< 1621641991 785819 :FreeFull!~freefull@37-247-94-203.natip.skydsl.eu QUIT : < 1621643159 941452 :Gartaver-t!~Gartaver-@ip-230-2.nltel.ru JOIN :##esoteric < 1621643172 81774 :Gartaver-t!~Gartaver-@ip-230-2.nltel.ru QUIT :K-Lined < 1621643302 169967 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I guess the people who join and then get K-Lined immediately are spam attempts? < 1621643667 447012 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :fizzie: possibly < 1621643723 939500 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :that's I think the most common reason for k-lines < 1621644743 95195 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I fiddled together a command-controlled nick-based ignore list for the bridge (so that if someone spams on one side, anyone around -- even on the other side -- can make it stop) but I guess the concern is, if you get k-lined very quickly, maybe just forwarding a single spam message over will be enough. < 1621645072 26266 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I create an IRC bot > 1621645215 571218 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83162&oldid=83161 5* 03Batata 5* (+48) 10 > 1621645259 174058 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:Batata14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83163&oldid=83162 5* 03Batata 5* (+2) 10 < 1621645686 865469 :u0_a61!~u0_a61@2601:14b:4400:8850:78ad:bff:fef4:8c3e QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621645852 80541 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :you could skip the messages that are sent within 5 seconds after channel join AND within 5 seconds before quit < 1621646585 467885 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Mm, that'd involve work. Maybe we can just give it a go and see what happens. < 1621646758 387233 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Move fast and break things, or how did it go. I'm sure something will go wrong in an amusing way rather than in a painful way. < 1621646814 683035 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :##esoteric < 1621646858 729493 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I think there's about 25% likelihood it will do anything meaningful. < 1621646887 949807 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :On the other hand, if it does work, it'll be the first time fungot says anything over on this side. > 1621646920 218181 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : Oh, except it won't, because fungot ignores esowiki for obvious reasons. Heh, didn't think of that. > 1621646920 561643 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : fizzie: i think that honourable members are representatives of the european union, i.e. the problem is not that people are still listening. in those circumstances, as often as is necessary. < 1621646936 960947 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Well, it worked indirectly, I guess. < 1621647017 235690 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :If anyone wants to turn that off for any reason at all, just say "brctl: ignore freenode/*" and "brctl: ignore libera/*", that should stop it from doing anything. < 1621647062 148086 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG ##esoteric :neeeeat. < 1621647104 913384 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I'm sure there's a corner case beyond that of the spam thing that we didn't think of that'll ruin everything. < 1621647113 440878 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I should probably check that the logging is still working, at least. < 1621647188 510674 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG ##esoteric :How do I opt out of being bridged? < 1621647196 232223 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :brctl: ignore shachaf > 1621647196 232251 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :brctl: ignoring < 1621647203 32247 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :brctl: ignore freenode/shachaf > 1621647203 32286 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :brctl: ignoring < 1621647206 384090 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :brctl: ignored > 1621647206 384124 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :brctl: Ignore list: freenode/shachaf libera/shachaf < 1621647218 930027 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Sounds good, thanks. < 1621647321 972534 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :fungot? < 1621647330 35241 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG ##esoteric :fungooooot. > 1621647331 754668 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : Yeah, I guess those brctl commands didn't show up on this side. Thinking about these things is hard. < 1621647341 390008 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :oh it will be ignoring esowiki over there > 1621647358 324893 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : Yeah, you have to invoke it over here, then the replies will be piped over. > 1621647374 76682 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : fungot > 1621647374 572665 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : int-e: mr president, i would also like to say something which the european union, the forests are often the very ones which do actually protect the interests of safety to subject aircraft control and monitoring of that strategy. i am sure that you are right to say that the commission is unwilling to apply this decision retroactively and share the satisfaction of everyone's needs. regarding the recent agreement made over the nex < 1621647409 960085 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG ##esoteric :so what's the plan for the bridge, are y'all moving to libera or are you maintaining a presence. < 1621647455 208329 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :the resulting logs will not be confusing at all > 1621647461 125821 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : у / ý / ÿ / ŷ / ƴ / ȳ / ɏ / ỳ / ỹ / ỿ / ẏ / ẙ / ỵ / ỷ < 1621647463 994009 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :у / ý / ÿ / ŷ / ƴ / ȳ / ɏ / ỳ / ỹ / ỿ / ẏ / ẙ / ỵ / ỷ < 1621647490 640476 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :As for plans, I don't really know yet for sure. I guess we're kind of exploring the configuration space. < 1621647541 379123 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG ##esoteric :fair. < 1621647543 367920 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :There's a little bit of talk at https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal#Freenode_and_the_future if you missed that link. < 1621647571 55836 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I had it in my history but haven't checked it. < 1621647580 878794 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Not many comments. < 1621647856 759991 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I think personally I'd be up for migrating here as the sort of main location, but I don't know how maybe-less-active-right-now-but-still-well-established channel regulars feel. < 1621647956 974736 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :btw, velik is logging too < 1621647981 853732 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1621648018 195517 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse.net QUIT :Quit: Blame iczero something happened < 1621648018 258401 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Quit: iovoid has quit! < 1621648022 655737 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi TOPIC ##esoteric :Welcome to the something something esoteric programming | https://esolangs.org | this channel is logged | and bridged, see "brctl: help" to opt out < 1621648212 688786 :user3456!user3456@gateway02.insomnia247.nl JOIN :##esoteric < 1621648394 30441 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :int-e: Re logs, yeah, especially if opting out becomes commonplace. Well, we can give up on the bridge if it gets too much, just couldn't resist. < 1621648439 522563 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :(Also, the ignore list is just in-memory at this point.) < 1621648730 780819 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse.net JOIN :##esoteric < 1621648952 826219 :pikhq!sid394595@highgate.irccloud.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :a bridge, you say < 1621648976 477213 :user3456!user3456@gateway02.insomnia247.nl QUIT :Changing host < 1621648976 555626 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 JOIN :##esoteric < 1621648992 798626 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :##esoteric > 1621649020 158730 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : yes, a bridge < 1621649048 197060 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Over troubled water, no doubt. < 1621649086 400727 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu TOPIC ##esoteric :Welcome to the liberated church of esoteric programming programming proselytization, propagation, and pronunciation! | https://esolangs.org | this channel is logged | and bridged, see "brctl: help" to opt out < 1621649130 169697 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu TOPIC ##esoteric :Welcome to the liberated church of esoteric programming proselytization, propagation, and pronunciation! | https://esolangs.org | this channel is logged | and bridged, see "brctl: help" to opt out < 1621649266 950969 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Hmm, if I turn off windows_auto_renumber, I think I could maybe convince irssi to give the "parallel universe" channels window numbers that are, say, offset by 100 from the ones I'm used to, and that way remember what the numbers mean. > 1621649318 693116 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:AndrewBayly14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83164 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+58) 10Created page with "Hi, I'm Andrew. Here are the esolangs that I have created:" < 1621649512 846097 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse.net QUIT :Quit: Blame iczero something happened > 1621649564 479829 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:AndrewBayly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83165&oldid=83164 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+447) 10 > 1621649601 453064 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:AndrewBayly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83166&oldid=83165 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+0) 10 < 1621649765 789772 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse.net JOIN :##esoteric < 1621650414 550189 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :fizzie: you can also put multiple channels into the same window if you wish, though you may have to change the formatting to distinguish them then < 1621650450 831508 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :oh hey, you enabled a bridge to freenode? > 1621650454 970885 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : does it work both directions? < 1621650461 226277 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :yes it does, jonas < 1621650553 540704 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :" I'm sure there's a corner case beyond that of the spam thing that we didn't think of that'll ruin everything." => bot loops probably < 1621650579 698926 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Yeah; I don't know if it's a good idea, but it's there for now. At least a cross-network botloop would be somewhat novel. < 1621650643 700180 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :There's a few "brctl:"-prefixed commands that anyone can use to manage which nicknames are ignored, and as a special case * will match all nicks if you need to turn it off completely and I'm not around. < 1621650650 141129 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :brctl: help > 1621650650 141157 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :brctl: usage: "brctl: ignored" (to list), "brctl: ignore [net/]nick" (to add) or "brctl: unignore [net/]nick" (to remove); network defaults to your own; nick = * matches any message < 1621650690 812171 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Taneb: as for OFTC and the +s flag, I believe that's as much of a policy as freenode's ## prefix in channel names < 1621650715 530343 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :`? log < 1621650717 661934 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :​#esoteric channel logs: https://esolangs.org/logs/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/esologs/ < 1621650820 7003 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :##esoteric < 1621650821 611165 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :``` echo "let's see what the bridge does with long lines. they should just be truncated."; seq 999 < 1621650823 256192 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :let's see what the bridge does with long lines. they should just be truncated. \ 1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 6 \ 7 \ 8 \ 9 \ 10 \ 11 \ 12 \ 13 \ 14 \ 15 \ 16 \ 17 \ 18 \ 19 \ 20 \ 21 \ 22 \ 23 \ 24 \ 25 \ 26 \ 27 \ 28 \ 29 \ 30 \ 31 \ 32 \ 33 \ 34 \ 35 \ 36 \ 37 \ 38 \ 39 \ 40 \ 41 \ 42 \ 43 \ 44 \ 45 \ 46 \ 47 \ 48 \ 49 \ 50 \ 51 \ 52 \ 53 \ 54 \ 55 \ 56 \ 57 \ 58 \ 59 \ 60 \ 61 \ 62 \ 63 \ 64 \ 65 \ 66 \ 67 \ 68 \ 69 \ 70 \ 71 \ 72 \ 73 \ 74 \ 75 \ 76 \ 77 \ 78 < 1621650823 740641 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :lambdabot: > 1 < 1621650861 239499 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :lambdabot: @run 1 < 1621650862 843951 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG ##esoteric : 1 > 1621650895 186502 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : lambdabot: @run 2 > 1621650896 628224 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : 2 > 1621650905 797186 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : okay, good. > 1621651879 930897 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :
ACTION waves to the bridge
< 1621651894 250090 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I guess clients might differ in how they render that < 1621651985 313518 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu NOTICE ##esoteric :Hmm. AACTION waves to the bridgeA with inverted As. < 1621652139 628635 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :. < 1621652168 231926 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :int-e: how did you send that without the bridge forwarding it? < 1621652293 685610 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu NOTICE ##esoteric :IRC has two kinds of messages, PRIVMSG (ordinary messages, usually /msg) and NOTICE (secondary messages, /notice) ... both types can have a channel as the target (here, ##esoteric), and the bridge only forwards thr former type. So what I'm doing is /msg ##esoteric <...> < 1621652325 758871 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu NOTICE ##esoteric :Hah, /notice at the end, of course. Muscle memory took over, or something. > 1621652344 116532 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : Why is there a github for logs? > 1621652383 988488 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : `? why > 1621652385 157699 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : why? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ > 1621652473 918288 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : Sgeo: no particular reason; the attitude is, they're there, they're public, so they should be listed in the topic < 1621652496 703814 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 NOTICE ##esoteric :like this? < 1621652510 116422 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu NOTICE ##esoteric :that worked < 1621653464 854806 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :The thing with notices is, the client-side presentation is all over the place. Especially in irssi, where they get the channel name for no reason. < 1621653481 142053 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I did consider forwarding them too, though. < 1621653501 526231 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :In Hexchat, it also shows the channel name < 1621653513 590010 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :like this: [11:01:50] -18int-e/22##esoteric- that worked < 1621653581 933768 :alex-resist!~alex-resi@183.88.219.186 JOIN :##esoteric < 1621653582 15715 :alex-resist!~alex-resi@183.88.219.186 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :https://youtu.be/T0NYZDGTA5g the l0de radio hour is live! IRC's FINEST HOUR, the late night call in show where you are the star! Call in live, tonight's episl0de: A Small White Dog < 1621653585 267279 :alex-resist!~alex-resi@183.88.219.186 QUIT :K-Lined < 1621653616 102148 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Well, the first forwarded spam. < 1621653640 398141 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Technically all bot replies are supposed to be NOTICEs, and no bot should ever automatically reply to a NOTICE. But nobody actually follows the first half of that. It would entirely prevent botloops, though. > 1621653704 442320 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : At least libera.chat's antispam kicked in < 1621653733 831091 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :RFC 2812: "The difference between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies MUST NEVER be sent in response to a NOTICE message. -- This is typically used by services, and automatons (clients with either an AI or other interactive program controlling their actions)." < 1621653792 886433 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :well that went out of the window when mIRC came along, didn't it < 1621653801 166406 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :and turned notices into popups < 1621653830 401119 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 NOTICE ##esoteric :test < 1621653871 306163 :shikhin!~shikhin@user/shikhin PRIVMSG ##esoteric :irssi hilights me on channel wide notices too. < 1621653872 209040 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :(that's probably, and hopefully, no longer the case) < 1621653942 828444 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :shikhin: check the /hilight settings? I'd expect that notices are mentioned somewhere in their explicitely then, but I'm not sure < 1621653947 192882 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :their->there < 1621654885 270339 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Can I also have any messages mentioning my name be ignored? < 1621654967 466537 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :vi < 1621654976 154270 :vi!