> 1624234567 608856 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* 10New user account < 1624236170 149482 :Sgeo|mibbit!18b9875e@ircip1.mibbit.com JOIN #esolangs * :ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net < 1624236189 748505 :Sgeo|mibbit!18b9875e@ircip1.mibbit.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1624237559 287331 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38 clipboard isn't necessary plain text, it can have rich text; it just needs even more rich text that would represent a portion of chat/comments with standard attributes like nickname, userpic, timestamp, message; the message may be a nested picture < 1624239116 486717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :the trouble is there are too many standards https://xkcd.com/927/ < 1624239586 81195 :mnrmnaugh!~mnrmnaugh@pool-96-252-87-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net PART #esolangs :Leaving < 1624239595 202605 :mnrmnaughmnrgle!~mnrmnaugh@pool-96-252-87-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net JOIN #esolangs mnrmnaugh :realname > 1624239663 835436 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84828&oldid=84798 5* 03Rphii 5* (+1686) 10/* Examples */ added "Hello, World!" program < 1624239739 546875 :mnrmnaughmnrgle!~mnrmnaugh@pool-96-252-87-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1624239759 192811 :mnrmnaugh!~mnrmnaugh@pool-96-252-87-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net JOIN #esolangs mnrmnaugh :realname > 1624239820 174076 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84829&oldid=84828 5* 03Rphii 5* (+146) 10/* [variable] */ clarified > 1624240768 944553 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84830&oldid=84829 5* 03Rphii 5* (+156) 10/* Hello, world! */ fixed a small mistake < 1624240851 487888 :slavfox!~slavfox@93.158.232.111 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1624240857 377812 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The different one are good for a different purposes, maybe, although sometimes some are just no good anyways, or they have various problems, advantages/disadvantages, etc < 1624240901 649357 :slavfox!~slavfox@ipv4-93-158-232-111.net.internetunion.pl JOIN #esolangs slavfox :slavfox > 1624241411 617931 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TheYoungestCoder 5* 10New user account > 1624246297 718538 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Qoibl14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84831&oldid=84641 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+0) 10 < 1624246536 218272 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1624246609 586860 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1624246610 161796 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1624248002 248634 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1624248015 995630 :spruit11_!~quassel@2a02:a467:ccd6:1:900d:ae1b:5c93:aaee JOIN #esolangs * :anon < 1624248157 141198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite > 1624248159 883059 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Qoibl14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84832&oldid=84831 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+14) 10 < 1624248177 671414 :user3456_!user3456@user/user3456 JOIN #esolangs user3456 :user3456 > 1624248314 617223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Qoibl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84833&oldid=84832 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+20) 10 < 1624248576 482643 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :*.net *.split < 1624248576 743843 :spruit11!~quassel@2a02:a467:ccd6:1:e147:257c:4e25:da17 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1624248576 743888 :user3456!user3456@user/user3456 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1624248577 996937 :user3456_!user3456@user/user3456 NICK :user3456 > 1624248939 523902 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Qoibl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84834&oldid=84833 5* 03Bangyen 5* (-26) 10 > 1624249339 830994 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Qoibl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84835&oldid=84834 5* 03Bangyen 5* (+101) 10 > 1624250361 749324 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* 10New user account > 1624250573 327893 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84836&oldid=84769 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* (+221) 10/* Introductions */ > 1624250756 559730 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84837&oldid=84836 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* (+0) 10/* Introductions */ > 1624253173 523038 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bin-snake14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84838 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* (+702) 10Created page with "Bin-snake is a Python wrapper, in Binary. Bin-snake converts a Bin-snake file (.bs) to Python code, and then executes it to Python. ===Writing Bin-snake=== With an understand..." > 1624253225 339329 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bin-snake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84839&oldid=84838 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* (+8) 10/* Running Bin-snake */ > 1624253242 239149 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bin-snake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84840&oldid=84839 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* (+0) 10/* Running Bin-snake */ > 1624253282 437478 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bin-snake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84841&oldid=84840 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* (+0) 10/* Running Bin-snake */ > 1624253298 475953 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bin-snake14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84842&oldid=84841 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* (-10) 10/* Running Bin-snake */ > 1624253398 521621 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84843&oldid=84744 5* 03Mecaneer23 5* (+16) 10/* B */ < 1624254271 632672 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1624254373 951129 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you like the Cistercian numbers? I think that there could be some improvements, such as the sign of 6 is no good and is better to make the sign of 6 to reverse the sign of 5, and also I can suggest to make place value of myriads, alternating upright (the low palce) and 90 degrees counterclockwise < 1624254613 647110 :archenoth!