< 1623370205 974400 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Have you played the "Gruniozerca" series of computer games? Do you know if they will make a fourth? < 1623370783 718889 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :horraaaaaay https://i.imgur.com/wpdljVj.png < 1623370938 389034 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was thinking about this for ~10 years and finally made it < 1623370979 217829 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :whazzat. < 1623371058 188133 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :corrected shape of captcha word https://i.imgur.com/MTplwa8.png < 1623371283 263996 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :few minutes think up, ten years of hesitating and few hours to implement < 1623372897 244809 :warlock!~warlock@c-73-224-231-78.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs warlock :warlock < 1623372956 43483 :jinn!~jinn@d.jinn.army JOIN #esolangs jinn :"just jinn" < 1623374150 803272 :yuu!sid267332@id-267332.charlton.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs yuu :yuu < 1623376480 839714 :isodt!~isodt@user/isodt JOIN #esolangs isodt :isodt < 1623378986 834646 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: great < 1623379004 438507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: I'd still like to know if you have more example inputs of those captchas < 1623379854 739581 :isodt!~isodt@user/isodt QUIT :Quit: bye < 1623381032 661417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite > 1623381070 753052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84334&oldid=83857 5* 03Goglesq 5* (+19) 10/* math(variable, equation) */ > 1623381141 821582 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84335&oldid=84334 5* 03Goglesq 5* (-5) 10/* getin(variable) */ < 1623381213 44521 :warlock!~warlock@c-73-224-231-78.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1623381283 159199 :isodt!~isodt@user/isodt JOIN #esolangs isodt :isodt > 1623381451 759532 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03HecknTarnation 5* 10New user account < 1623381735 885423 :jryans!~jryansmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1d QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds > 1623381858 576584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84336&oldid=84324 5* 03HecknTarnation 5* (+214) 10 < 1623382256 692782 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1623382500 298656 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1623388460 198943 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1623390541 682313 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1623391734 602243 :warlock!~warlock@c-73-224-231-78.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs warlock :warlock < 1623391972 173294 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now I made in Free Hero Mesh that it remembers which levels you have solved and it is writing the level number green in that case, rather than red. However, it does not yet have a menu to display a list of all of the levels, nor the possibility to make a SQL query on the list of levels; hopefully these things can be added in future < 1623395459 507420 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_Jonas not yet, gotta collect them for ml anyway < 1623395566 276778 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thelounge is weird on mobile. Keyboard takes one half of screen. Browser address bar, topic and input takes another half. Can't read while typing < 1623395595 161400 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1623395619 876438 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-63.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1623395794 541674 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :Still have no idea why right 9 columns were not full < 1623396233 68601 :jryans!~jryansmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1d JOIN #esolangs * :@jryans:matrix.org < 1623396452 969218 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also imgur is awful on mobile ( < 1623396923 194779 :monoxane!~monoxane@119-18-17-227.771211.mel.static.aussiebb.net QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1623396948 383471 :monoxane!~monoxane@119-18-17-227.771211.mel.static.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs monoxane :monoxane < 1623396980 329210 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :(better if you switch to desktop mode) < 1623397343 478595 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Killed (ozone (No Spam)) < 1623397478 857506 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1623397717 115565 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623398216 277495 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1623398856 498450 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1623398980 476506 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1623399124 471510 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1623399521 728910 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think someone already joked about ACIDIC language but I came up with yet another deacronymization: “allegedly circuitous immaterial divine instruction code” < 1623403494 151480 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him < 1623405690 18361 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie < 1623405704 204413 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1623406036 719558 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1623407648 433671 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Quit: tech_exorcist < 1623408075 299641 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623408784 642445 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1623410090 682686 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1623410144 519080 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1623411606 555955 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1623412748 176214 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him < 1623413573 689243 :andydude!