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04:36:36 <keegan> didn't find any edible mushrooms
04:36:40 <keegan> but I had a great time
04:37:20 <keegan> drove by them on the way in
04:37:39 <keegan> cubs immediately climbed trees and they all stared at us until we moved on
04:38:23 <keegan> also a deer walked right through camp, i didn't see it as I was half asleep but I heard what in retrospect must have been it, and found a pile of fresh deer poop right by my tent
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04:44:59 <pikhq> keegan: wow! sounds like a lovely trip :)
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08:09:57 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Community portal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84571&oldid=83835 * Fizzie * (-263) /* IRC */ Remove the part about the bridge.
08:10:31 <Taneb> I guess the bridge has now been burnt to ashes
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08:12:21 <fizzie> It doesn't have the other endpoint now, so.
08:12:42 <fizzie> If you want to bridge #esolangs somewhere else, let me know, I've got the code all ready to go though. ;)
08:13:40 <fizzie> (But it'd still have to be an IRC network, so probably that's not too useful.)
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08:32:09 <b_jonas> fizzie: for your question, yes, it's OK if you stop the bridge now
08:36:14 <Taneb> We could set up a bridge with #esoteric on DALNet and confuse everybody involed
08:37:26 <fizzie> https://netsplit.de/channels/details.php?room=%23esoteric&net=DALnet suggests it's not exactly active.
08:38:34 <fizzie> There's an #esoteric on IRCnet, though, with the topic of "www.mathematicon.com www.sacred-texts.com armageddonconspiracy.co.uk |Welcome to Universal Light Society!|Join us on EFnet; we'll relay w/IRCnet later.| !help" which sounds more promising.
08:39:10 <fizzie> (The alleged EFnet one didn't come up in the search.)
08:39:30 <b_jonas> we could set up a bridge from #esoteric whichever tree of freenode canaima lands on to the actual canaima support channel
08:40:05 <b_jonas> that would also confuse everyone if they went there to talk about esolangs
08:40:48 <HackEso> Canaima is a secret Venezuelan project to overrun #esoteric with incomprehensible people who have no idea why they're here.
08:41:19 <b_jonas> ``` sed "s/re here/re there/" /hackenv/wisdom/canaima
08:41:20 <HackEso> Canaima is a secret Venezuelan project to overrun #esoteric with incomprehensible people who have no idea why they're there.
08:41:25 <b_jonas> ``` sed -i "s/re here/re there/" /hackenv/wisdom/canaima
08:41:28 <HackEso> /hackenv/wisdom/canaima//Canaima is a secret Venezuelan project to overrun #esoteric with incomprehensible people who have no idea why they're there.
08:42:07 <fizzie> I also came across https://zem.fi/tmp/hmm.jpg on wall while on a walk yesterday, does that count as esoteric ("confined to and understandable by only an enlightened inner circle")?
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10:04:22 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84572&oldid=84564 * Matthilde * (+160) /* Introductions */
10:16:02 <esolangs> [[User:Matthilde]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84573 * Matthilde * (+1130) created page
10:54:13 <myname> https://twitter.com/dave_universetf/status/1402743978483585026 completely missed that one
10:55:54 <Taneb> I'm really glad I dropped my freenode account when I did
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11:24:39 <fizzie> Oh, right, HackEso config needs updating too.
11:35:49 <fizzie> Technically not to a degree a restart is needed, but let's just do one anyway, to make sure it still works afterwards.
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11:51:09 <fizzie> Are they chanting "iä! iä! cthulhu fhtagn!" at the primary school outside? I think I probably just misheard.
12:18:39 <Taneb> It's certainly possible
12:18:56 <nakilon> looks like you really can't drop the topic
12:22:54 <nakilon> feels good to come only to flame and accuse others in it?
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12:28:47 <HackEso> PATH=/hackenv/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ TERM=linux \ HOME=/tmp \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ IRC_NICK=wib_jonas \ IRC_IDENT=~wib_jonas \ IRC_HOST=business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu \ IRC_COMMAND=PRIVMSG \ IRC_TARGET=#esolangs \ IRC_MESSAGE=`env \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8
12:29:18 <wib_jonas> fizzie: if you mess around with HackEso's config, I know it's stupid future compatibility, but can you add a variable with the IRC network name?
