< 1622938481 50985 :sprock!~sprocklem@user/sprock QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1622938558 34596 :slavfox_!~slavfox@ipv4-93-158-232-111.net.internetunion.pl JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox < 1622938731 212001 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1622938731 303148 :slavfox_!~slavfox@ipv4-93-158-232-111.net.internetunion.pl NICK :slavfox > 1622938764 897358 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Neural Brainfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84067 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+214) 10Created page with "==s Command== This is Turing complete, if the s command is allowed to be a [[Spoon]] implementation that maps programs to their output. ;) ~~~~" < 1622939764 649091 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 JOIN #esolangs ^[ :user > 1622939809 532968 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84068&oldid=84061 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+25) 10This seems to be more accurate given the examples. > 1622939823 391799 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Fuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84069&oldid=84068 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+0) 10 < 1622939889 955045 :sprock!~sprocklem@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :Mal Sproule > 1622940848 937390 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PythonshellDebugwindow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84070&oldid=78013 5* 03Not applicable 5* (+443) 10 > 1622941110 758607 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:PythonshellDebugwindow14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84071&oldid=84070 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+222) 10/* HelVM */ Reply > 1622941170 967901 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang talk:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84072&oldid=83801 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+171) 10/* Test */ new section < 1622941619 16771 :dbohdan!~dbohdan@user/dbohdan QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1622941634 410102 :dbohdan!~dbohdan@user/dbohdan JOIN #esolangs dbohdan :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1622941708 930292 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi NICK :fizzie_ < 1622941732 687903 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi JOIN #esolangs fizzie :Heikki Kallasjoki < 1622942493 162629 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.226.66.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1622942828 967253 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.1 < 1622943153 7562 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1622943833 387797 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.1 < 1622943855 782811 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1622948874 700112 :dyeplexer!~dyeplexer@user/dyeplexer JOIN #esolangs dyeplexer :t b k ky jt h bc < 1622950006 209449 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1622950071 49631 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1622950079 181453 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1622951557 641549 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh < 1622951633 654905 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I found how to get the value 129 in RASEL using 7 instructions without 0..9A..Z < 1622951659 41029 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :previous 7 long way to do it was C1B//3- < 1622953948 446880 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, tempting. https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/clickbait.png < 1622954042 23250 :Oshawott!~archenoth@S0106889e6827f474.cg.shawcable.net JOIN #esolangs Archenoth :archenoth < 1622954059 899005 :anonymous!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1622954252 875227 :sknebel_!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de JOIN #esolangs sknebel :sknebel < 1622954265 257789 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622954265 305895 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622954265 481020 :sebbu!~sebbu@user/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622954265 563717 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622954266 231251 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1622954266 308693 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi JOIN #esolangs * :HackEso < 1622954266 473032 :archenoth!~archenoth@S0106889e6827f474.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622954266 570668 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622954266 674094 :zegalch!~zegalch@178.128.75.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622954297 292705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot JOIN #esolangs lambdabot :Lambda_Robots:_100%_Loyal < 1622954341 359775 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :@bot < 1622954341 359830 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs ::) < 1622954354 186579 :zegalch!~zegalch@178.128.75.133 JOIN #esolangs zegalch :The Lounge User < 1622954397 938910 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly JOIN #esolangs FireFly :firefly < 1622954957 932194 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :Comments should be written in baby talk whenever possible. /* We truncy-wuncate the stringy-wingy we were given and we push-push-push it onto the stacky-wacky, don't we? Yes we do! Yes we do! */ < 1622954971 119849 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :(c) Chris Pressey < 1622955011 102007 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :stacky-wacky-based language < 1622955042 589115 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :n < 1622955043 13174 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :o < 1622955249 333027 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I agree with all these points: https://programmers.blogoverflow.com/2012/08/20-controversial-programming-opinions/ < 1622956024 915970 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also agree with what is written there < 1622957693 50000 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1622957761 486324 :^[!