< 1626307229 808318 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the whole topic of hate is just inappropriate in Russian mass media < 1626307387 421143 :moon!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) < 1626307424 946703 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :for eaxmple, I read the russophobia all over the reddit every day and sometimes in irc, but I can't remember any thread of hate about US in Russian most popular IT website for example -- it just makes no sense, we aren't interested in hate and don't spread it < 1626307435 557497 :moon!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN #esolangs moony :mooooony < 1626307538 923876 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the was one stand up comic yet from soviet time, he died few years ago who was joking on americans, building his career on a funny storry teller about how "they are stupid and we are smart" -- just one single man on media and he already died < 1626307616 752477 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :pretty sure the russophobia is due to the election stuff and the troll farms. < 1626307625 107893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh dear < 1626307632 52073 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :stuff like that. < 1626307649 947747 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :though that can enhance the already racist tendencies of individuals. < 1626307737 496148 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :was funny to see those Biden votes graphs though < 1626307761 569564 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw, Norway and... imode where are you from? < 1626307787 466540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION would be surprised if imode isn't american < 1626307819 527783 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :are your public service businesses have to have a special book where clients can write down all they think about the service and that book is regularly cheked by the government services? < 1626307821 822553 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :hungarian in spirit, american in birth. < 1626307844 681445 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :or I guess maybe nordic in spirit, according to how my buddies in denmark describe my views. :P < 1626307850 190864 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this thing https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0_%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9 < 1626307867 769742 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :we have a couple of things like that. < 1626307874 503366 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :several Americans on reddit said there is no such thing in US < 1626307900 109603 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I don't see an English page on Wikipedia < 1626307900 243300 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :the better business bureau. < 1626307949 716843 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wouldn't put my faith in the russian government. I'm struggling to recover my lack of faith in the US government. < 1626307974 751767 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :so a complaint book is a double edged sword. < 1626307995 314957 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the interesting fact is that it appeared thanks to Stalin -- his politics were about giving the citizens a right to tell about problems out loud, that was among the things why people (not those who were sent to gulag for being criminals) loved him and what he built < 1626308054 442111 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sure he was a great guy apart from the millions he killed. < 1626308090 311180 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this book works -- you come to a store, they do some service badly, you write it to a book and within weeks you get a response on the next page of the book and the business gets fined < 1626308111 878442 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PART #esolangs :what the fuck < 1626308113 473507 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, because customers can always be trusted. < 1626308134 331032 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :totally want the potential to be fined to be in the hands of customers. < 1626308139 406301 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :they check the facts < 1626308151 495511 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm sure the government which now has a de-facto dictator checks its facts all the time. < 1626308180 179984 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you write a bullshit, they respond "quit your bullshit" < 1626308199 225664 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1626308249 835912 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can copypaste hate propaganda any number of times you want -- it won't make it truth < 1626308265 560444 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :it certainly wasn't copypasting. < 1626308268 951613 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :because you have nothing to prove the bullshit with < 1626308287 247045 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :calling anything that you disagree with propaganda is an interesting tactic. < 1626308309 455688 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is now a blatant lie about me < 1626308323 926748 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :because there was no "calling anything that you disagree with propaganda" by me < 1626308335 425648 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :I actually have a question, are you russian? < 1626308343 71693 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes I am < 1626308351 844310 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :this makes a lot of sense. < 1626308358 130763 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :what sense? < 1626308362 855508 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :just your demeanor. < 1626308366 740096 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :general behavior. < 1626308378 698636 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :disposition. < 1626308385 171585 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so now you are judging me by nationality, nice < 1626308392 608688 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can go fuck yourself < 1626308416 555259 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice jump. was really just claiming that you'd defend your national pride, as anybody would, but you do you dude. < 1626308495 607520 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord > 1626308522 229778 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Py25614]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86287&oldid=85930 5* 03Makonede 5* (+47) 10 < 1626308634 921779 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am Russian, I am not nazi or racist, I was born in the most multinational country in the world and the more I speak to foreigners the more I see how they operate with only rumours, and are absolutely unable to differentiate the fact from propaganda, I'm tired of it < 1626308641 318171 :sprock!