into several minutes long queue and I guess you've killed that queue length too lol
> 1621948207 110217 PRIVMSG #esoteric : On the wiki, we do make the distinction between https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Brainfuck_derivatives and https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Brainfuck_equivalents where the latter is close to your "language encoding".
> 1621948217 324456 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the empty program might not match the bot regex and so won't be executed
> 1621948217 492373 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "This category is for languages which are straightforward alternate syntaxes/encodings for brainfuck, with or without its I/O facilites. Languages which have semantics that differ from brainfuck's, even in small ways, do not belong in this category."
> 1621948236 991782 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (There's probably some gray area there, though.)
> 1621948242 594353 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 5.@
> 1621948245 801844 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "5 ", exit code: 0
> 1621948253 244434 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ah good
> 1621948259 738617 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z0Z--,
> 1621948267 843118 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z0Z--,0@
> 1621948287 31199 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie oh I see
> 1621948316 797384 PRIVMSG #esoteric : damn I guess the queue size in 1 actually
> 1621948333 218806 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'll increase it a bit
> 1621948352 904677 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but why doesn't the interpreter just terminate or error out when the program counter runs out the boundary?
> 1621948450 124140 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://i.imgur.com/N4BRfja.png I guess this should allow 4 infinite programs per 30 sec
> 1621948473 959914 PRIVMSG #esoteric : takes up to 2 minutes to update
> 1621948484 449048 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: also how do you give a multiline program to this bot?
> 1621948538 465042 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
> 1621948559 243744 PRIVMSG #esoteric : four infinite loops per 30 seconds, that's so fast!
> 1621948561 627830 PRIVMSG #esoteric : b_jonas it's currently PRIVMSGing these error to me before I'm sure nothing will expose if I set it to tell errors right to the channel
> 1621948589 47797 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lol
> 1621948610 660063 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z0Z--,0@
> 1621948611 790515 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "F", exit code: 0
> 1621948617 110658 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes
> 1621948621 686658 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ok, so
> 1621948624 134997 PRIVMSG #esoteric : no multiline for now -- that's why I'm thinking about making the automatic one-lining translator
> 1621948626 736057 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `echo \rasel Z0Z--,0@
> 1621948628 243430 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ​\rasel Z0Z--,0@
> 1621948643 593511 PRIVMSG #esoteric : > text "\\rasel Z0Z--,0@"
> 1621948644 959197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  \rasel Z0Z--,0@
> 1621948656 628260 PRIVMSG #esoteric : leading space I guess
> 1621948676 980486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes, but I had to try
> 1621948713 688906 PRIVMSG #esoteric : theoretically I could make the multiline in the similar way I made the stind
> 1621948716 505101 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *stdin
> 1621948782 13999 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \help rasel
> 1621948782 183060 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel ; \rasel -stdin ; timelimit=60s; https://esolangs.org/wiki/RASEL
> 1621948794 765130 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: @echo hi
> 1621948806 829255 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lambdabot: @echo ho
> 1621948806 882281 PRIVMSG #esoteric : echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "libera", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["#esolangs",":
> 1621948806 958925 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lambdabot: @echo ho"]} target:#esolangs rest:"ho"
> 1621948873 437079 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \reload remote
> 1621948874 607291 PRIVMSG #esoteric : remote execution commands loaded: ["rasel"]
> 1621948877 241005 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \help rasel
> 1621948880 423204 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel ; \rasel -stdin ; don't forget the '@' instruction or it will timeout; timelimit=30s; https://esolangs.org/wiki/RASEL
> 1621948906 663169 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel :Z0Y--,0@
> 1621948907 787875 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "E", exit code: 0
> 1621948929 399235 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel: Y0Y--,0@
> 1621948959 532168 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yeah, this probably won't cause a botloop
> 1621948978 278214 PRIVMSG #esoteric : velik \rasel Y0Y--,0@
> 1621948983 657417 PRIVMSG #esoteric : velik: \rasel X0Y--,0@
> 1621948989 554538 PRIVMSG #esoteric : velik, \rasel X0X--,0@
> 1621949007 266563 PRIVMSG #esoteric :   when /\A\\(\S+) (.+)/
> 1621949007 402792 PRIVMSG #esoteric :     cmd, input = $1, $2
> 1621949036 472615 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh yeah, I know what I should test
> 1621949043 204280 PRIVMSG #esoteric : escaping the output
> 1621949052 237972 PRIVMSG #esoteric : give me a moment
> 1621949084 304907 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I added 500 chars limit today but didn't test it though
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> 1621949326 893748 PRIVMSG #esoteric : also the Ruby's String#inspect is sanitizing funny char values enough to be nicely printed in terminal so I assume it would be enough sanitizing for IRC too
> 1621949341 534237 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 0"~dlrow ,olleh"       :,"~"-0D-1\?j  0@
> 1621949388 875500 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 0"~dlrow ,olleh"       :,"}"-0D-1\?j  0@
> 1621949392 42546 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "hello, world~", exit code: 0
> 1621949447 398048 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 0"~egassem motsuc"       :,"}"-0D-1\?j  0@
> 1621949451 525391 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "custom message~", exit code: 0
> 1621949467 993599 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `olist 1235
> 1621949468 910879 PRIVMSG #esoteric : olist https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1235.html: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
> 1621949504 746917 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 0"~enil rehtona: sgnalose# GSMVIRP"A"enil eno"       :,"}"-0D-1\?j  0@