~user@user//x-8473491 JOIN #esolangs ^[ :user > 1622959981 81568 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03GotCubes 5* 10New user account > 1622960021 350224 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Nellephant14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84073&oldid=65275 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+377) 10Regular expression output > 1622960186 284253 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84074&oldid=84005 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+224) 10/* Introductions */ < 1622960907 410228 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1622961219 25360 :sebbu!~sebbu@user/sebbu JOIN #esolangs sebbu :sebbu < 1622961390 36941 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622961391 222130 :integral!sid296274@user/integral QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622961391 278759 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622961391 427898 :fizzie_!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622961391 546294 :ski!~ski@ed-3358-10.studat.chalmers.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622961391 707250 :pikhq!sid394595@user/pikhq QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622961391 788250 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622961430 456632 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon JOIN #esolangs nakilon :Victor Maslov < 1622961430 456697 :integral!sid296274@user/integral JOIN #esolangs integral :bsmith < 1622961430 456714 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot JOIN #esolangs perlbot :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1622961430 505804 :fizzie_!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN #esolangs fizzie :Heikki Kallasjoki < 1622961430 505893 :ski!~ski@ed-3358-10.studat.chalmers.se JOIN #esolangs ski :Stefan Ljungstrand < 1622961430 505918 :pikhq!sid394595@user/pikhq JOIN #esolangs pikhq :Ada Worcester < 1622961430 505936 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@ec2-52-79-98-81.ap-northeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN #esolangs lifthrasiir :Kang Seonghoon > 1622962858 102639 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Deadfish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84075&oldid=83994 5* 03Nakilon 5* (-11) 10/* Ruby */ this is very debatable < 1622963241 192175 :tiggilyboo!~tiggilybo@82-197-202-43.dsl.cambrium.nl JOIN #esolangs tiggilyboo :simon < 1622963362 967666 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the https://esolangs.org/wiki/Tape article says "See Category:Cell-based for more tape-based esolangs. " that is in my opinion confusing < 1622963449 758596 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the tape in brainfuck and the program space in befunge are different things; in brainfuck the moving pointer is accesing the data while in befunge it's accessing the instructions < 1622963500 593364 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :while that data access in befunge is random, not using the left/right instructions but p and g < 1622963534 99483 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's a mistake to call the befunge program space an analogue of tape < 1622963600 990159 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :wiki is synonymizing them < 1622963898 535245 :tiggilyboo!~tiggilybo@82-197-202-43.dsl.cambrium.nl QUIT :Quit: tiggilyboo < 1622964238 766194 :u32[m|gr]!~u32m|gr]@2001-b011-c040-148e-249a-6b86-305e-6e75.dynamic-ip6.hinet.net JOIN #esolangs * :u32[m|gr] < 1622964238 855331 :u32[m|gr]!~u32m|gr]@2001-b011-c040-148e-249a-6b86-305e-6e75.dynamic-ip6.hinet.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :／!\ ΤᎻΙЅ СНᎪΝNEL ΗАS MOVᎬᎠ ᎢⲞ ΙRϹ.LΙᗷΕRΑ．ϹHAT ﹟HAᎷRΑᎠIO /ⵑ\ < 1622964239 919608 :u32[m|gr]!~u32m|gr]@2001-b011-c040-148e-249a-6b86-305e-6e75.dynamic-ip6.hinet.net QUIT :K-Lined < 1622965086 858613 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622966441 819193 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: I think I disagree. If I saw a language that's like brainfuck but with random access instructions, I'd think it's very like brainfuck, and if I saw a language like befunge, but with a program space data pointer that you can move about, I'd think it's very like befunge < 1622966647 497934 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, because the brainfuck tape and befunge space are different things < 1622966746 978705 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's why I see no reason to have the link to "cell-based" saying "to read more about tape-based" (and vise versa) < 1622966763 429684 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think they're very different things at all < 1622966807 877895 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi Taneb < 1622966817 517317 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Seen any good cats lately? < 1622966823 348299 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :tape means you have a pointer than you instruct to shift its position by delta < 1622966824 337885 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esolangs :Only from a distance :( < 1622966829 311103 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :cell based ness < 1622966838 456630 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :cell-basedness says nothing about the pointer < 1622966845 498296 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1622967010 469676 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1622967036 345340 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :in brainfuck the data pointer and the instruction pointer are different things, operating isolated; in befunge they are mixed together by using the program space as memory < 1622967092 762289 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :befunge isn't more tape-based than C < 1622968511 254561 :anonymous!~river@tilde.team/user/river NICK :river < 1622975868 602824 :V!~v@anomalous.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1622977521 546035 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Newton14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84076&oldid=84057 5* 03Grs 5* (-63) 10 > 1622978368 414522 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Newton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84077&oldid=84076 5* 03Grs 5* (+922) 10Added Hello World! program < 1622978995 126681 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.226.66.