~sprocklem@user/sprock QUIT :Quit: brb < 1626308652 74350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok now that you know you're russian and american and that this perfectly explains why you cannot get along, can you please never talk to each other again twh and i'm sorry for participating. > 1626308674 361763 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Py25614]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86288&oldid=86287 5* 03Makonede 5* (+30) 10 < 1626308701 499493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :(that's irony btw there are other russians and americans in this channel who get along just fine) < 1626308708 394408 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu JOIN #esolangs int-e :Bertram < 1626308723 317237 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps we should label things like this as off-topic. < 1626308741 493123 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I get along just fine with americans, unless they are some imperialists and russophobes < 1626308741 873177 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :to prevent 1. flooding the channel and 2. blocking further discourse. < 1626308742 875942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps. int-e, fizzie? < 1626308752 474173 :sprock!~sprocklem@user/sprock JOIN #esolangs sprock :Mal Sproule < 1626308764 529351 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I will say that uh, I wasn't the one that started talking about it. < 1626308798 617324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :imode: that's true, but my "uh oh" when you started talking was because i pretty confidentally saw what was coming < 1626308817 668604 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :just try to deal with the facts at hand, man. < 1626308825 31910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :you're a bit like nemeses < 1626308828 206450 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I know there are some people here with nicknames I don't remember well who just love to personally attack and lie on me exactly how I was lied just a page above < 1626308836 297843 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :meh. < 1626308841 212723 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :if I have a nemesis it's probably bezos. < 1626308903 147223 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: here's the thing, and I'm speaking to you in a genuine manner, despite the lack of intonation or intent in text: do not develop a victim complex. < 1626308919 315880 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's frankly annoying and seeing as this is "the internet", your reputation is not at stake. < 1626308931 355310 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :carry yourself as if nobody else matters. < 1626308959 206646 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'll feel a lot happier and won't have to call people out or say you're being attacked. < 1626308982 100019 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just try to make things visible that others are hidhing about themselves < 1626309004 622584 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is either a cultural disconnect or malice and I'm looking to believe it's the former. < 1626309020 404894 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :people don't need things "brought out of them", and you're too quick to jump the gun on people. < 1626309042 628731 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's perceived as attacks, and you'll get hostility. < 1626309104 835446 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you lied about be and then instead of keeping the dialog constructive started saying that all I say is just biased just because I'm Russian < 1626309130 925665 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :see, I see 'lie' pop up a lot. a lie is applicable only when you know the truth but choose to conceal it. < 1626309137 811305 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So... two things. Nakilon should stop bringing up contested political topics. #esolangs is not the right place for this. imode, maybe ignore nakilon instead of goading them on. Yes, nakilon exhibits strong trollish tendencies, but they're tolerable if noone bites. < 1626309145 463153 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :as in, "you are willingly lying". < 1626309156 344949 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :pretty sure I've never seen someone accidentally lie. < 1626309160 108809 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I ignore him < 1626309170 692252 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :so when you think people are being uncharitable towards you, maybe perceive it as a misconception. not a lie. < 1626309194 833285 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :because when you tell me "you're lying about me", that just makes me appear as if I'm a bad party, vs. someone you either disagree with or someone who doesn't understand your position fully. < 1626309218 771703 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :just sayin'. < 1626309220 324649 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now, can we stop this peacefully or do we need a proper timeout? < 1626309256 398963 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :feel free to timeout, idgaf. I see this as a cultural misunderstanding rather than trolling. < 1626309257 116069 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I didn't bring the politics, I didn't say that some country does something bad or omeone's leaders are bad or anything, it was brought in by others who just were triggered by some words on their trigger list < 1626309270 120172 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +o :int-e < 1626309275 93401 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu MODE #esolangs +q :$a:nakilon < 1626309280 801889 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu MODE #esolangs -o :int-e < 1626309338 621028 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :timeout it is. (cf. (cf. https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2021-07-14.html#lwc)) < 1626309351 324317 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yay we have a logging endpoint. < 1626309411 238217 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow I didn't see that context. no comment. < 1626309479 850959 :mnrmnaugh!