> 1621949505 871129 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "one line\nPRIVMSG #esolangs :another line~", exit code: 0
> 1621949513 808936 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 0"~enil rehtona: sgnalose# GSMVIRP"D"enil eno"       :,"}"-0D-1\?j  0@
> 1621949514 933213 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "one line\rPRIVMSG #esolangs :another line~", exit code: 0
> 1621949521 444610 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 0"~enil rehtona: sgnalose# GSMVIRP"0"enil eno"       :,"}"-0D-1\?j  0@
> 1621949523 569480 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "one line\x00PRIVMSG #esolangs :another line~", exit code: 0
> 1621949534 984302 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm
> 1621949597 310034 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W1W//.":",3.  0@
> 1621949598 433305 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "1024 :3 ", exit code: 0
> 1621949605 836930 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W1W//,  0@
> 1621949606 959997 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "", exit code: 255
> 1621949617 815762 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel 01-,  0@
> 1621949618 913377 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "", exit code: 255
> 1621949754 60081 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel G1A//01--, G1C//02--, "r", 0@
> 1621949755 185712 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "\xA1\xC2r", exit code: 0
> 1621949770 435211 PRIVMSG #esoteric : actually there is really no protection against \x00 in my IRC bot library
> 1621949808 120864 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's harder to abuse on IRC than lf and cr
> 1621949943 905702 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but oh, I see, the String#inspect made that "one line\x00PRIVMSG" escape
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> 1621950017 222929 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's not in IRC bot but in the Function: https://github.com/Nakilon/rasel/blob/5125650327d950e145c664dcdb2043192e30932a/examples/google_cloud_function/app.rb#L10
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> 1621951754 751792 PRIVMSG #esoteric : this is awful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma
> 1621951863 335942 PRIVMSG #esoteric : what's the point to use "and" and "or" then if there is already a comma there, just a cluttering
> 1621952082 579426 PRIVMSG #esoteric : github's  style is funny https://github.com/github/explore/blob/main/docs/styleguide.md -- "Avoid using "users" in favor of developers" -- there are no users now, only developers ..D
> 1621952593 557398 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh yeah, you said something about size
> 1621952719 258613 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z     1-:.8?j$0E-j    0@
> 1621952770 195371 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z. 0@
> 1621952772 321527 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "35 ", exit code: 0
> 1621952803 817008 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z     1-:.81\?j$0C-j    0@
> 1621952804 968021 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "34 0 ", exit code: 0
> 1621952845 288299 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z     1-::.81\?j$0C-j    0@
> 1621952846 401239 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "34 34 0 ", exit code: 0
> 1621952863 566080 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z     1-::.81\?j$0E-j    0@
> 1621952864 690535 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "34 -34 ", exit code: 0
> 1621952891 832021 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z     1-::.81\?j$0F-j    0@
> 1621952892 936377 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 ", exit code: 0
> 1621952896 50481 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that, yes
> 1621952908 127719 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel Z14//     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952909 311830 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 1
> 1621952915 251151 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W18//     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952916 291179 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *flood*
> 1621952922 785465 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W16//     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952923 901657 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *flood*
> 1621952932 857052 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W15//     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952934 993515 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *flood*
> 1621952938 184577 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W14//     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952940 412548 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 ", exit code: 0
> 1621952949 793748 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W14//0G--     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952950 911508 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *flood*
> 1621952956 814925 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W14//0D--     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952957 938740 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 
> 1621952962 892809 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W14//0E--     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952964 11018 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *flood*
> 1621952976 248400 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel "groot".W14//0D--     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952977 361136 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *flood*
> 1621952983 37161 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel W14//0D--     1-::.81\?j$0H-j    0@
> 1621952984 221320 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 
> 1621952991 819848 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so this is the maximum that we can output
> 1621953031 908159 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://github.com/Nakilon/nakiircbot/blob/32633794d50407ed981d15b7ec1f4a8b2d2923fa/lib/nakiircbot.rb#L51
> 1621953042 448980 PRIVMSG #esoteric : not easy to abuse, but luckily we have other bots on the channel that are easier to abuse and also have a more convenient (though still somewhat esoteric) interface
> 1621953062 671530 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the above velik's message is 437 chars long, and the rest 63 are gone for IRC protocol I guess
> 1621953086 634986 PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe I should limit the function to 400 chars output to not miss the end
> 1621953104 614072 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I mean... you'll miss it anyway  but at least you'll see the exit code
> 1621953277 377310 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "luckily we have bots to abuse" (c) b_jonas
> 1621954573 249644 PRIVMSG #esoteric : who is CismonX?