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :vim < 1621654985 800186 :vim!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :emacs < 1621654997 492612 :emacs!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :libera < 1621655006 925493 :libera!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :ed < 1621655028 18666 :ed!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :user3456 < 1621655070 818492 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :npp < 1621655154 630740 :npp!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :sudo < 1621655190 280787 :sudo!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :su < 1621655284 746826 :su!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :user3456 < 1621655370 205102 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :visudo < 1621655405 770187 :visudo!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :dd < 1621655422 82331 :dd!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :cron < 1621655436 110518 :cron!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :user3456 < 1621655597 560035 :d33cee!~d33cee@wsip-24-234-234-10.lv.lv.cox.net JOIN :##esoteric < 1621655597 639788 :d33cee!~d33cee@wsip-24-234-234-10.lv.lv.cox.net PRIVMSG ##esoteric :https://youtu.be/T0NYZDGTA5g the l0de radio hour is live! IRC's FINEST HOUR, the late night call in show where you are the star! Call in live, tonight's episl0de: A Small White Dog < 1621655599 279149 :d33cee!~d33cee@wsip-24-234-234-10.lv.lv.cox.net QUIT :K-Lined < 1621655924 310241 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 NOTICE ##esoteric :Sorry about the nickname change spam < 1621656965 273854 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :{} < 1621656977 477064 :{}!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :cd < 1621658372 353260 :mac_mario!~mac_mario@210.63.218.44 JOIN :##esoteric < 1621658373 639427 :mac_mario!~mac_mario@210.63.218.44 QUIT :K-Lined < 1621658681 602061 :jonsykkle!~jonsykkle@49.48.146.186 JOIN :##esoteric < 1621658681 779335 :jonsykkle!~jonsykkle@49.48.146.186 QUIT :K-Lined < 1621658727 170038 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1621658985 217247 :finkata!~finkata@61.58.191.218 JOIN :##esoteric < 1621658992 736128 :finkata!~finkata@61.58.191.218 QUIT :K-Lined > 1621663986 969166 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Assign14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83167 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+2258) 10Created page with "Assign is an esoteric programming language that is a subset of JavaScript. In Assign there are no assignment, increment or decrement operators. ==Strategy== I found that to w..." > 1621664053 67978 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Assign14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83168&oldid=83167 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+82) 10 > 1621664110 129884 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:AndrewBayly14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83169&oldid=83166 5* 03AndrewBayly 5* (+88) 10 > 1621664427 703646 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Kwes 5* 10New user account < 1621664501 940392 :DCatcher!~DCatcher@190.129.173.193 JOIN :##esoteric < 1621664504 890387 :DCatcher!~DCatcher@190.129.173.193 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :/!\ THIS CHANNEL HAS MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #HAMRADIO /!\ < 1621664506 496271 :DCatcher!~DCatcher@190.129.173.193 QUIT :K-Lined < 1621664621 478710 :sprock!~sprocklem@user/sprock JOIN :##esoteric > 1621664634 967367 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83170&oldid=83153 5* 03Kwes 5* (+185) 10 > 1621664669 22624 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:Kwes14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83171 5* 03Kwes 5* (+12) 10Created page with "making stuff" > 1621665185 488835 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Yogurt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83172&oldid=83141 5* 03Ilaylevy 5* (-4) 10 < 1621665387 671395 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I mean. no? < 1621665940 255741 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :i'm a bit confused where those bots come from. like, is it someone from new freenode to annoy people that switched? < 1621666095 333171 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Taneb: Haneb < 1621666562 656762 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG ##esoteric :it's very similar to previous spam waves... feels like just people who enjoy getting people to react to it < 1621667409 54713 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :mm, trolls < 1621667437 596668 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :the conspiracist in me thinks all this drama is manufactured to benefit Discord < 1621667446 687443 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :chaos, Discord, confusion, bureaucracy, aftermath < 1621667461 574520 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :also I'm still in freenode #esoteric and it's "fun" to see my messages mirrored there > 1621667469 62791 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : dongs < 1621667559 625996 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Confusion would be a good name for a discord competitor < 1621667710 140993 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621667879 342782 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :yes < 1621667939 841251 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :i mean one of their major competitors is Slack < 1621667949 157356 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :which I assume is a reference to the Church of the SubGenius, an offshoot of Discordianism < 1621667955 981858 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :which came first I'm not sure < 1621667997 75560 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :but this is one of these "holy shit, the people in my cohort of awkward weird nerds grew up and are running the world now" things < 1621668033 428130 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :meanwhile I briefly worked for an also-ran web chat service based on Zephyr (named Zulip, now open source) and got fired for being depressed before my shares vested < 1621668036 464050 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :c'est la vie. < 1621668879 961734 :vrakfall!~vrakfall@NK210-202-217-193.vdsl.static.apol.com.tw JOIN :##esoteric < 1621668880 43670 :vrakfall!~vrakfall@NK210-202-217-193.vdsl.static.apol.com.tw PRIVMSG ##esoteric :/!\ THIS CHANNEL HAS MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #HAMRADIO /!\ < 1621668882 469853 :vrakfall!~vrakfall@NK210-202-217-193.vdsl.static.apol.com.tw PRIVMSG ##esoteric :/!\ JOIN #HAMRADIO TODAY. THIS CHANNEL HAS MOVED TO IRC.LIBERA.CHAT #HAMRADIO /!\ < 1621668890 366908 :vrakfall!~vrakfall@NK210-202-217-193.vdsl.static.apol.com.tw QUIT :K-Lined < 1621669708 458034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG ##esoteric :
ACTION morning!
< 1621670171 792401 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :##esoteric < 1621671030 754535 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :good morning < 1621671037 555294 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :relay bot not so good with CTCP ACTION < 1621671168 953170 :j4cbo!sid186930@brockwell.irccloud.com JOIN :##esoteric < 1621672561 222098 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG ##esoteric :keegan: how's it going > 1621672680 542902 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : fizzie also you can blacklist the "/!\" substring < 1621674246 905641 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :keegan: You can opt out from being bridged if you like, by saying "brctl: ignore keegan" on this side. < 1621674370 431335 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I'll filter out /!\ though that's pretty specific to this particular spam wave. < 1621674401 215367 :j4cbo!sid186930@brockwell.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621674413 51496 :j4cbo!sid186930@id-186930.brockwell.irccloud.com JOIN :##esoteric < 1621674447 45195 :pikhq_!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com JOIN :##esoteric < 1621674457 671695 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I faintly remember some #hamradio-themed spam from time before the split, wonder why that one gets picked on so much. < 1621674457 709844 :pikhq!sid394595@highgate.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621674457 958000 :pikhq_!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com NICK :pikhq < 1621674481 48637 :jinn_!~jinn@d.jinn.army JOIN :##esoteric < 1621674542 388382 :jinn!~jinn@d.jinn.army QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds > 1621674728 51340 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Hmmmmmmmm 5* 10New user account < 1621674758 996951 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :##esoteric < 1621674795 645429 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Turns out /!\ is a bad word and shouldn't be forwarded. (Just testing.) < 1621674880 900103 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG ##esoteric :/!\ < 1621674887 600446 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG ##esoteric :/⚠\ > 1621675141 742811 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83173&oldid=83170 5* 03Hmmmmmmmm 5* (+213) 10Add my user introduction > 1621675146 618150 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:Hmmmmmmmm14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83174 5* 03Hmmmmmmmm 5* (+185) 10Make my own account page < 1621677067 155916 :blooser-M!~blooser-M@103.89.170.158 JOIN :##esoteric < 1621677068 367298 :blooser-M!~blooser-M@103.89.170.158 QUIT :K-Lined > 1621677247 305262 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : I'll suspend my twitch IRC analytics project and probably delete my account since they made another post where they continue falsely accusing their users in "hating women" to censor the fact that they became a platform for prostitution > 1621677428 695941 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : that was the only network where I currently saw the Tags IRC v3 feature < 1621677685 407669 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :18:34:24 If IRC had past message editing capabilities, I'd make that thing collapse consecutive edits the same way the recent changes page does. < 1621677719 534437 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG ##esoteric :https://ircv3.net/ - IRCv3 Features - Grouping related messages to simplify collapsing and display of those messages to users. < 1621677877 998307 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :##esoteric < 1621677889 626608 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Yeah, I saw that mentioned somewhere. < 1621678126 470961 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Changing host < 1621678126 520460 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon JOIN :##esoteric < 1621678445 651977 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :this editing/collapsing stuff changes things a lot < 1621678477 692745 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :we are used to that if we open the logs we see the same that we see in chat < 1621678518 709749 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :now we have to add some post processing to convert logs to "real" chat log < 1621678618 485866 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :and how are we supposed to split logs by days if there was a message collapse over the 00:00 < 1621680066 841132 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621680263 280577 :topdownjimmy!~topdownji@ip2504f9c0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de JOIN :##esoteric < 1621680275 514918 :topdownjimmy!~topdownji@ip2504f9c0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de QUIT :K-Lined > 1621682230 118369 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* 10New user account < 1621682304 110694 :ThriftyDillo!~ThriftyDi@114-36-101-127.dynamic-ip.hinet.net JOIN :##esoteric > 1621682312 955857 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83175&oldid=83173 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+233) 10/* Introductions */ < 1621682316 148864 :ThriftyDillo!~ThriftyDi@114-36-101-127.dynamic-ip.hinet.net QUIT :K-Lined < 1621682525 602423 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :int-e: So I went ahead and had a pre-discussion with Libera staff, and they're okay with the notion of having an 'esolangs' community at #esolangs, but having #esoteric forward to it for "quite some time", which I think probably means "up until a group of aspiring magicians wants to claim it for their rites". I think I'd be happy with that? People can still keep making the jokes on the rare occasion < 1621682531 601408 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :someone comes in confused. < 1621682596 79379 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh JOIN :##esoteric > 1621682746 380617 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83176&oldid=79839 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+732) 10Example added: Truth machine < 1621682756 745405 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :int-e: So I went ahead and had a pre-discussion with Libera staff, and they're okay with the notion of having an 'esolangs' community at #esolangs, but having #esoteric forward to it for "quite some time", which I think probably means "up until a group of aspiring magicians wants to claim it for their rites". I think I'd be happy with that? People can still keep making the jokes on the rare occasion < 1621682762 833960 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :someone comes in confused. > 1621683138 516171 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83177&oldid=83176 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+269) 10/* Parts */ Disambiguations > 1621683160 941384 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83178&oldid=83177 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (-2) 10/* Parts */ Format error > 1621683960 673910 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:HaleyHalcyon14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83179 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+1753) 10Created page with "== MarioLANG test cases == The code is run on the sandbox at TIO.run. === Multiple elevators on the same X coordinate === ==== Code ==== > :! "===== > ! ==..." < 1621684578 224091 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :do I understand right that it's practically impossible to add a language to https://tio.run/# ? because the last commit I see in their repo 2 years ago and there are hanging pull requests in both repos < 1621684919 978694 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :it would be nice if there was some frontend for arbitrary languages execution so I would need only provide a backend < 1621684930 549784 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :I've heard of TIO, but I don't think I've ever actually used it. < 1621684933 99593 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Lovely language list, though: probably the first time I've seen Quadrefunge, Quintefunge, Sexefunge and Septefunge mentioned anywhere. > 1621684958 710810 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:HaleyHalcyon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83180&oldid=83179 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+873) 10/* MarioLANG test cases */ > 1621685157 386612 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07User:HaleyHalcyon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83181&oldid=83180 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+120) 10/* Wall/floor interchangeability */ < 1621685185 569928 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :looks like they were mirroring every language https://github.com/TryItOnline?q=&type=&language=&sort= > 1621685207 881569 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07MarioLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83182&oldid=83178 5* 03HaleyHalcyon 5* (+74) 10/* Instructions to Mario */ < 1621686206 701984 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :##esoteric > 1621686786 51950 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83183&oldid=83115 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+690) 10/* Freenode and the future */ On community registration. < 1621687095 104881 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG ##esoteric :nakilon: I wonder if with webassembly and such it'd be viable to make something like this that doesnt need server resources (outside hosting the files somewhere), runs all the interpreters in the browser < 1621687233 114212 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Kind of reminds me of how the Internet Archive has all those old pieces of old software in a playable state by running the emulation in the browser. < 1621687949 572339 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :should be easily possible. there are cross compiled linuxes that run entirelyy in browsers < 1621688236 963940 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :fizzie: sure, we can go to #esolangs . it matches the esolangs.org domain name that points to the wiki. > 1621688272 880684 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : nakilon: re TIO yeah, the chatroom's starboard https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/44255 explains why > 1621688312 636860 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : fungot, what brand of DVD demagnetizer do you recommend? > 1621688313 212043 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : b_jonas: mr president, i should like us to be very significant and important, being adopted in due course should that appear necessary. finally, our obligation, as it sometimes does not immediately become obligatory and an essential service. with regard to these circumstances it is believed that this issue is already covered by the definition of the fields of finance for innovation and growth. > 1621688367 873481 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : "it would be nice if there was some frontend for arbitrary languages execution so I would need only provide a backend" you mean you'd be willing to host it? > 1621688404 547107 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : i assume the frontend is somewhere in the github < 1621688420 963041 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :you mean like llvm? < 1621688480 756519 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :nakilon: you could just have it run an interpreter, since you have a high chance that you can find an interpreter ran in a language that TIO can already run < 1621688518 835464 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :you may need to do some porting, but probably not more porting than you'd need to do to run the same interpreter in browser client side > 1621688799 396982 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : i recently learnt of a wasm interpreter for k https://ktye.github.io/, for which i believe the author wrote their own c-dialect to wasm converter https://github.com/ktye/i/blob/master/_/i3/w/readme < 1621689014 358314 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh NICK :O2 < 1621689032 13599 :O2!