12:29:52 <Taneb> wib_jonas: is that sensible when it could be bridged between multiple networks?
12:31:13 <wib_jonas> Taneb: the replies are bridged but it only listens to commands locally, not to bridged commands. this it's the sort of thing that would have made slightly more sense months ago though, now it will hopefully just be a constant libera.chat, though of course $HACKENV is a "constant" and the nickname "HackEso" is a "constant" too
12:32:17 <wib_jonas> I mean someone even mentioned that they might want to run a HackEso instance
12:32:30 <wib_jonas> as an esoteric experiment or something
12:33:41 <wib_jonas> if there's multiple instances, they can be distinguished by something on the file system, but for the config that HackEso had for a short period when it was connected to two networks, that's ... still possible obviously, but less natural
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13:17:22 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84577&oldid=84518 * AceKiron * (+13)
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13:27:56 <fizzie> Hmm, right. I could. I did keep some other bits of the setup to make it easier in the future to run a second instance, anyway.
13:30:28 <fizzie> Although there's still that one bit that made the replies go to the wrong network initially, namely that the socket used by multibot internally is hardcoded to be /tmp/multibot.%s, where the %s is the nickname, but both instances had `HackEso` for a nick.
13:32:43 <esolangs> [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84582&oldid=84580 * AceKiron * (+46)
13:33:47 <esolangs> [[Funcinton]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84583&oldid=84578 * Monochromeninja * (+6) /* External resources */ Updated reference interpreter
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13:54:00 <wib_jonas> wait, a hardcoded name under /tmp ? isn't that a bad idea, because usually anyone can create files in /tmp so you can't reserve any specific name unless you never remove it?
13:54:51 <wib_jonas> I thought if you want a specific name, you use a directory that not everyone can write\
13:55:21 <wib_jonas> whereas if you want /tmp , you allow a dynamically generated name that you remember somehow
13:55:39 <fizzie> It's probably a bad idea, yeah, but that's how multibot is. I don't think it's a huge deal for this particular use case. It will just fail to start if it's unable to bind the socket.
13:55:53 <fizzie> (And the file's pretty much permanent.)
14:01:41 <esolangs> [[Fohc]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84584 * Matthilde * (+7146) Created Fohc page
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14:03:14 <fizzie> `` echo $IRC_INSTANCE / $IRC_NETWORK
14:03:15 <HackEso> HackEso-libera / Libera.Chat
14:03:59 <fizzie> One's just an arbitrary "internal" identifier, the other is the network name from the 005 numeric (with a default supplied on startup).
14:05:05 <HackEso> PATH=/hackenv/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ TERM=linux \ HOME=/tmp \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ IRC_INSTANCE=HackEso-libera \ IRC_NETWORK=Libera.Chat \ IRC_NICK=wib_jonas \ IRC_IDENT=~wib_jonas \ IRC_HOST=business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu \ IRC_COMMAND=PRIVMSG \ IRC_TARGET=#esolangs \ IRC_MESSAGE=`env \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8
14:06:29 <wib_jonas> I might use this to fuzz with /hackenv/bin/coins a bit because libera still is a name that sounds like a cryptocurrency
14:07:38 <fizzie> It does. Also, I don't know why there's a rainwords integrated in `coins, I've wondered about the same. Maybe it's to make the names stand out from each other a little more than just a space would (but that argument would apply to all `words-derived things).
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15:04:56 <esolangs> [[Shuffle]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84587&oldid=84313 * Enoua5 * (+6364) Add Rule 110 implementation
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15:39:51 <esolangs> [[Among Us]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84593&oldid=84461 * Zero player rodent * (-144)
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18:37:54 <esolangs> [[Godencode]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84606&oldid=84574 * Plasmath * (+7994) Added multiplication program.