~mnrmnaugh@pool-96-252-87-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net NICK :awk < 1626309670 52449 :awk!~mnrmnaugh@pool-96-252-87-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net NICK :mnrmnaugh > 1626309943 307689 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03CosmicMan08 5* 10New user account > 1626310252 792007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=86289 5* 03Xorol 5* (+1301) 10Created the page > 1626310542 66326 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86290&oldid=86289 5* 03Xorol 5* (+439) 10Added some example programs > 1626310782 188777 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86291&oldid=86290 5* 03Xorol 5* (+9) 10Added caption text to the instruction table < 1626310877 174364 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +o :int-e < 1626310887 318077 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu MODE #esolangs -qo $a:nakilon :int-e > 1626310988 430929 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86292&oldid=86291 5* 03Xorol 5* (+96) 10Added a link to the interpreter > 1626311040 620209 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86293&oldid=86292 5* 03Xorol 5* (+1) 10 > 1626311167 629321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86294&oldid=86293 5* 03Xorol 5* (+4) 10 < 1626311300 140854 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was not me who brought it in < 1626311335 316011 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you linked the wrong log line < 1626311359 910485 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :on purpose > 1626311619 802604 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86295&oldid=86283 5* 03Xorol 5* (+14) 10Added a link to numbers > 1626311730 211850 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Xorol14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=86296 5* 03Xorol 5* (+25) 10Created page with "Hi! I created [[Numbers]]" < 1626312362 996117 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :How do you think that FFI should be made working in PostScript? < 1626312379 763464 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there existing examples of FFIs with postscript? < 1626312396 867032 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I guess, is this postscript calling out to C or another language calling postscript. < 1626312501 825996 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, I mean calling C codes from PostScript codes. < 1626312519 518822 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if there are any existing examples of FFIs with PostScript, though. < 1626312569 20207 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(There is a printobject command which writes a PostScript object to stdout which can be useful for some purposes, but that is for dealing with an external program, not a dynamic library within the same program.) < 1626312575 515683 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :mm. kinda hard to say, you need a way to set up calling conventions.. < 1626312911 909469 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, although it could be needing a C code to wrap calls to libraries that are not meant for this purpose, to convert values, etc < 1626313405 128118 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, that's difficult. I think most forths get around this by exposing I/O ports. < 1626313408 312858 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something similar. < 1626313424 635392 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, I know of _one_ forth that does that... not most, most just drop to assembly and do the hard work. < 1626313449 270 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :it comes down to "do you want your language to be able to speak C" or "do you want to wall your language off and try to plan for the common cases". < 1626313656 258066 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Since it isn't a compiled programming language, I would think it probably need not "speak C" directly; it could use a plugin interface. In addition to defining new operators and reading/writing PostScript memory directory, it may also be wanted for a plugin to install a printer driver too, in case you are doing graphics. < 1626313670 832948 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Such a "printer driver" need not necessarily be for a printer; it might also be a screen or file.) < 1626313692 110274 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, you'll need to hot plug stuff in and out of the interpreter and have the calling code support it. < 1626313757 838058 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1626313765 608085 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :that isn't actually a bad idea, though. < 1626313791 329701 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :what's the difference between that and having the capability to "speak C" regularly. you can issue an interpreter call that says "load this dynamic library". < 1626313807 668798 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'll just need some shim code for the dynamic library to make it speak your language. > 1626313840 188905 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86297&oldid=86280 5* 03CosmicMan08 5* (+362) 10Introduced_yourself&action=edit < 1626313886 487246 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, a operator to load a dynamic library is a good idea I think. (It would be disabled in safe mode of course, although libraries that have already been loaded before switching to safe mode can remain loaded.) > 1626313900 119500 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wariolang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=86298 5* 03CosmicMan08 5* (+1609) 10Created page with "WarioLang is an esolang inspired by the AI system of Warioware D.I.Y, it is created by discord user CosmicMan08#1975. == INSTRUCTIONS == Set [Var] to [Data] ---- Sets a vari..." < 1626313913 599496 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can build a shim generator as well if you know the types involved. > 1626314027 916981 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wariolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86299&oldid=86298 5* 03CosmicMan08 5* (+9) 10 < 1626314034 726776 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :wah < 1626314157 701731 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, I suppose you can; I think there are programs to do such thing for some programming languages already, it can be added other one too > 1626314912 440404 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86300&oldid=86294 5* 03Xorol 5* (+8) 