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh NICK :tech_exorcist < 1621689039 332085 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh PART :##esoteric < 1621691904 740213 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1621691916 755437 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi JOIN :##esoteric > 1621692215 78780 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03T0mi10 5* 10New user account > 1621692437 957216 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83184&oldid=82736 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+215) 10Add input, Truth-machine, and cat program > 1621692630 663808 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83185&oldid=83184 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-66) 10/* Examples */ Remove annoying ZWSPs, and prevent them > 1621692781 251753 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83186&oldid=83185 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-3) 10Remove the last ZWSP > 1621692860 588315 PRIVMSG ##esoteric :14[[07Clockwise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83187&oldid=83186 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+51) 10/* Commands */ Bangyen's suggestion < 1621693342 686839 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com JOIN :##esoteric < 1621693370 961644 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :fizzie: sounds reasonable to me, and about what I'd expect from policy etc. < 1621695549 782855 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1621695883 592026 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :b_jonas I mean I just need a frontend for RASEL; don't want to reinvent this webpage with forms and stuff < 1621695942 849161 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :the backend can be trivially done serverless in Cloud Run < 1621696006 501241 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :and even moderated call rate via additional layer with a lightweight webserver that would track how often it's being spinned < 1621696009 752773 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :##esoteric < 1621696226 592664 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG ##esoteric :TIL Excel has lambda for some time now < 1621696232 968126 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG ##esoteric :and let! < 1621696248 62145 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG ##esoteric :https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/lambda-the-ultimatae-excel-worksheet-function > 1621696266 251914 PRIVMSG ##esoteric : oh, so bridge is working? < 1621696559 161939 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Yep, though I think I'll be moving this end of it to `#esolangs`. < 1621696568 427034 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :arseniiv: I heard about that. I don't think it's a big deal. we always had excel 3 named functions where you just slap the expressions you want to evaluate into cells of a macro worksheet, with possibly local names they assign to, assign a name marked as a macro function to their first cell, and then if you call that function from a formula, it evaluates the cells in order from top to bottom, unless < 1621696574 563019 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :you call GOTO or similar functions. there is one serious limitation of course: whe a macro function (which you can call from expressions in cells) is executed, unlike when a macro procedure (which you can't call that way) is executed, most builtins that cause side-effects, such as change the formula of a cell, have their side effects silently suppressed, so it's hard to cause side effects from a macro < 1621696580 572127 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :function other than changing the values (not the formulas) of the cells of that macro function (other formulas can then refer to those values) < 1621696652 725198 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :the main way that macro worksheets differ from normal worksheets btw is that on normal worksheets, all cells have their value recomputed automatcally every time their formula or a cell they recursively depend on changes (you can turn this off, but that's unusual), while in a macro worksheet, cells are evaluated only when a macro is running and its program counter points to that cell < 1621696691 135740 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :didn't use Excel since like 2012 < 1621696693 834512 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :TODO for self: document esowiki (the bot) on the wiki, especially its ignore statement < 1621696714 58168 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :nakilon: I said "forever". this existed since the earliest time I've seen Excel. < 1621696737 364698 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :Google Docs Spreadsheets have Google Apps Script that can do all the calculations and integrate with the rest of Docs and Google services < 1621696778 117865 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG ##esoteric :interesting, didn’t read anywhere about macro worksheets < 1621696795 414868 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :not only it allows defining functions, those "macros" can be ran on their own on trigger or schedule, centralised, no edit wars < 1621696829 641517 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :people literally run the whole businesses in Spreadsheets with GAS since then < 1621696856 290356 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :schools, some shops, warehouses < 1621696886 109183 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG ##esoteric :arseniiv: it's not a story the Jedi would tell you < 1621696896 382723 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG ##esoteric :then it got all integrated with Bigdata and other data processing services of Google with bells and whistles < 1621696925 996470 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1621697310 75429 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1621697325 694737 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1621697372 494713 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Loading configurations without killing the process would be far too bourgeoisie thing to allow.) < 1621697860 26334 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon JOIN :#esolangs < 1621697948 162150 :pikhq!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621697982 194290 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esolangs < 1621698022 317062 :pikhq!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com NICK :pikhq_ < 1621698031 542693 :pikhq_!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com NICK :pikhq < 1621698060 532286 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it bridged? > 1621698071 959222 PRIVMSG #esolangs : yeah it is. funny. < 1621698081 470438 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esolangs < 1621698096 860321 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: help > 1621698096 860362 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: see "brctl: help ignore" (filter by nick) and "brctl: help filter" (filter by text content) for the two available commands > 1621698100 652416 PRIVMSG #esolangs : semibridge < 1621698105 649643 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :where is this bridged < 1621698117 596954 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: to freenode/#esoteric < 1621698124 354456 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1621698144 955765 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`ping < 1621698147 8330 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :pong < 1621698173 744772 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu JOIN :#esolangs < 1621698198 18313 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de JOIN :#esolangs < 1621698204 808823 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION weeps for #esoteric
< 1621698436 348588 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` (quote '#esoteric'; grWp '#esoteric') | wc -l # int-e: at least we'll still have all these references for who knows how long < 1621698437 636340 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :56 < 1621698618 959238 :river!~river@user/river JOIN :#esolangs < 1621698627 133369 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :how about cloaks < 1621698630 16874 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`env < 1621698630 841537 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :PATH=/hackenv/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ TERM=linux \ HOME=/tmp \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ IRC_NICK=b_jonas \ IRC_IDENT=~x \ IRC_HOST=catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu \ IRC_COMMAND=PRIVMSG \ IRC_TARGET=#esolangs \ IRC_MESSAGE=`env \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 < 1621698637 752857 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, we're on #esolangs now < 1621698671 709715 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :is esoteric deprecated? < 1621698679 31467 :shikhin!~shikhin@user/shikhin JOIN :#esolangs < 1621698679 925116 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course, as fizzie said, the move won't officially be official until we edit https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Community_portal < 1621698740 802044 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and we might want to wait until the admins get an official webchat working, rather than using kiwi < 1621698785 827607 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION stops munching on kiwi and hides the skins
< 1621698788 215261 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the name "libera" still sounds stupid to me because it sounds like the diaper brand "Libero" < 1621698790 176143 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm? kiwi? what kiwi < 1621698823 192807 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For the community registration, what I have is a "verbal" ack (plus settings for this channel), I've not gotten a reply yet to the formal email. So we might wait for that as well. < 1621698836 796381 :wib_jonas!b03f0c01@107.161.19.109 JOIN :#esolangs < 1621698839 985758 :wib_jonas!b03f0c01@107.161.19.109 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.libera.chat < 1621698852 771452 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION knows what kiwiirc is
< 1621698858 665812 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esolangs < 1621698861 324016 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't use kiwi, I'm slightly allergic. :/ < 1621698863 55983 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION was making a bad joke
< 1621698877 479328 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION is here noow also
< 1621698920 375160 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :kiwi is for guests < 1621698928 626657 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you don't have to use it < 1621698931 947433 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Should've taught that bridge about CTCP ACTION while I was mucking with it. < 1621698972 669450 :wib_jonas!b03f0c01@107.161.19.109 QUIT :Client Quit > 1621698978 411898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FlipJump14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83188&oldid=83003 5* 03Tomhe 5* (+13) 10/* Bit-specific */ Bit-specific changed to Words-value (aligned syntax update). < 1621699017 917788 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :guys, does /whois show my "Actual hostname" for you? < 1621699038 435866 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not to me. < 1621699070 146733 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay, since I see that field and could not be sure < 1621699106 3073 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: yes, the irc server tells you your real hostname even while you're cloaked, because you're inside the cloak < 1621699121 208879 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this sounds awful < 1621699152 630390 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :because клоака is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca < 1621699285 238278 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a physical constraint. if you wanted to see your cloak, you would have to move your eyes outside the cloak, and then people could see your eyes. < 1621699368 963524 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you still want that, make another connection to the server < 1621699391 795274 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :uh can't you just < 1621699394 116092 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :ask nickserv < 1621699400 163870 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd .. < 1621699405 264776 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`/msg nickserv info USERNAME HERE` < 1621699406 36896 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​/msg? No such file or directory < 1621699415 581756 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot < 1621699417 341467 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: asd < 1621699419 855052 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: /home/> _ < 1621699453 510013 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: you could ask HackEso < 1621699466 622131 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` echo "$IRC_HOST" < 1621699467 528031 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu < 1621699473 349898 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :true < 1621699474 826190 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, right, fungot. Hmm. < 1621699505 98457 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I should keep it on the side that has more people planning to use it, which might be this one. < 1621699511 523244 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: or /msg perlbot arg &h < 1621699523 707315 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can ask any sufficiently powerful bot < 1621699529 160250 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Fungot is missing!", a hit educational game for the SNES. < 1621699536 992670 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can you run multiple Fungotia? < 1621699568 803078 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Almost. I'd just need to never run ^save on one of them, or configure different state files. < 1621699580 842623 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I don't know if the world is ready for more than one fungot. < 1621699580 901527 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't let funge start growing < 1621699592 878492 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think we are ready for that < 1621699663 904820 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if there were IRC viruses < 1621699677 700260 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that find bots with backdoors to replicate < 1621699688 919547 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: there were at least malware, not necessarily virus < 1621699703 943191 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: not targeting bots, but very buggy IRC clients < 1621699713 718170 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps also targeting bots, I'm not sure < 1621699733 378642 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Eggdrop was so popular, I'm sure there must've been a vulnerability in there somewhere. < 1621699734 444661 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could find some of the bot loops viruses < 1621699755 551982 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i still wonder how fast a bot that's programmed to join any channel mentioned near it would spread across a network < 1621699780 996035 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 JOIN :#esolangs < 1621699812 850016 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps there is a limit of channels you can join < 1621699821 999362 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is, i forget what it is < 1621699823 921676 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`CHANLIMIT=#:250` < 1621699824 752898 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :CHANLIMIT=#:250`? No such file or directory < 1621699830 461112 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's pretty high and you could simply open a new connection < 1621699850 737412 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not sure if it's that specific limit, I just had the connection-open numerics from fungot's debug screen. < 1621699850 980658 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: how come there's a 3rd arguement now? http://mumble.net/campbell/ tmp/ restrict.html for what i need < 1621699886 219651 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: you could just use alis to find channels < 1621699893 803302 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not all channels, because channels can be hidden from that, but still < 1621699897 225094 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, but i meant what i asked < 1621699898 647278 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs ::P < 1621699916 602380 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well let's see < 1621699917 240623 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :while I was tracking twitch I had an idea to note the raids after the stream (that's a thing when streamer leaves and moves all his viewers to some another stream, keeping the audience within the website and making a social connetion with a selected target in that way) < 1621699949 404301 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it would be possible to slowly build a graph of people who tend to raid each other < 1621700028 774849 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( Streamers who raided X also raided Y and Z. ) < 1621700049 917032 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :is alis here too? < 1621700068 885325 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes there's an alis < 1621700103 990261 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I made a "who's having an affair with who" chart for a... well, let's call it a forum, once, based on people mentioning the names of other members. < 1621700106 513058 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Less obviously, Sigyn is ozone, eir is litharge. < 1621700129 802308 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Someone's name was a pretty common word, they got an edge with everyone in the graph. < 1621700138 985489 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :lmao < 1621700139 563197 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :GraphViz was having problems rendering it, but that's not a surprise. < 1621700170 146846 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :let's speed up its bootstrapping. dear bot who joins every channel mentioned, please JOIN < 1621700173 150432 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :##chat,##electronics,##hardware,##math,##politics,##programming,#ansible,#bash,#bitcoin,#c,#C++,#centos,#datahoarder,#debian,#elixir,#emacs,#fedora,#freebsd,#gentoo,#gentoo-chat,#git,#go-nuts,#guix,#hamradio,#haskell,#idleRPG,#ircv3,#irssi,#javascript,#libera,#libera-dev,#libera-offtopic,#libera-overflow,#lineageos,#linux,#lisp,#lobsters,#matrix,#musl,#networking,#nixos,#openbsd,#osdev,#perl,#postgresql, < 1621700179 159334 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :#python,#raspberrypi,#reddit-sysadmin,#reprap,#rockylinux,#security,#sway,#thelongue,#ubuntu,#vim,#voidlinux,#weechat,#wikimedia-operations,#wikipedia-en,#windows,#zig,#znc < 1621700196 74843 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esolangs < 1621700210 964893 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i'd write such a bot but i feel i'd make the admins annoyed with me < 1621700411 692129 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :it’s a bit interesting that all ideal triangles are congruent < 1621700521 967155 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :noncongruence starts with quadrilaterals in dimension 2, though I suspect non-planar quadrilaterals are again all congruent?.. < 1621700546 828084 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: you'd have to make it leave channels that are almost empty or else your join quota will fill up quickly < 1621700811 793387 :anonymous!