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> 1621459031 205391 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Esolanger14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83091 5* 03Esolanger 5* (+945) 10Created page with "I made an Esolang called "ShortJV" ShortJV means short Java And Java, yeah there is no way in hell I am going to code a line as big as the earth. class Project > fn m..."
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< 1621460415 986695 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something that neither Freenode nor Libera it seems to do, is other channel types, and server-side public logs
< 1621460490 886881 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" so it's now looking rather about scandals than music I guess" => wait, was it (Eurovision) ever about music? must have been before my time.
< 1621460628 957363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't when it's been about music, but I feel it's been more about spectacle (and grumbling about unfair voting patterns) than scandals in the past.
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< 1621460656 861630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, I watch it now because it's become a habit.
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< 1621461330 851811 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so what "private data" on freenode are these scaremongers talking about? the one with the three active public logs?
< 1621461400 787853 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mostly the email address that you probably didn't need yet when you registered 15 years ago
< 1621461422 355196 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? ambrus@math.bme.hu ? that's pretty public too
< 1621461428 647397 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it might be a plus-prefixed one
< 1621461433 807927 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect it'll be a death by a thousand needles thing.
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< 1621461458 972152 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we actually know if any of those supposed resignation letters are from freenode ops, or are they just random links people throw around?
< 1621461477 645933 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm suspicious of any new thing that people say will replace freenode, when it's a new thing every year
< 1621461485 36387 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it's matrix, sometimes discord, sometimes telegram
< 1621461492 915757 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*apparently* a previous IRC network that Andrew Lee got involved in started to snoop on private messages; I'm not clear on whether there was a causal link (it was suggested, but not stated)
< 1621461496 487752 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they stop and start saying the same thing for eight years, then I'll consider changing
< 1621461518 38441 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, who is one of the Freenode staff members who just resigned recently, can probably confirm
< 1621461533 805441 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one thing that really gets me is that Freenode's old staff basically abandoned ship.
< 1621461562 403540 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if we want to leave, why would it be some new thing that someone sets up recently, rather than oftc which has been running strong and with a similar enough culture to freenode (except I think the two arguments to NICKSERV IDENTIFY are swapped so be careful with that, but maybe that's another network)?
< 1621461568 112822 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That tells me that the shit is hitting the fan and convinced me to at least be prepared to switch over at a moment's notice.
< 1621461586 287010 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, but do we actually have proof for that, like any freenode staff confirming that those letter are from them?
< 1621461592 706917 :FireFly!znc@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1621461599 414463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The resignation letters on people's private domains are presumably at least believable.
< 1621461609 88370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you assume those were hijacked too.
< 1621461628 687882 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the staffer's private domains were
< 1621461635 440526 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though some of them seem to be away, let me check
< 1621461639 768565 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: someone was linking to one of them in a k-line message
< 1621461647 506835 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is hard to do if you aren't freenode staff
< 1621461655 293451 :FireFly!znc@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I know at least Fuchs moved his out of /privat, updated it to include more info, and has vouched for it
< 1621461686 441257 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've also had them verified as such from ariadne (a former freenode staffer, tho she had resigned _prior_ to all this), and i trust her as a source
< 1621461687 157500 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: thanks, that's better
< 1621461706 861474 :FireFly!znc@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can /who freenode/staff/* to see which staff-cloaked users share a channel with you
< 1621461713 333053 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for a bridge, that might be a good idea
< 1621461778 730058 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, I can see #freenode , it's suspiciously empty of staffers. I might wait a few more days to see what happens
< 1621461791 637571 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its topic is scary too
< 1621461793 787191 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wow... that... is short compared to the same thing on libera
< 1621461821 481142 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm on #libera there and on #freenode here which should help to get a more or less complete list)
< 1621461830 966079 :FireFly!znc@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye, that should be pretty complete
< 1621461941 983404 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, those kill messages are not quite inspiring me to trust those staffers to follow to their designated replacement
< 1621462017 438525 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I say if we want to leave here, we go to Oftc. they have seniority, I know their network for almost a decade
< 1621462040 999114 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not some fancy newly set up passionate replacement that may or may not live up to its hype
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< 1621462417 889570 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly is the connection between oftc and freenode? tomaw is involved in both...
< 1621462634 496296 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think they split over some difference in the prehistory, before I ever joined IRC
< 1621462652 272706 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was in the long past, now they seemed to be just peacefully coexisting
< 1621462673 514665 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe they still hate each other and I just don't care about the politics
< 1621462680 182018 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the heck knows
< 1621462769 813376 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie or ais, I'm b_jonas on oftc too, if you want the registered channels with the obvious names, ask me
< 1621462788 135126 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what oftc is
< 1621462806 665146 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case it seems that most of the migration from Freenode is heading towards Libera. It does have the right people to live on, too, I think. The last thing I want atm is add *two* new irc servers to my client.
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< 1621462835 143456 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: it's an IRC network with policies similar to Freenode, presumably until you get deep into the lore where they have some irreconcilable differences about whether the liturgy language that they no longer use is greek or latin
< 1621462837 939191 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one for #esoteric, one for #haskell, and keep freenode for some random channels that probably won't care)
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< 1621462856 150997 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc server hostname is irc.oftc.net , homepage is https://www.oftc.net/
< 1621462885 998262 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no, that's the loud hype right now, we won't know where the actual migration goes for months
< 1621462924 614487 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will join there too for now because I don't care about being joined to many irc servers at least for a while, then we'll see what sticks
< 1621462962 785440 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not convinced we should let the loudest scaremongering people decide what the replacement is
< 1621463027 748048 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though on the other hand, I guess I should let fizzie decide
< 1621463036 350475 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for the case of #esoteric
< 1621463135 940367 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, fizzie
< 1621463149 781390 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if I private message HackEso on freenode, does it reply on libera?
< 1621463159 405807 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that, like, deliberate?
< 1621463178 310134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I probably screwed something up.
< 1621463189 725899 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, spooky action at a distance
< 1621463198 144373 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a way to authenticate the two to each other
< 1621463206 958599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're two entirely separate instances, but I guess neglected something about multibot's weird Unix domain socket communication thing.
< 1621463215 63193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably need to change a parameter somewhere.
< 1621463219 196052 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1621463243 118713 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1621463244 288828 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two entirely separate instances? you *forked* HackEso? or do you mean their underlying hackenv disk is still the same?
< 1621463250 268254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, same repository.
< 1621463256 167905 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hpPoH39u6o_L
< 1621463256 450388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just two separate instances of multibot.
< 1621463261 33361 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that's better
< 1621463268 897670 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it'll reply in #esoteric of course
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< 1621463283 895926 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we won't see it in ##esoteric
< 1621463374 906960 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we sort of have a bridge
< 1621463382 646107 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in one direction
< 1621463389 889968 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a garbage chute
< 1621463399 707413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the Unix domain socket name of multibot is hardcoded to be /tmp/multibot., and obviously they've got the same nick.
< 1621463408 632797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I just need to recompile with a patch.
< 1621463419 929498 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chroot to the rescue ;)
< 1621463473 440121 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or renick it to HackEvo or HackEto or whatever
< 1621463490 968848 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEsO, maybe it's case sensitive
< 1621463547 978925 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders the look of "hACKeSO"
< 1621463595 7351 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We will stay on #Freenode
< 1621463614 217672 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, we'll fork the channel, that's more confusing
< 1621463629 355474 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this official or is it what you think will happen
< 1621463632 192868 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1621463651 650016 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well what ever happens ill move there too
< 1621463661 460204 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just dont think we should grt into others drama
< 1621463664 577565 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest75150: well right now we have two instances of HackEsos, so it's sort of official
< 1621463679 697097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's honestly really just because I wanted to play around.
< 1621463681 15213 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more like one HackEso connected to two networks
< 1621463719 738815 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well ok, but you know we'll follow our bots and ops, right?
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< 1621463733 123298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping
< 1621463734 86901 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1621463745 20106 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so HackEso and fungot sort of determine where the real channle is
< 1621463745 129338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're distinct personalities now.
< 1621463745 485297 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mr president, in response to the excellent speech by the president of the commission on his behalf. the importance of the euratom treaty is to be considered. regarding the structure and, especially, children for removing organs, is a great pity if the council, for i was the rapporteur and say that europe's agricultural objective should be.
< 1621463765 268166 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo LF0Z4vBEEp4_
< 1621463766 710769 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :LF0Z4vBEEp4_
< 1621463774 766206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fair enough, but I wouldn't want to enforce anything.
< 1621463790 940731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did start a thread (if two messages count as one) on the Wiki, FWIW: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal#Freenode_and_the_future
< 1621463792 920803 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, you can't *enforce* anything
< 1621463832 860631 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I'll reply there too
< 1621463845 207925 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think more IRC folks watch the IRC logs than the wiki
< 1621463886 37462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's plausible. But I think the official official status is whatever [[Esolang:Community portal]] says. :)
< 1621463927 792544 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00507da683e519d440.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”
< 1621463929 502439 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what will happen to the logs
< 1621463940 605256 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we need some sort of decycling protocol for the bridges
< 1621464067 27472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we didn't already use colors in the logs, we could do a HomeStuck ~ATH reference and just merge the logs on the same page, with one network in 4RED and the other in 12BLUE.