10 > 1626314934 398039 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86301&oldid=86300 5* 03Xorol 5* (+0) 10 > 1626314997 196988 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86302&oldid=86259 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-12) 10 > 1626315070 607039 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86303&oldid=86229 5* 03Xorol 5* (+92) 10Added an implementation in [[Numbers]] > 1626315111 110176 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wariolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86304&oldid=86299 5* 03CosmicMan08 5* (+1) 10 > 1626315130 682182 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86305&oldid=86303 5* 03Xorol 5* (-49) 10/* Numbers */ > 1626315673 452059 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Graue14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86306&oldid=59021 5* 03Xorol 5* (+351) 10 > 1626315719 588687 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Xorol14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=86307 5* 03Xorol 5* (+0) 10Created blank page < 1626315948 823475 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had other ideas about improving PostScript too, such as a built-in #! command, a few new font types, a few new resource categories, alpha transparency, some things taken from Ghostscript and from NeWS, etc < 1626316191 579600 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think Adobe said they don't want to make level 4 PostScript < 1626317025 186253 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Was it some years ago on the esoteric programming IRC that someone mentioned they saw someone abbreviated Thursday as the Greek Theta? > 1626319219 621695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Excellerated Short-Term Memory Loss14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86308&oldid=85695 5* 03PolySaken 5* (+16) 10/* Computational Class */ > 1626319365 523298 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86309&oldid=86302 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-52) 10 > 1626319384 728074 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86310&oldid=86301 5* 03Xorol 5* (+32) 10 > 1626320038 688036 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86311&oldid=86310 5* 03Xorol 5* (+262) 10Added an example for the digital root calculator > 1626320062 96630 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86312&oldid=86311 5* 03Xorol 5* (+1) 10/* =Digital root calculator */ < 1626320408 503052 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1626321294 788005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1626332950 917866 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :nativ lang has a vid on modern use of mayan glyphs > 1626333598 10226 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Boxes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86313&oldid=86247 5* 03Dominicentek 5* (+496) 10Added more instructions < 1626333693 395573 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1626335977 981680 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1626336409 806344 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1626336529 708777 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1626337712 597345 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1626337799 421001 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1626337879 400093 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1626343169 712290 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif > 1626343246 762281 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86314&oldid=86240 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+140) 10/* External Resources */ > 1626343299 110065 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86315&oldid=86314 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+0) 10/* External Resources */ < 1626343598 409983 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1626345550 699205 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1626345555 309805 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1626345618 290756 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :since what version did Windows preserve the case of the current drive, as opposed to the other components of filenames in the working directory? < 1626345635 701286 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Was that all the way back to 95 OSR2? I sort of doubt that < 1626345643 528205 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 JOIN #esolangs delta23 :delta23__ < 1626347941 596048 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv > 1626348476 283060 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INF)xO14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86316&oldid=86256 5* 03AmNow 5* (+391) 10added ver and indexing < 1626350247 578211 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1626351247 249549 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1626352987 459542 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INF)xO14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86317&oldid=86316 5* 03AmNow 5* (-2) 10 > 1626353681 356928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INF)xO14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86318&oldid=86317 5* 03AmNow 5* (-17) 10spec update < 1626353775 724596 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1626354551 705931 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1626355145 410264 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1626355189 792967 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat > 1626355969 185090 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Boxes14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86319&oldid=86313 5* 03Dominicentek 5* (+23) 10Added interpreter > 1626356285 867555 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Numbers14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86320&oldid=86312 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+54) 10/* Digital root calculator */ Categories > 1626356482 95032 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86321&oldid=86315 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+101) 10Summary) (Created by ~~~~ > 1626356663 512420 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Boxes14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86322&oldid=86319 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+50) 10/* Interpreter */ Cat > 1626356905 408806 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Wariolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86323&oldid=86304 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+162) 10Cats, fmt > 1626357074 110127 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:AmNow14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86324&oldid=86212 