~river@user/river JOIN :#esolangs < 1621700838 216983 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`python3 -cprint("#,"+",".join(["#%c" % k for k in range(33,126) if k != 44])) < 1621700839 82288 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​#,#!,#",##,#$,#%,#&,#',#(,#),#*,#+,#-,#.,#/,#0,#1,#2,#3,#4,#5,#6,#7,#8,#9,#:,#;,#<,#=,#>,#?,#@,#A,#B,#C,#D,#E,#F,#G,#H,#I,#J,#K,#L,#M,#N,#O,#P,#Q,#R,#S,#T,#U,#V,#W,#X,#Y,#Z,#[,#\,#],#^,#_,#`,#a,#b,#c,#d,#e,#f,#g,#h,#i,#j,#k,#l,#m,#n,#o,#p,#q,#r,#s,#t,#u,#v,#w,#x,#y,#z,#{,#|,#} < 1621700915 691454 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i own #1, it is the best channel < 1621700922 861266 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: I had a friend who wrote a program that just... repeatedly instantiated a new bot that'd connect and joing a particular channel. < 1621700934 592808 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :They got to about 20 before a staff member joined and told them to stop < 1621700937 828614 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1621700938 936932 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :(this was pre-2017 freenode) < 1621700953 270982 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :well yea if you're making that many connections someone's gonna notice aha < 1621700966 538287 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: you need #one as well, and #uno etc. < 1621701031 751623 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :That would be channel hoarding < 1621701034 71773 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :so nah < 1621701056 165022 :river!~river@user/river QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621701057 766360 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :just trying to help *d&r* < 1621701116 352027 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Taneb: freenode has some limit on how many clients can connect from one address, and they even have some [A-Z]line feature that gives excemption from that for heavily NATted addresses like convention centers or universities < 1621701139 996911 :river!~river@user/river JOIN :#esolangs < 1621701151 672961 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least one Ircnet server has a rule of at most three connections per host < 1621701160 284730 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though of course this gets more complicated with ipv6 < 1621701268 157324 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the usual workaround for spammers is to buy a botnet made of a large number of random people's home computers acquired via vulnerabilities < 1621701367 77998 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esolangs < 1621701431 528752 :xkapastel_!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621701481 585052 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea, i-lines < 1621701497 755392 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :@hellomouse.net had one on freenode as we have a bouncer. We need to get that back < 1621701518 83605 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by arseniiv_)) < 1621701525 760702 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1621701525 772877 :V!~v@anomalous.eu JOIN :#esolangs < 1621701556 685845 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: help > 1621701556 685892 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: see "brctl: help ignore" (filter by nick) and "brctl: help filter" (filter by text content) for the two available commands < 1621701575 3972 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: help ignore > 1621701575 4012 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: usage: "brctl: ignored" (to list), "brctl: ignore [net/]nick" (to add) or "brctl: unignore [net/]nick" (to remove); network defaults to your own; nick = * matches any message < 1621701607 807483 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: bridged to wherems't? < 1621701613 478356 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oho > 1621701619 275661 PRIVMSG #esolangs : to here. < 1621701678 231992 :anonymous!~river@user/river QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621701694 758901 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv_ < 1621701727 349444 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621701743 712169 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1621701747 143467 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv_ < 1621701749 927185 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1621701763 806350 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: ignore > 1621701763 806397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: see "brctl: help ignore" (filter by nick) and "brctl: help filter" (filter by text content) for the two available commands < 1621701770 325926 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: ignored > 1621701770 325965 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: Ignore list: freenode/shachaf libera/shachaf > 1621701928 173026 PRIVMSG #esolangs : what < 1621701938 20736 :xkapastel_!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1621701969 708334 PRIVMSG #esolangs : I'm guessing the libera side has just lost the connection or something. > 1621702015 851991 PRIVMSG #esolangs : does it still bridge? < 1621702053 137472 :river!~river@user/river QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621702202 51397 :pikhq!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621702202 51457 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621702238 100441 :esolangs1!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1621702247 839638 :fungot`!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 JOIN :#esolangs < 1621702267 98957 :jinn!~jinn@d.jinn.army JOIN :#esolangs < 1621702276 597547 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you think? < 1621702346 98962 :pikhq_!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621702510 363849 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh, esolangs1. let's see if it will loop with the other esolangs > 1621702519 684064 PRIVMSG #esolangs : hey esolangs1, loop < 1621702523 510137 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nope < 1621702541 120068 :river!~river@user/river QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621702541 550022 :pikhq!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621702541 615917 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621702541 652398 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621702541 867137 :pikhq_!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com NICK :pikhq < 1621702542 487738 :j4cbo_!sid186930@id-186930.brockwell.irccloud.com NICK :j4cbo < 1621702592 570694 :esolangs1!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi NICK :esolangs < 1621702739 962060 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so fungot, you're here now? what brand of DVD demagnetizer would you recommend? < 1621702740 305885 :fungot`!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: thank you, and perhaps helped by the house, calls for a dual legal basis before the court of justice against this untimely change. no-one, neither the european parliament. you were asked to work to establish the partnership was still pending. < 1621702823 109167 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I guessed you wouldn't give a straight answer. in that case, fungot, what features should I pay attention to when I buy a DVD demagnetizer? < 1621702823 600474 :fungot`!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: mr president, commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, i will be coming onto the market products that could compete with those now circulating on the internal market. in some respects even improves on the commission to establish a policy that undermines the quality of legislation and the consequence therefore is, if we go back to two points here. first of all, only one additional country has come on board. < 1621702935 740661 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see, fungot. you emphasize the difference between ones produced locally and east asian knockoffs < 1621702935 915061 :fungot`!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: mr president, i will be speaking about these further in our committees, in full or in part. < 1621702941 396698 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :very good < 1621702951 94820 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :this network had lead to some fun things < 1621702954 694858 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://thelounge.hellomouse.net/uploads/cd24a5123916a651/image.png < 1621703044 811001 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: ignore V > 1621703044 811056 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: ignoring < 1621703050 226492 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's how it should've responded. < 1621703053 7156 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :??????? < 1621703061 406700 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: ignored > 1621703061 406736 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: Ignore list: freenode/shachaf libera/V libera/shachaf < 1621703070 690717 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(If you don't *want* it to ignore you, feel free to undo it with unignore.) < 1621703071 430053 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: ignore freenode/V > 1621703071 430094 PRIVMSG #esolangs :brctl: ignoring < 1621703074 276040 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :excellent < 1621703076 615642 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :bi < 1621703081 631234 :V!~v@anomalous.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it just fell over < 1621703108 3178 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, a lot of clients ping-timeouted at the same time. < 1621703129 465633 :variable!~someone@user/variable JOIN :#esolangs < 1621703136 67608 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also poor old little fungot got a ` growing on it. < 1621703136 246797 :fungot`!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: mr president, a lot fewer trees, some 140 million. that trend is the same as any other beef in europe. < 1621703150 385934 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's a lot of trees. < 1621703168 867519 :fungot`!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 NICK :fungot < 1621703175 8419 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :dear fungot what do you thing of ideal tesselations and all that? < 1621703175 516914 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: mr president-in-office, if the house adopts these amendments, we will always be relative to our dependence and reliance on nato which still owns the essential military hardware and which enabled us to develop the criteria relating to its independence and its considerable competence in issues that are sensitive for the european political institutions during the past months. these men were put behind bars, although the < 1621703207 755159 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A consummate politician, never a clear answer. < 1621703224 523150 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Except that one time. < 1621703227 536336 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can’t even parse it completely < 1621703275 791920 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :these men were put behind bars => I see cell borders here. I think fungot is perfectly aware what was asked of them < 1621703276 198493 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: mr president, i would also like to thank you, first of all about the allocation. regarding parliament's team itself, we still believe that coordination, cooperation and shared responsibility, whereby all those involved for the last two years, so we cannot blame the commission) is also necessary to be able to get down to finalising at the earliest. < 1621703282 107826 :voidio!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esolangs < 1621703307 171899 :bi!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`ls < 1621703308 88734 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :a.out \ asmbf-1.2.7 \ banana.txt \ bfi \ bin \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ egel-master \ egel-scripts \ egel.zip \ eGtbSgN68aHU \ just \ karma \ le \ olist.new \ output.b \ paste \ pd \ pd.c \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ this.py \ tmp \ wisdomls.txt < 1621703321 676580 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621703324 895607 :voidio!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid NICK :iovoid < 1621703326 659346 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, I’m certainly not the one who allocated the space for fun​got < 1621703330 717448 :variable!~someone@user/variable PART :#esolangs < 1621703395 141709 :bi!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :cd < 1621703410 287606 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: and at last, do you know any religious hymnes and do you recite them in evening? < 1621703410 697899 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: mr president, the wto negotiations and with a view to its full extent if it wishes to integrate? also, may i begin by reminding you that i cannot give you the following: could we not express our disappointment? the scope of the programme. < 1621703412 752244 :anonymous!~river@user/river NICK :river < 1621703436 694777 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay so they don’t recite < 1621703487 253209 :xkapastel_!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT : < 1621703567 107423 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621703574 341487 :kunwon1!~kunwon1@113.173.164.101 JOIN :#esolangs < 1621703575 229178 :kunwon1!