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1622979214 363635 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I agree that fungespace doesn't feel particularly tape-y, but I don't think the fact that it merges the data and instruction pointers together is what makes the difference. < 1622979219 419007 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are a number of brainfuck flavors that do the same (make the "data pointer" also operate on the program itself), and those are just as "tape-based" as regular brainfuck. < 1622979222 422562 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, the "see Category:Cell-based for more tape-based esolangs" doesn't imply that all languages in the category would be tape-based; it just says there are some tape-based ones in it, which can't really be argued against, when probably half of them (exaggerating, but not by much) are derivatives of brainfuck, *the* tape-based language. > 1622979465 305137 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Magnogen 5* 10New user account > 1622979815 884242 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84078&oldid=84074 5* 03Magnogen 5* (+191) 10/* Introductions */ > 1622980448 599983 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Magnogen14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84079 5* 03Magnogen 5* (+751) 10Created page with "Hey! My name's Magnogen, but you can call me Mag - my friends call me that anyway. I like to code, even though it causes my great pain sometimes. I've been making a few prog..." > 1622980469 582991 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Magnogen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84080&oldid=84079 5* 03Magnogen 5* (+3) 10 > 1622980489 69673 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Magnogen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84081&oldid=84080 5* 03Magnogen 5* (+4) 10 > 1622980499 898566 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Magnogen14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84082&oldid=84081 5* 03Magnogen 5* (+1) 10 < 1622980736 643430 :Guest8!~Guest8@2a01:e34:ec4d:68a0:2969:e7b6:8783:e122 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest8 < 1622980756 894394 :Guest8!~Guest8@2a01:e34:ec4d:68a0:2969:e7b6:8783:e122 QUIT :Client Quit < 1622980947 439349 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hah, the X.509 subject identifier of the certificate you-know-who uses to connect contains the component "O = Fungot Engineering", and I had completely forgotten putting it there. < 1622981084 632749 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs ::) < 1622983077 462137 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there was a CS:GO skin few years ago in Steam Market that costed $0.1, I was thinking about buying a thousand of them < 1622983089 951360 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :now they cost $17 ..\ < 1622983228 856524 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1622983231 394163 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe I had to make a script to keep track of those but I didn't bother to < 1622983291 79505 :sknebel_!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de NICK :sknebel < 1622983447 636111 :fungot!~fungot@88.98.228.179 JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 < 1622984680 411309 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie < 1622986304 493947 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie do threads in funge-98 have own stacks? < 1622986499 332899 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :or is it only one < 1622986605 714520 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess it's one and threads are just pointers, hm < 1622986933 902095 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1622986969 503065 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat > 1622987274 420840 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OLNMLN14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84083&oldid=84048 5* 03Grs 5* (+369) 10 < 1622987674 785745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen < 1622987773 482720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs : I guess it's one and threads are just pointers, hm <-- that sounds like it would be hard to program < 1622987821 437615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh remember the box256 thread model < 1622987869 633524 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(just a random association for "threads" and "hard to program") < 1622987883 772070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :i don't, should i be happy? :P < 1622987957 624543 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: I don't know. It was fun. I'm still on the official leaderboard. https://www.reddit.com/r/box256/comments/4dtkwb/official_leaderboard/ < 1622987973 58876 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But it was ages ago < 1622988012 376382 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it kind of died quickly < 1622988082 77091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( maybe it deadlocked ) < 1622988098 612388 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nah, people just lost interest < 1622988125 689451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :apathiclocked < 1622988800 444793 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1622988843 858746 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1622988958 144529 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN #esolangs iovoid :probably iovoid? < 1622988970 179519 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/bowserinator JOIN #esolangs Bowserinator :No VPS :( < 1622990822 689551 :vyv!~vyv@bras-vprn-nrbaon0452w-lp130-19-76-68-67-150.dsl.bell.ca JOIN #esolangs vyv :vyv verver < 1622991390 671259 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: No, each thread has a separate stack. < 1622991419 959657 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: It's the (lesser-known) Befunge-97 or -96 (I forget which) where each thread shares the same stack, and doesn't even get its own stack pointer. < 1622991453 690104 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or more precisely, separate stack -> separate stack stack. < 1622991519 406728 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://quuxplusone.github.io/Fungus/docs/spec98.html#Concurrent "When a child IP is borne unto Funge-Space thus, its location, storage offset, and stack are all copied verbatim from the parent IP's." < 1622991533 382419 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"In Concurrent Funge, IP's are sometimes called threads and each has its own location, delta, and stack." < 1622991674 711410 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like the fact that -97's shared stack was practically impossible to program (you'd have to cycle-count everything to prevent the