< 1621464131 529028 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not reading Homestuck so I don't get that reference, but merged logs might make sense
< 1621464137 815225 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or we just log either and there'll be a bridge
< 1621464219 855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a very good reference. We've got a page about it on the wiki, too: https://esolangs.org/wiki/~ATH
< 1621464236 191430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just had a red/blue universe bifurcation thing going on, as that last example program shows.
< 1621464286 200321 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :attention! hang up!
> 1621464317 656999 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Super Mario 6414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83092 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+3754) 10Create sm64
< 1621464329 923005 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? modem
< 1621464331 783502 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :modem? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1621464333 608978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be more like +++ATH0.
> 1621464390 529224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Super Mario 6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83093&oldid=83092 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+25) 10add languages category
< 1621464394 92811 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a time when that caused people to disconnect from IRC
< 1621464406 504683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_command_set#Hayes'_solution claims patens are the reason why some modems would hang up on that even when there's no pause after the +'s.
< 1621464426 282144 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah, because of some stupid antivirus that decided that was an attack trying to hack your system and so disconnected you
< 1621464429 239516 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that
< 1621464437 6751 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :got freenode staff very angry when people started to abuse it
< 1621464461 637748 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I think it was *routers*, not antivirus
> 1621464468 754371 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83094&oldid=83050 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+21) 10/* S */ +Super Mario 64, also (realphabetize, space < P)
< 1621464469 818892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure +++ATH0 used to literally disconnect modems because of what it is.
< 1621464471 549552 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I though that was some DCC stuff? The +++ATH0 was poor modems not waiting for a delay after +++ and not distinguishing between incoming and outgoing data
< 1621464473 107645 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"smart" routers protecting you by breaking the TCP ting
< 1621464482 357352 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, I know, that's the original meaning
< 1621464487 798611 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "poor" I mean "poor quality"
< 1621464489 861184 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this happened much later, when nobody was using such modems anymore
< 1621464526 798407 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me
< 1621464565 795467 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The email address I have registered with Freenode is one which is no longer valid anyways, so if they sell it, it will be unusable. Even if I changed it to a valid one, the same would be true; I use a separate email address for each thing, so that if it receives spam, I disable it.
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< 1621464580 496509 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does firefox now ignore when a https page says that it has a CSS style sheet at a http address, because it knows better about security than the HTML that declares where its style sheet is?
< 1621464584 708359 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that new?
< 1621464662 224018 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the modem commands, I would think that it would be better to have a separate stream for commands and data, although RS-232 doesn't have that, therefore Dual-RS-232 must be used instead.
> 1621464698 563438 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sm6414]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83095 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+28) 10create temporary redirect (if you need to name, you can change this)
< 1621464729 456987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Sounds that way. They have a page about "mixed content blocking", https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mixed-content-blocking-firefox
< 1621464738 758188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't say since when they've been doing that.
> 1621464749 77731 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Super Mario 6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83096&oldid=83093 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+29) 10add joke languages cat
< 1621464775 276854 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: re: "is this real", most if not all of the freenode staff straight up resigned, the letters are real, and the scare-mongering isn't really scare-mongering.
> 1621464810 720128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Super Mario 6414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83097&oldid=83096 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+19) 10Add category 2021
< 1621464833 491474 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: it so is. saying "unregister your accounts and change their password, because someone is going to steal your private information" is scare-mongering, no matter how much they don't like whatever is happening to the network
< 1621464852 522575 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody's saying that.
< 1621464886 29501 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a single statement on kline.sh on how to remove, if you wish, your nickserv association.
< 1621464911 105000 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been legal threats to the freenode staff if they don't comply with handing the reigns over to lee.
< 1621464946 790790 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I would expect the password to be hashed, meaning they cannot steal it unless you log in again after they change the software
< 1621464958 174307 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have assumed control as of today.
< 1621464979 53722 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: They'll see it when you identify with services
< 1621464993 331426 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so /potentially/ they can log it right there and then
< 1621465003 338304 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: I'll quote that message: “If you care about your data, drop your NickServ account NOW before that happens.”
< 1621465014 198653 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is how ultimately, this is a question of trust
< 1621465016 809942 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: putting it mildly, if you look at the statements put forth by the staff, along with chat logs, and look at the history, this is legitimate. I don't know why you think the opposite other than to be a contrarian.
< 1621465030 338746 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a fact that the new controllers of freenode have possession of that data, and could _in principle_ abuse it
< 1621465043 955931 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is unclear if they will, but they are unambiguously able to
< 1621465054 685769 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yes, I'd agree that qualifies as fear-mongering. but it's also a personal opinion by *one* of the former Freenode staff.
< 1621465074 735588 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is maybe a bit inflammatory, but, if you don't have trust for the new controllers of freenode?
< 1621465090 302604 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering the purchase of the holding company tied to freenode happened in 2018 (2017? time means nothing these days) there were fears that PIA would do something shady.
< 1621465106 95020 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're trying to assert authority over the entire network via threatening to bankrupt the existing staff.
< 1621465117 690481 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bragging about taking over freenode on other networks.
< 1621465128 987957 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I mean..
< 1621465134 542941 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't trust like that.
< 1621465152 761787 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter _what_ way you spin it, this isn't a good thing.
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< 1621465324 618669 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, it is what I said; once you log in then they can steal it, if they have changed the software to steal this information.
> 1621465326 839144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83098&oldid=83070 5* 03B jonas 5* (+341) 10/* Freenode and the future */
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< 1621466243 37329 :oren!~oren@ec2-34-239-129-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean... as long as you don't use the *same* password with nickserv as with anything else
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< 1621467221 744578 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know some people will
< 1621467239 727787 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that's a good idea
< 1621467274 789301 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the same password with every nickserv
< 1621468039 23988 :watchingfreenode!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid NICK :ripfreenode
< 1621468077 440671 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't know what they intend to do with Freenode once they take it over; but, it is potentially of some concern.
< 1621468547 932893 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't trust the new owners of freenode
< 1621468554 920549 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i also don't trust facebook or google and i still use their platforms too
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< 1621468577 133190 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not you will trust someone, depend, what you will trust them with; it can be different.
< 1621468677 351057 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbqh i suspect freenode isn't long for this world regardless
< 1621468681 909096 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes use Google Search, as well as V8, but none of their other services. I don't use Facebook at all.
< 1621468707 977243 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode's lost all the people that ran it
< 1621468718 857948 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's hard to come back from
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> 1621468940 59611 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Num14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83099&oldid=83049 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (-3751) 10/* Main */
< 1621468964 802432 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although it still fails to answer the question what they will intend to do next. Although, maybe the Libera IRC will do; hopefully ifthe change can be properly managed from the channels (by setting topic messages or other messages to indicate it, by moving the bots and logs and managing their conversion properly, etc) then it can work.
> 1621468966 100904 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Num14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83100&oldid=83099 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+1) 10/* Main */
< 1621469266 429622 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, it's true; trust is a very multifaceted thing
> 1621469790 532386 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Icecream17/Arbitrary14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83101 5* 03Icecream17 5* (+512) 10Created page with "'''Icecream17/Arbitrary''' is ridiculous The following is subject to change {| class="wikitable" |+ Static programs |- ! Bits !! Hexadecimal source code !! What the source c..."
< 1621470963 761190 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1621471050 491712 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, anyone wants to grab cool nicknames of gullible people who think the best IT security practice for protecting their sensitive data is to listen to angry kline messages and drop their nickname registration?
< 1621471061 833279 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be nice short ones up to grabs
< 1621471069 402709 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rolls her eyes
< 1621471452 6614 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I changed the Four and Eight keywords in Free Hero Mesh to Rook and Queen instead, and I also added Bishop, too. Hopefully, this is better than how it was before; do you think?
< 1621471564 12384 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What problems could malicious staff cause with my NickServ data, assuming my password is unique to Freenode?
< 1621471586 719588 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not sure how private my memos are
< 1621471614 543450 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know; much of the data is public anyways I think. If you disable memos and use a distinct email address, then I doubt much can be done with it.
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> 1621473181 512233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CiaaiK 5* 10New user account
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> 1621476764 718246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Finites at Fredy's14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83102 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+4732) 10This was _supposed_ to be a parody, but has become more of an uninspiring, but accurate, review. "Fair use" either way.
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< 1621480529 408003 :ripfreenode!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid NICK :iovoid
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< 1621480758 811202 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any web browser display a indicator in the status line when there are messages in the web developer console, even if it is not currently opened?
> 1621482743 595753 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83103&oldid=82807 5* 03New Army 5* (-63) 10The link doesn't seem to be dead.
