< 1627863540 934154 :Koen_!~Koen@76.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... > 1627864134 546159 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Haltingfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86808&oldid=86805 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-22) 10/* UnHaltingFuck */ Cat > 1627867030 364184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Something14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86809&oldid=86326 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+3) 10/* Instructions */ > 1627867055 43163 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Something14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86810&oldid=86809 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+0) 10/* Instructions */ < 1627871769 500551 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.charlton.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1627871936 959839 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1627871962 443266 :simcop2387!~simcop238@perlbot/patrician/simcop2387 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1627873515 326448 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:Siddharth Gautam < 1627885339 829658 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1627885412 338081 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1627885414 395026 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1627887463 135503 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :21:03:36 there's a lot of free parameters to mess with < 1627887468 279444 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had only two < 1627887512 369326 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :one real parameter and another one -- I took only 15000 of 50000 of input strings, heh, or it would take a day to calculate < 1627887569 520137 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :22:42:20 nakilon, https://bpa.st/5P6A < 1627887576 372189 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah only 3 first are good, the rest is broken < 1627887681 468107 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the next valid word is only 37, and 20 is a Russian word if you strip the _ < 1627887707 166237 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :rabota = job < 1627887776 598003 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose 15000 is big enough to not miss popular words, among the top-100 list that it produced < 1627887796 620280 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the next 100 had several errors, didn't count < 1627888124 324389 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :117 nofficial 160 erchat 164 ernet 175 nchain etc. and some of them are weird but can be real words from languages I don't know < 1627891048 205068 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1627891565 791010 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1627891706 706912 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1627894693 647890 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :Stupid chrome forgets basic auth both on desktop and mobile < 1627894708 835489 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I use it for my thelounge < 1627895658 889839 :Koen_!~Koen@76.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN #esolangs * :Koen < 1627897176 895367 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.254.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1627899864 730165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1627900466 532900 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1627900487 714010 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1627904284 836575 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.254.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1627905167 884771 :Koen_!~Koen@76.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1627908049 479404 :PinealGlandOptic!~PinealGla@37.115.210.35 QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1627909463 329690 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Gducrash 5* 10New user account > 1627910111 762611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86811&oldid=86795 5* 03Gducrash 5* (+229) 10/* Introductions */ < 1627910623 816213 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1627911765 985351 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Zouguangchen 5* 10New user account > 1627913912 366619 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07LTMCBCBYCII14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86812&oldid=86800 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-4) 10Unpipe < 1627914110 227225 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.254.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1627918303 852128 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1627918842 923509 :Koen_!~Koen@76.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN #esolangs * :Koen < 1627919201 109837 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1627921651 264602 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi < 1627921700 457340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`" < 1627921702 314275 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1/1:892) okay so like do Or do not? no no do There is no do not. \ 824) Do physicists have half-life crises? < 1627921797 653956 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow < 1627921802 804704 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :`', < 1627921806 328037 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​',? No such file or directory < 1627921841 864005 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`' < 1627921843 105451 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :852) yes Windows 98 installer, please perform a bad blocks scan of your virtual emulated hard drive you have no idea how completely i control your so-called reality < 1627921849 185301 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A single quote and a double quote. Checks out. < 1627922033 305534 :Koen_!~Koen@76.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1627922942 777608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://gitlab.com/gpsd/gpsd/-/issues/144 is funny: "We would have gotten away with it too if there had been a leap second in the meantime" < 1627923790 859415 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.charlton.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1627923995 641013 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Woah, I'd never heard of global warming making Earth spin faster. < 1627924034 291300 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(apparently explaining the recent lack of leap seconds) < 1627924049 613832 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :we literally can't predict leap seconds < 1627924058 705580 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's never been any leap seconds removed either < 1627924090 137358 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's what I thought so far :P < 1627924182 631338 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, maybe I have the orders of magnitude incorrect. > 1627924238 698732 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Epidemic714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86813&oldid=83961 5* 03Epidemic7 5* (-220) 10Blanked the page < 1627924373 663698 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So, eh, not sure it explains anything. But it's still an interesting phenomenon. I /think/ it says that the effect slightly outweighs the tidal slowdown in their scenario, resulting in a speedup of 0.12ms over 200 years rather than a slowdown by 4.6ms. < 1627924394 672721 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But the article could be written more clearly... < 1627924464 459961 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I read that the causes of variation of spin time are not all known < 1627924470 685874 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the ones that are known are chaotic < 1627924580 950934 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :More weirdness: "Over the past 3000 years, the core of the Earth has been speeding up a