> 1621954710 699806 PRIVMSG #esoteric : wtf "Unless you're using a free third-party client which invokes GitHub's API, using some major features of GitHub requires nonfree JavaScript, which makes it unsuitable for free software hosting."
> 1621954744 311550 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess he owns https://github.com/esolangs but abandoned the Github for the above "reason"
> 1621956183 15330 PRIVMSG #esoteric : The overhead isn't always terribly easy to calculate, because it depends on things like your hostname as seen by others (cloaked), and sometimes even whether they have that identify-msg capability on.
> 1621956235 709447 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Actually, how does the standard 512-byte payload-plus-crlf length limit work with IRCv3 message tags? Are they just exempt from the limit or what?)
> 1621956255 205610 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, I guess: "The size limit for message tags is 8191 bytes, including the leading '@' (0x40) and trailing space ' ' (0x20) characters. The size limit for the rest of the message remains unchanged at 512 bytes."
> 1621956367 702936 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (With half allocated for the client to use and the other half for server-added tags, so that your message doesn't go over the limit no matter what the server adds to it.)
> 1621956394 846878 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wish the IRC message limit was more consistent and less historically limited 
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> 1621956419 293686 PRIVMSG #esoteric : But increasing it would probably break many clients
> 1621956532 740924 PRIVMSG #esoteric : twitch v3 tags were huge
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> 1621956614 979944 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < @badge-info=subscriber/4;badges=subscriber/3,bits/1000;color=;display-name=volker027;emotes=;flags=;id=b0830d66-7cd5-4f03-b330-cd565a0710c9;mod=0;room-id=96726033;subscriber=1;tmi-sent-ts=1621460923658;turbo=0;user-id=478416199;user-type= :volker027!volker027@volker027.tmi.twitch.tv PRIVMSG #twigglesoft :Hi Twiggle and Chat 😀
> 1621956640 638137 PRIVMSG #esoteric : didn't try to enable them here yet
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> 1621956767 908387 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you are a free software purist you can't even use github because the server isn't free
> 1621956803 144205 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nor most of the Internet
> 1621956812 298946 PRIVMSG #esoteric : free software purism is very silly :I
> 1621956892 891185 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I failed to understand what does the "nonfree Javascript" mean
> 1621956910 321071 PRIVMSG #esoteric : “It’s not GPL as such bad”
> 1621956946 915448 PRIVMSG #esoteric : People like that tend to treat not-GPL as blasphemy
> 1621956953 73883 PRIVMSG #esoteric : V8 is BSD, ye, such a difference...
> 1621956973 827780 PRIVMSG #esoteric : like if someone makes him pay for Chrome
> 1621957028 948144 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the context of games it’s even worse, as often times there what people /really/ mean by free is “I can build myself a copy so I don’t have to pay shit.”
> 1621957085 447497 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nonfree javascript is js that you aren't allowed to copy and modify among other things
> 1621957111 981137 PRIVMSG #esoteric : sure, you _can_ copy every script that is run in your browser, but you can also copy every program that is run on your cpu
> 1621957126 912662 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I doubt he ever needed to copy or modify it
> 1621957162 38213 PRIVMSG #esoteric : especially to use a Github
> 1621957169 884736 PRIVMSG #esoteric : sure, most people don't need to modify the linux kernel
> 1621957179 747083 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that does not mean people don't like it being free
> 1621957209 236306 PRIVMSG #esoteric : people care about wrong things
> 1621957223 896722 PRIVMSG #esoteric : they do, but freedom is not one of them
> 1621957269 948997 PRIVMSG #esoteric : All software is free software if you're willing enough to break the law
> 1621957291 668746 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (for legal reasons I do not encourage breaking the law)
> 1621957307 759528 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I use Windows without paying and without breaking the law ..\
> 1621957349 621012 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: different definition of "free" I think
> 1621957351 720543 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (I mean, until I cracked it)
> 1621957397 25054 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you are free to use it for personal entertainment, and it was free to download from microsoft.com but those links are dying for some reason
> 1621957401 832457 PRIVMSG #esoteric : no need to crack windows, you can just deactivate the license check with standard tools
> 1621957442 552236 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the "you are not activated" in the corner is exactly what annoys
> 1621957465 977508 PRIVMSG #esoteric : people laugh at your screenshots
> 1621957470 210947 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm not sure if this stays, i haven't touched a private windows in years
> 1621957490 417590 PRIVMSG #esoteric : imagine making screenshots of your desktop to share
> 1621957547 70180 PRIVMSG #esoteric : don't everybody on linux do that?