> 1621482864 838687 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83104&oldid=83098 5* 03New Army 5* (+187) 10/* LifeWiki links */
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< 1621484227 580868 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :lee posted a notice lmao.
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< 1621484811 314880 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :loll
< 1621485073 80782 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that.
< 1621485892 916250 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come neither side has any evj
< 1621485896 237916 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidence
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< 1621485915 11254 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hermit1.scsys.co.uk/~matthewt/fnwut
< 1621485917 353010 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other logs.
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< 1621487757 410036 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi let this day be nice to everyone!
< 1621489219 890269 :les-citrons!~citrons@alt.mondecitronne.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, apparently upheaval is happening in freenode world
< 1621489225 654154 :les-citrons!~citrons@alt.mondecitronne.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not particularly
< 1621489244 586684 :les-citrons!~citrons@alt.mondecitronne.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuned in to the operation of freenode
< 1621489264 639046 :les-citrons!~citrons@alt.mondecitronne.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I am seeing announcements from multiple operating system projects that they are moving away from freenode
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< 1621489528 591419 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :les-citrons: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal#Freenode_and_the_future
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< 1621496300 645400 :jix!~jix@static.71.5.69.159.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I've been particularly active here in the last 15 years, but if this channel moves to either oftc or libera I'll also move my idling over
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> 1621499356 135732 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Spider solitaire14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83105&oldid=83032 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+31) 10
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> 1621513471 517657 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83111&oldid=83110 5* 03Batata 5* (+43) 10
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< 1621524581 892418 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh
< 1621524591 822080 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on here with this massive freenode drama
< 1621524618 654798 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If by "here" you mean #esoteric, see https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal#Freenode_and_the_future
< 1621524620 534293 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phhh: discussion in Esolang talk:Community portal on the wiki
< 1621524649 145423 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a few of us sitting in ##esoteric on libera
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< 1621524675 633854 :imode!~imode@c-24-19-125-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net NICK :Guest11521
< 1621524676 761393 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas grabbed #esoteric on oftc
< 1621524679 713121 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely think we should demand #esoteric on libera
< 1621524693 362723 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :phhh: it's under our control too
< 1621524693 854953 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is an ancient and proud one
< 1621524717 640599 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :phhh: but fizzie decided to go with ##esoteric and was first so I made #esoteric forward to ##esoteric
< 1621524725 307264 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its name is integral to the matrix of solidity
< 1621524738 682226 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :##esoteric has twice as much matrix
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< 1621524775 9227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My proposal for a Libera community would be #esolangs (and #esolangs-*) rather than #esoteric.
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< 1621524793 686088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite the history.
< 1621524793 793714 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :phhh: anyway, it's a totally separate discussion and somewhat related to the community idea
< 1621524798 61511 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but #esoteric is where the *tradition* is!!
< 1621524807 946806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm aware it's the boring opinion that I have.
< 1621524812 638605 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd miss the joke though.
< 1621524830 872284 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my actual god.
< 1621524833 378326 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I called out Lee.
< 1621524838 265718 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :they took my nickname away.
< 1621524847 284714 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao
< 1621524849 613667 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't swap to imode.
< 1621524860 702396 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
< 1621524903 775806 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie i will resign over this
< 1621524908 470570 :river!~rain1@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1621524908 578011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cloak with `esolangs` in it would make more sense to me than one with `esoteric` in it.
< 1621524934 128372 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode1: real mature
< 1621524937 874546 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the sense of mystery
< 1621525007 698483 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is fucking hilarious.
< 1621525031 751808 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that doesn't give any of you an indication of where this network is headed, I don't know what will.
< 1621525080 41376 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an important reminder that the domain name is often the single most important piece of property associated with an internet thing
> 1621525144 908924 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83114&oldid=83107 5* 03Taneb 5* (+360) 10
< 1621525154 677423 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit man we won't have aloril around on libera.chat
< 1621525601 956448 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long, freenode.
< 1621525606 268036 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :been on this network since 06.
< 1621525612 636958 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :was a wild ride.
< 1621525619 420057 :imode1!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :see y'all on libera.
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< 1621525655 966816 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get why, if lee literally only owns the domain, the other faction hasn't just pointed a different domain name to the same servers and cut him off
< 1621525726 720620 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :phhh: I think they have to convince each sponsor individually, since they think they're sponsoring Freenode.
< 1621525737 9024 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for better or worse
< 1621525813 648123 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And reading between the line the user data got sold too so they couldn't just take existing nickname registrations and channels without risking a legal fight? Or maybe they wanted a fresh start. Or both.
< 1621525833 638235 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy to speculate, hard to know :P
< 1621525860 447437 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they were pretty clear that lee owns literally none of the infrastructure except the domain name
< 1621525872 38097 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phhh: they'd also need to change everyone's client configuration to point to the new domain
< 1621525894 53940 :phhh!52177139@82.23.113.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, which they could effectively mobilise people to do by breaking freenode.org
< 1621525918 424091 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it should be fairly clear which side has the better lawyers
< 1621525960 330249 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/has/can afford/
< 1621525974 887674 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or both
< 1621525978 632423 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably both
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< 1621527517 402581 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would imagine the servers are sponsored by organizations that make decisions at a slightly slower rate than "in hours". But I'm curious to see if and how many of them decide to abandon freenode.
< 1621527618 275945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actually trying to squint at https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode in case something's happened already, but I think it's just dropped by one so far.
< 1621527684 15759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And that can just be the usual noise.)
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< 1621528660 139040 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im moving to libera but staying on freenode as well
< 1621528678 185440 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im going to need hard evidence before i abandon freenode
< 1621528789 374395 :mniip!mniip@b.deneb.mniip.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, unfortunately it's not about the lawyers
< 1621528802 590444 :mniip!mniip@b.deneb.mniip.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sale contract was pretty specific
< 1621529587 511554 :jix!~jix@static.71.5.69.159.clients.your-server.de PART #esoteric :"part"
< 1621529783 314621 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libera_Chat
< 1621529795 660277 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Founded 19 May 2021; 1 day ago
< 1621529804 737075 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average users 10,000
< 1621529810 500722 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
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< 1621530042 869632 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :During last connections to libera.chat its servers reported an average of 9271 users and 8823 chat rooms
< 1621530054 636986 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 channel per user
< 1621530056 414528 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahah
< 1621530115 381942 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be very chatty in there
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< 1621530570 53190 :mniip!mniip@b.deneb.mniip.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know people can be in multiple channels
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< 1621531590 999562 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION moved the esolang categories daily scraper from Github's Actions to Google Cloud's Run + Scheduler
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< 1621535242 529462 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Lee only owns the domain name, and the DNS isn't changed, then it might not cause a problem unless you are using TLS, maybe, since I don't know if the certificate will remain valid.
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< 1621535675 279486 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, I don't know if the DNS would be changed in future, anyways.)
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< 1621536217 334449 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peronally i have to side with the freenode ownerr. These volunteers have made a WHOLE bunch of claims that have yet to be substianiated
< 1621536266 456986 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats wrong with a company sponsoring Freenode? People think freenode is cheap to run
< 1621536279 710093 :Guest75150!uid500518@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfmlmcazimegaulf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as the network stays fee thats all that matters
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< 1621538095 286644 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people don't think freenode is cheap to run, but the domain owner does not pay anything
< 1621538137 796396 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, he doesn't really have any reason to own the domain
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< 1621542098 833587 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: which is why he's waving around a contract
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< 1621542187 719854 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't say he doesn't have the rights
< 1621542208 715536 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just doesn't need to own it
< 1621542278 657794 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as somebody that knows one of the ex-staffers that got legal pressure personally, and also regarding lees history, i am way more inclined to believe the staffers
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< 1621542728 368641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUNET has seen fit to sponsor the new thing, that's good enough for me. ;) I don't know, there's something more natural about an IRC server hosted by a university thing, that's how IRC servers *should* be.
< 1621542783 427873 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What swayed me was sheer numbers. At one point in time, 4 staffers were left in #freenode, that was pathetic, especially since one of them was Lee himself...
< 1621542819 137172 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does say something that all of the old staffers acted together
< 1621542836 252341 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's that story about snoonet...
< 1621542917 303690 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never heard about snoonet before that whole freenet thing
< 1621542919 556456 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm pretty sure the staffers are morally right. I'm mostly worried about Libera itself failing somehow, say, through lack of sponsors. Nothing I can substantiate, they're just new.
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< 1621546910 611389 :FireFly!znc@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh? :o
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< 1621547035 337423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: For the record, I was basing that 100% on the publicly visible fact that iridium.libera.chat says "provided by NORDUnet/SUNET" and is in their network. https://netsplit.de/servers/details.php?host=iridium.libera.chat
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> 1621547381 209806 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83115&oldid=83114 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+1128) 10/* Freenode and the future */ Thoughts about networks.