5* 03AmNow 5* (-1) 10 < 1626358834 399337 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1626359065 86348 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Something14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86325&oldid=86144 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (-9) 10/* Proof of Turing completeness */ > 1626359086 629444 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Something14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86326&oldid=86325 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+9) 10/* Proof of Turing completeness */ > 1626359716 777539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86327&oldid=86321 5* 03AmNow 5* (+52) 10why < 1626360285 423087 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv > 1626360731 539595 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Swapfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86328&oldid=86268 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+82) 10 > 1626362867 854709 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Swapfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86329&oldid=86328 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-153) 10minor improvements > 1626362903 805420 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Swapfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86330&oldid=86329 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+14) 10made lowercase > 1626362982 291115 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Swapfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86331&oldid=86330 5* 03Rdococ 5* (+11) 10/* Computational class */ > 1626363026 148447 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Rdococ 5* 10moved [[02Flower10]] to [[Flower (Archived)]] > 1626363212 711195 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Flower (Archived)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86334&oldid=86332 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-173) 10 > 1626363241 410570 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Rdococ 5* 10moved [[02Algebra10]] to [[Algebra (Archived)]] > 1626363251 674493 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Algebra (Archived)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86337&oldid=86335 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-19) 10 > 1626363886 864057 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86338&oldid=86327 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+64) 10! > 1626363923 449678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86339&oldid=86338 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+27) 10! > 1626363944 901601 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86340&oldid=86339 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-26) 10. < 1626364985 613378 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1626368335 704851 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1626368424 787705 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1626369761 700918 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1626370081 789241 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1626370812 404308 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1626371266 444733 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1626373221 479783 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs * :Corbin < 1626374070 730549 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1626374470 813720 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1626374713 740399 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Client Quit > 1626375923 532707 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Swapfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86341&oldid=86331 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-56) 10/* Differences from brainfuck */ > 1626375958 407270 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Swapfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86342&oldid=86341 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-10) 10/* Computational class */ < 1626376083 67976 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi < 1626376086 461710 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :whats new? < 1626376847 991100 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :New in what, specifically? (If you are looking for IRC logs or esolang wiki, then you can easily find that) < 1626377284 21397 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :just anything cool that was learned < 1626377326 19938 :mla!~mla@162.253.176.229 JOIN #esolangs mla :mla < 1626377364 716947 :mla!~mla@162.253.176.229 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1626377535 369706 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1626378383 513069 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Rayuela14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86343&oldid=83957 5* 03Dreamvoyager 5* (-1) 10/* Print all even numbers up to 10^k-1. */ < 1626378888 206033 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I made a new version of the PSTOKEN extension for SQLite, which is used for making PostScript tokens output from SQL queries. < 1626379214 217028 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://sqlite.org/forum/info/b1bd78c5e5c8434e I found this when searching for PSTOKEN < 1626379264 512104 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :interesting < 1626379269 114778 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :PSTOKEN has { and } < 1626379304 403787 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1626379373 978077 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, it uses {} to make the entire array as a single token. < 1626379583 498738 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, I have written a JSON parser in PostScript too, although generating PostScript format is more useful, to avoid having to parse JSON or whatever. As the comment there says, it will be useful for making pie charts and whatever other graphics you might want. < 1626379610 601817 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :That link is the old version though. < 1626379622 771983 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The new version is: https://sqlite.org/forum/forumpost/0e2bc16832 < 1626379679 923083 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool idea! < 1626379957 312984 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do you use SQL and/or PostScript at all? < 1626379997 79400 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :not at the moment but i have in the past > 1626380066 600899 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TJC games 5* 10New user account > 1626380158 693059 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86344&oldid=86297 