> 1621957557 729763 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I saw even websites where they have galleries of them
> 1621957573 227855 PRIVMSG #esoteric : a screenshot of my system would just be whatever applications are open
> 1621957574 511400 PRIVMSG #esoteric : like a part of their forum
> 1621957579 24140 PRIVMSG #esoteric : or like a green void
> 1621957611 567515 PRIVMSG #esoteric : do you have a waifu as a background of your terminal?
> 1621957619 702690 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *don't you
> 1621957636 136928 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://opensource.com/sites/default/files/uploads/advent-herbsluftwm.png actual screenshot of what my system looks like
> 1621957676 146779 PRIVMSG #esoteric : damn I should fork ubuntu to make that "your system is inactivated" in the corner
> 1621957690 412636 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there is Russian meme "Bolgen OS"
> 1621957772 650647 PRIVMSG #esoteric : sometimes on TV journalists love to make news about "genious kids from deep of Siberia" and one was a local prodigy who even "made his own OS that his school is now trying to adopt"
> 1621957800 117586 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and it was Bolgen OS -- an Ubuntu with his custom boot screen logo
> 1621957848 694946 PRIVMSG #esoteric : we had something similar, some people claimed making a revolutionary new os that runs windows as well as linux applications
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> 1621957860 456735 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it was basically some mainstream linux distri with wine
> 1621957869 615810 PRIVMSG #esoteric : windows 12!
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> 1621958121 357007 PRIVMSG #esoteric : maik mixdorf was the dude
> 1621958126 428953 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "uniOS"
> 1621958246 306187 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ow
> 1621958249 729144 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Windows Sandbox seems to be unactivated. It's kind o annoying
> 1621958290 987612 PRIVMSG #esoteric : they claimed to write 52 million LOCs with a team of 3 programmers :D
> 1621958298 728520 PRIVMSG #esoteric : in 3 years
> 1621958386 222775 PRIVMSG #esoteric : myname: lots of copy paste, or lots of IDE code generation I wonder
> 1621958404 635544 PRIVMSG #esoteric : > 52000000/9
> 1621958406 888027 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  5777777.777777778
> 1621958414 499939 PRIVMSG #esoteric : > 52000000/9/365
> 1621958416 463695 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  15829.528158295283
> 1621958428 610754 PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's almost 16k lines per person per day
> 1621958634 920461 PRIVMSG #esoteric : our pythonist made a 1.2 mln lines long commit
> 1621958647 437102 PRIVMSG #esoteric : an hour before deploy
> 1621958662 984663 PRIVMSG #esoteric : in prod
> 1621958711 311366 PRIVMSG #esoteric : people can have a talent of commiting a lot
> 1621958780 705760 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and github is full of the /vendor directories and probably even /node-modules or how it's called
> 1621958784 173896 PRIVMSG #esoteric : love hyperboloid model even more: when you find the intersection of two distinct hyperbolic lines, their corresponding planes always intersect in a line. If it’s timelike, that means an usual intersection point; if null, that means an ideal point (the lines converge) and if spacelike, the lines diverge; and we can try to say they intersect in an imaginary point (like some imaginary conics stuff sometimes used when solving euclidean conic problems)
> 1621959123 905774 PRIVMSG #esoteric : trying to decide should I write a simple SVG rendering of simple hyperbolic geometry things (like to illustrate various kinds of isometries there) and what computational model to use in that case. Hyperboloid coordinates are too stretched out when going far away from the origin, OTOH Poincaré disk is ailed by converse, and these two models seem best in computational ease?..
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> 1621959263 959937 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm maybe floating point is good with hyperboloid model. How much precision is lost when doing arccosh(cosh(θ)) and arcsinh(sinh(θ)) asymptotically?..
> 1621959309 544561 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you might wanna check if Mathematica already can do that
> 1621959336 634512 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I mean making is simpler to render that stuff
> 1621959344 494728 PRIVMSG #esoteric : *it
> 1621959402 683403 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ah, I used its graphics functions many times, yeah. Though I want to move on to freer software :)
> 1621959419 358726 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I generated many cool things with it, though
> 1621959501 967722 PRIVMSG #esoteric : like this one https://i.postimg.cc/hcMqY6Xz/mandala3.png
> 1621960425 647767 PRIVMSG #esoteric : about arcsinh(sinh(θ)): when θ is large, it’s just ~ log(exp(θ)) so there’s some amout of precision, though it fluctuates a bit: mantissas of exp(θ) near 1.0 are worse than those near 2.0
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> 1621962910 950598 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lol "zzo38 is the only esolanger who has an entry in Urban Dictionary."