< 1621547447 443401 :FireFly!znc@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1621547473 971302 :FireFly!znc@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, checks out; NORDUnet did (does?) sponsor a server on freenode
< 1621547479 634786 :FireFly!znc@unaffiliated/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wasn't aware :p
< 1621547664 941175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfe.freenode.net (which I think is/was theirs) doesn't seem to be answering me at the moment, whatever that means. I think I had that on my explicit-for-no-reason server list for geographical closeness to Finland, before moving.
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< 1621548868 56907 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a number of features that I would not want (or that I would want, but are not implemented) for setting up my own IRC channels, but for some others it can do.
< 1621549903 697994 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? freenode
< 1621549906 231809 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Realm of Freenode is our homeland. The Chännel dwells in it since... Uhm... Quite a few years ago?
< 1621550045 175170 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 9Ls-TD1tj_J4
< 1621550047 96974 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :9Ls-TD1tj_J4
< 1621550053 560536 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you here too, fungot?
< 1621550054 206878 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mr president, i think that that is not necessary to import such wines from third countries may have to set the seal on this debate in the national parliaments should be the new government has been agreed upon by the council to adopt a general plan for humanitarian aid or the request for a repeat vote during the may part-session, which says that we should deal with the spread of animal diseases with a cap that, in the w
< 1621550072 628017 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn libera Libera is the land of the future. Maybe.
< 1621550075 684776 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'libera': libera Libera is the land of the future. Maybe.
< 1621550085 459574 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Libera is the land of the future. Maybe.
< 1621550088 93417 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'libera': Libera is the land of the future. Maybe.
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< 1621551311 614081 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that we can see if it comes to any problems in Freenode, and if so then it can be moved to Libera, but even right away the log and other handling should be prepared in case the move is necessary in future. (If the program supports that, it can also be moved to others too if that somehow becomes necessary, I suppose.)
< 1621551366 213745 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think fizzie is just blowing his copious free time on exactly that
< 1621551454 767891 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, good
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< 1621551671 649686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not entirely, but I did do a little bit of it. At least the log collection, if not the presentation.
< 1621551744 881003 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we do want to keep channels in both networks connected by a bridge for some nontrivial amount of time, I could be convinced to do that over the esowiki/esolangs bot pair.
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> 1621559197 468796 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07314]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83116 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+936) 10Created page with "3 is an esoteric programming language which is a subset of JavaScript. In 3, every sequence of 3 consecutive character must contain at least one 3. ==Sample Programs== ===He..."
> 1621559222 740135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83117&oldid=83116 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+1) 10
> 1621560645 257907 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83118&oldid=83117 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+82) 10
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< 1621576955 865634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan_
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< 1621579481 811812 :ksdfj!~ksdfj@gateway/tor-sasl/ksdfj PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm libera still doesn't have tor access
< 1621579512 634169 :ksdfj!~ksdfj@gateway/tor-sasl/ksdfj PRIVMSG #esoteric :although b_jonas has good points
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< 1621593363 50152 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf https://esolangs.org/wiki/41943040000000000000000000000
< 1621593402 587485 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's Heavpoot
< 1621593413 803807 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: it's 20^22, so a pun on the other future languages they made
< 1621593428 614471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"made"
< 1621593431 386548 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"future"
< 1621593498 163392 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... https://esolangs.org/wiki/Macron
< 1621593562 235670 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: did you see the history
< 1621593600 559935 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: that one was initially supposed to be "made" in 2026
< 1621593626 916424 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are planning skills
< 1621593639 114975 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should show them in job interview
< 1621593650 327390 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also https://esolangs.org/wiki/Categorial
< 1621593665 183675 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is enough.
< 1621593683 487744 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the only item in the category https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:5D_Brainfuck_With_Multiverse_Time_Travel_derivatives
< 1621593699 550213 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean he made a lot of categories
< 1621593771 481841 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we missed that edit cf. https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Categorial&diff=79215&oldid=77006
< 1621593817 979026 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just... we have a lot of jokes on the wiki, and we tolerate those. But the wiki itself isn't supposed to be a joke.
> 1621593851 436531 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Categorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83119&oldid=81196 5* 03Int-e 5* (-66) 10Remove non-category, again. Sigh.
< 1621594114 886042 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Turing_Complete probably should be https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Turing_complete
< 1621594373 999519 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: you could fix the category in the one language that spells it wrong
< 1621594472 230326 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e I'm not sure what are the policies
< 1621594481 177802 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should be a redirect?
< 1621594523 304547 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: there's only one language in the category, not worth a redirect
> 1621594575 665312 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07C = theNextIntegerThatComesAfterAnotherIntegerWithTheValueOf(c)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83120&oldid=80756 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10fix cat(meow)egory typo
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< 1621595650 116555 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it can theoretically do anything C++ can, except be actually good."
< 1621595656 475918 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know c++ could be good
< 1621595831 769495 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: heh, that sentence can be parsed in several ways
< 1621595847 513755 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1621595957 355295 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a huge stretch, but given the idea that C++ can't actually be good, you could extract that unlike C++, this language can actually be good.
< 1621596136 899414 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said, subsets of C++ can be nice. Wars have been fought about which subsets these are :P [citation needed]
< 1621596186 399926 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have yet to see one
< 1621596477 393459 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like STL (the sausage way... don't ask what's inside), I like having namespaces associated with structs, and I avoid OO.
< 1621596574 377371 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so far I don't care for the newer additions to C++, except for threads (C++11). And maybe the closure bit, though the syntax for those is atrocious.
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> 1621602693 558247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Fargo14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83121&oldid=81584 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+3) 10/* Truth-machine */ fix
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> 1621607417 897359 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83122&oldid=83113 5* 03Batata 5* (+12) 10
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> 1621607530 989533 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83124&oldid=83123 5* 03Batata 5* (+8) 10
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> 1621607594 451155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83126&oldid=83125 5* 03Batata 5* (-7) 10
> 1621607645 676624 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83127&oldid=83126 5* 03Batata 5* (+31) 10
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> 1621609533 845901 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83128&oldid=82963 5* 03Batata 5* (+49) 10
> 1621609601 592133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83129&oldid=83128 5* 03Batata 5* (-3) 10
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> 1621609737 179629 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83130&oldid=83129 5* 03Batata 5* (-4) 10
> 1621609849 467195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83131&oldid=83130 5* 03Batata 5* (+72) 10
> 1621609886 382675 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83132&oldid=83131 5* 03Batata 5* (+12) 10
< 1621609914 679997 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear
> 1621610063 258048 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Ilaylevy 5* 10New user account
> 1621610096 494059 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83133&oldid=83132 5* 03Batata 5* (-2) 10
> 1621610117 209533 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83134&oldid=83133 5* 03Batata 5* (-12) 10
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> 1621610573 476513 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83135&oldid=83127 5* 03Batata 5* (+44) 10
> 1621610591 642187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83136&oldid=83135 5* 03Batata 5* (+0) 10
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> 1621610693 647622 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83137&oldid=83136 5* 03Batata 5* (+2) 10
> 1621610716 938614 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83138&oldid=83137 5* 03Batata 5* (+1) 10
> 1621610833 833656 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83139&oldid=83138 5* 03Batata 5* (+0) 10
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> 1621611336 694752 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83140&oldid=83089 5* 03Ilaylevy 5* (+143) 10/* Introductions */
> 1621611364 214052 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Yogurt14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83141 5* 03Ilaylevy 5* (+446) 10Created page with "Yogurt is a language that uses only 1 character to do a certain action, for example:
{| class="wikitable" |+ Caption text |- ! Symbol !! Action |- | p || prints the c..."
< 1621611420 176377 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's brainfuck without loops
> 1621611454 716233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83142&oldid=83139 5* 03Batata 5* (+0) 10
> 1621611481 306132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83143&oldid=83142 5* 03Batata 5* (+9) 10
< 1621611700 920678 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone finally fixed the Dregni on Introduce yourself
< 1621611719 851887 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess
< 1621615140 103449 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`env
< 1621615140 870648 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATH=/hackenv/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ TERM=linux \ HOME=/tmp \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ IRC_NICK=b_jonas \ IRC_IDENT=~a \ IRC_HOST=catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu \ IRC_COMMAND=PRIVMSG \ IRC_TARGET=#esoteric \ IRC_MESSAGE=`env \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8
> 1621615453 164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Eek!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83144&oldid=83022 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (-464) 10
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> 1621616407 52251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Eek!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83145&oldid=83144 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+50) 10
> 1621616483 620716 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Eek!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83146&oldid=83145 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+41) 10
< 1621617331 146374 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? trap
< 1621617332 285979 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :trap? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1621617335 699030 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mv
< 1621617336 900343 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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> 1621619193 491553 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Eek!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83148&oldid=83147 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+2) 10
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> 1621619239 671368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PaRappa14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83149 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+3311) 10Created page with "'''PaRappa''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] that is based on the rhythm game "PaRappa The Rapper". The code is meant to look like the gameplay. It is nearly identica..."