separate IPs from trampling all over what they're doing) is why 98 is the one that really "made it". < 1622991685 520123 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://catseye.tc/article/Languages.md#befunge-97 "Befunge-97 was an unimplemented attempt to design a successor to Befunge-93. The design, however, was not successful — it has been described as "brain-damaged" — primarily due to the fact that separate processes were specified as sharing a single stack." < 1622992124 71779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least it's definitely esoteric :P > 1622992472 34858 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NDBall14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84084&oldid=84054 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+99) 10/* 99 Bottles of beer on the wall */ > 1622992711 275294 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NDBall/Program Archive14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84085 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+77) 10Created page with "{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed nowrap" |+ | name |- |text |}" > 1622992879 92110 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NDBall/Program Archive14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84086&oldid=84085 5* 03Aspwil 5* (-5) 10 < 1622993487 339581 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Let's see if I could convince fungot to run under OpenRC's experimental service-supervisor, because why stick with something that works when you can introduce a new piece of nonsense in? < 1622993487 672972 :fungot!~fungot@88.98.228.179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: and if a lot of things to start getting such an awareness?? oh, yeh!! first you need to have +x attributes for the query. < 1622993506 75070 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That sounds vaguely unsettling, but I'll still go ahead with it. < 1622993513 936610 :fungot!~fungot@88.98.228.179 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1622993615 624552 :Guest9!~Guest9@2600:1700:9180:87b0:80ca:e60a:2432:d5ef JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest9 < 1622993631 971878 :Guest9!~Guest9@2600:1700:9180:87b0:80ca:e60a:2432:d5ef PRIVMSG #esolangs :NOTNEW < 1622993643 98566 :Guest9!~Guest9@2600:1700:9180:87b0:80ca:e60a:2432:d5ef PRIVMSG #esolangs :I WAS HERE YESTERDAY < 1622994040 746457 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :VERY LOUD < 1622994063 979521 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 < 1622994093 386875 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Did you gain some new kind of awareness from the new setup? < 1622994093 533498 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: the .deb worked here. hope it didn't break my notify like it did? < 1622994112 48879 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: happy to hear that < 1622994112 159641 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: no. the scsh manual is??? what about cfunge??? < 1622994130 194393 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: ...you've installed a .deb package in your new Alpine-based container? What are you even doing? < 1622994130 407491 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: it's hard in basic english....... huh.......interesting....... what kind of game, like e.g. procedure 6949 ( unnamed in fnord < 1622994140 127324 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: good question, what befunge implementation *are* you using? < 1622994140 247535 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: let tcl parse for me. < 1622994151 714488 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Spoilers: it's cfunge.) < 1622994151 762753 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: oh you poor little thing < 1622994151 995551 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: unless it divides by 0 in which case, treating it as a multimedia message to myself with the task of adding 10 directories to a list which the last element < 1622994203 98891 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :In retrospect, having a service manager that can restart it isn't *incredibly* useful for a bot that doesn't know how to auto-join any channels. < 1622994219 250068 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(nothing deserves to be implemented in TCL) < 1622994234 479014 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: hah < 1622994261 164500 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :have esolangs periodically tell fungot to join #esolangs < 1622994261 291654 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: must've been some tasteless slashem feature :) about 35 c today... it's warm < 1622994282 618699 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :In a sense it's a fail-safe feature, because it also doesn't know how to persist the ignore list, so this way I can pre-set it before telling it to join. < 1622994319 250083 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Are you measuring inside your chassis or something? I mean, it *is* warm, but it's not 35°C warm. < 1622994319 531704 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: " today in practice, i don't remember having been surprised. we can thank anselm for this wonderfully cyclic " proof." < 1622994339 864506 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course esolangs should also be on that ignore list, hmm < 1622994355 433916 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :temp1: +37.0°C // well, pretty close < 1622994401 762194 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: Actually, how did you get access to those sensors, you're supposed to be running in a KVM thing? < 1622994401 948459 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: cookie monster used to scare me as a sort of regex, except limited, something that evaluate lambda calculus in haskell notation. < 1622994413 609971 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Fine, be that way. Uppity bot. < 1622994557 898543 :Guest9!~Guest9@2600:1700:9180:87b0:80ca:e60a:2432:d5ef QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1622994704 647476 :Guest9!