little, and the mantle-crust on which we stand is slowing down." https://phys.org/news/2015-12-scientists-reveal-rotation-earth-core.html < 1627924597 752441 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :D: < 1627924757 910928 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, at least there are a couple of mechanisms that I can understand: 1) As glaciers melt, melted water moves closer to the Earth's axis. 2) As arctic and antarctic ice melt, there's less pressure pushing the poles into the earth, so it becomes a little bit rounder, moving the whole surface closer to the center. < 1627924782 926005 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And by "understand" I mean they're plausible :P < 1627924829 780116 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have no hope of estimating how big those effects are without some serious study. < 1627925036 928071 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Which won't happen :P) > 1627925161 634484 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Headass14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86814&oldid=86780 5* 03TheJonyMyster 5* (+32) 10cornercase < 1627925767 914103 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1627925825 712781 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1627926915 224020 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< 1627934697 417676 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Swiss Ephemeris has a function for tidal acceleration; is that related to things that you mention? > 1627934954 147973 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86826&oldid=86806 5* 03TheJonyMyster 5* (+14) 10added headass to language list < 1627935166 57862 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river > 1627936378 145787 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86827&oldid=86824 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+5251) 10/* Command Line Tool */ Filled out all CLI sections > 1627936611 539879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86828&oldid=86827 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+261) 10/* File */ Elaborated on the Interpreter return value > 1627936702 88955 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86829&oldid=86828 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+34) 10/* File */ Fixed wording in last sentence > 1627936787 253215 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86830&oldid=86829 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-18) 10/* Numbers */ Added table header > 1627936817 766557 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86831&oldid=86830 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-10) 10/* Booleans */ Added table header > 1627936879 725062 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86832&oldid=86831 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-27) 10/* Characters */ Added table header < 1627937091 85183 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.254.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1627937231 401173 :Koen_!~Koen@76.169.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... > 1627937405 78918 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86833&oldid=86832 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+1) 10/* Characters */ Fixed wording < 1627939615 341820 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 JOIN #esolangs delta23 :delta23__ < 1627939645 106248 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1627940918 455299 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, IBM Ponder This is back to normal (a bit of number crunching). < 1627940953 794650 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But is it really a "Starship" if it doesn't get any closer to any other star than the one it starts next to? < 1627941149 400320 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Where did starships come up? < 1627941317 839140 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :They didn't, that was apropos of nothing. < 1627941354 729322 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was reading an article about some photos Uncle Elon had posted in the context of an orbital visit. < 1627941380 104198 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, still lifes aren't considered to be starships, so maybe that's your answer. < 1627941400 408590 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, that thing. < 1627941426 696118 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Aren't those called spaceships in Life anyway? < 1627941428 617480 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN #esolangs * :Thelie < 1627941470 132355 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, right. < 1627941500 842651 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :If Elon's was called the Spaceship, I couldn't complain, because it does go to space. < 1627941536 661648 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see. What about a solar probe? < 1627941593 285642 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess that could be a starship. Have we actually sent anything into the Sun though? < 1627941640 693685 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"The Parker Solar Probe is the first spacecraft to fly into the low solar corona." Maybe that will count. < 1627941689 657830 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although they say it'll be "within 9.86 solar radii -- from the center of the Sun", and I guess really it should be strictly less than 1. < 1627941708 736016 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1627941759 796757 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"The solar radius is usually defined as the radius to the layer in the Sun's photosphere where the optical depth equals 2/3." Sounds pretty arbitrary. < 1627941805 466923 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, so it's not a starship unless it actually burns up in one? < 1627941907 960666 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, I mean, I think that's maybe a little negative. But I think maybe it should either touch a star, or alternatively there should exist a point during its journey when the nearest star is not the same as at some other point. < 1627941914 931090 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, can C++ break out of several loops without using goto yet... < 1627941923 595028 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not exceptions) < 1627941929 346440 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/not/nor/ < 1627941986 369109 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think they've added that. < 1627941990 898694 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Pfft: "No, don't spoil it with a break. This is the last remaining stronghold for the use of goto." < 1627942007 498648 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean the Vikings already knew that burning ships is the way to go. < 1627942033 967761 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which languages have a multi-level break where the operand is an integer denoting the number of loops to break, rather than a label? And of those languages, how many allow the integer to be non-constant? < 1627942050 500866 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :PHP at least. < 1627942053 995189 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh boy. < 1627942066 471370 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Actually, I don't know if it can be a non-constant, but I'd sort of expect. < 1627942124 808172 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"PHP Fatal error: 'break' operator with non-integer operand is no longer supported" :/ :\ < 1627942134 367833 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do note the "no longer" in there though. < 1627942146 836323 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :TFW... bugs make your program better. < 1627942300 817833 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :PHP is now developed by a bunch of cowards. < 1627942307 861958 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :I bet they don't use strlen as their hash function anymore either. < 1627942730 312915 