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> 1621619326 668344 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Zero player rodent14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83150&oldid=83023 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+15) 10
> 1621619545 387595 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03E97m2813flz1a 5* 10New user account
> 1621619900 9353 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83151&oldid=83140 5* 03E97m2813flz1a 5* (+129) 10Introduce myself
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< 1621621084 930334 :Wezl!Wezl@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-ozyfhifrdxuhjpfa PART #esoteric :"WeeChat 3.0.1"
> 1621621354 223362 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IRP14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83152&oldid=67566 5* 03E97m2813flz1a 5* (+345) 10Describe the situation after Freenode takeover
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> 1621623077 361208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03RobynTiger 5* 10New user account
> 1621623249 316660 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83153&oldid=83151 5* 03RobynTiger 5* (+161) 10/* Introductions */
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> 1621623499 263535 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:RobynTiger14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83154 5* 03RobynTiger 5* (+151) 10Created page with "First-year Computer Science and Mathematics student :D (I'll add more interesting stuff here later, I guess xD) [https://github.com/robyntiger GitHub]"
> 1621625207 396600 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07RCEM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83155&oldid=83090 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+313) 10Corrected an error in the resizing of the memory vector, introduced this scaling for other commands, and fixed an erroneous type declaration.
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< 1621626171 994649 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell is going on on libera.
< 1621626301 222696 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1621626347 864711 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the network is having a bit of a hard time.
< 1621626366 554499 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :connections are terminating, splits are happening.
< 1621626374 45678 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :response times are off the wall.
< 1621626387 207192 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope it's not some kind of stupid denial of service.
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< 1621627001 774024 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, like being back in the days of IRC wars.
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< 1621627052 890125 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://youtu.be/xu6gmQCljfo
< 1621627108 125806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least these sort of newfangled networks have services.
< 1621627123 855995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keeping a channel on IRCnet was much more exciting.
< 1621627154 850017 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: even worse, keeping ops around...
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< 1621627291 615372 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to libera!
< 1621627293 612659 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.1
< 1621627506 115621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRCnet did add the +r / +R modes in ircd 2.10 or 2.11 or something.
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< 1621627527 355674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which reops a randomly selected person matching the given masks if the channel has no ops left.)
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< 1621627617 225826 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think it also has extra modes besides op and voiced, one of which help with persistance somehow
< 1621627626 996298 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I don't quite know how it works
< 1621628073 950835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also added ! channels, which are pretty funky.
< 1621628110 867841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You join !!foo to create one, and it joins you onto !XXXXXfoo, where XXXXX is a randomly chosen 5-character identifier.
< 1621628161 480246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then if there's a netsplit and the other side loses track of your channel, if someone tries to recreate it to get ops on it, it'll likely get a different identifier, and then post-split you end up with two different channels.
< 1621628190 420339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joining !foo will join !XXXXXfoo if it's unambiguous, I don't remember what it does when it's not.
< 1621628211 104896 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; the channel types ! & + all ignore this net splitting problem although for three different reasons.
< 1621628325 854686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only ! channel where I still spend time on is !ucr7kassembly, which has had that same identifier since at least 2004. (It's for the Finnish demoscene event, Assembly.)
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< 1621630839 348867 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ignore/avoid/
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> 1621632008 908170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Batata14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83158 5* 03Batata 5* (+1) 10Created page with "e"
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> 1621633015 784849 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83159&oldid=83157 5* 03Batata 5* (+88) 10
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> 1621645215 567569 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83162&oldid=83161 5* 03Batata 5* (+48) 10
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< 1621646813 31704 :esowiki!~esowiki@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/esowiki JOIN :#esoteric
> 1621646858 729530 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think there's about 25% likelihood it will do anything meaningful.
> 1621646887 949845 PRIVMSG #esoteric : On the other hand, if it does work, it'll be the first time fungot says anything over on this side.
< 1621646920 218131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, except it won't, because fungot ignores esowiki for obvious reasons. Heh, didn't think of that.
< 1621646920 561577 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think that honourable members are representatives of the european union, i.e. the problem is not that people are still listening. in those circumstances, as often as is necessary.
> 1621646936 960985 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, it worked indirectly, I guess.
> 1621647017 235730 PRIVMSG #esoteric : If anyone wants to turn that off for any reason at all, just say "brctl: ignore freenode/*" and "brctl: ignore libera/*", that should stop it from doing anything.
> 1621647062 148132 PRIVMSG #esoteric : neeeeat.
> 1621647104 913425 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm sure there's a corner case beyond that of the spam thing that we didn't think of that'll ruin everything.
> 1621647113 440914 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I should probably check that the logging is still working, at least.
> 1621647188 510713 PRIVMSG #esoteric : How do I opt out of being bridged?
< 1621647287 587213 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :brctl: ignored
> 1621647287 587271 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brctl: Ignore list: freenode/shachaf libera/shachaf
> 1621647321 972648 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungot?
> 1621647330 35277 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungooooot.
< 1621647331 754619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess those brctl commands didn't show up on this side. Thinking about these things is hard.
> 1621647341 390055 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh it will be ignoring esowiki over there
< 1621647358 324840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you have to invoke it over here, then the replies will be piped over.
< 1621647374 76620 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot
< 1621647374 572609 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: mr president, i would also like to say something which the european union, the forests are often the very ones which do actually protect the interests of safety to subject aircraft control and monitoring of that strategy. i am sure that you are right to say that the commission is unwilling to apply this decision retroactively and share the satisfaction of everyone's needs. regarding the recent agreement made over the nex
> 1621647409 960129 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so what's the plan for the bridge, are y'all moving to libera or are you maintaining a presence.
> 1621647455 208367 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the resulting logs will not be confusing at all
< 1621647461 125731 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :у / ý / ÿ / ŷ / ƴ / ȳ / ɏ / ỳ / ỹ / ỿ / ẏ / ẙ / ỵ / ỷ
> 1621647464 444951 PRIVMSG #esoteric : у / ý / ÿ / ŷ / ƴ / ȳ / ɏ / ỳ / ỹ / ỿ / ẏ / ẙ / ỵ / ỷ
> 1621647490 640514 PRIVMSG #esoteric : As for plans, I don't really know yet for sure. I guess we're kind of exploring the configuration space.
> 1621647541 379155 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fair.
> 1621647543 367952 PRIVMSG #esoteric : There's a little bit of talk at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal#Freenode_and_the_future if you missed that link.
> 1621647571 55871 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I had it in my history but haven't checked it.
> 1621647580 878828 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not many comments.
> 1621647856 760624 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think personally I'd be up for migrating here as the sort of main location, but I don't know how maybe-less-active-right-now-but-still-well-established channel regulars feel.
> 1621647956 974774 PRIVMSG #esoteric : btw, velik is logging too
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> 1621648394 30487 PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: Re logs, yeah, especially if opting out becomes commonplace. Well, we can give up on the bridge if it gets too much, just couldn't resist.
> 1621648439 522609 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Also, the ignore list is just in-memory at this point.)
> 1621648952 826262 PRIVMSG #esoteric : a bridge, you say
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< 1621649020 158656 :user3456!user3456@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-csqkewytzwifjdsp PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, a bridge
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> 1621649048 197104 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Over troubled water, no doubt.
> 1621649266 951034 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, if I turn off windows_auto_renumber, I think I could maybe convince irssi to give the "parallel universe" channels window numbers that are, say, offset by 100 from the ones I'm used to, and that way remember what the numbers mean.
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> 1621649318 692898 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AndrewBayly14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83164 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+58) 10Created page with "Hi, I'm Andrew. Here are the esolangs that I have created:"
> 1621649564 479709 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AndrewBayly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83165&oldid=83164 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+447) 10
> 1621649601 452942 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AndrewBayly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83166&oldid=83165 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+0) 10
> 1621650414 550233 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: you can also put multiple channels into the same window if you wish, though you may have to change the formatting to distinguish them then
> 1621650450 831544 PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh hey, you enabled a bridge to freenode?
< 1621650454 970826 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work both directions?
> 1621650461 226316 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes it does, jonas
> 1621650553 540774 PRIVMSG #esoteric : " I'm sure there's a corner case beyond that of the spam thing that we didn't think of that'll ruin everything." => bot loops probably
> 1621650579 698968 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yeah; I don't know if it's a good idea, but it's there for now. At least a cross-network botloop would be somewhat novel.
> 1621650644 423753 PRIVMSG #esoteric : There's a few "brctl:"-prefixed commands that anyone can use to manage which nicknames are ignored, and as a special case * will match all nicks if you need to turn it off completely and I'm not around.