5* 03TJC games 5* (+185) 10/* Introductions */ > 1626380220 357163 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TJC games14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=86345 5* 03TJC games 5* (+73) 10Created page with "Hello! I am TJC games. I play games, do stuff and beep beep like a sheep." > 1626380396 575761 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gdelang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=86346 5* 03TJC games 5* (+185) 10Created page with "Gdelang is an esolang created by TJC games. It's based off of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del_numbering godel numbering], with slight connections to Brainfuck|Br..." > 1626380630 335718 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Table14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86347&oldid=43284 5* 03Rdococ 5* (-633) 10 > 1626380983 349301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gdelang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86348&oldid=86346 5* 03TJC games 5* (+742) 10 > 1626380997 895197 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gdelang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86349&oldid=86348 5* 03TJC games 5* (-20) 10/* Interpretations */ > 1626381124 413559 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86350&oldid=86295 5* 03TJC games 5* (+16) 10Godelang > 1626381649 343446 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86351&oldid=86279 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (-2) 10/* Quine */ a shorter one < 1626382380 831201 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? unicorn < 1626382383 923017 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :unicorn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1626382433 726153 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( let x = corn in unix ) < 1626382508 801549 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Uniikki unikorni olikin korni koni. < 1626384029 942329 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSng_Us9dg I like this youtube series < 1626384050 859701 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.youtube.com/user/NativLang/videos and recently this < 1626384310 548024 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I realised that the way people are taught about the Earth rotating around Sun is pretty much wrong and useless, and doesn't help to understand how the sun moves over the sky < 1626384332 460658 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1626384359 232071 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also checked several pages of google and yandex image search results and found nothing close to what I would like people to see to learn it, so I drew it myself < 1626384421 537240 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I learned about analemma recently < 1626384546 254372 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :people are not taught that while South and North are points on the horizon the East and West are not, and people realise it only after they spent years of their lives, preferably living in the same place to observe the cycle < 1626384576 922962 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :north is a point on the horizon? < 1626384590 787080 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :; also people are told that the Earth axis has an angle of 23.5 degrees but how to use this knowledge? where is the polar day and night? why they exist? it's not really explained < 1626384642 768909 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv the point that you can get my drawing a line down from the star that is not rotating during the night < 1626384671 327276 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did a OU course on astronomy < 1626384678 333028 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was relaly good < 1626384705 709448 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :we had 1 year of astronomy in school, but at least in my school, the teacher sucked < 1626384707 465131 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway > 1626384753 640782 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86352&oldid=86351 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+1403) 10/* ROT13 cipher */ a slightly more legit one > 1626384770 635758 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86353&oldid=86352 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+1) 10/* ROT13 cipher */ < 1626384800 550627 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :we have the equatorial coordinate system < 1626384816 654062 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the key to understanding is that you should not imagine the Earth rotating around the Sun, because it has no practical use and it's hard to derive the rest of the things unless you had a course of descriptive geometry that is taught only to engineers basically < 1626384830 473396 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah < 1626384838 491028 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :the math of this stuff is highly involved < 1626384849 758927 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :the earth is basically a massive gyroscope < 1626384854 521475 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :my idea is to imagine that the Sun is running in spiral over the sphere < 1626384864 365203 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it not only orbits and spins but precesses < 1626384865 876136 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://i.imgur.com/Eec618c.png < 1626384907 219457 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that this was originally noted by Newton < 1626384943 224121 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's trivial and important to know that the earth is kind of rotating around the sun, not the opposite but it's only practical when you launch the satellites and it's not the all the truth anyway, only an approximation, but the problem is that this imagining is not useful on the earth < 1626384967 742493 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's kind of a pointless distinction < 1626384978 418062 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have two bodies in space with gravity influencing each other < 1626384982 715066 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :the sun is much more massive, so it moves less < 1626384989 79636 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it is not "fixed" < 1626385000 413774 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1626385005 118446 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you want to set up a coordinate system, you can use either the earth or the sun as an origin < 1626385016 364010 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :not something to behead people over < 1626385043 69565 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :or whatever happened back then < 1626385053 962629 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the thing is how the hell kid is supposed to understand what path the sun is running over the sky when you say it's a ball rotating around another ball that with an angle < 1626385097 627718 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehe < 1626385114 563558 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analemma#/media/File:Analemma_fishburn.tif < 1626385117 768659 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :check out this analemma image < 1626385132 972147 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think that is super cool, but also could be used to help explain it < 1626385222 284516 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh and btw, the sun path is a key to understanding to how the sun clocks work < 1626385238 79600 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :ask random person how to make it -- they'll have no clue < 1626385253 579470 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :> Analemmas (as they are known today) have been used in conjunction with sundials since the 18th century to convert between apparent and mean solar time < 1626385255 296730 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : :1:52: error: parse error on input ‘in’ < 1626385274 803862 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :im not sure what this means, but it sounds relevant < 1626385296 810786 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :"This can be interpreted as how "fast" or "slow" the Sun (or an analemmatic sundial) is compared to clock time." < 1626385341 455974 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :understanding that sun is goins in spirals over the sphere and assuming it's shifting the cycles in Sin function way it becomes trivial to calculate the day length < 1626385354 276746 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*going < 1626385360 219129 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's a good intuition to have < 1626385368 518900 :mla!~mla@162.253.176.229 JOIN #esolangs mla :mla < 1626385378 179355 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw < 1626385381 937290 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs : i read more details about leap seconds < 1626385401 271234 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :so far, they have only every added seconds - never removed them < 1626385405 620641 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they would if needed < 1626385411 252468 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :and they can not predict leap seconds < 1626385430 523673 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :they just measure when they are required < 1626385445 712336 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :some of the the things that cause the time drift are not known < 1626385460 432808 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :and othres are just too chaotic to predict, can only be measured < 1626385585 153144 :dutch!~DutchIngr@user/dutch QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1 < 1626385676 260892 :dutch!~DutchIngr@user/dutch JOIN #esolangs DutchIngraham :dutch < 1626385694 925776 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv https://www.reddit.com/r/ExposurePorn/comments/106czv/sunrise_analemma_17_individual_images_taken_at/ < 1626385707 758109 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this subredit has such images sometimes < 1626385745 410324 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice one! < 1626386242 270200 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know some things about astronomy. I had once plotted the analemma using Astrolog (using its capability to avoid clearing the screen between frames) < 1626386380 6384 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah that's cool! < 1626386404 179807 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I used stellarium < 1626386425 712694 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.astrolog.org/astrolog.htm wow < 1626386530 972422 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :"created using Microsoft FrontPage, page last updated April 11, 2021." :D < 1626386595 343333 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's in Mars calendar < 1626386617 735081 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ooh, a counter and all. < 1626386678 987380 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 JOIN #esolangs wizzwizz4 :wizzwizz4 < 1626386689 288604 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ISP is acting up again < 1626386707 830686 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does anyone remember what that tiny x86-specific language was called? < 1626386757 400654 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :All the instructions are ASCII letters, and the interpeter just jumps into overlapping x86 instructions. < 1626386779 760438 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :when I was a child I remember counting hundreds of thousands of stars in the most clear nights; recently I found a local astronomer with youtube channel and on stream I asked him if I'll ever be able to see this amount again like back then, or is sky polluted already with light, satellites, and my eyesight is old < 1626386818 426296 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tom7/abc/paper.pdf kee? < 1626386836 332662 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon, yeah... :( < 1626386848 192382 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and he said "ahaha, wtf, you could not see it, it's 6000 stars" -- you know why? just because he has read it in our 1980s astronomy school book and didn't really try to count on his own < 1626386848 855556 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i always want to go to a remote place to see the stars well, I saw the milky way once, it wa good < 1626386865 101050 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that was a bit... disappointing < 1626386928 127659 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :meanwhile wikipedia says, I just checked: "Depending on local sky cloud cover, pollution, humidity, and light pollution levels, the stars visible to the unaided naked eye appear as hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands...." < 1626386957 983140 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so idk why he just quotes the old book < 1626386991 507297 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh I didn't see milky way for years < 1626387027 82231 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv: It's not ABC. I'm thinking