~kunwon1@113.173.164.101 QUIT :K-Lined < 1621703596 23525 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :also that ideal polygon tesselation proves we can easily represent any free group on finite generators via hyperbolic motions: for n generators, just take a tesselation into regular ideal (2n)-gons < 1621703634 750063 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :no having to include one free group in a two-generator one < 1621703665 614219 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :how easy! < 1621703687 221996 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: b_jonas: you might have been interested ↑ < 1621703776 118084 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, b_jonas might have already said something like that last time, but then I didn’t understand completely < 1621703779 58602 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: What's fungot licensed as, when it comes to using/modifying it? < 1621703779 664043 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, i only got to see the financial resources for this programme is important because we need them to understand each other well. as regards the international conferences we have been obliged, with the agreement of any substance. i can assure the honourable member will surely agree, this is a form of development. i would like to single out the last initiative of the british authorities were m < 1621703801 960611 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: yes, tha'ts what I tried to say at https://esolangs.org/logs/2021-05.html#ldI < 1621703803 712428 :\a!noisytoot@user/noisytoot JOIN :#esolangs < 1621703821 683677 :\a!noisytoot@user/noisytoot PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie, What is the license of fungot? < 1621703821 965528 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :\a: mr president, since the long march, and it is now the essential question, a philosophical choice. europe will continue to press the council of ministers will adopt them. < 1621703829 752498 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i already asked aha < 1621703865 357949 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot has great answers to our questions. What is the meaning of life, fungot? < 1621703865 769037 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: madam president, i should say that my group believes that the lack of safe access for relief agencies to people in a country with disastrous social conditions in which those who have been able to reach agreement on the reform of the commission in agenda 2000 will further increase the speed of technological advance, narrow consumer choice, increase the capacity of economies to adapt to the new member states can always introd < 1621703873 371437 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I glad to see that now; thanks nonetheless < 1621703876 196662 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: the illustrations are under https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Infinite-order_tilings < 1621703887 438857 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: \a: Heh. Yeah, looks like I never actually chose. Let's say MIT for the code, and I'll look at updating the repository to reflect that. < 1621703894 994567 :\a!noisytoot@user/noisytoot NICK :fg < 1621703899 527671 :fg!noisytoot@user/noisytoot NICK :\a < 1621703902 559381 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds good < 1621703916 849895 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The language models aren't publicly available anywhere, though. < 1621703932 584860 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot's code size is so small that the license text might take up a significant part of the shirt < 1621703932 820986 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: madam president, commissioner, you will note is specifically referred to in the question of comitology. this is partly explained by hizbollah’s outrageous tactic of using human stem cells to achieve the objectives in the field of homeopathic medicine. < 1621703990 693759 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's actually just the babble generation subsection (lines 129-173 of fungot.b98) that's on the shirt. < 1621703991 457029 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: thank you for the opportunity to read the information. against this background, the commission, in order to solve them effectively. how, moreover, i feel that the message and practice stemming from laeken are contradictory. they are now lying there during the winter, when orders decline, this credit on their working procedures or, as in portugal and poland for instance, paragraph 4, the commission is full of enthusiasm < 1621704019 130236 :\a!noisytoot@user/noisytoot PRIVMSG #esolangs :The MIT license is quite small < 1621704089 780481 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: thanks. I came to the idea by drawing a sketch of {4, ∞}, precisely! < 1621704149 429380 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: wait where do one finds such a shirt? < 1621704185 209087 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: I just got one printed at one of those "you upload a .jpg, we email you a shirt" places, I had a free code for one. < 1621704192 596535 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :can’t express how I love the conformal disk model < 1621704194 529309 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I've got the specific .jpg online somewhere, let's see. < 1621704218 139586 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder how it looks on a real shirt though :) < 1621704234 912623 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually, what I had online is a photo of the real shirt, so you're in luck. < 1621704237 506623 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :or do they show shirt mock-ups? < 1621704238 536990 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://zem.fi/tmp/fungotshirt.jpg < 1621704238 754002 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: firstly, i should like to illustrate this link by referring to oil, as ' integral elements of european policy, is a situation that we have a unanimous report from the relevant committee. < 1621704259 218751 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: neat! < 1621704266 186261 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's an immediate conversation starter for sure. < 1621704337 64906 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, I guess in theory if you're wearing it and don't know what to say to something, you could run it in your head to generate a reply. < 1621704338 576647 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, there's a nice visible jump table < 1621704343 627261 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :personally I have yet to wear any custom-printed tee, just doesn’t seem that urgent < 1621704380 382242 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs : Also, I guess in theory if you're wearing it and don't know what to say to something, you could run it in your head to generate a reply. => lool. But you’d need a model loaded somewhere too, though < 1621704389 90513 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it should be enormous < 1621704397 417223 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, maybe keep one around as a printed book. < 1621704407 476951 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :rofl < 1621704552 482393 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or wear one of these crocheted hyperbolic planes as a skirt, they're fast to random access because you can draw a complete binary tree on them < 1621704562 633478 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no need to mess with slowly seeking sectors like on a hard drive < 1621704638 278043 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course the linear seeking of a flat shirt is suitable for befunge code < 1621704646 726568 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: how is a euclidean skirt lesser for this purpose? Eventually you’ll need a microscope but is that that big an issue? < 1621704741 907764 :paulmcquade-M!~paulmcqua@223.18.7.68 JOIN :#esolangs < 1621704745 274450 :paulmcquade-M!~paulmcqua@223.18.7.68 QUIT :K-Lined < 1621704831 474561 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm there is a chance of hyperbolic fungeoid out there. One could use those inclusions of n-generator free groups and extend programs by reimagining them as using a free group with more generators as a grid < 1621704851 284116 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :hyperbolic fungoid would be... interesting < 1621704861 47697 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :for one how would you reference memory, grid coordinates don't work anymore < 1621704873 686584 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: there are coordinates usable for hyperbolic plane < 1621704881 712795 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep! < 1621704890 91315 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :How would you write the program < 1621704903 241354 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Funge-98 Lahey-space is pretty funky on its own, even if it may look like a plane when you don't consider the wrapping. < 1621704962 154156 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :some people would use a specialized editor, just like they now do for writing Java programs, other people would just use C-x M-c M-butterfly , because it's still represented as a sequence of bytes < 1621704964 888995 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :we can even make arbitrary jumps like unfamous logo turtle would: (1) rotate in place a rational multiple of 2π and (2) go a rational amount in your current direction < 1621704989 12025 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621704994 232181 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :meow < 1621704997 543669 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :is this the cool place to be < 1621705002 195670 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :we can afford a countable set of jump/rotate instructions just for this insanity < 1621705015 377211 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :keegan: no, this is a channel full of weird nerds < 1621705022 255283 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol taneb < 1621705028 838815 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i am not weird < 1621705029 824649 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i am cd < 1621705038 227980 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: just use a finite generator < 1621705059 453207 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :Weird nerds and a circular object that stores data < 1621705088 36961 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :weird nerds are cool < 1621705091 913979 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: hm in the end we’ll be able to unify all that inside some finite-generator free group, yeah, though only if the program is finite < 1621705092 14607 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :furthermore, i am a weird nerd < 1621705101 589911 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :keegan: well then, this must be the cool place to be < 1621705108 22561 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :ergo de facto < 1621705131 239340 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: no, I mean a finite generator for finitely many rotate/jump instructions < 1621705140 851446 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it possible that zzo will join this irc channel? < 1621705159 722304 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :meow < 1621705171 737411 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: it's certainly concievable < 1621705181 514801 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :But who knows what zzo will do < 1621705185 695557 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo will probably make his own irc network based on gopher or something < 1621705208 555310 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, we'll build a bridge to it when that happens. < 1621705234 69785 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :I learned the other day that Gopher is named for the mascot of the university where it was invented (University of Minnesota), in addition to being maybe a pun on "go for" < 1621705258 782350 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: yeah that’s what I read; but that’s equivalent for a program being finite, as it’ll be able to use only finitely many instructions. But I think it’ll be good to allow any rational rotations and translations in general < 1621705275 791704 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: no no < 1621705282 99898 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN :#esolangs < 1621705299 238364 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/for/to < 1621705386 40095 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'd allow the program to span a potentially unlimited part of a grid on the hyperbolic plane, just as saner fungeoids do on the euclidean plane. euclidean fungoids only need a few jump builtins too. < 1621705478 936313 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh hey, neat, you got the forward. < 1621705545 397222 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Client Quit < 1621705561 74284 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN :#esolangs < 1621705581 770736 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :imode: fizzie did that. "just couldn't resist", he said. I knew it was the #esoteric thing to do. < 1621705605 118746 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esolangs < 1621705655 169075 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :thumbs-up from me. < 1621705724 355052 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it'll probably only stay for a transitional period, then we'll just stabilize on one network, but still < 1621705727 962290 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's fun < 1621705763 702989 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv__ < 1621705766 279376 :arseniiv__!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv_ < 1621705780 907490 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by arseniiv_)) < 1621705785 272181 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1621705803 417050 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :uh those NickServ shenanigans < 1621705978 159084 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621705978 162697 :pikhq!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706023 625304 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621706230 199771 :jinn!~jinn@d.jinn.army QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706230 199943 :river!~river@user/river QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706230 199967 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706230 199976 :\a!noisytoot@user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706230 200008 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706230 200039 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706327 1750 :esolangs1!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1621706327 196193 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: they can help too, sure < 1621706339 708012 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't his name "fungot" though? < 1621706340 135102 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: unfortunately, recent employment statistics for the whole of europe, is a most serious precedent that i would like, however, that development is undertaken in other areas. in july last year on behalf of the european parliament wants an interinstitutional agreement, the commission has not done for years. < 1621706360 564072 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs : isn't his name "fungot" though? => both first and last? < 1621706360 862796 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: mr president, first of all, i would like to say how glad i am not in a very striking way something that is absolutely clear; and we must equally ensure that there is annoyance and disappointment over the commission, by the european union < 1621706382 387503 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :though hm of course it will be both first and last if it’s just a single one < 1621706384 466869 :lifthrasiir_!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com NICK :lifthrasiir < 1621706412 723818 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :> map ($ ["fungot"]) [first, last] < 1621706413 67176 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: mr president, of course, but this should be accompanied by an assessment of whether this sum really makes up for deficiencies in the actual texts of regulations relating to the situation prior to harmonisation. amendment no 3 < 1621706420 67370 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :nooo < 1621706452 103028 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706452 110360 :pikhq!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706452 290599 :xkapastel_!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com NICK :xkapastel < 1621706452 408990 :pikhq_!sid394595@highgate.irccloud.com NICK :pikhq < 1621706469 406772 :jinn!~jinn@d.jinn.army QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706469 742825 :river!~river@user/river QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706469 742856 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706469 742863 :\a!noisytoot@user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds > 1621706511 851 PRIVMSG #esolangs : > map ($ ["fungot"]) [first, last] < 1621706511 470686 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs1: mr president, i should like to start by expressing my total support for an exceptional report and for the quality of bathing water quality, taking account of the obstacles which deny children access to a mother or father indeed, to make proposals for upward harmonisation of tobacco taxation. the point of view. > 1621706512 441378 PRIVMSG #esolangs : error: > 1621706512 553869 PRIVMSG #esolangs : • Couldn't match type ‘a b’ with ‘[]’ > 1621706512 553930 PRIVMSG #esolangs : Expected type: [[Char]] -> a (b, d) ([Char], d) < 1621706529 949306 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :did you guys know there are online card payment providers that don't accept name ("exactly as it's on written on the card") with accented letter, and I have a card with an accented letter in my name embossed? < 1621706540 576255 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Whoops, not ignoring the bridge when it's got its altnick on. < 1621706564 880712 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706639 616705 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Oh, right. When you're not busy, there's an obvious lambdabot deficiency here. > 1621706660 96181 PRIVMSG #esolangs : > let first = head in map ($ ["fung​ot"]) [first, last] > 1621706661 591371 PRIVMSG #esolangs : :1:34: error: > 1621706661 591440 PRIVMSG #esolangs : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8203' > 1621706672 798295 PRIVMSG #esolangs : > let first = head in map ($ ["fungot"]) [first, last] < 1621706672 968273 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs1: mr president, on the fnord. the terrorists dragged him over the last two years. > 1621706674 172311 PRIVMSG #esolangs : ["fungot","fungot"] < 1621706674 316016 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs1: madam president, i have a number of regional meetings with representatives of the presidency. < 1621706719 30150 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621706730 826963 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: mmm, obvious? > 1621706743 663845 PRIVMSG #esolangs : [ 'jevalbot is still here, isn't it?' > 1621706744 33710 PRIVMSG #esolangs : b_jonas: |open quote > 1621706744 33819 PRIVMSG #esolangs : b_jonas: | 'jevalbot is still here, isn't it?' > 1621706744 33864 PRIVMSG #esolangs : b_jonas: | ^ < 1621706751 922091 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs : did you guys know there are online card payment providers that don't accept name ("exactly as it's on written on the card") with accented letter, and I have a card with an accented letter in my name embossed? => didn’t know they allow non-ASCII latin there < 1621706777 204364 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I can't prove it because I obviously won't show a photo of my embossed credit card < 1621706788 185799 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :no I believe perfectly < 1621706797 780554 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1621706800 455878 :esolangs1!