> 1621650690 812207 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Taneb: as for OFTC and the +s flag, I believe that's as much of a policy as freenode's ## prefix in channel names
> 1621650715 530365 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `? log
> 1621650717 661971 PRIVMSG #esoteric : #esoteric channel logs: https://esolangs.org/logs/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/esologs/
> 1621650821 611189 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ``` echo "let's see what the bridge does with long lines. they should just be truncated."; seq 999
> 1621650823 256274 PRIVMSG #esoteric : let's see what the bridge does with long lines. they should just be truncated. \ 1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 6 \ 7 \ 8 \ 9 \ 10 \ 11 \ 12 \ 13 \ 14 \ 15 \ 16 \ 17 \ 18 \ 19 \ 20 \ 21 \ 22 \ 23 \ 24 \ 25 \ 26 \ 27 \ 28 \ 29 \ 30 \ 31 \ 32 \ 33 \ 34 \ 35 \ 36 \ 37 \ 38 \ 39 \ 40 \ 41 \ 42 \ 43 \ 44 \ 45 \ 46 \ 47 \ 48 \ 49 \ 50 \ 51 \ 52 \ 53 \ 54 \ 55 \ 56 \ 57 \ 58 \ 59 \ 60 \ 61 \ 62 \ 63 \ 64 \ 65 \ 66 \ 67 \ 68 \ 69 \ 70 \ 71 \ 72 \ 73 \ 74 \ 75 \ 76 \ 77 \ 78
> 1621650823 740671 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lambdabot: > 1
> 1621650861 239534 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lambdabot: @run 1
> 1621650862 843981 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1
< 1621650895 186433 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @run 2
< 1621650896 628168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2
< 1621650905 797134 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, good.
< 1621651879 930833 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves to the bridge
> 1621651894 250128 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess clients might differ in how they render that
> 1621652139 628689 PRIVMSG #esoteric : .
> 1621652168 231959 PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: how did you send that without the bridge forwarding it?
< 1621652344 116452 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is there a github for logs?
< 1621652383 988441 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? why
< 1621652385 157648 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1621652473 918222 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no particular reason; the attitude is, they're there, they're public, so they should be listed in the topic
> 1621653464 854848 PRIVMSG #esoteric : The thing with notices is, the client-side presentation is all over the place. Especially in irssi, where they get the channel name for no reason.
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> 1621653481 142092 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I did consider forwarding them too, though.
< 1621653491 552253 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
> 1621653501 526280 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In Hexchat, it also shows the channel name
> 1621653513 590053 PRIVMSG #esoteric : like this: [11:01:50] -18int-e/22##esoteric- that worked
< 1621653552 65171 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
> 1621653582 15746 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://youtu.be/T0NYZDGTA5g the l0de radio hour is live! IRC's FINEST HOUR, the late night call in show where you are the star! Call in live, tonight's episl0de: A Small White Dog
> 1621653616 102186 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, the first forwarded spam.
> 1621653640 398172 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Technically all bot replies are supposed to be NOTICEs, and no bot should ever automatically reply to a NOTICE. But nobody actually follows the first half of that. It would entirely prevent botloops, though.
< 1621653704 348153 :user3456!user3456@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-csqkewytzwifjdsp PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least libera.chat's antispam kicked in
> 1621653733 831143 PRIVMSG #esoteric : RFC 2812: "The difference between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies MUST NEVER be sent in response to a NOTICE message. -- This is typically used by services, and automatons (clients with either an AI or other interactive program controlling their actions)."
< 1621653784 32607 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Hmmm
> 1621653792 886472 PRIVMSG #esoteric : well that went out of the window when mIRC came along, didn't it
> 1621653801 166438 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and turned notices into popups
> 1621653871 306204 PRIVMSG #esoteric : irssi hilights me on channel wide notices too.
> 1621653872 209078 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (that's probably, and hopefully, no longer the case)
> 1621653942 828485 PRIVMSG #esoteric : shikhin: check the /hilight settings? I'd expect that notices are mentioned somewhere in their explicitely then, but I'm not sure
> 1621653947 192920 PRIVMSG #esoteric : their->there
> 1621655597 639823 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://youtu.be/T0NYZDGTA5g the l0de radio hour is live! IRC's FINEST HOUR, the late night call in show where you are the star! Call in live, tonight's episl0de: A Small White Dog
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> 1621663986 969026 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Assign14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83167 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+2258) 10Created page with "Assign is an esoteric programming language that is a subset of JavaScript. In Assign there are no assignment, increment or decrement operators. ==Strategy== I found that to w..."
> 1621664053 67863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Assign14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83168&oldid=83167 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+82) 10
> 1621664110 129773 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:AndrewBayly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83169&oldid=83166 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+88) 10
> 1621664427 703527 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kwes 5* 10New user account
> 1621664504 890423 PRIVMSG #esoteric : /!\ THIS CHANNEL HAS MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #HAMRADIO /!\
> 1621664634 967245 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83170&oldid=83153 5* 03Kwes 5* (+185) 10
> 1621664669 22494 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Kwes14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83171 5* 03Kwes 5* (+12) 10Created page with "making stuff"
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> 1621665185 488729 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Yogurt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83172&oldid=83141 5* 03Ilaylevy 5* (-4) 10
> 1621665387 671442 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I mean. no?
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> 1621665940 255783 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm a bit confused where those bots come from. like, is it someone from new freenode to annoy people that switched?
> 1621666562 656811 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's very similar to previous spam waves... feels like just people who enjoy getting people to react to it
< 1621666570 985717 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PART :#esoteric
> 1621667409 54750 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mm, trolls
> 1621667437 596709 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the conspiracist in me thinks all this drama is manufactured to benefit Discord
> 1621667446 687477 PRIVMSG #esoteric : chaos, Discord, confusion, bureaucracy, aftermath
> 1621667461 574575 PRIVMSG #esoteric : also I'm still in freenode #esoteric and it's "fun" to see my messages mirrored there
< 1621667469 62726 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :dongs
> 1621667559 626034 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Confusion would be a good name for a discord competitor
> 1621667879 342828 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes
> 1621667939 841302 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i mean one of their major competitors is Slack
> 1621667949 157391 PRIVMSG #esoteric : which I assume is a reference to the Church of the SubGenius, an offshoot of Discordianism
> 1621667955 981900 PRIVMSG #esoteric : which came first I'm not sure
> 1621667997 75596 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but this is one of these "holy shit, the people in my cohort of awkward weird nerds grew up and are running the world now" things
> 1621668033 428169 PRIVMSG #esoteric : meanwhile I briefly worked for an also-ran web chat service based on Zephyr (named Zulip, now open source) and got fired for being depressed before my shares vested
> 1621668036 464083 PRIVMSG #esoteric : c'est la vie.
> 1621668880 43719 PRIVMSG #esoteric : /!\ THIS CHANNEL HAS MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #HAMRADIO /!\
> 1621668883 34318 PRIVMSG #esoteric : /!\ JOIN #HAMRADIO TODAY. THIS CHANNEL HAS MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #HAMRADIO /!\
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> 1621669708 458076 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ACTION morning!
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> 1621671030 754574 PRIVMSG #esoteric : good morning
> 1621671037 555333 PRIVMSG #esoteric : relay bot not so good with CTCP ACTION
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> 1621672561 222142 PRIVMSG #esoteric : keegan: how's it going
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< 1621672680 541165 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie also you can blacklist the "/!\" substring
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> 1621674246 905684 PRIVMSG #esoteric : keegan: You can opt out from being bridged if you like, by saying "brctl: ignore keegan" on this side.
> 1621674370 431373 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'll filter out /!\ though that's pretty specific to this particular spam wave.
> 1621674457 671737 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I faintly remember some #hamradio-themed spam from time before the split, wonder why that one gets picked on so much.
> 1621674728 51177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Hmmmmmmmm 5* 10New user account
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> 1621675141 742621 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83173&oldid=83170 5* 03Hmmmmmmmm 5* (+213) 10Add my user introduction
> 1621675146 618051 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hmmmmmmmm14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83174 5* 03Hmmmmmmmm 5* (+185) 10Make my own account page
< 1621677247 305202 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll suspend my twitch IRC analytics project and probably delete my account since they made another post where they continue falsely accusing their users in "hating women" to censor the fact that they became a platform for prostitution
< 1621677428 695878 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the only network where I currently saw the Tags IRC v3 feature
> 1621677685 407714 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 18:34:24 If IRC had past message editing capabilities, I'd make that thing collapse consecutive edits the same way the recent changes page does.
> 1621677719 534938 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://ircv3.net/ - IRCv3 Features - Grouping related messages to simplify collapsing and display of those messages to users.
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> 1621677889 626656 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yeah, I saw that mentioned somewhere.