of an interpreter tens of bytes long, not a C compiler. < 1626387106 287233 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds interesting < 1626387147 227032 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. But because it's less than 100 bytes, I can't search for it. < 1626387198 347871 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :haha < 1626387577 729199 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The MiniMAX interpreter is that small, but it doesn't otherwise resemble what you said too much. https://esolangs.org/wiki/MiniMAX < 1626387834 642160 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Though clicking a few links forward from there, https://esolangs.org/wiki/Golf lists a few of the shortest implementations, and both MinISCule and Barely sound to be a bit in that direction. < 1626387863 808363 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you certainly can see a lot of stars, but you have to go to somewhere that's far from cities for it, and then look at night when the weather is suitable. I don't like going to places that are far from cities, so I'd rather leave that sort of thing to other people and automated telescopes. < 1626387907 808437 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Here if I go to one of the darker places within the city, I can see tens of stars on a clear night. < 1626387922 6733 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I was thinking of Barely, I think. Thanks. < 1626388073 220932 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :We went out of the city a while ago, and I was hoping to see some stars, but since it was the middle of summer as well, it never really got *that* dark. It's not as bad as back home (or further up north), but even here at summertime it never dips below astronomical twilight to true night. < 1626388290 212541 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Better than in London, though. Here's how it looked like to the phone: https://zem.fi/tmp/stars.jpg < 1626388653 874474 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie < 1626389569 669108 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: that's a lot of stars < 1626389621 480913 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The phone exaggerates a little, I think. It takes 4 minutes to collect all those stars, for example. < 1626389812 807862 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :4 minutes? and you have a rotating tripod thingy for that? < 1626389815 112176 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remember a much more impressive sky from back when I was pretty young, and got off a bus to visit a friend in the countryside in the middle of the winter, but I can't be sure if it *was* actually substantially better, or if it's just one of these things where your mind makes stuff up. < 1626389821 650773 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, it's done in software. < 1626389840 636427 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :AIUI, it takes repeated 15-second exposures and then merges them together to account for the motion. < 1626389855 890945 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well it could impress you more even if it's the same visuals < 1626389862 535722 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice < 1626389871 481760 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://ai.googleblog.com/2019/11/astrophotography-with-night-sight-on.html has a bit of the detail. < 1626389983 750754 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't generally bother with trying to photograph a starry sky, because that's one of those things that other people can and will photograph better, and photos of it are available on the internet easily, unlike some other targets that I photograph where I can't just get photographs made by others for various reasons < 1626389995 298212 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :They had just added an extra feature where it also makes a timelapse video clip of the whole thing (so you get the motion of the stars visible too), but AFAICT you can't extend it to more than the 4 minutes, so it's just a one-second clip, which is a bit of a shame. < 1626390011 210527 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as in, the starry sky is basically the same viewed from anywhere, so why bother? < 1626390028 913559 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, this was mostly an excuse to use the feature, after having read about it. < 1626390034 291592 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(yes, I know some parts are only visible from the south, but still) < 1626390064 106303 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, you can do a photo that is part something you don't see everywhere else, and part the starry sky. < 1626390081 92577 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that you could do, yes < 1626390108 994317 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should try to do timelapses of clouds some day though < 1626390119 621967 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though that's also something you can download anywhere < 1626390145 737539 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: You have to do compositing (a bit more sophisticated than HDR) to get that. < 1626390167 964118 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, you don't, it's all part of the astrophotography feature. < 1626390180 916102 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean, someone has to, I guess. < 1626390188 427444 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wow, that's neat. < 1626390193 191167 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For example, here's the building we stayed at: https://zem.fi/tmp/stars2.jpg < 1626390234 846686 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :not bad. in what country is that? is it Finland? < 1626390275 714325 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Here's one with a bit more of the house: https://zem.fi/tmp/stars3.jpg < 1626390284 828692 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Nah, it was a place here in the UK. < 1626390289 760488 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PART #esolangs :⭘ < 1626390431 736849 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-30.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1626391893 268381 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1626393261 358585 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursaga < 1626393367 721935 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat > 1626393393 862377 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07INF)xO14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86354&oldid=86318 5* 03AmNow 5* (+19) 10computational class fix