~archenoth@S0106889e6827f474.cg.shawcable.net JOIN #esolangs Archenoth :archenoth < 1624255840 636843 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1624257738 636453 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1624258041 623050 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1624259302 550414 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1624261602 314540 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :How strong is the connection between computing prefix sums and adding numbers with carry? < 1624261610 36291 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :There seems to be a lot of similarity. < 1624261711 1126 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Specifically, a prefix sum takes n elements and produces n+1 elements, where the last output is like the carry. < 1624261731 44627 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or you can say it takes n+1 and returns n+1, where the first input is added to every value (instead of having the first output be 0). < 1624261782 236177 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :There seem to be connections between the fast parallel scan algorithms and the addition algorithms. < 1624261792 729132 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though I don't really know all the fancy ways people make n-bit adders. < 1624261821 855598 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :not sure whether this extends beyond the fact that monoids are involved < 1624261875 59788 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :What's the monoid in the adder case? 2-bit numbers? < 1624261892 879790 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And addition, I mean.) < 1624261914 834153 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :It seems like there's a pretty strong connection between the kinds of algorithms you can do. < 1624261964 314061 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :You have similar concerns with the total depth (where input carry->output carry, or computing the total output sum, is probably your longest path). < 1624261987 511906 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :And you can do the thing where you split the thing into chunks and then connect them up to reduce the depth. < 1624262409 692153 :moon!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :moony < 1624262546 797761 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's a neat way of calculating & updating prefix sums with fenwick trees, but you might be familiar with them already < 1624262578 461742 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. Well, the monoid I have in mind is a bit weird: it uses pairs (b, d) where b is a base, and n is a digit. And the operation is (b, d) <> (b', d') = (b*b', d*b' + d'). So this doesn't do addition; it represents base 2 numbers as (2, d[n-1]) <> (2, d[n-2]) <> ... <> (2, d[0]). < 1624262591 163702 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I was just thinking of binary numbers. < 1624262602 718448 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sort of familiar but not in detail. < 1624262639 276261 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is it different from the thing you get with a binary tree where you store summaries in the branches? < 1624262652 911057 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or is it a way of storing the branch summaries compactly with implicit layout? < 1624262654 18136 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So what you can do to do addition is to split each d into its bits and a carry. And then you can regroup and do case analysis on the incoming carries and derive all the cool carry propagation/carry prediction stuff. < 1624262724 344305 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: yeah, it's just that I think, usually with the binary tree implemented compactly the usual way for dense power-of-two binary trees < 1624262739 184479 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :it gets you both logarithmic update and query, which is neat < 1624262762 707289 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a paper about Fenwick trees that I meant to read but haven't yet. < 1624262776 886388 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Aha, it's this one: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1904.12370.pdf < 1624262780 709984 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: note that if you start out with a binary number, b is always a power of 2; it's mainly a bookkeeping thing that is important to make things associative < 1624262782 579000 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Dynamic rank/select. < 1624262800 648074 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1624262805 624790 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION shrugs < 1624262816 554250 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But as usualy I'm not sure which similarity you see. :P < 1624262827 415266 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION tends to focus on differences. < 1624262895 89535 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :cd < 1624262907 108962 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: Aha, I see, that's an interesting perspective, now that I read what you said. < 1624262970 645301 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1624263046 51020 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Let me see if I can say explicitly why they seem so similar. < 1624263087 564150 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :The naive algorithm for adding two numbers is a ripple-carry adder, where you just add the way long addition works, figuring out the next bit and carry at a time. < 1624263133 942827 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :And the naive algorithm for a scan is similar -- you go from beginning to end, outputting the current sum and adding values as you see them. < 1624263150 487116 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :And these are both optimal sequentially. < 1624263208 24478 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :When you want to parallelize it, one thing you can do is break the thing into chunks, and compute the result for each chunk. < 1624263251 979214 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :The result you get isn't quite right, though, but you can correct it with the output from the previous chunk, and correcting it takes less work than computing the whole thing from scratch. < 1624263350 315989 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah. I think I actually got the right idea then. It's just that the ripple carry story is quite a bit more complicated than the prefix sum story in the details. < 1624263381 345101 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe I should start by saying "increment" rather than "add". < 1624263391 939705 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Since that's what I was really thinking. < 1624263403 130031 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :And there are similar things going on. < 1624263408 488608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(because the prefix sum stuff is just about regrouping addition in clever ways; it's already a nice monoid as is) < 1624263417 763395 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe semigroup, we don't need the unit < 1624263442 170851 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, interesting, I think of prefix sum as needing a unit, but the version with carry just takes the 0 value as an argument anyway. < 1624263445 762133 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it doesn't hurt either) < 1624263482 209347 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(the unit is only strictly needed if you allow an empty prefix) < 1624263503 107922 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1624263520 132879 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, maybe the connection would be stronger if I'd just said increment to start with. < 1624264081 511309 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK, here's a post that answers several of my questions: https://gist.github.com/pervognsen/c89b0726da133fed8791e68cd72864cf < 1624264333 583754 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is great. > 1624264726 710005 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Py10 5* 10New user account < 1624265641 628514 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1624265844 332114 :zegalch!