> 1621678445 652016 PRIVMSG #esoteric : this editing/collapsing stuff changes things a lot
> 1621678477 692789 PRIVMSG #esoteric : we are used to that if we open the logs we see the same that we see in chat
> 1621678518 711426 PRIVMSG #esoteric : now we have to add some post processing to convert logs to "real" chat log
> 1621678618 485910 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and how are we supposed to split logs by days if there was a message collapse over the 00:00
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> 1621682230 118248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* 10New user account
> 1621682312 955729 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83175&oldid=83173 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+233) 10/* Introductions */
> 1621682525 602482 PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: So I went ahead and had a pre-discussion with Libera staff, and they're okay with the notion of having an 'esolangs' community at #esolangs, but having #esoteric forward to it for "quite some time", which I think probably means "up until a group of aspiring magicians wants to claim it for their rites". I think I'd be happy with that? People can still keep making the jokes on the rare occasion
> 1621682531 601448 PRIVMSG #esoteric : someone comes in confused.
> 1621682746 380472 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83176&oldid=79839 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+732) 10Example added: Truth machine
> 1621682756 745441 PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: So I went ahead and had a pre-discussion with Libera staff, and they're okay with the notion of having an 'esolangs' community at #esolangs, but having #esoteric forward to it for "quite some time", which I think probably means "up until a group of aspiring magicians wants to claim it for their rites". I think I'd be happy with that? People can still keep making the jokes on the rare occasion
> 1621682762 833988 PRIVMSG #esoteric : someone comes in confused.
> 1621683138 515976 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83177&oldid=83176 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+269) 10/* Parts */ Disambiguations
> 1621683160 940881 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83178&oldid=83177 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (-2) 10/* Parts */ Format error
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> 1621683960 673800 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:HaleyHalcyon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83179 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+1753) 10Created page with "== MarioLANG test cases == The code is run on the sandbox at TIO.run. === Multiple elevators on the same X coordinate === ==== Code ==== > :! "===== > ! ==..."
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> 1621684578 224140 PRIVMSG #esoteric : do I understand right that it's practically impossible to add a language to https://tio.run/# ? because the last commit I see in their repo 2 years ago and there are hanging pull requests in both repos
> 1621684919 978737 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it would be nice if there was some frontend for arbitrary languages execution so I would need only provide a backend
> 1621684930 549817 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I've heard of TIO, but I don't think I've ever actually used it.
> 1621684933 99617 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lovely language list, though: probably the first time I've seen Quadrefunge, Quintefunge, Sexefunge and Septefunge mentioned anywhere.
> 1621684958 710693 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:HaleyHalcyon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83180&oldid=83179 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+873) 10/* MarioLANG test cases */
> 1621685157 386461 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:HaleyHalcyon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83181&oldid=83180 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+120) 10/* Wall/floor interchangeability */
> 1621685185 569960 PRIVMSG #esoteric : looks like they were mirroring every language https://github.com/TryItOnline?q=&type=&language=&sort=
> 1621685207 881461 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83182&oldid=83178 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+74) 10/* Instructions to Mario */
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> 1621686786 51847 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83183&oldid=83115 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+690) 10/* Freenode and the future */ On community registration.
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> 1621687095 104918 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: I wonder if with webassembly and such it'd be viable to make something like this that doesnt need server resources (outside hosting the files somewhere), runs all the interpreters in the browser
> 1621687233 114264 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Kind of reminds me of how the Internet Archive has all those old pieces of old software in a playable state by running the emulation in the browser.
> 1621687949 572369 PRIVMSG #esoteric : should be easily possible. there are cross compiled linuxes that run entirelyy in browsers
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> 1621688236 963976 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: sure, we can go to #esolangs . it matches the esolangs.org domain name that points to the wiki.
< 1621688272 880623 :ksdfj!~ksdfj@gateway/tor-sasl/ksdfj PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: re TIO yeah, the chatroom's starboard https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/44255 explains why
< 1621688312 636781 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what brand of DVD demagnetizer do you recommend?
< 1621688313 211971 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mr president, i should like us to be very significant and important, being adopted in due course should that appear necessary. finally, our obligation, as it sometimes does not immediately become obligatory and an essential service. with regard to these circumstances it is believed that this issue is already covered by the definition of the fields of finance for innovation and growth.
< 1621688367 873391 :ksdfj!~ksdfj@gateway/tor-sasl/ksdfj PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it would be nice if there was some frontend for arbitrary languages execution so I would need only provide a backend" you mean you'd be willing to host it?
< 1621688404 547033 :ksdfj!~ksdfj@gateway/tor-sasl/ksdfj PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume the frontend is somewhere in the github
> 1621688420 963069 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you mean like llvm?
> 1621688480 756551 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: you could just have it run an interpreter, since you have a high chance that you can find an interpreter ran in a language that TIO can already run
> 1621688518 835492 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you may need to do some porting, but probably not more porting than you'd need to do to run the same interpreter in browser client side
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< 1621688799 396919 :ksdfj!~ksdfj@gateway/tor-sasl/ksdfj PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recently learnt of a wasm interpreter for k https://ktye.github.io/, for which i believe the author wrote their own c-dialect to wasm converter https://github.com/ktye/i/blob/master/_/i3/w/readme
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> 1621692215 78681 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03T0mi10 5* 10New user account
> 1621692437 956983 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83184&oldid=82736 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+215) 10Add input, Truth-machine, and cat program
> 1621692630 663679 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83185&oldid=83184 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-66) 10/* Examples */ Remove annoying ZWSPs, and prevent them
> 1621692781 251625 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83186&oldid=83185 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-3) 10Remove the last ZWSP
> 1621692860 588207 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83187&oldid=83186 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+51) 10/* Commands */ Bangyen's suggestion
> 1621693370 962623 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: sounds reasonable to me, and about what I'd expect from policy etc.
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> 1621695883 592094 PRIVMSG #esoteric : b_jonas I mean I just need a frontend for RASEL; don't want to reinvent this webpage with forms and stuff
> 1621695942 849221 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the backend can be trivially done serverless in Cloud Run
> 1621696006 501313 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and even moderated call rate via additional layer with a lightweight webserver that would track how often it's being spinned
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> 1621696226 592710 PRIVMSG #esoteric : TIL Excel has lambda for some time now
> 1621696232 968160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and let!
> 1621696248 62194 PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/lambda-the-ultimatae-excel-worksheet-function
< 1621696266 251842 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so bridge is working?
> 1621696559 161986 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yep, though I think I'll be moving this end of it to `#esolangs`.
> 1621696568 427088 PRIVMSG #esoteric : arseniiv: I heard about that. I don't think it's a big deal. we always had excel 3 named functions where you just slap the expressions you want to evaluate into cells of a macro worksheet, with possibly local names they assign to, assign a name marked as a macro function to their first cell, and then if you call that function from a formula, it evaluates the cells in order from top to bottom, unless
> 1621696574 568505 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you call GOTO or similar functions. there is one serious limitation of course: whe a macro function (which you can call from expressions in cells) is executed, unlike when a macro procedure (which you can't call that way) is executed, most builtins that cause side-effects, such as change the formula of a cell, have their side effects silently suppressed, so it's hard to cause side effects from a macro
> 1621696580 572172 PRIVMSG #esoteric : function other than changing the values (not the formulas) of the cells of that macro function (other formulas can then refer to those values)
> 1621696652 725243 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the main way that macro worksheets differ from normal worksheets btw is that on normal worksheets, all cells have their value recomputed automatcally every time their formula or a cell they recursively depend on changes (you can turn this off, but that's unusual), while in a macro worksheet, cells are evaluated only when a macro is running and its program counter points to that cell
> 1621696691 135784 PRIVMSG #esoteric : didn't use Excel since like 2012
> 1621696693 834557 PRIVMSG #esoteric : TODO for self: document esowiki (the bot) on the wiki, especially its ignore statement
> 1621696714 58212 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: I said "forever". this existed since the earliest time I've seen Excel.
> 1621696737 364759 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Google Docs Spreadsheets have Google Apps Script that can do all the calculations and integrate with the rest of Docs and Google services
> 1621696778 117912 PRIVMSG #esoteric : interesting, didn’t read anywhere about macro worksheets
> 1621696795 414912 PRIVMSG #esoteric : not only it allows defining functions, those "macros" can be ran on their own on trigger or schedule, centralised, no edit wars
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> 1621696829 641561 PRIVMSG #esoteric : people literally run the whole businesses in Spreadsheets with GAS since then
> 1621696856 290401 PRIVMSG #esoteric : schools, some shops, warehouses
> 1621696886 109225 PRIVMSG #esoteric : arseniiv: it's not a story the Jedi would tell you
> 1621696896 382763 PRIVMSG #esoteric : then it got all integrated with Bigdata and other data processing services of Google with bells and whistles
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> 1621697372 494778 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Loading configurations without killing the process would be far too bourgeoisie thing to allow.)
> 1621698060 532340 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is it bridged?
< 1621698071 959139 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is. funny.