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs andydude :Andrew Robbins < 1623413713 161621 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1623414096 641987 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NOTE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84337&oldid=84284 5* 03ResU 5* (+329) 10Two cats, no dogs < 1623414327 287084 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1623414611 105147 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NOTE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84338&oldid=84337 5* 03ResU 5* (+97) 10 < 1623414696 947291 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :arseniiv wasn't here a hackeso command to generate abbreviations? < 1623414718 870733 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*deacronymizations < 1623414741 89991 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: hmmm don’t think I’ve seen one! > 1623414751 143659 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NOTE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84339&oldid=84338 5* 03ResU 5* (+1) 10 < 1623414753 943669 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :hackeso needs a regex search for commands by name and/or description < 1623414771 188565 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :playing FEZ right now, it’s a great fun < 1623414974 125925 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel handicated having no logs search in Thelounge < 1623414979 959425 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*handicaped < 1623415074 331213 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and there is no website with #esolangs log search, right? < 1623415251 180330 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm I thought there were pages with each full year of logs but there are only full-month pages < 1623415308 213830 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: do you know where can the logs be searched? < 1623415588 787558 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1623415609 79467 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how unreasonable would a 20MB web page be in 2021? < 1623415624 410024 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know that ridiculous web pages sizes are common, but am not sure if they can reasonably be *that* large > 1623415864 256287 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Delta Salein Ao14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84340&oldid=84172 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+9) 10Stub < 1623415890 108735 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1623416001 527900 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NOTE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84341&oldid=84339 5* 03ResU 5* (+195) 10 < 1623416079 820827 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: 20 MB is possible if it serves multiple high resolution images or a small video < 1623416135 757324 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1623416152 532697 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in this case, it would be 20MB of compressed text < 1623416169 524513 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the context is, trying to host an esolang interpreter < 1623416178 785796 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that uses a compression algorithm with a really big dictionary < 1623416179 536153 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I’d add if the large part of its content is cacheable then maybe not that bad < 1623416197 575710 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: "a regex search for commands by name" => grep -Eie "$1" /hackenv/share/whatis < 1623416200 892919 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it should be cacheable, although actually getting it to be cached would be a little harder < 1623416231 750161 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: we don't currently have a log search, you'd have to download the logs and search them locally. fizzie was vaguely planning to set up a log search. < 1623416233 224341 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I meant cacheable by a poor browser :) < 1623416270 691603 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1623416273 132341 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess the part that's unlikely to change should be on a separate page and loaded by XHR or JSONP or whatever, so that we can change it without invalidating the cache < 1623416303 441814 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I think that sounds reasonable then, just perhaps make a landing page with human-readable description of what you're doing that doesn't load that < 1623416319 480292 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it only loads the dictionary if the viewer actually wants to use it < 1623416332 229093 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could even load it lazily, I guess < 1623416341 680321 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait until there's an attempt to compress or decompress a string < 1623416341 730981 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean at least if the user wants to evaluate something < 1623416348 614668 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :not necessarily that lazily < 1623416351 910230 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though that's certainly possible < 1623416405 63418 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been pondering finding some way to split the dictionary up into, say, 65536 separate files, so that we only load the parts of the dictionary that are actually needed < 1623416421 305371 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that means that each individual part would compress less well < 1623416438 138543 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"loaded by XHR or JSONP" => that might be overcomplicating it, unless you really want to make it lazy. it could just be a javascript or web assembly or an uncompressed image file that the page loads normally, and then access the blob in it from the interpreter javascript < 1623416458 614384 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :through the canvas API if it's an image < 1623416484 969142 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"65536 separate files" => um, is your compression algorithm such that that actually works? < 1623416491 761027 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the canvas API doesn't exist nowadays, I thought? so that you couldn't fingerprint a browser by measuring how its rendering works < 1623416517 908104 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also that sounds too many chunks for a 20 MB file that you're sending through network < 1623416530 921390 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1623416550 943268 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I don't know, I think the canvas API still exists, but if not, there's probably a modern replacement like webGL or whatever < 1623416580 718955 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1623416587 530601 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :why does my IRC client keep segfaulting < 1623416597 180007 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe 65536 is too many, and it should be 1024 or 2048 or so < 1623416626 95571 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, still too many, that would make the individual chunks only 10K < 1623416632 613498 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'd make them at least 100K sized < 1623416636 269217 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, you'd need to access multiple chunks, most likely < 1623416650 500001 