> 1621963024 581623 PRIVMSG #esoteric : arseniiv https://www.reddit.com/r/generative/
> 1621963320 549731 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03JaydenIrwin 5*  10New user account
> 1621963492 933495 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: oh much thanks!! I value procedural art things though I almost don’t do them myself at all, but still. Hopefully there are many useful ideas to use
> 1621963537 157970 PRIVMSG #esoteric : arseniiv it's my dream to earn for life by selling drawing made by coding
> 1621963569 675292 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nice dream!
> 1621963625 366171 PRIVMSG #esoteric : one time I used an untrained neural network with a subtle drift of weights to generate sound
> 1621963730 169032 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03RubyPiec 5*  10New user account
> 1621963732 238591 PRIVMSG #esoteric : as expected it didn’t work quite well but still had made interesting sounds sometimes: https://freesound.org/people/arseniiv/packs/22686/ (warning: sometimes very harsh noise)
> 1621963802 665172 PRIVMSG #esoteric : what might be interesting is that despite the high sampling rate, it sometimes generated pretty low frequency tones
> 1621963905 604980 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so that should have been due to very long prominent cycles between “neurons”. And it I made initial networks more interesting rather than just uniformly random, then we might hear something magical…
> 1621963924 164630 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that was generated in Mathematica too
> 1621963927 50556 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83402&oldid=83343 5* 03RubyPiec 5* (+258) 10introduction :o
> 1621964011 915475 PRIVMSG #esoteric : also I should warn they say Freesound’s streaming quality is lower than what you’d get by first downloading and then listening in your favorite player
> 1621964095 235468 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that’s not obvious at all from just listening online without an offline downloaded reference, but it seems to be true
> 1621964130 675726 PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: On that note, the way ignore lists and filter expressions are persisted is, I manually list them out in a query before restarting the bot and write them up in a config file. ;)
> 1621964153 80898 PRIVMSG #esoteric : So if you change something and it reverts, it was probably me forgetting to do that.
> 1621964167 902786 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Not that the lists have changed so far.)
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> 1621964388 803080 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83403&oldid=83402 5* 03JaydenIrwin 5* (+192) 10/* Introductions */
> 1621964649 958613 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, I recognize only 18 people/bots both here and there (but I'm matching by nick except esolangs=esowiki) put differently, there are 47 unique users here, 37 unique users there
> 1621964676 16951 PRIVMSG #esoteric : > 47+37+18
> 1621964677 499230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  102
> 1621964692 176662 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that seems about right, actually
> 1621964696 291401 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83404&oldid=83274 5* 03JaydenIrwin 5* (+14) 10/* S */
> 1621964731 652606 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SF Code14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83405 5* 03JaydenIrwin 5* (+19) 10Created page with "This is a new lang."
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> 1621964934 552647 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SF Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83406&oldid=83405 5* 03JaydenIrwin 5* (+189) 10Started page
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> 1621965118 380237 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think this might be the only parallel-universe channel I'm on that has a majority here.
> 1621965147 789080 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Though I parted two that moved officially.
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> 1621965239 405582 PRIVMSG #esoteric : #haskell is at 443 vs. 673, ##math at 244 bs. 702, that's the two biggest channels I'm in
> 1621965282 44926 PRIVMSG #esoteric : #haskell has semi-officially moved, but is probably being held back by the lack of matrix bridge
> 1621965329 138937 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (which is being worked on)
> 1621965383 76782 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ##math is so far from FOSS that I'm actually pleasantly surprised by those numbers
> 1621965504 715055 PRIVMSG #esoteric : what's even more telling in the case of #haskell is that the latest discussion was about how to register a nick when libera requires SASL
> 1621965527 998173 PRIVMSG #esoteric : #go-nuts is 282 vs. 492 (with an in-review CL to change the website, but I don't know if that's going to go through) and #c/##c is 344 vs. 855, I think those are my biggest ones.