< 1621698100 652364 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :semibridge
> 1621698105 649686 PRIVMSG #esoteric : where is this bridged
> 1621698117 597008 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd: to freenode/#esoteric
> 1621698124 354509 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ah
> 1621698144 955819 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `ping
> 1621698147 8369 PRIVMSG #esoteric : pong
> 1621698204 808868 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ACTION weeps for #esoteric
> 1621698436 348637 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` (quote '#esoteric'; grWp '#esoteric') | wc -l # int-e: at least we'll still have all these references for who knows how long
> 1621698437 636396 PRIVMSG #esoteric : 56
> 1621698627 133413 PRIVMSG #esoteric : how about cloaks
> 1621698630 16923 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `env
> 1621698630 841618 PRIVMSG #esoteric : PATH=/hackenv/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ TERM=linux \ HOME=/tmp \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ IRC_NICK=b_jonas \ IRC_IDENT=~x \ IRC_HOST=catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu \ IRC_COMMAND=PRIVMSG \ IRC_TARGET=#esolangs \ IRC_MESSAGE=`env \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8
> 1621698637 752899 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes, we're on #esolangs now
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> 1621698671 709755 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is esoteric deprecated?
> 1621698679 925174 PRIVMSG #esoteric : of course, as fizzie said, the move won't officially be official until we edit https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Community_portal
> 1621698740 802093 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and we might want to wait until the admins get an official webchat working, rather than using kiwi
> 1621698785 827680 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ACTION stops munching on kiwi and hides the skins
> 1621698788 215370 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the name "libera" still sounds stupid to me because it sounds like the diaper brand "Libero"
> 1621698790 176184 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm? kiwi? what kiwi
> 1621698823 192865 PRIVMSG #esoteric : For the community registration, what I have is a "verbal" ack (plus settings for this channel), I've not gotten a reply yet to the formal email. So we might wait for that as well.
> 1621698839 985803 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd: https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.libera.chat
> 1621698852 771491 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ACTION knows what kiwiirc is
> 1621698861 324067 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I can't use kiwi, I'm slightly allergic. :/
> 1621698863 56025 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ACTION was making a bad joke
> 1621698877 479386 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ACTION is here noow also
> 1621698920 375205 PRIVMSG #esoteric : kiwi is for guests
> 1621698928 626699 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you don't have to use it
> 1621698931 947482 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Should've taught that bridge about CTCP ACTION while I was mucking with it.
> 1621698978 411788 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07FlipJump14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83188&oldid=83003 5* 03Tomhe 5* (+13) 10/* Bit-specific */ Bit-specific changed to Words-value (aligned syntax update).
> 1621699017 917840 PRIVMSG #esoteric : guys, does /whois show my "Actual hostname" for you?
> 1621699038 435920 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not to me.
> 1621699070 146781 PRIVMSG #esoteric : okay, since I see that field and could not be sure
> 1621699106 3124 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: yes, the irc server tells you your real hostname even while you're cloaked, because you're inside the cloak
> 1621699121 208937 PRIVMSG #esoteric : this sounds awful
> 1621699152 630614 PRIVMSG #esoteric : because клоака is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca
> 1621699285 238368 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's a physical constraint. if you wanted to see your cloak, you would have to move your eyes outside the cloak, and then people could see your eyes.
> 1621699368 963567 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you still want that, make another connection to the server
> 1621699391 795322 PRIVMSG #esoteric : uh can't you just
> 1621699394 116133 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ask nickserv
> 1621699400 167546 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd ..
> 1621699405 264811 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `/msg nickserv info USERNAME HERE`
> 1621699406 36950 PRIVMSG #esoteric : /msg? No such file or directory
> 1621699415 581799 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungot
> 1621699417 341521 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fungot: asd
> 1621699419 855081 PRIVMSG #esoteric : river: /home/> _
> 1621699453 511457 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd: you could ask HackEso
> 1621699466 622173 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ``` echo "$IRC_HOST"
> 1621699467 528072 PRIVMSG #esoteric : catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu
> 1621699473 349943 PRIVMSG #esoteric : true
> 1621699474 826235 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, right, fungot. Hmm.
> 1621699505 98503 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess I should keep it on the side that has more people planning to use it, which might be this one.
> 1621699511 524442 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd: or /msg perlbot arg &h
> 1621699523 708927 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can ask any sufficiently powerful bot
> 1621699529 160293 PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Fungot is missing!", a hit educational game for the SNES.
> 1621699536 992712 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can you run multiple Fungotia?
> 1621699568 803122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Almost. I'd just need to never run ^save on one of them, or configure different state files.
> 1621699580 842668 PRIVMSG #esoteric : But I don't know if the world is ready for more than one fungot.
> 1621699580 901573 PRIVMSG #esoteric : don't let funge start growing
> 1621699592 878535 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't think we are ready for that
> 1621699663 904891 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder if there were IRC viruses
> 1621699677 700290 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that find bots with backdoors to replicate
> 1621699688 919582 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: there were at least malware, not necessarily virus
> 1621699703 943241 PRIVMSG #esoteric : nakilon: not targeting bots, but very buggy IRC clients
> 1621699713 718216 PRIVMSG #esoteric : perhaps also targeting bots, I'm not sure
> 1621699733 378690 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Eggdrop was so popular, I'm sure there must've been a vulnerability in there somewhere.
> 1621699734 444703 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess you could find some of the bot loops viruses
> 1621699755 552035 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i still wonder how fast a bot that's programmed to join any channel mentioned near it would spread across a network
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> 1621699812 850058 PRIVMSG #esoteric : perhaps there is a limit of channels you can join
> 1621699821 999403 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there is, i forget what it is
> 1621699823 921720 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `CHANLIMIT=#:250`
> 1621699824 752955 PRIVMSG #esoteric : CHANLIMIT=#:250`? No such file or directory
> 1621699830 461152 PRIVMSG #esoteric : but it's pretty high and you could simply open a new connection
> 1621699850 737460 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not sure if it's that specific limit, I just had the connection-open numerics from fungot's debug screen.
> 1621699850 980707 PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: how come there's a 3rd arguement now? http://mumble.net/campbell/ tmp/ restrict.html for what i need
> 1621699886 219701 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd: you could just use alis to find channels
> 1621699893 803355 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's not all channels, because channels can be hidden from that, but still
> 1621699897 228941 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes, but i meant what i asked
> 1621699898 647329 PRIVMSG #esoteric : :P
> 1621699916 602421 PRIVMSG #esoteric : well let's see
> 1621699917 240664 PRIVMSG #esoteric : while I was tracking twitch I had an idea to note the raids after the stream (that's a thing when streamer leaves and moves all his viewers to some another stream, keeping the audience within the website and making a social connetion with a selected target in that way)
> 1621699949 404349 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so it would be possible to slowly build a graph of people who tend to raid each other
> 1621700028 774931 PRIVMSG #esoteric : . o O ( Streamers who raided X also raided Y and Z. )
> 1621700049 917082 PRIVMSG #esoteric : is alis here too?
> 1621700068 885379 PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes there's an alis
> 1621700103 990308 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I made a "who's having an affair with who" chart for a... well, let's call it a forum, once, based on people mentioning the names of other members.
> 1621700106 513099 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Less obviously, Sigyn is ozone, eir is litharge.
> 1621700129 802352 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Someone's name was a pretty common word, they got an edge with everyone in the graph.
> 1621700138 985544 PRIVMSG #esoteric : lmao
> 1621700139 563240 PRIVMSG #esoteric : GraphViz was having problems rendering it, but that's not a surprise.
> 1621700170 146882 PRIVMSG #esoteric : let's speed up its bootstrapping. dear bot who joins every channel mentioned, please JOIN
> 1621700173 157167 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ##chat,##electronics,##hardware,##math,##politics,##programming,#ansible,#bash,#bitcoin,#c,#C++,#centos,#datahoarder,#debian,#elixir,#emacs,#fedora,#freebsd,#gentoo,#gentoo-chat,#git,#go-nuts,#guix,#hamradio,#haskell,#idleRPG,#ircv3,#irssi,#javascript,#libera,#libera-dev,#libera-offtopic,#libera-overflow,#lineageos,#linux,#lisp,#lobsters,#matrix,#musl,#networking,#nixos,#openbsd,#osdev,#perl,#postgresql,
> 1621700179 159374 PRIVMSG #esoteric : #python,#raspberrypi,#reddit-sysadmin,#reprap,#rockylinux,#security,#sway,#thelongue,#ubuntu,#vim,#voidlinux,#weechat,#wikimedia-operations,#wikipedia-en,#windows,#zig,#znc
> 1621700210 964945 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'd write such a bot but i feel i'd make the admins annoyed with me
> 1621700411 692173 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it’s a bit interesting that all ideal triangles are congruent
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> 1621700521 967202 PRIVMSG #esoteric : noncongruence starts with quadrilaterals in dimension 2, though I suspect non-planar quadrilaterals are again all congruent?..
> 1621700546 828134 PRIVMSG #esoteric : cd: you'd have to make it leave channels that are almost empty or else your join quota will fill up quickly
> 1621700838 217051 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `python3 -cprint("#,"+",".join(["#%c" % k for k in range(33,126) if k != 44]))
> 1621700839 82334 PRIVMSG #esoteric :