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :with 10K there'd be significant protocol overhead < 1623416654 972086 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for retreiving the files < 1623416655 20217 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've been looking at various compression algorithms (including trying to invent my own) < 1623416675 124319 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but if canvas doesn't work, then just a javascript or web assembly file containing a blob (or multiple smaller blobs) < 1623416685 390471 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :prezip followed by one of the usual general-purpose compressors (gzip, bzip2, xz, etc.) seems to be the best algorithm < 1623416691 669636 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably gzip because web browsers have that already < 1623416692 442776 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or you can make it XHR and cache it to local storage < 1623416704 244648 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and prezip's compression ratio is hardly hurt by cutting the file and compressing the two bits separately < 1623416716 528971 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: can you decompress xz client-side in the browser? < 1623416736 909654 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well there are couple of megabytes of webassembly in here too, so probably < 1623416750 33431 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but relying on browers' built in gunzips would be easier < 1623416755 94453 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well yes, it's Turing-complete, but like efficiently < 1623416780 901395 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is an esolang, efficiency is just a bonus :-D < 1623416794 653882 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've mostly been aiming for good asymptotic complexity but ignoring the constant factors < 1623416803 656011 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh < 1623416809 353512 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and decompressing a specific, fixed dictionary is O(1) so it doesn't matter < 1623416824 842285 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if it's for good asymptotic complexity then your 20 MB dictionary is too small :-) < 1623416840 717798 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is the largest dictionary I could find :-) < 1623416854 785308 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is 9.4 MB uncompressed < 1623416871 991754 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and you want to compress it to 20 MB? brilliant < 1623416876 355739 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(sorry) < 1623416889 776363 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry, 94 MB uncompressed < 1623416907 453956 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :these numbers get so big that it's hard to count the digits in them < 1623416916 357564 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's betteer < 1623416967 94988 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thanks for the advice, I'll think about this some more < 1623416968 426160 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.240.226 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1623417239 143846 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623418094 738697 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1623418803 205083 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Primes14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84342 5* 03Meloons 5* (+15387) 10Added Page < 1623419735 167938 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1623419935 756290 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1623419986 981332 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him > 1623421466 442254 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84343&oldid=84298 5* 03Toxinite 5* (+12) 10Added Qoibl < 1623422240 770047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1623422373 300356 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1623422420 500779 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat > 1623422892 35871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Qoibl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84344&oldid=84333 5* 03Toxinite 5* (+184) 10 > 1623423899 489267 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Qoibl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84345&oldid=84344 5* 03Toxinite 5* (+66) 10 < 1623424929 825443 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1623426233 327412 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Qoibl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84346&oldid=84345 5* 03Toxinite 5* (+347) 10 > 1623426647 779498 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Toxinite14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84347 5* 03Toxinite 5* (+56) 10Created page with "I am a person who likes esolangs ==Esolangs== *[[Qoibl]]" < 1623426749 841618 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1623426795 601012 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Piet14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84348&oldid=76238 5* 03Gilbert189 5* (+64) 10/* Direction pointer */ (Lists exists) < 1623427400 336165 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I've snapped. I propose an abomination: https://bpa.st/WVZQ Can any category theorists confirm that I'm on a decent track? < 1623428922 897519 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1623428936 964014 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1623428964 84473 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him < 1623429060 381539 :jryans!~jryansmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1d QUIT :*.net *.split < 1623429060 524060 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1623429060 572027 :mistbreeze_!~mistbreez@2600:1700:b7e0:8320:71da:707a:d9c1:c852 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1623429060 620270 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1623429060 668263 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/ansible.staff.relrod QUIT :*.net *.split < 1623429060 786659 :mich181189!sid268336@londonhackspace/mich181189 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1623429060 786705 :shikhin!~shikhin@user/shikhin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1623429161 613244 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1623429208 192818 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1623429443 126489 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1623429452 690827 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space JOIN #esolangs * :shikhin < 1623429493 945382 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space CHGHOST ~shikhin :user/shikhin < 1623429510 86918 :Deewiant!