~Guest9@2600:1700:9180:87b0:80ca:e60a:2432:d5ef JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest9 < 1622994964 481490 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could write a script to my own irssi instance to periodically check if it's missing; if so, whois it to verify it's connected and authenticated; then set that ignore list and tell it to join. But maybe it's just easier to fix those things in the Befunge code. < 1622995457 465202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :`addquote I could write a script to my own irssi instance to periodically check if it's missing; if so, whois it to verify it's connected and authenticated; then set that ignore list and tell it to join. But maybe it's just easier to fix those things in the Befunge code. < 1622995460 905271 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1333) I could write a script to my own irssi instance to periodically check if it's missing; if so, whois it to verify it's connected and authenticated; then set that ignore list and tell it to join. But maybe it's just easier to fix those things in the Befunge code. < 1622996674 635303 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :haha < 1622997408 172557 :V!~v@anomalous.eu JOIN #esolangs V :Wie? < 1622997548 630146 :Guest9!~Guest9@2600:1700:9180:87b0:80ca:e60a:2432:d5ef QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1622997776 621770 :Guest9!~Guest9@2600:1700:9180:87b0:80ca:e60a:2432:d5ef JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest9 < 1622999292 653288 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1623000474 581053 :vyv!~vyv@bras-vprn-nrbaon0452w-lp130-19-76-68-67-150.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1623000565 798756 :Guest9!~Guest9@2600:1700:9180:87b0:80ca:e60a:2432:d5ef QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1623001129 947677 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1623001503 641652 :dyeplexer!~dyeplexer@user/dyeplexer QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1623002285 482318 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/ntnsrs/the_logic_gate_adventure/ > 1623003740 752326 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FourQueue14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84087 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+3216) 10Created FourQueue > 1623003803 762732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84088&oldid=84012 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+16) 10/* F */ Added FourQueue > 1623003877 352659 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Caenbe14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84089&oldid=83989 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+89) 10Added FourQueue > 1623004585 908213 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84090 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+4) 10Created page with "Temp" > 1623005403 966486 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84091&oldid=84090 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+1495) 10 > 1623005940 34102 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FourQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84092&oldid=84087 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+11) 10Changed because having a 0 in front is a huge issue. This language may need work still. > 1623005962 230480 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84093&oldid=84091 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+1237) 10/* Instructions */ > 1623006094 774225 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84094&oldid=84093 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+9) 10/* Instructions */ > 1623006125 971793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84095&oldid=84094 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+28) 10/* Instructions */ > 1623006294 111267 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84096&oldid=84095 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+167) 10/* Instructions */ > 1623006317 471680 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FourQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84097&oldid=84092 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+127) 10/* Computational class */ > 1623006407 664805 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FourQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84098&oldid=84097 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+1) 10/* Computational class */ > 1623006492 292638 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84099&oldid=84096 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+4) 10 > 1623006601 757458 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84100&oldid=84099 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+280) 10 > 1623006616 80856 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84101&oldid=84100 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+15) 10/* Hello, world! in Purl */ > 1623006618 481405 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FourQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84102&oldid=84098 5* 03Caenbe 5* (-11) 10Undo revision 84092 by [[Special:Contributions/Caenbe|Caenbe]] ([[User talk:Caenbe|talk]]) Never mind, I'm an idiot. I will leave this as-is unless someone has a good objection. > 1623006713 797114 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84103&oldid=84101 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+803) 10/* Hello, world! in Purl */ > 1623006737 775840 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84104&oldid=84103 5* 03GotCubes 5* (-443) 10/* Hello, world! in Purl */ > 1623006752 958797 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84105&oldid=84104 5* 03GotCubes 5* (-362) 10/* Hello, world! in Purl */ > 1623007047 417189 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84106&oldid=84105 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+10) 10/* Hello, world! in Purl */ > 1623007241 970379 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84107&oldid=84106 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+568) 10/* Hello, world! in Purl */ > 1623007410 345595 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84108&oldid=84107 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+192) 10/* Hello, world! */ > 1623007672 342413 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84109&oldid=84108 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+498) 10/* Truth Machine */ > 1623007903 129864 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84110&oldid=84109 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+318) 10/* 4-Function Calculator */ > 1623007938 320091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84111&oldid=84110 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+30) 10/* 4-Function Calculator */ > 1623008258 482443 