~zegalch@178.128.75.133 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1624265869 329243 :zegalch!~zegalch@178.128.75.133 JOIN #esolangs zegalch :The Lounge User < 1624266599 843082 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2~bpo10+1 - https://znc.in < 1624266737 229309 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 JOIN #esolangs simcop2387 :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1624267629 161717 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1624267629 367525 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1624267700 641781 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1624267969 636663 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1624268729 674944 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1624268951 767894 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 JOIN #esolangs delta23 :delta23__ < 1624269215 149157 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1624270031 148477 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is no standard here though < 1624270064 920208 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :clipboard is basically either plain text, or rich text, or an image, or a path in a filesystem < 1624270376 69989 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie < 1624270689 624351 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1624271342 371821 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :or for example, there are RSS and Atom to make posts look the same < 1624271469 851436 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :would be nice to see random copypasta in web taken from twitter/fb/discourse/reddit/tumblr/etc. all formatted in the same way < 1624271582 439997 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :instead of screenshots with random ugly fonts, getting compressed with each reupload (since most of the people don't know what is the URL and instead of linking they download and upload the media; not even saying that they often use phone to take a screenshot of text from the monitor) < 1624271674 665963 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :in perspective if there is a wireless connection between the smartphone and the machine that you screenshot its display then if would be possible to even apply the format I imagine even when you are trying to make a photo of the screen < 1624271755 129627 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :my English is bad, gotta sleep < 1624272141 675738 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1624275751 508523 :Razetime!~user@49.207.195.17 JOIN #esolangs * :unknown < 1624275763 962262 :Razetime!~user@49.207.195.17 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello there esolangers < 1624276820 300535 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello > 1624276964 528944 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072D imensional14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84844&oldid=84823 5* 03ResU 5* (+4) 10 < 1624277082 368912 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1624277631 164410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072D imensional14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84845&oldid=84844 5* 03ResU 5* (+149) 10added truth machine > 1624277757 957862 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[072D imensional14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84846&oldid=84845 5* 03ResU 5* (+19) 10/* Commands */ < 1624277959 530156 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1624278085 400112 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron > 1624279046 59723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bin-snake14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84847&oldid=84842 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+316) 10Example, cats < 1624279247 637103 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif > 1624279791 127573 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HQ9+14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84848&oldid=81263 5* 03ResU 5* (-1) 10 > 1624279901 521706 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HQ9+14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84849&oldid=84848 5* 03ResU 5* (+1) 10/* See also */ < 1624279971 179996 :Razetime!~user@49.207.195.17 QUIT :Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 27.1) > 1624281212 44584 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Asriel77 5* 10New user account < 1624282355 148576 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1624283058 624172 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1624283806 296668 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1624284009 35008 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1624285167 656535 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PaRappa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84850&oldid=84489 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+653) 10 > 1624285171 991679 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Eek!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84851&oldid=84776 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+278) 10 < 1624285283 636805 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif > 1624285543 739185 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PaRappa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84852&oldid=84850 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+8) 10 < 1624286421 668016 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1624286584 652897 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1624286629 275631 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1624286629 460401 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Astronomy : Astrophysics :: Gastronomy : Gastrophysics > 1624286987 420823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Eek!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84853&oldid=84851 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+8) 10 > 1624287427 287464 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84854 5* 03VilgotanL 5* (+580) 10Created page with " is an [[Eek!]] derivative by the Amogus Esolang Crew, mostly by [[User:VilgotanL]] and [[User:Zero player rodent]]. The only difference between and Eek! is that E, e,..." > 1624287458 385334 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84855&oldid=84854 5* 03VilgotanL 5* (-13) 10fix table head cell < 1624287505 189622 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1624287618 351672 :vyv!