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi NICK :esolangs < 1621706813 383829 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Well, obvious in the sense that someone tried to use it but it wasn't here. < 1621706830 825360 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon JOIN :#esolangs < 1621706847 713769 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the bank's homepage shows example credit card images, but they look fake, not real photos of credit cards < 1621706853 871612 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe that's not quite the right adjective. Blatant? Something. < 1621706871 756844 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I don't know what to look for. < 1621706895 609835 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :over here, they transliterate to ASCII latin and do that quite liberally. I bet й and ий have more than two transliterations there in the wild. There were standards on that but not a single one and almost always they seem to be ignored < 1621706943 520260 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I mean, if I wasn't clear -- it's just not on this channel, it's on the deprecated one. < 1621706963 199488 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: ah! < 1621706964 761025 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse.net JOIN :#esolangs < 1621706978 567792 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also was that > prefix thing special too? I don't know for sure.) < 1621706988 446067 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"it" in "use it" referred to the bot as a whole, not to a particular feature that was missing < 1621707000 240608 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN :#esolangs < 1621707007 169064 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :imagine you can end up with ы and й transliterated the same (as y). Though it is the ambiguity that’s worse, as sometimes the card transliteration should for some reason match with transliterations in other places, or something. And you need to somehow control that the bureaucrats match them :D < 1621707049 755661 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :11:06 < b_jonas> I can't prove it because I obviously won't show a photo of my embossed credit card < 1621707052 988344 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could redact the number < 1621707060 568656 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :just make sure to actually cover it with a black box or something < 1621707064 913878 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :rather than blurring or pixelating < 1621707080 417677 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think most people realize how easily you can recover even heavily blurred or pixelated text if you have a strong prior < 1621707081 764971 :river!~river@user/river JOIN :#esolangs < 1621707111 763492 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :and 16 digits with known spacing and font is a very strong prior < 1621707126 368934 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :keegan: yep usually it’s a gaussian blur or something alike < 1621707127 319857 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Someone had just failed redacting a PDF with the usual thing (opaque black box drawn on top, original data not removed), I thought nobody was really doing that anymore. < 1621707143 966308 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: a Zen variation of not seeing the forest for the trees... there were no trees < 1621707144 665030 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't remember where, some piece of local government maybe. < 1621707148 491022 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :whats your unique ID? < 1621707162 964355 :mynery!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 NICK :myname < 1621707199 802288 :jix!~jix@user/jix JOIN :#esolangs < 1621707212 252759 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :keegan: I refuse < 1621707237 908374 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do redact some photos, like ones with people's faces, but I won't do that in this case < 1621707273 864299 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know I should consider myself lucky for having an ASCII-only name, but I miss out on all these stories. < 1621707286 511455 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: . o O ( When I said "send it electronically" I meant it to be printed and faxed, not sent by email! ) < 1621707338 480961 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have an ascii name too < 1621707339 60536 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Where might one find fungot-compatible models? :P < 1621707339 357407 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, in his opinion, regretted that fewer and fewer borders in international crime. according to the rule of law; the european initiative for democracy and human rights. < 1621707385 127905 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :we are having a baby in about 15 weeks and are still deciding about names but we have decided firmly on using the printable ASCII subset (no NULs or BELs) < 1621707388 843811 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :my surname has a non-initial capital, which a lot of systems drop, but it hasn't caused me problems < 1621707394 159046 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: You might consider training some of your own. There's step-by-step instructions at https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/varikn/readme.txt for the "modern" training method. < 1621707394 752563 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: mr president, i would like to convey my objections at least, to that year and thus during the previous magps, which compensated for any reduction in working hours will help to create or improve counselling and legal advice centres which will be to report on their activities, for it is undoubtedly the case that if there is a wider rural world than farming and tourism development. this means that we have all made every ef < 1621707430 333623 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh, I might look at that. thanks, fizzie < 1621707430 719633 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :keegan: (no NULs or BELs) => consoling < 1621707442 261725 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: aren't ASCII-only names the majority in Finland? < 1621707467 423626 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've never uploaded the pre-baked ones anywhere. I guess a lot of them are based on public materials, but maybe there's an ethics question in there somewhere too, cloning an AI vs. growing a new one in a similar environment, I don't know. < 1621707467 665677 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think it's something you need to consider lucky < 1621707489 407392 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: It might be a majority, but it's not a huge majority, ä and ö are pretty common in names. < 1621707495 624544 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :wifey and I have different surnames so that complicates things too < 1621707502 582330 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, it might be a 90% majority or something, but not like orders-of-magnitude majority. < 1621707547 21752 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine it could get funnier if you have a name with rare letters, and a bank official can't type it < 1621707564 448811 :003AAAO6M!~river@user/river QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621707564 592108 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1621707573 996450 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621707577 166520 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a lot of mojibake in snailmail from abroad, at least. < 1621707581 31096 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esolangs < 1621707585 152431 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Based on friends' experiences.) < 1621707599 591551 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll have to find some good materials to bae it on < 1621707601 687707 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :*base < 1621707635 706138 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: yeah, it's funny when shops in china can't correctly print non-ascii letters on the address stickers of mail < 1621707656 967364 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A friend of mine who moved to Australia has also been having trouble with his last name (two ä's), because different pieces of officialdom insist on spelling it differently, and then complain about mismatches. < 1621707662 854286 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs : I imagine it could get funnier if you have a name with rare letters, and a bank official can't type it => Ʌşŧȣλð Mŋödøczeς < 1621707662 909042 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :still amazed by https://celebraterickysargulesh.tumblr.com/post/31917763793/wizardishungry-an-image-of-a-post-envelope-with < 1621707687 926427 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are some short street names that are almost impossible to guess from the mangled addresses < 1621707757 116078 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: what is that? < 1621708010 487965 :[[!noisytoot@user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621708010 488013 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621708010 488042 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621708043 338399 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621708047 160701 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621708307 10802 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621708307 10910 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621708307 10931 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621708343 98630 :esolangs1!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1621708344 647380 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by imode1)) < 1621708346 757602 :imode1!~imode@user/imode NICK :imode < 1621708360 513999 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they're supposed to be real names in universe, but I think he deliberately avoids real names out of universe to avoid offending someone real < 1621708383 257399 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :(still about the Polish one: we should probably ask kspalaiologos about what tsch-letter is correct, I don’t know at all how do they differ. Maybe one of them was for a hard ch and the other for the soft one) < 1621708387 994211 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm guessing Myyntti Raatalla is mock-Finnish, and that's just so bad when it comes to phoneme durations. "Myntti Raattala" you could have. In fact, I think Raattala is a real surname. < 1621708405 95944 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621708405 216859 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621708405 255019 :[[!noisytoot@user/noisytoot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621708405 292011 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621708405 327710 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621708408 583809 :xkapastel_!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com NICK :xkapastel < 1621708432 103194 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621708443 969431 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think I might have heard about that polka from a friend, he translated it to some language IIRC < 1621708457 358628 :esolangs1!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi NICK :esolangs < 1621708459 267922 :PavelDruzhinin-t!~PavelDruz@85.117.94.41 JOIN :#esolangs < 1621708462 600067 :PavelDruzhinin-t!~PavelDruz@85.117.94.41 QUIT :K-Lined < 1621708471 380258 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :part of the in-universe story is about a person who wants to change their surname < 1621708537 41188 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1621708547 893112 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :we have that list analyzed in a few points of #esoteric logs. I think it even got changed to better represent the languages of regulars. < 1621708564 421354 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which is why it doesn't have any spanish or portugese names by the way < 1621708571 82973 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because we don't consider the Canaima guys regulars > 1621708647 672352 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07202014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83189&oldid=82647 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+14) 10added John Conway to the list of deaths in the comment of unimplemented ideas < 1621708763 821479 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I guess we should add a russian name to it now < 1621708817 706277 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Huh, I always thought those names were a reflection of which languages are available in the thing. < 1621708830 934994 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` words --help < 1621708831 947311 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger datasets more influential \ -o, --target-offset change the target length offset used in the \ < 1621708834 970164 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`words -l < 1621708835 858604 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :valid datasets: --brazilian --bulgarian --canadian-english-insane --catalan --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --esolangs --finnish --french --gaelic --german --german-medical --hebrew --irish --italian --manx --norwegian --ogerman --opcode --pokemon --polish --portuguese --russian --spanish --swedish \ default: --eng-1M < 1621708836 428581 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` words -l < 1621708837 479513 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :valid datasets: --brazilian --bulgarian --canadian-english-insane --catalan --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --esolangs --finnish --french --gaelic --german --german-medical --hebrew --irish --italian --manx --norwegian --ogerman --opcode --pokemon --polish --portuguese --russian --spanish --swedish \ default: --eng-1M < 1621708838 130702 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I couldn’t give an advice on that, as they are too diverse because of cultural mixing < 1621708849 70767 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas ↑ < 1621708895 525159 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: sure, most of the Hungarian names are mixed in too, and the easiest way to make an authentic sounding Hungarian name is to hungarianize the spelling and phonology of a fake foreign name < 1621708902 662884 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :like, not that diverse of course, but I think I would be a bad advisor nonetheless < 1621708913 766511 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: haha < 1621708924 577613 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there good fake pokemon name generator models? < 1621708941 842331 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :`pokemon < 1621708942 632962 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :pokemon? No such file or directory < 1621708946 734549 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :`pokemons < 1621708947 513145 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :pokemons? No such file or directory < 1621708974 162038 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :I bet HackEso had something for that, though you’d know better if it’s good < 1621709095 482883 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has the same problem: there are less than a thousand real pokemon names (right now; it will grow), so it's hard to generate fake ones that look real < 1621709140 765487 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :`words --pokemon < 1621709142 93593 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :turtor < 1621709161 181491 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tried to generate fake town names of Hungary, there the sample is like 2500, the best ones I got are "Rúgonya" and one that I forgot but that turned out to be the Hungarian name of some town outside of Hungary < 1621709165 132660 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: ah yes, I'm stupid < 1621709180 900937 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`words --pokemon -o 2 20 < 1621709181 929870 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :nectriken victinaracturtwig skitunky druddiursa cascoloss darumbrelibird lier bunny thundoublast tsareecko banetapod torb snorlax gigalitle leafeon klinklantini wigglyphlos wurmplumismagius macharjabug fomalakie < 1621709194 861889 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :the command was right here; I have no eyes and I must seem^W see < 1621709196 428179 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :snorlax is real < 1621709212 503482 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :banetapod sounds nice < 1621709221 12938 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :wurmplumismagius :D < 1621709221 930991 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :thundoublast also sounds nice < 1621709229 201780 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :gigalitle too < 1621709232 706335 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :leafeon... isn't that real? < 1621709242 9853 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, leafeon is real < 1621709294 365938 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :klinklantini seems to have an affinity to alcohol < 1621709308 636894 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :and glassware < 1621709338 172360 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there inanimate-ish pokemon? < 1621709356 474196 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, geosomething < 1621709578 113079 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621709830 110555 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1621709867 708 :esolangs1!