> 1621965551 796357 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SF Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83407&oldid=83406 5* 03JaydenIrwin 5* (+863) 10added symbol table
> 1621965821 913477 PRIVMSG #esoteric : also consider editing the IRC channel here if anyone cares https://github.com/angrykoala/awesome-esolangs
> 1621965828 971583 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ##math is so far from FOSS that I'm actually pleasantly surprised by those numbers => maybe the majority of its participants are other FOSS channel regulars? Erm it took me so long to remember “regular” and find it in a dictionary…
> 1621965868 680937 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so they hopped in a natural manner, not because of just ##math only
> 1621965982 69632 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "might be the only parallel-universe channel I'm on that has a majority here." -- yeah, 328 / 76 for #ruby
> 1621965997 342969 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think the bridge is doing it
> 1621966055 940943 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03JaydenIrwin 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:SF Code on Mac.png10]]"
> 1621966126 617163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think fungot did it.
> 1621966126 999147 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: the texts parliament has voted for the fnord should be facilitated in claiming discretionary concessions available to pensioners from the state in the recitals, as parliament had already issued a global pronouncement on that second phase in november 1996 and 24 february 1997, the top priority of the intergovernmental conference.
> 1621966139 957342 PRIVMSG #esoteric : this channel is like a maternity hospital
> 1621966143 305330 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also I think we've had enough of politics for a while.
> 1621966146 239231 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^style nethack
> 1621966146 277374 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal)
> 1621966148 108964 PRIVMSG #esoteric : seeing new languages being born lol
> 1621966449 780699 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SF Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83409&oldid=83407 5* 03JaydenIrwin 5* (+611) 10description
> 1621966504 851311 PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe #math users rarely have BNCs
> 1621966522 715213 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so mostly they consist of "alive" people
> 1621966604 265500 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think you could CTCP VERSION spam everyone to check ..D
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> 1621966646 53827 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yeah, well, don't
> 1621966683 867100 PRIVMSG #esoteric : also I imagine there's quite a few BNC-type people there who joined to ask one question and just stayed even though they never looked at the channel again
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> 1621966701 165558 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you know, people who are on 100+ channels anyway
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> 1621967331 730335 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `relcome zzo38 
> 1621967333 494534 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ​07zzo38: 08Welcome 09to 02the 06international 13hub 04for 07esoteric 08programming 09language 02design 06and 13deployment! 04For 07more 08information, 09check 02out 06our 13wiki: 04. 07(For 08the 09other 02kind 06of 13esoterica, 04try 07#esoteric 08on 09EFnet 02or 06DALnet.)
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> 1621967605 471412 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Daniel Temkin was writing to me with interview questions. But, so far they only sent to me one set of questions and some clarifications which I have responded to both; they haven't sent to me the second set of questions yet.
> 1621967683 346900 PRIVMSG #esoteric : This was the esoteric.codes person? (I'm bad with names.)
> 1621967880 189909 PRIVMSG #esoteric : rottytooth
> 1621967884 616599 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes
> 1621967939 652081 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yes.
> 1621967988 86905 PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38 I have an interview question for you
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> 1621968005 849278 PRIVMSG #esoteric : what is the game named Aksana? it sounds almost like Russian name
> 1621968195 905975 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://mathoverflow.net/questions/393688/generate-all-possible-theories-compatible-with-axioms/393713#393713
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> 1621969228 341803 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck Assembly Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83410&oldid=82690 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+243) 10No more No-ops
> 1621969335 859426 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: It is a ZZT game
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> 1621970222 703866 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cool, it's playable in browser
> 1621970335 380064 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yes, and there are many other ZZT games too
> 1621970399 464346 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Including, XYZABCDE.ZZT. (It says that ZZT is not Free software; that was true at the time the game was written; I didn't know that a year later ZZT would become Free software. Now ZZT is Free software.)
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> 1621971476 853218 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://libera.chat/news/one-week-of-libera-chat "We have managed to finalise registrations of 250+ projects, and we’re getting more and more all the time. Our backlog is as large as our finished registrations!"
> 1621971529 780515 PRIVMSG #esoteric : For the record, our ticket number is in the 500-600 range, so I'm thinking it might be a while. Even if they're not all real.
> 1621971580 832481 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Not that I think lack of official recognition is exactly blocking anything.)
> 1621971592 634676 PRIVMSG #esoteric : on which day did you apply #esolangs request?
> 1621971605 218722 PRIVMSG #esoteric : The 22nd.
> 1621971628 888416 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Last Saturday.)
> 1621971641 76882 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so it was like 60% of the current age?
> 1621971705 276279 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: yeah, if there's a dispute about who the channel name belongs to that staff has to handle (unlikely for #esolangs), they can just review the registration request ahead of the queue for that
> 1621971750 648693 PRIVMSG #esoteric : something doesn't sum up
> 1621971790 350191 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if their "backlog is half done" and they've processed 250+, then it's only 600 tickets there
> 1621971813 144557 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if ours is 500-600 then it's like no one requests anymore but I very much doubt
> 1621971826 422199 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think I heard something (fourth-hand information at this point) about spam to the project registration address, which might have generated extra ticket numbers that they don't actually count in their queue.