~vyv@bras-vprn-nrbaon0452w-lp130-19-76-68-67-150.dsl.bell.ca JOIN #esolangs vyv :vyv verver > 1624287920 208648 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84856&oldid=84855 5* 03VilgotanL 5* (+0) 10fix table because my brain didnt work < 1624289083 244965 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1624290312 628949 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1624291282 158314 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1624291854 478218 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1624291881 633561 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat > 1624293077 219313 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:S1(210)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84857&oldid=84262 5* 03S1(210) 5* (-134) 10 < 1624293301 956571 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Taneb: Astronomy : Astrology :: Gastronomy : Gastrology? < 1624294027 325595 :Koen!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN #esolangs * :Koen > 1624294270 289246 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PaRappa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84858&oldid=84852 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+30) 10 < 1624294489 190393 :dutch!~DutchIngr@user/dutch JOIN #esolangs DutchIngraham :dutch > 1624294635 282302 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PaRappa14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84859&oldid=84858 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+78) 10 > 1624294669 968734 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03DjAlac 5* 10New user account > 1624294879 825311 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84860&oldid=84837 5* 03DjAlac 5* (+203) 10/* Introductions */ > 1624294898 484312 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:DjAlac14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=84861 5* 03DjAlac 5* (+20) 10Created page with "Working on language." < 1624296129 698191 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN #esolangs * :Koen < 1624296256 247705 :Koen!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1624296493 479560 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: that also < 1624296965 213586 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1624297241 422484 :scjosh!~scjosh@206.189.79.69 JOIN #esolangs scjosh :Josh < 1624298147 685 :sprock!~sprocklem@user/sprock QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1624298561 747300 :sprock!~sprocklem@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :Mal Sproule < 1624299974 368129 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1624300008 374824 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://translate.yandex.ru/?text=%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C&lang=ru-en < 1624300033 347263 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I though there is a word to gastrole in English < 1624300043 554758 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :would be astrole if your tour is between stars < 1624300132 421735 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hate so much that copying from address bar escapes russian letters -- I'm pretty sure they are working in URLs for years already; have to replace them manually when you want to make the URL shorter; would be awesome to have some chrome flag for that < 1624300156 25649 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi! < 1624300181 386438 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello riv < 1624300270 201818 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this link is working for all of you in chat, right? https://translate.yandex.ru/?text=гастролировать&lang=ru-en < 1624300440 838310 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1624300452 781942 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Seems to be < 1624300485 398203 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :works < 1624300811 153183 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1624301138 514382 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: works. At least Firefox allows you to copy URIs as is by adding a space at the end and then copying < 1624301168 804543 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :don’t know about Chrome, seems not that esoteric a browser :-| < 1624301282 723275 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( now I see why browsers are that huge: they need to support SVG rendering ) < 1624301312 399721 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :SVG is not huge, compared to HTML and CSS. HTML and CSS are not huge, compared to their interaction with JavaScript < 1624301361 929964 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :SVG is so cool < 1624301380 145959 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can write a webpage in SVG < 1624301394 199128 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a browser that only supported SVG webpages would probably be smaller than one which only supported HTML < 1624301409 474394 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :SVG tells you where to place each object. there is no layout algorithm < 1624301747 519187 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs ::P < 1624301889 163860 :dutch!~DutchIngr@user/dutch QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1624302366 400225 :dutch!~DutchIngr@user/dutch JOIN #esolangs DutchIngraham :dutch > 1624302454 218602 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* 10New user account < 1624302746 717668 :cyclosa!~cyclosa@2603-6011-4a41-8ada-0000-0000-0000-0eaa.res6.spectrum.com JOIN #esolangs cyclosa :realname > 1624302940 294238 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84862&oldid=84860 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+166) 10/* Introductions */ > 1624302969 907046 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84863&oldid=84862 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+78) 10/* Introductions */ < 1624303496 876729 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I made on my computer to never display non-ASCII characters in the address bar. I prefer to use only ASCII it avoids problems with homoglyphs, invisible characters, etc < 1624303535 506111 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :very good < 1624304615 913473 :vyv!~vyv@bras-vprn-nrbaon0452w-lp130-19-76-68-67-150.