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs > 1621709971 401970 PRIVMSG #esolangs : `words --russian -o 2 20 > 1621709972 995952 PRIVMSG #esolangs : ​помозноджан забытказывалешени недвыхъ каральвили делагоспит вижиша выноукрентагза сарканькенностивобесу силастера пятиилосильскологи encessemble наструиравноплюсь кализируютъ повидовлеей кобразведенцию эндзанный мишагосязато срабамбовал < 1621709978 975254 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :seems legit < 1621709986 69966 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621709986 76910 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1621709999 351124 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`words --russian -o -2 20 < 1621710000 905818 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​констваркова дедотают бушиться бегуньски ушисьмедстанов амвтрением диием сокон итропасность софено прибергу правьдана него едают полютретья испрусахь службылинъ кортзанных мускаакопрохо некдуфайтестиленно < 1621710020 101561 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esolangs > 1621710034 963637 PRIVMSG #esolangs : more like fake Bulgarian < 1621710064 301910 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`words --bulgarian 20 < 1621710066 193437 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​дървостех сноших кьосветник разубедения гътнализврем борницата дюдюкаработите подоветнадрънча присарските засияване бъбряваш отцеждити ненажима уверно докаялия непокващ добифовавяващ известе одейки замърсващи < 1621710100 497002 :esolangs1!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi NICK :esolangs < 1621710130 999823 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621710211 657693 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"бъбряваш" starts with "бъб", as if it deliberately tried to look not russian when you specify --bulgarian < 1621710244 280024 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also "дървостех" < 1621710294 411597 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :кализируютъ -- that Ъ in the end is some from 19th century rules < 1621710295 979284 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs : arseniiv: both have some of the brain in https://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2663#comic => haha that’s perfect < 1621710300 858247 :voidio!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esolangs < 1621710302 873948 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course that's exactly the kind of thing that these models can do well < 1621710326 181960 :[[!noisytoot@user/noisytoot JOIN :#esolangs < 1621710365 330665 :\a-!noisytoot@user/noisytoot JOIN :#esolangs < 1621710380 237370 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey, did you notice it has "encessemble" among russian words? < 1621710396 4428 :xkapastel_!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621710409 228909 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1621710409 400990 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1621710409 432065 :\a!~noisytoot@user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1621710409 518698 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1621710409 526838 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1621710409 626448 :xkapastel_!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com NICK :xkapastel < 1621710410 230215 :voidio!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid NICK :iovoid < 1621710414 737698 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep, some garbage in the used dictionary < 1621710427 668848 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :let's try shorter ones < 1621710434 587860 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`words --russian -o -4 20 < 1621710435 967308 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​олярхад пам коэфф консоверно сильчагосуджей горой бразпагоники забадскаго манскомъ оного еваталис росшуюся вых водизмораснов порщитном девязнь ивкал инируемыхъ оттопа разденьков < 1621710441 909787 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the short ones look more believable < 1621710443 138536 :\a-!noisytoot@user/noisytoot NICK :\a < 1621710453 558770 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :горой is a valid word < 1621710459 218524 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1621710461 642575 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bulgarian is funny to read even when it’s genuine. Hopefully Bulgarians wouldn’t take offense < 1621710464 442788 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :also оного < 1621710469 849402 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so is "сокон" from above < 1621710470 869389 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf JOIN :#esolangs < 1621710474 178201 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :коэфф ъ < 1621710477 34376 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :=> lol < 1621710482 144256 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1621710498 319502 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"вых" doesn't look real < 1621710504 170371 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :that’s a common abbreviation for коэффициент coefficient < 1621710518 638876 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh! < 1621710519 455116 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice < 1621710550 179411 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and "ивкал" looks suspicious with its trailing "л" < 1621710573 278409 :[[!noisytoot@user/noisytoot NICK :Noisytoot < 1621710587 621671 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's normal for past tense verbs < 1621710597 533845 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah good < 1621710659 322831 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :again that trailing Ъ < 1621710680 389613 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in "инируемыхъ"? it looks especially silly after an "х" < 1621710713 224671 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or do you mean in "манскомъ"? < 1621710804 946665 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_sign#Final_yer_pre-1918 < 1621710808 108552 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"бразпагоники" looks like a good fake word < 1621711273 776296 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`word --pokemon -o -4 20 < 1621711274 826355 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :re < 1621711279 376818 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` words --pokemon -o -4 20 < 1621711280 402025 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :rhypno luxe buizel mine crabra gastly sheliolitwig flygon foon mise smoem swamphan cate per quil celgon gole vestang maka arcant < 1621711300 190942 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` words --pokemon 20 < 1621711301 217871 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :carra rhyhorsea venusaur chirita tepin tyran oritarmada exploom grubi digon mushao bulbat dusken lopunne feebast aegiroc lumin skartic popotad staravile < 1621711310 774804 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :exploom is nice < 1621711314 855832 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :bulbat too < 1621711576 956900 :ac9vn[m|gr]!~ac9vnm|gr@pd95db458.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esolangs < 1621711588 985212 :ac9vn[m|gr]!~ac9vnm|gr@pd95db458.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :K-Lined < 1621712086 556023 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like these symbols https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_script < 1621712263 664243 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ⰰ Ⰱ Ⰲ Ⰳ Ⰴ Ⰵ Ⰶ Ⰷ Ⰸ Ⰹ Ⰺ Ⰻ Ⰼ Ⰽ Ⰾ Ⰿ < 1621712521 633329 :ski!~ski@ed-3358-10.studat.chalmers.se JOIN :#esolangs < 1621712547 816561 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i like them too < 1621712593 750460 :\a!noisytoot@user/noisytoot PART #esolangs :Leaving < 1621712860 698686 :FireFly!firefly@user/firefly JOIN :#esolangs < 1621713211 740486 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :someone said they are cute because of circles in most of them. I’d say they remind Greek-Latin-Cyrillic “continuum” but on the other hand are pretty alien, hence the effect. Tifinagh gives me a similar feeling < 1621713311 378378 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :Arrival < 1621713331 364031 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :but for instance Armenian script looks too alien to me, and less unique. I surely wouldn’t want to be an Armenian dyslectic < 1621713343 867710 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, hadn’t watched that one yet < 1621713434 757809 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs : arseniiv: I'm too used to all major scripts, the internet makes the world small, they don't look alien to me anymore > 1621713652 47863 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RCEM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83190&oldid=83155 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+710) 10Added an introductory section and a reference section, and amended a mistake in the documentation of the Common Lisp implementation. < 1621713712 803461 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :latin, russian, serbian cyrillic, greek, latin vietnamese, georgian, armenian, hebrew, arabic, persian, chinese kanji, japenese kanji plus kana, hangul, the more common brahmic scripts (devanagari, thai, bengali), latin braille are the ones I see the most often. you can still surprise me with the infinte variety of rarer ones, but not armenian. < 1621713784 304187 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yes, it's the internet of geeks, so I also see akkadian cuneiform and futhark < 1621713796 830326 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :hum, trying to comprehend how hackeso's umlbox works, can't seem to figure out how to get output out of it aha < 1621713807 141538 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and old hungarian runes, always used in a very non-authentic way) < 1621713816 828352 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :everything else worked after some quick fixes to init.c < 1621713902 50208 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: I used serial terminal in termbot, but I don't know how HackEso works < 1621714003 740805 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://pybin.pw/LoXF seems it tries to use some tty device, but i'm not sure where ../tty1 is in that particular context < 1621714048 185409 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: in a sense, many to me too, though I don’t read most of them at any rate. Mostly from translations on food packaging and instruction manuals. But Armenian, to continue the example, is alien in its, well, guiding principles or something. It’s strange how do they read fluently letters that are almost exclusively vertical bars. Someone said most cyrillic letters aren’t as legible as latin because there are less ascenders and < 1621714048 320602 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :descenders, and often just vertical and horizontal strokes (in lowercase), and the first one seems worse. Though hand-written Armenian looked way more legible IIRC > 1621714116 774134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RCEM14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83191&oldid=83190 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-52) 10/* References */ Use wikipedia link < 1621714177 702631 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: well sure, but in the same sense you could say Chinese kanji is the most readable < 1621714214 417608 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :well they are if you memorized them, I guess? < 1621714245 327292 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are pretty distinct in mass, and also they have some underlying logic, though not a too sane one due to historic process < 1621714253 813207 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as for "exclusively vertical bars", that's how latin script was written in old codexes, so it depends on the font too < 1621714320 111359 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wouldn’t say A C D G K M N O P Q R S U/V X Y Z would still be exclusively vertical bars < 1621714334 252628 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean look at the Gutenberg Bible, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Gutenberg_Bible_B42_Genesis.JPG , which set the traditions for how high quality typeset books are supposed to look like, heavily based on handwritten books < 1621714339 14754 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :or do you mean something like fractur? < 1621714357 755193 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: you have to take lowercase letters, uppercase is rare comapratively < 1621714358 94706 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :that’s evidently not too legible yeah < 1621714398 184453 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's like you draw a sequence of identical vertical lines with serifs on the top and bottom, and modify them with tiny additions or subtractions to turn them to different letters < 1621714401 694245 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, so I definitely wasn’t right to think about as far as some roman inscriptions in all capitals < 1621714440 590059 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the roman inscriptions that you see in lapidariums? those are readable to us because the capitals in the Times style fonts that we are used to are based directly on them so they're very similar, < 1621714447 374153 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Gutenberg_Bible_B42_Genesis.JPG => yep yep that’s the worst < 1621714452 567602 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :except that they use very different abbreviations and fewer spaces < 1621714457 525996 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :how did they read poor people < 1621714492 102277 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :and those abbreviations too, yeah, I read about their diversity and changes in time several months ago < 1621714509 943561 :amdj!~amdj@libera/staff/amdj PRIVMSG #esolangs :Someone might want to arrange for the esolangs bot to be autovoiced. If someone were to hit it with a lot of URIs, it responding with a flood of URI details without at least voice status will trigger a flood notice to network staff, and one of our bots is currently configured to be twitchy about that (it will murder it). < 1621714553 96162 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv: which abbreviations did you read about? the ones in roman era engraving, or the ones in hand-written mediæval latin codexes < 1621714582 381127 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: mediæval ones :) < 1621714612 728843 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the difference is that the mediæval scribal ones use a lot of unique diacritics; the engraved latin ones are basically pure ascii latin letters with the occasional middle dot separator < 1621714772 666287 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have photos of a bunch of old steles with text in various scripts engraved in them, from museums < 1621714775 752084 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they can look great < 1621714794 119949 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are even a few with hieroglyphs carefully engraved as concave rather than convex < 1621714799 240411 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry, convex rather than concave < 1621714800 751179 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :embossed < 1621714807 878562 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :can you imagine doing that to marble? < 1621714836 56705 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course that only happens in egyptian pyramids and similar < 1621714842 819314 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :not for more practical scribal documents < 1621714857 924916 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :those are all engraved the normal concave way < 1621714991 64403 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the one that looks the most impressive IRL (though not necessarily in photo) is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Stele_of_Ashurnasirpal_II_from_Nimrud < 1621715038 865819 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :carved from a single block of stone, quite tall, and looms over you, because you can get very close to it, since it's exhibited without any glass or plastic case surrounding it < 1621715492 453761 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^source < 1621715492 560155 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1621715606 793443 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am super close to getting umlbox working < 1621715611 356474 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :just output being a pain < 1621715613 185600 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs ::< < 1621715622 370149 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :stdout y u no work < 1621715624 480645 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esolangs : can you imagine doing that to marble? => seems a lot of work! < 1621715721 970790 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1621715723 769035 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :mudem is broke < 1621716030 971 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: sorry for the poke, trying to get umlbox working and the one thing holding me up is stdout. Not sure how to get it to actually give me the result of the ran command atm < 1621716077 531547 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh i see you have a umlbox fork :P < 1621716079 641858 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :All I remember about it is, it's very temperamental. Especially when it comes to the output. < 1621716112 906702 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, if you want the specifics of how it's set up for HackEso, it's that version of umlbox, and then the hackbot repo shows how it's being invoked. < 1621716123 602434 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I mostly just did a rewritten init. < 1621716147 651196 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I think my setup is mudem-free, because I didn't need any multiplexing. < 1621716152 607186 :zgrep!