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20:12:34 <nakilon> 17:06:29 <wib_jonas> I might use this to fuzz with /hackenv/bin/coins
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20:17:35 <HackEso> strecoin bakecoin netcoin excitocoin sepercoin :coin erlietcoin bonymcoin hydrodcoin staclecoin rancoin ortecoin braiulcoin dimacoin d1secoin xxpcoin impovabllacklecoin quartreecoin tlwnncoin sowthcoin
20:17:42 <keegan> i think it's rainbow because i made it and i like rainbows
20:17:52 <keegan> it sounds like the kind of thing i would do
20:21:07 <fizzie> It just keeps generating plausible names (bakecoin, netcoin, excitocoin, :coin, dimacoin, xxpcoin -- I'd believe all of those).
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20:23:37 <fizzie> Although maybe if :coin is pronounced "colon-coin" it's not the best of names.
20:32:54 <fizzie> I was going to say bakecoin you either buy baked goods with, or it's a weed reference, but apparently it's in fact "A Decentralized AMM Protocol on Binance Smart Chain with Liquidity Mining", according to https://research.binance.com/en/projects/bakerytoken
20:33:00 <fizzie> (Okay, it's not literally called "bakecoin", but the abbreviation is still BAKE.)
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22:41:10 <fizzie> Heh, I came across the "standby" page I set up for esolangs.org back when we were hosted on Cloud-at-Cost and it was flaking out.
22:41:22 <fizzie> "However, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm">I am certain the service provider is doing everything they possibly can to restore service in a timely manner</a>."
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23:24:21 <Guest86> I just wanted to ask a couple of questions about the esolang wiki
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23:30:55 <Corbin> Guest86: Folks are here; you should probably just ask.
23:32:03 <Guest86> I am working since 2017 to some sort of esoteric language, I was wondering if this is not off topic
23:33:06 <Guest86> and also if could have been interesting for the esolang community
23:33:11 <zzo38> What sort of esoteric language?
23:33:25 <Guest86> no will to spam, just looking for people passionate to this stuff as I am
23:33:27 <Guest86> https://github.com/gioblu/BIPLAN
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23:34:20 <Guest86> the implementation works well on linux, there is its compiler and interpreter ready
23:35:22 <esolangs> [[School]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84610&oldid=84607 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-3) No longer stub
23:36:12 <Guest86> I mean, I have tested them, they build fine and are ready to use, at least on the machine I have tested on.
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23:38:07 <Guest86> the point, is enough esoteric? it does not look as esoteric as many I can look on esolangs wiki
23:38:37 <zzo38> Do you have a document of the format of the compiled P-codes?
23:39:09 <Guest86> I tend to try to write very slick code and keep in there my spec
23:39:29 <Guest86> here is the spec of the byte codes https://github.com/gioblu/BIPLAN/blob/master/src/BIPLAN_Defines.h
23:40:46 <esolangs> [[XENBLN/Commands]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84611&oldid=81818 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+109) Update
23:41:29 <zzo38> It doesn't really explain it though; it only list of the codes
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23:43:06 <Guest86> excuse my ignorance, what you mean exactly
23:43:57 <esolangs> [[XENBLN/Commands]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84612&oldid=84611 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-80) Switch to groups
23:44:38 <Guest86> the interpreter is very simple: https://github.com/gioblu/BIPLAN/blob/master/src/BIPLAN.c is just a recursive descent parser reading ASCII bytecode
23:47:04 <Guest86> I discover only now that p-code is the right way to call what I defined as byte-code, thank you.
23:48:07 <oerjan> it does not seem esoteric to me
23:48:54 <Guest86> maybe the p-code itself may look so but not sure if it so
23:50:19 <zzo38> It just doesn't look to be very well designed to me, I think
23:52:29 <Guest86> it is difficult to find people happy to discuss this stuff nowadays, I would be very happy to hear what are the mistakes you see in it
23:53:04 <Guest86> by the way, I do not have a degree in compsci, just hacking around to learn
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23:54:53 <zzo38> For one thing, it exposes all of the functions; you should put "static" for the functions that should not be exposed. Another thing is that this is not really the best way to parse P-codes, nor the best way to compile source codes into P-codes
23:56:03 <Guest86> yes, sure, static is missing I will fix it as you suggested
23:56:51 <Guest86> you mean the recursive descent parser itself is inefficient? or the way I implemented it?
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