~deewiant@de1.ut.deewiant.iki.fi JOIN #esolangs Deewiant :Matti Niemenmaa < 1623430247 173290 :relrod!~relrod@redhat/ansible.staff.relrod JOIN #esolangs relrod :rickymain < 1623430247 684782 :mich181189!sid268336@londonhackspace/mich181189 JOIN #esolangs mich181189 :Michael < 1623430250 818772 :mistbreeze_!~mistbreez@2600:1700:b7e0:8320:d804:8caf:4f02:586 JOIN #esolangs * :jessica < 1623430256 835609 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 JOIN #esolangs Taneb :Nathan van Doorn < 1623431089 762589 :jryans!~jryansmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1d JOIN #esolangs * :@jryans:matrix.org < 1623431199 206535 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1623431903 869267 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1623432079 507398 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623432107 86122 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1623432228 18624 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :UTF-8 in brainfuck? < 1623432292 886621 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :easily done < 1623432312 39413 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :make . print out bytes instead if chars, done > 1623432344 906541 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Among Us14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84349&oldid=84293 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (-733) 10 < 1623432368 995640 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs ::O < 1623432401 950042 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't that how most BF impls work anyway? > 1623432403 827951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Among Us14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84350&oldid=84349 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+7) 10 < 1623432421 711764 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably, yeah < 1623432444 526664 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's harder to make bf not support utf8 < 1623432450 111891 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :brainfuck isn't limited to text data < 1623432473 166369 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :the only issue i'm aware of with processing arbitrary binary data is that you can't distinguish a null byte from EOF < 1623432498 175062 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that presents no additional issues for UTF-8 compared to ASCII < 1623432520 729263 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :because in both codes the null byte is only used to represent the null character and never for anything else > 1623432547 850131 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Among us.png10]]": Logo for the Among Us programming language > 1623432719 472369 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Among Us14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84352&oldid=84350 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+77) 10 < 1623432727 295840 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :you still might want to implement some UTF-8-related algorithms in brainfuck like finding codepoint boundaries or whatever < 1623432733 305178 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that shouldn't be particularly challenging < 1623432931 904591 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :UTF-8 is a superset of ASCII, so if your program is using only ASCII then it will work on a terminal emulator with any ASCII superset, including UTF-8. The brainfuck program can easily output any data, whether ASCII, UTF-8, binary, or ANSI escapes. I think there are some extensions for doing other functions than only standard I/O if wanted too (which is not specific to brainfuck but to anything that is only standard I/O) < 1623432959 522115 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also the representation of EOF in brainfuck depends on the implementation I think; some use 0, some use 255, some leave it unchanged, I don't know if some terminate on EOF < 1623432995 70884 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although, if you need to input UTF-8 with nulls you can use the overlong null character encoding, I suppose > 1623433045 388941 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Amongus.png10]]": Among Us programming language logo > 1623433065 98407 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Among Us14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84354&oldid=84352 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (-1) 10 < 1623433133 519254 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :im curious about the following concept? < 1623433144 342278 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :consider some kind of programming language that runs in one node < 1623433148 590431 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :and has the ability to talk to other nodes < 1623433151 206088 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but is not turing complete < 1623433155 744900 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would be a good unambiguous way to handle EOF in brainfuck? add another command to ask if EOF has been reached? < 1623433160 47172 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is not turing complete with 2 or 3 or 4 nodes < 1623433163 744374 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it is turing complete with 5 nodes < 1623433173 214952 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :(5 chosen arbitarily for this example) < 1623433177 43098 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :"leave unchanged" works too but only if the cells are allowed to contain values outside [0..255] < 1623433205 970482 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :or -1 on EOF would work if your cells can go negative < 1623434200 793406 :craigo!~craigo@180-150-37-63.b49625.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1623434238 59023 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: well, you can easily do something like splitting bf programs so that each cell runs its own program, i guess < 1623434265 429868 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and iirc bf with 3 (or 2?) unlimited cells is TC, but it is not with one < 1623434271 483105 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, TIS-100 < 1623434982 689133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen < 1623435363 150561 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1623435468 918400 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow! < 1623435485 153008 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hould really play TIS-100 < 1623435562 104360 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :5 might also happen to be the magic numbers where The Waterfall Model becomes TC, though it's quite likely that we'll never know the exact number < 1623435659 718795 