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I think dc has such a multi-level break < 1627942771 9983 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :UGH, why do people hate contrast so much < 1627942799 193789 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(cf. source code examples from https://esolangs.org/wiki/Minim ...except for the yellow used for brackets) < 1627942809 42463 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's the Q command in dc < 1627942887 728840 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN #esolangs Melvar :melvar < 1627942910 595494 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: That's a pretty excessive example. Especially the string literals and comments. < 1627942948 886128 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: oh, and there's Intercal, I think it has a dynamic multi-level break too < 1627942965 688893 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1627942986 623900 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN #esolangs Melvar :melvar > 1627943021 439313 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86834&oldid=86833 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+144) 10/* Statements */ Added Memory Push and Memory Pop stubs < 1627943056 633099 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, it's a multi-level return < 1627943066 823449 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(same for dc) < 1627943075 403406 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not quite the same :P < 1627943106 302107 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"This is because the easiest way to implement an if-like construct in INTERCAL-72 is by NEXTING, then NEXTING again, then RESUMING either by 1 or 2 according to an expression, and then if the expression evaluated to 1 FORGETTING the remaining NEXT stack entry." It's a nice manual. < 1627943135 271512 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :does words (the program in HackEso) have an evaluate mode, as opposed to a generate mode, so that you give it a word, and it outputs the information (log probability) in it based on the model? < 1627943169 89150 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think it has that implemented. < 1627943181 189855 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ok, but in dc about the only way to write a loop is by repeatedly executing a macro, so that's what a multi-level break should look like < 1627943187 418597 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as in tail-recursing a macro < 1627943215 282730 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, which is why I only interjected when you brought it up for intercal < 1627943270 423683 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you need some lexical blocks in the language in order for a dynamic multi-level break to feel ridiculous. < 1627943292 307599 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can a PHP break cross function boundaries? < 1627943301 182331 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I saw something like this in a language besides the ones we mentioned > 1627943338 352007 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86835&oldid=86834 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+4) 10/* Fibonacci */ Added link < 1627943365 318198 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I ended up with this... https://paste.debian.net/1206394/ (top: what I wanted, bottom: the result) < 1627943424 184471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, I messed up the hypothetical code, didn't I. < 1627943426 510091 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :whatever < 1627943496 857545 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah yes, (0) has multi-level break using a number that gives the depth, but only for a constant depth, not dynamic. the language spec doesn't say if it works past a function boundary, I assumed no because that was convenient because I wanted to transpile the language, not implement something in it. < 1627943529 670499 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's where I must have seen it < 1627943576 659133 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`BEGIN AGAIN` in Forth is an infinite loop, which doesn't really fit the English meaning of that sentence fragment. < 1627943577 861554 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :BEGIN? No such file or directory < 1627943767 744461 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wonder if there's any production Forth code that says at some point ... THEN BEGIN AGAIN ... that's there, e.g., to give a supposedly unreachable piece of code defined semantics of just hanging up in there. < 1627943922 209119 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` ulimit -t 1; forth ': foo if ." all good" exit then begin again ; 0 foo' # or something along those lines < 1627943924 482283 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: 52 Killed forth ': foo if ." all good" exit then begin again ; 0 foo' < 1627944141 52412 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: is that like the infamous {redo} in perl? < 1627944213 548304 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which geo knows as (*) < 1627944237 454437 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(shows that you can express useless stuff easily in that language, but not useful stuff) < 1627944343 371295 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently today's https://xkcd.com/2497/ mentions something that has come up often on #esoteric < 1627944803 144420 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Forth control structures are pretty flexible. The compilation semantics of `BEGIN` push the address of the next word to the control-flow stack, and `AGAIN` pops it. `UNTIL` is the same except it also pops a value at run-time to decide whether to follow the branch or not. So while you can use BEGIN ... UNTIL for `do {...} while (!cond)` and `BEGIN ... AGAIN` for `for (;;) {...}` loops, you < 1627944804 492321 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :can also just mix the words up if you happen to need something strange. (I'm not very good at Forth.) > 1627944932 207644 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86836&oldid=86835 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+15313) 10/* Fibonacci */ Added syntax highlighting > 1627945558 969865 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86837&oldid=86836 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+37) 10/* Characters */ Added double quote > 1627945585 902729 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86838&oldid=86837 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+0) 10/* Characters */ Fixed double quote name > 1627945871 946397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86839&oldid=86838 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+152) 10/* Size (-s) */ Added formatting to examples > 1627945938 929128 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86840&oldid=86839 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-5) 10/* Comments */ Removed separators > 1627945958 122454 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86841&oldid=86840 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-5) 10/* Memory */ Removed separators > 1627946013 818151 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86842&oldid=86841 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-35) 10/* Memory */ Removed separators > 1627946036 537351 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86843&oldid=86842 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (-10) 10/* Memory */ Removed separators < 1627946114 964873 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1627947416 996041 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't like the conditions of dc much and I think that arithmetic if would be a better command to add into dc for implementing conditions > 1627948044 720879 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Bitwise Cyclic Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86844&oldid=79818 5* 03CosmicMan08 5* (+610) 10/* Python Interpreter */ new section