~zgrep@user/zgrep JOIN :#esolangs < 1621716253 994326 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/HackEso#Implementation_details might also have some useful tidbit in it, who knows. Probably not, though. < 1621716284 655393 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thanks, atm I'm considering the feasability of rehosting hackeso, again. < 1621716292 358225 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :just for fun mostly < 1621716310 48874 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :whole setup is quite interesting aha < 1621716388 806765 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I certainly noticed it's temperamental ^^; < 1621716953 655066 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh JOIN :#esolangs < 1621717502 839989 :Lykaina!~lyka@thor.lesidhetree.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621717760 119245 :Lykaina!~lyka@thor.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi < 1621717831 410375 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello Lykaina < 1621717845 718537 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you haven't been here for a while < 1621717861 151558 :u0_a61!~u0_a61@2601:14b:4400:8850:78ad:bff:fef4:8c3e JOIN :#esolangs > 1621717958 901868 PRIVMSG #esolangs : Hi Lykaina > 1621717967 675896 PRIVMSG #esolangs : I should probably move over to Libera soonish < 1621717978 352824 :Lykaina!~lyka@thor.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :just setting up Libera < 1621718056 741569 :Lykaina!~lyka@thor.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: when you do, let me know < 1621718146 245687 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is bridged < 1621718178 314352 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1621718206 735077 :Lykaina!~lyka@thor.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: and publicly logged < 1621718224 90055 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esolangs < 1621718432 462649 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh shit < 1621718436 823883 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do I delete my previous message < 1621718496 766759 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :We should probably figure out a mechanism for that, actually. Though it's complicated by having it publicly logged to a bunch of independent places. < 1621718533 484022 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I think there are multiple incompatible IRC extensions for that < 1621718559 233386 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least one more native IRC one, and one that twitch uses to map its own message deletes < 1621718569 54814 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :The name of this place almost makes me sad that we won't get people coming in here thinking it's about ghosts < 1621718586 20316 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: We've got #esoteric redirected here, so it's still quite possible. < 1621718589 630935 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: we will, because #esoteric redirects here < 1621718622 520816 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sgeo: we might not have Canaima people coming in here, so we should submit a patch to Canaima to forward them here, plus keep some amount of presence on freenode/#esoteric to redirect anyone who arrives there < 1621718674 814230 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :agh what a pain < 1621718680 702706 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i got everything working only for no output again < 1621718748 601093 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Canaima? < 1621718804 130861 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? canaima < 1621718806 126774 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Canaima is a secret Venezuelan project to overrun #esoteric with incomprehensible people who have no idea why they're here. < 1621718869 796219 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there any language or other math system that has no zero? < 1621718903 107304 :Lykaina!~lyka@thor.lesidhetree.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :ancient phoenecian < 1621718911 557322 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's like the old AOL install CDs, but they mistyped the contact phone number, so everyone arrives here < 1621718992 991384 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh by the way, the television media card thingy that I just installed to my grandma's television (basically just follow the instructions on the paper manual to type in a few numbers and insert the card into the slot in the back of the TV) gives an error message that refers the user to an obsolete customer service short phone number that now call a different inappropriate service provider's customer < 1621718999 5652 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :service < 1621719012 446470 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the short phone numbers keep changing every few years, probably as a method of obfuscations so fewer people reach customer services < 1621719031 736973 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :like changing IRC networks < 1621719088 40532 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: there's Forte where you have to cope with some numbers being unusable, and there was another esolang with a similar property but with the set of unusable numbers fixed < 1621719100 991554 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: yes < 1621719108 759747 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that doesn't happen every few yeras < 1621719129 398244 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have entries inherited from around 2008 in my irc configuration that still work < 1621719132 403221 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :channels < 1621719163 867385 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: do you happen to have any clue as to what causes stdout to just not work? < 1621719180 19683 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there should be a RAM with unusable memory addresses that correspond to prime numbers, preferably very large prime numbers < 1621719185 51083 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have the entire multibot setup functional, it's just umlbox not cooperating now < 1621719206 497607 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: oh yeah, that exists too: < 1621719254 878764 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.linusakesson.net/scene/safevsp/index.php < 1621719291 755426 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it mentions a case where you want to program such that every eighths byte in the memory is unusable < 1621719387 71538 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remember how on 32 Windows every 4th gigabyte of 4 GB RAM was unusable < 1621719388 957944 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: prime numbers are easier, because there are large gaps between them, so if the memory is infinitely large, you can just choose a large enough contiguous subset. sure, it might require you to buy an exponentially larger sized memory chip, who cares, RAM is cheap < 1621719391 537556 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :cd: Not really, just vague recollections that I've had problems with the output, especially when it comes to those con1/con2/con UML command-line arguments and getting them all right. < 1621719425 580348 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas ok, prime number div 100 < 1621719501 44798 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's something very unintuitive about what those parameters mean, especially when it comes to separate input and output designations. < 1621719556 925014 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm pretty sure I had it in a state at least once where the `-v` mode worked fine but had all that kernel output spam, while the non-verbose version just lost the command stdout somewhere. < 1621719609 973161 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not impossible there's even some Linux kernel version differences, I've certainly had to do tweaking when upgrading the kernel. < 1621719613 384426 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :or imagine the memory that rotates sometimes, like by 1 byte every second < 1621719673 341071 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the growing end does not copy data from the dying start but fills with zeros < 1621719695 859979 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I might have it working on Debian's UML kernel at the moment, rather than a self-built one. Maybe. Can't tell from my notes. < 1621719729 45498 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw about notes that you can't tell from < 1621719746 877067 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it also common in other countries that it's damn impossible to read what doctors write? < 1621719759 602495 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BA+%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0&rlz=1C1SQJL_ruRU840RU840&sxsrf=ALeKk03EOZnntQ-kI9YTsmdda1hgQS0vdA:1621719750655&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj-s6btoN7wAhXjl4sKHfJmAGMQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1279&bih=684&dpr=2 < 1621719764 28306 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually, looks like it's built from Debian's `user-mode-linux` package sources but with patching. < 1621719779 371525 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I think doctors' handwriting is one of those classic things to joke about, so probably. < 1621719833 521615 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: that would just be like old DRAMs with no built-in refresh logic, so you have to refresh them from the CPU < 1621719845 753036 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just looked at like 10 of these images and could not understand a single word, neither I could do about my own medical book < 1621719854 129709 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, < 1621719879 233999 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: you're fizzie's second-in-command, do you have any opinion to weigh in about the future of #esoteric after all the freenode drama? I'd like to hear < 1621719900 470220 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: yes, that's common < 1621719923 255598 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: pharmacists train hard to be able to read it, and then they tell stories about particular doctors where even they can't read the handwriting < 1621719964 538077 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(also about stupid doctors who write readable but stupid instructions, for which they have to check and filter out to not harm the patient too much, but that's less funny) < 1621719979 539170 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :they should have a special font now when it's computerised < 1621720006 274190 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :called kshfjdbhfj.ttf < 1621720052 653152 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said, my handwriting is unreadable too < 1621720068 26654 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it's very different from my brother's handwriting < 1621720073 844471 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe you have medical talents you didn't develop < 1621720081 919584 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, it's my brother who's the doctor < 1621720083 694831 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I'm not sure it's even attempting to run the kernel, judging from the --verbose output < 1621720087 148436 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION sighs
< 1621720135 733477 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :or rather, i'm getting no output from the kernel < 1621720190 526896 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :running the command myself "works" (tmp file since deleted) < 1621720281 909668 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://pybin.pw/He0C atm this is the most it tells me < 1621720347 150080 :u0_a61!~u0_a61@2601:14b:4400:8850:78ad:bff:fef4:8c3e NICK :Wezl < 1621720355 972789 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol issue closed https://github.com/sjvasquez/handwriting-synthesis/issues/9 < 1621721123 4409 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok wtf, uml is very much being tempermental < 1621721218 780542 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :> ioctl /random: bad address < 1621721220 686146 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : error: < 1621721220 758252 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : Variable not in scope: ioctl :: g -> (a, g)error: < 1621721220 771521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : • Variable not in scope: bad :: t0 -> [g -> (a, g)] > 1621721224 724305 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:AlvinBalvin32114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83192&oldid=76349 5* 03AlvinBalvin321 5* (+4720) 10/* ? */ < 1621721489 133275 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :output now works by removing random entirely, but writing to env doesn't seem to function < 1621721803 568546 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +v :esolangs < 1621721804 684337 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` cat $(which "\`") < 1621721805 641003 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​#!/bin/bash \ cmd="${@-quote}" \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$cmd" | rnoooooodl < 1621721851 316368 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :wthat the heck? < 1621721853 91640 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`quote < 1621721853 919647 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1030) your first mistake was making your second mistake < 1621721863 324229 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` which rnoooooodl < 1621721864 178397 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1621721867 158343 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` cat $(which rnoooooodl) < 1621721868 78409 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1621721881 543421 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` grep -R / rnoooooodl < 1621721884 536197 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :grep: rnoooooodl: No such file or directory < 1621721890 542579 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` grep -R rnoooooodl / < 1621721924 128077 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, that thing. < 1621721926 294364 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :grep: /etc/alternatives/my.cnf: No such file or directory < 1621721939 508806 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: It's actually got a few less 'o's in it. < 1621721952 383845 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`cbt ` < 1621721953 201469 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​#!/bin/bash \ cmd="${@-quote}" \ TIMEFORMAT="real: %lR, user: %lU, sys: %lS" \ shopt -s extglob globstar \ eval -- "$cmd" | rnooodl < 1621721973 856570 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But when you're *actually* running through it, it adds more. < 1621721986 643221 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`cbt rnooodl < 1621721987 446695 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :perl -pe 's/([Nn])ooodl/"$1@{[o x(3+rand 7)]}dl"/ge' < 1621721988 488455 :river!~river@user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :Of coursee < 1621722247 517471 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hate rnoodl, and I hate bin/\` for using it < 1621722280 688661 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :bin/\`\` too < 1621722299 294644 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I always wanted to just remove it from bin/\` and bin/\`\` but I don't dare < 1621722304 978822 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it can stay in the wisdom commands < 1621722748 994485 :amdj!~amdj@libera/staff/amdj PART #esolangs :part (v.): to be or become separated from something else < 1621723111 30738 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh JOIN :#esolangs < 1621723148 941329 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1621723482 492893 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621724025 298062 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :when I was coding in RASEL I needed to make some large number and it appeared to be less trivial to do that in Befunge < 1621724047 996520 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1621724051 907527 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :in Befunge you just :*:*:*:* to increase it rapidly but it's more complicated when you don't have a multiplication operation < 1621724172 858421 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you can either have a large N and repeat :1\// < 1621724248 450961 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe do some 1 / (1/N - 1/M) but I'm not 100% sure it would be any faster per cycle < 1621724297 124100 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but may make the path towards the number you need more interesting < 1621724477 947871 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :annnd hackbot copy is now mostly working(tm) < 1621724490 473873 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`revision < 1621724490 890664 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-1.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice < 1621724491 302730 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :revision? No such file or directory < 1621724782 500698 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Whoops, need to flip a setting. < 1621724795 97858 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1621724795 136906 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +v :esolangs < 1621724954 975481 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh QUIT :Quit: tech_exorcist < 1621725331 631825 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@id-79547.charlton.irccloud.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1621725369 120765 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@id-79547.charlton.irccloud.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :Perhaps the most esoteric thing of all, a minutely more descriptive channel name > 1621725478 231893 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PaRappa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83193&oldid=83149 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+737) 10 < 1621725717 467320 :xx!~xx@user/xx JOIN :#esolangs < 1621725739 21030 :xx!~xx@user/xx PART :#esolangs < 1621725799 190777 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh "profession" would have fit in the religious theme