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1624304891 636093 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as a german, i wouldn't want to miss the umlauts < 1624305110 602164 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then use the German character encoding, I suppose < 1624305307 253460 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.1 < 1624305333 603825 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1624305648 783226 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :the square-1 puzzle is evil < 1624305710 446649 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What is a square-1 puzzle? < 1624305785 819885 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :arg < 1624305803 333052 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I spent the last 15 minutes trying to get the pun in the sentence "as a german, i wouldn't want to miss the umlauts" < 1624305808 548114 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :immibis: true! < 1624305819 612957 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I read zzo38's sentence just above and realise there is no pun < 1624305880 37512 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not everything has to be a pun < 1624305913 177585 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38, https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQVcciDqsX6uwzdtrm08e35exne0v-GEc2lOw&usqp=CAU < 1624305920 955401 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I assume you don't live in a country that survived the second world war by making puns on the radio < 1624305940 596717 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :as a ways to pass secret messages < 1624305966 217948 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv: that's not a square < 1624305969 618098 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's not even a cube!! < 1624305970 697233 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :haha < 1624306027 718104 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Koen_: but it's a cube in solved configuration < 1624306033 823741 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh < 1624306034 436402 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1624306055 969235 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-1_(puzzle)) < 1624306212 985917 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.jaapsch.net/puzzles/square1d.htm < 1624306232 289465 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is a graph for the shpes < 1624306239 465771 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you also need to solve the colors < 1624306363 911782 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv: I have tried to make some simple procedural art using SVG as an output, that went nicely. Filters and are a good hand though I used just blur filters for shadows. And grouping is indispensible too, so yeah, SVG is a very good format, though rendering a complex document efficiently still seems for me a giant programming task, especially due to filters. So I’m actually glad one can fall back to a browser and test this or that right in jupyt < 1624306364 191809 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 PRIVMSG #esolangs :er somewhere! < 1624306457 319023 :Koen_!~Koen@39.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1624306984 964439 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie < 1624307297 820536 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i made a sq1 simulator which produces svg graphics < 1624307330 195781 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://i.postimg.cc/br7157wX/Screenshot-2021-06-21-21-28-33.png < 1624308232 887260 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ghostscript does not include a SVG output, so if I want to use SVG output with Ghostscript, one way is to produce PDF, and then use a separate program converting PDF into SVG. < 1624308380 879594 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :can we convert PS to SVG directly? < 1624308423 728864 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It would be possible, although Ghostscript does not currently include this driver. (There may be an unofficial one maybe) > 1624308443 349158 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84864&oldid=70898 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+1292) 10/* Minim */ < 1624308458 569162 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also would be wanted to detect the approximations of circles it makes in order to convert them to SVG circles, maybe < 1624308555 103631 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another thing might be wanted is if you want to put hyperlinks in the SVG file, then you might want some uses of the pdfmark command to work too < 1624308567 954894 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i didnt know postscript doesn't have circles < 1624308611 155084 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It has a command to draw circular arcs, although using this produces an approximation involving Bezier curves instead < 1624308802 277357 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://spencermortensen.com/articles/bezier-circle/ i see, they are 0.02% off at worst < 1624308868 556068 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, although coding them as circles in SVG file would be more efficient than coding the Bezier curves < 1624308882 479584 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would leave them as bezier curves < 1624308893 366806 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :what if someone had done a bezier curve that is close to a circle intentionall < 1624308905 688323 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it got incorrectl turned into a true circle < 1624308947 683782 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, that is a valid point too. (Although I meant it only for the approximations produced by the arc commands in PostScript, not if you made your own) < 1624308990 311493 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :PostScript has a command to iterate a path and that requires that it uses Bezier curves rather than circular arcs, although modifying the PostScript interpreter could be done to check specifically if you use the commands for circular arcs < 1624309604 815410 :shikhin!~shikhin@offtopia/offtopian QUIT :Quit: Quittin'. < 1624309607 219130 :zgrep!~zgrep@user/zgrep QUIT :Quit: It's a quitter's world. < 1624309697 561489 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space JOIN #esolangs * :shikhin < 1624309698 225748 :zgrep!~zgrep@user/zgrep JOIN #esolangs zgrep :zgrep < 1624309824 733171 :shikhin!~shikhin@ahti.space CHGHOST ~shikhin :offtopia/offtopian < 1624310397 120890 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-185.catv.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1624310895 865537 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1624310960 546665 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84865&oldid=84856 5* 03Zero player rodent 5* (+779) 10 < 1624311908 151636 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1624312792 55818 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1624313327 250612 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84866&oldid=84266 5* 03S1(210) 5* (-1) 10/* My Python-based interpreter */ fix broken link < 1624317068 295706 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.234.138 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1624317214 162506 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 JOIN #esolangs salpynx :[https://kiwiirc.com] salpynx < 1624317601 177648 :Guest79!~Guest79@176.59.144.113 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest79 < 1624318513 567963 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1624318615 168671 :Guest79!~Guest79@176.59.144.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1624319041 690826 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84867&oldid=84865 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+25) 10/* Implementations */ Cat > 1624319137 429830 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=84868&oldid=84864 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+48) 10/* 99 Bottles */ CatstaC