> 1621971922 339267 PRIVMSG #esoteric : what does the "project registration" mean anyway? the channel is registered
> 1621971942 635603 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is it about the control over #esolangs-*?
> 1621972035 775073 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In practical terms, not much. It'd allow us to claim #esolangs-* channels, yes, but I don't think we're planning to.
> 1621972059 124423 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Unless I migrate #esoteric-minecraft that has just had myself and Sgeo joining and parting for the last N years.
> 1621972137 578597 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh, they gave me #ruby-ru 6 minutes ago ..D
> 1621972347 804248 PRIVMSG #esoteric : would it be possible to program in minecrafting using items?
> 1621972645 159916 PRIVMSG #esoteric : There's definitely esolangs-y aspects to minecrafting, but the #esoteric-minecraft channel wasn't about that, we just had a social Minecraft server for hanging-out and building nonsense.
> 1621972738 808380 PRIVMSG #esoteric : IIRC there is a Minecraft mod that operates docker
> 1621972983 184548 PRIVMSG #esoteric : According to some screenshots I found, the version of the game at the time was Minecraft Alpha v1.2.2.
> 1621973123 913678 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the first version I played was able to spawn nether portal by F4
> 1621973144 8460 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I remember my first death ..D
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> 1621973186 483547 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ooh, I found one of those generated map pictures too. https://gamma.zem.fi/~fis/civilization.png
> 1621973672 292738 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ah, I remember #esoteric-minecraft
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> 1621974443 366960 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I crushed my metaphorical teeth trying to SU(1, 1) ≅ SO(1, 2) (Poincaré ≅ hyperboloid). I should have searched for the exact expression of this iso but I was lazy and hopeful
> 1621974931 122280 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  would it be possible to program in minecrafting using items? => with droppers and various item filters (I don’t remember how are they made but IIRC they use hoppers and comparators) and various water elevators and water / blue ice conveyors and chutes you can move items in diverse ways. Also pressure plates of different properties detect different amounts of items; and you can duplicate (using something farmable) and destroy them
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> 1621975096 323192 PRIVMSG #esoteric : using dispensers with a bucket inside, you can switch water on and off, and you can send these buckets around, though conditional on whether a hopper can steal a bucket from inside a dispenser (I think it can?)
> 1621975137 949469 PRIVMSG #esoteric : though shuttling many items around is poor for FPS and also they can start to despawn
> 1621975187 846869 PRIVMSG #esoteric : anyway there are lots more ways to transport items there, like sliding down honey or something
> 1621975366 777970 PRIVMSG #esoteric : this reminded me the last line of this article https://esolangs.org/wiki/Anarchysm
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> 1621975467 765946 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://esolangs.org/wiki/File:Minecraft_Pistons_Hello_World.png
> 1621975636 762098 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there was something like that (people running “program requests”) somewhere at reddit or in IRC
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> 1621975863 94496 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think that, should be added into C, the command for adding on to an existing macro. There are some other things that would be helpful too
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> 1621979911 923718 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DynCoder 5*  10New user account
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> 1621980653 65030 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DynCoder14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83412 5* 03DynCoder 5* (+29) 10Created page with "Person who created [[goatoo]]"
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> 1621981122 777611 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Unsquare14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83415 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+485) 10Created page with "== [[Hello, world!]] == I'm pretty sure the correct program is as follows: 
 OA++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Po IA++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++P..."
> 1621981236 407423 PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: there's a standard solution for that: define h(x) = if p(x) the f(x) else g(x), where p(x) is a pseudo-random predicate
> 1621981261 720068 PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: then any collision of h(x) is a collision between f and g with 50% probability
> 1621981413 517349 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think I've seen a name attached to it.
> 1621981437 202545 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wish I could remember :P
> 1621981477 846300 PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: maybe ##crypto knows
> 1621981608 829576 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83416&oldid=83404 5* 03Fpstefan 5* (+16) 10
> 1621981736 41886 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder what a NetHack TCG would be like
> 1621981866 694697 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ACTION eats pizza
> 1621981960 215659 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungot: What would a NetHack TCG be like? 
> 1621981960 346712 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: they say that you can defeat a killer bee is like eating a wraith is a force for good. the markings, teeth, creating a tremendous vice-like bite... piranhas are attracted to any disturbance in the dungeon, these swarming monsters are created evil, thieves, and sake.
> 1621981974 45095 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think it would contain at least those elements.