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1623435972 259058 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623436175 108983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :RAAAAIN < 1623436179 670739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :@metar ENVA < 1623436181 28958 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :ENVA 111820Z 12003KT 090V180 9999 SCT014 BKN024 OVC040 16/13 Q1001 TEMPO SHRA SCT008 BKN014 RMK WIND 670FT 08005KT < 1623436227 958551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm i don't know if any of that means rain. < 1623436268 252944 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :@metar koak < 1623436268 427438 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :KOAK 111753Z 22005KT 10SM FEW010 SCT200 16/09 A3011 RMK AO2 SLP197 T01610089 10161 20100 58003 < 1623436623 693242 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1623436791 255539 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: everybody should play every zach-like! < 1623437095 478445 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs ::0 < 1623437100 178616 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i played lots of magnum opus, that was great < 1623439097 426350 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: TEMPO SHRA means a little bit of showers, I think. < 1623439101 707150 :andydude!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1623439133 894906 :andydude!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs andydude :Andrew Robbins < 1623439389 128804 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623439831 628145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah < 1623441712 783969 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :TIS-100 is fun < 1623441718 489448 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is The Waterfall Model? < 1623442998 414739 :andydude!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: andydude < 1623443187 318994 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN #esolangs rbtEngrDude :Textual User > 1623443494 434032 PRIVMSG #esolangs : some clever device for software salesmen to make lots of green paper < 1623444160 1994 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's that, too, but I rather think here it was a reference to https://esolangs.org/wiki/The_Waterfall_Model < 1623444167 938988 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623444271 821170 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN #esolangs rbtEngrDude :Textual User < 1623444457 897177 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :keegan: https://esolangs.org/wiki/The_Waterfall_Model < 1623444507 481624 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1623444600 703723 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, that's pretty neat < 1623444652 475185 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1623445083 429269 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :moon < 1623445378 497929 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1623445765 817349 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Primes14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84355&oldid=84342 5* 03Meloons 5* (+107) 10Added GitHub Reference < 1623446154 473227 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1623447073 479285 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1623447115 774292 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1623447435 949068 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623447605 756123 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN #esolangs rbtEngrDude :Textual User < 1623449090 160289 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1623449121 448899 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1623449401 727752 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Among Us14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84356&oldid=84354 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+711) 10 < 1623449478 692693 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN #esolangs rbtEngrDude :Textual User < 1623449834 677068 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1623449866 108520 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84357&oldid=84325 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+538) 10 < 1623449967 319550 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :accidentally won FEZ with 32 cubes or something. They say it has a better ending when you come with all 64 cubes < 1623450002 626174 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1623450098 378818 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84358&oldid=82876 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+410) 10 < 1623450152 689531 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was a bit confused when doors expecting 32 cubes opened for me when I had less. But in reality anti-cubes count to the overall number of cubes and that’s even displayed when the gate opens, flashing briefly squares of two different colors, each square for each cube you have. I didn’t notice that at first < 1623452549 439060 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1623452553 518439 :mistbreeze_!~mistbreez@2600:1700:b7e0:8320:d804:8caf:4f02:586 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1623452562 50168 :mistbreeze_!~mistbreez@2600:1700:b7e0:8320:d804:8caf:4f02:586 JOIN #esolangs * :jessica < 1623452669 824081 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1623452692 360945 :mistbreeze_!~mistbreez@2600:1700:b7e0:8320:d804:8caf:4f02:586 NICK :mistbreeze < 1623452696 426319 :mistbreeze!~mistbreez@2600:1700:b7e0:8320:d804:8caf:4f02:586 QUIT :Client Quit < 1623452710 206153 :mistbreeze!~mistbreez@2600:1700:b7e0:8320:d804:8caf:4f02:586 JOIN #esolangs mistbreeze :jessica < 1623452739 219986 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 QUIT :Quit: tech_exorcist < 1623453358 808382 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-91.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, was the safety pin of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch one of the True Nails with which Our Lord and Savior was crucified, and if so, through which of his body parts was it hammered? < 1623453359 40769 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it's not functional and it's barely turing complete with an ugly memory model for a multiplexer and an encoder/ decoder to/ from < 1623453492 809325 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie < 1623453502 892594 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN #esolangs rbtEngrDude :Textual User < 1623454559 917145 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@wsip-66-210-249-144.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com > 1623455511 748807 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NOTE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84359&oldid=84341 5* 03ResU 5* (+38) 10