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84112&oldid=84111 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+800) 10/* 4-Function Calculator */ < 1623008327 26108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite > 1623008373 122550 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84113&oldid=84112 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+1) 10 > 1623008404 220597 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84114&oldid=84113 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+72) 10 > 1623008561 684133 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03GotCubes 5* 10moved [[02Purl10]] to [[*Purl]] > 1623008584 785424 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84117&oldid=84115 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+4) 10 > 1623008628 894924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84118&oldid=84117 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+0) 10/* Example Programs */ > 1623008678 29734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84119&oldid=84118 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+50) 10 > 1623008693 551870 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84120&oldid=84119 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+1) 10 > 1623009288 151811 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Caenbe14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84121&oldid=84089 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+95) 10Organized my langs a bit > 1623009432 857999 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07*Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84122&oldid=84120 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+257) 10 > 1623009534 714408 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move_redir10 02 5* 03GotCubes 5* 10moved [[02*Purl10]] to [[Purl]] over redirect > 1623009534 721919 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete_redir10 02 5* 03GotCubes 5* 10GotCubes deleted redirect [[02Purl10]] by overwriting: Deleted to make way for move from "[[*Purl]]" > 1623009567 456084 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84125&oldid=84123 5* 03GotCubes 5* (-91) 10 > 1623009653 538750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84126&oldid=84088 5* 03GotCubes 5* (+11) 10/* P */ > 1623009973 471073 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FourQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84127&oldid=84102 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+47) 10/* Programs */ Extra detail < 1623010981 590329 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :"space" is often used for whitespace, so searching is difficult; are there documented languages whose objects are spaces? < 1623011055 560602 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Metric spaces, topological spaces, combinatoric spaces, I'm not choosy. (I'm not Chu-sey? Chu spaces would be okay too.) < 1623011088 915959 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Chu spaces are the best. < 1623011127 532197 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does "object" mean types or values? < 1623011275 268893 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.226.66.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1623013529 868010 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :2D or 3D? < 1623013536 503148 :Soni!~quassel@autistic.space PRIVMSG #esolangs :(spaces, that is) < 1623013607 766305 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :"dimension" is a very vague word. < 1623013901 640883 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, whose values are spaces. It's pretty common for a language to have types as spaces, like a space of numbers or a space of strings. But I want to manipulate spaces as values. > 1623015272 497061 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FourQueue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84128&oldid=84127 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+12) 10Formatting; switch to Unicode < 1623016927 692056 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 JOIN #esolangs salpynx :[https://kiwiirc.com] salpynx < 1623017327 535710 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been looking into topology of esolangs recently. I was trying to make a funge on an n-torus playfield, but have realised befunge and Rasel with jumps (trampoline/bridge) are just as n-torusy as what I had in mind < 1623017523 552803 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm in the process of writing a tool to graph the control flow of various languages to get an idea of how they can be embedded, to discover what kind of graph can be embedded on an (n>1)-torus < 1623017612 793862 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It does BCT, brainfuck, and python (to some extend; it ignores function calls atm). Next step is Befunge / Rasel. I'm especially interested in how rotations differ from reflections in the graph, and how to represent that. < 1623017780 492516 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Relating to the space question, I had thought of making each program symbol a 2d region on a surface rather that a point, which is what they seem to be by default. Rotations in space would then be real rotations in space, not just choosing a labelled edge to move to < 1623017801 711217 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's all program space topology though, not data space < 1623018334 258178 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hm, I have a WIP 2D rewriting language that has stalled. That might benefit from being thought of as "space rewriting" rather than graph (or net) rewriting < 1623019472 947227 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1623019588 999991 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BrainDots14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84129 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+595) 10init > 1623020748 713144 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Purl14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84130&oldid=84125 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+4) 10Grammar < 1623021542 103985 :V!~v@anomalous.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1623021927 512987 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minsky Swap14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84131&oldid=84036 5* 03Caenbe 5* (+2) 10/* Computational class */ Nice codeboxes < 1623023191 753523 :V!~v@anomalous.eu JOIN #esolangs V :Wie?