> 1621982268 177187 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there should be a game where enemies are named after esoteric languages
> 1621982279 375163 PRIVMSG #esoteric : sometimes ugly as hell
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> 1621982348 866024 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Unsquare14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83417&oldid=83415 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+138) 10/* Hello, world! */
> 1621982396 810179 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the Brainfuck monster according to its name would aim in the head attacking with psy waves
> 1621982515 266755 PRIVMSG #esoteric : to defeat them you should write code in them
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> 1621982790 901435 PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: well, that went well.
> 1621982794 973260 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I like a rule that you need not use the officially printed cards; you can use your own that contain the same text, if the mass, size, etc matches the official ones. If you are not using card sleeves, the back must also match.
> 1621982820 145938 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cards?
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> 1621983675 266764 PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: So, of course it's attributed van Oorschot and Wiener, the same people who came up with the distinguished points parallel search, and even the same paper.
> 1621983803 555870 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Goatoo14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83420 5* 03DynCoder 5* (+3439) 10Created page with "{{infobox proglang |name=Goatoo |paradigms=imperative |author=[[User:DynCoder]] |refimpl=[https://github.com/Joshua260403/goatoo GitHub] |year=[[:Category:2021|2021]] |memsys=..."
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> 1621985050 312646 PRIVMSG #esoteric : woah
> 1621985061 49685 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel  1621985064 276903 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: " 1621985075 95397 PRIVMSG #esoteric : my first quine ever!
> 1621985114 590892 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wow nice quine!
> 1621985132 69968 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel  1621985133 239126 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "<3@Y#\\3\x00\"", exit code: 3
> 1621985324 365852 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07RASEL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83422&oldid=83396 5* 03Nakilon 5* (+20) 10Quine
> 1621985445 613706 PRIVMSG #esoteric : somehow it's twice shorter than Befunge quines
> 1621985636 430420 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not the Funge-98 quines though.
> 1621985656 500842 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  <@,+1!',ka"
> 1621985662 492925 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (With the leading space.)
> 1621985772 520835 PRIVMSG #esoteric : rosetta code has shorter Befunge than on Esolangs http://www.rosettacode.org/wiki/Quine#Befunge
> 1621985848 313973 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Odd that we don't have that one, it's the kinda-obvious one.
> 1621985889 333086 PRIVMSG #esoteric : probably "reading source is cheating" mentality
> 1621985918 213217 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nah, the one we do reads the source.
> 1621985927 789507 PRIVMSG #esoteric : huh
> 1621985941 631218 PRIVMSG #esoteric : It just does a bounce-around loop instead of the wraparound loop.
> 1621985989 22093 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I imagine that could be replaced by the Rosetta Code one, at least as far as quine aesthetics go.
> 1621986066 469353 PRIVMSG #esoteric : The stringmode quines get a little long in Befunge-93 because there's no coalescing of spaces, so you end up with having to trim them manually, and it gets slightly verbose to do on one line.
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> 1621986144 673474 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Here's a Befunge-98 version with no leading space: <@,+1!',ka$"
> 1621986214 666371 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm, so funge-98 does not go around in the loop
> 1621986233 56008 PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe I could do that too with negative jump
> 1621986236 164799 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` echo "<@,+1!',ka$\"" > /tmp/q.b98; /hackenv/interps/cfunge/cfunge /tmp/q.b98
> 1621986237 189785 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ​<@,+1!',ka$"
> 1621986273 149329 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Annoying to escape something that contains both a ' and a " in bash.
> 1621986288 36325 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Is there something like Perl's arbitrary-delimiter thing?)
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> 1621986390 914083 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't get it why the space or $ in your example
> 1621986399 265848 PRIVMSG #esoteric : what is it for
> 1621986427 813647 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In stringmode, the infinite empty space around the program gets coalesced into a single ' ' character.
> 1621986438 588401 PRIVMSG #esoteric : So the $ drops it; or the version with the leading space just contains it in the program.
> 1621986443 983652 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh
> 1621986499 652491 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also applies to any intervening spaces. To quote from the spec: "In Funge-98 stringmode, spaces are treated "SGML-style"; that is, when any contiguous series of spaces is processed, it only takes one tick and pushes one space onto the stack."
> 1621986501 237014 PRIVMSG #esoteric : RASEL cuts it
> 1621986536 612439 PRIVMSG #esoteric : For wrapping in Funge-98, conceptually you just apply the above rule to the infinite amount of spaces your string would otherwise have.
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> 1621986689 324924 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83428&oldid=83424 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+164) 10/* Cat Program */ Reply
> 1621986878 221104 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ok, negative jumps sucks but I made it in one instead of two
> 1621986880 357057 PRIVMSG #esoteric : \rasel <@,Yj#?\15:,"
> 1621986882 529800 PRIVMSG #esoteric : output: "<@,Yj#?\\15:,\"", exit code: 5