< 1628467202 881542 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1628467224 638724 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat > 1628468524 204211 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Minim14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87085&oldid=87075 5* 03KakkoiiChris 5* (+389) 10/* Binary Operators */ Added mod operator section < 1628468686 885214 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://i.redd.it/46fs3yad25g71.jpg < 1628468706 685762 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I disliked multiocular o before it was cool < 1628469454 310381 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow < 1628469459 589776 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's even cooler than liking it before it was cool < 1628469626 128887 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I think it's not a specific hate for multiocular o, it's just a general hate for when people substitute the incorrect letter just because it's cool, including using metal umlauts or fake cyrillic < 1628469638 452203 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/ fake / faux / < 1628469892 759545 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :How about when people just drop diacritical marks assuming they can't be that important? < 1628469951 565615 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I don't mind that too much except in a few cases where there is an ambiguity < 1628469960 210238 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hungarian is great for this by the way < 1628470007 172 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like because of the vowel harmony, you can sometimes recover the distinction between o and ö from a suffix < 1628470057 939698 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and you can usually guess between a and á and between e and é, or the distinction doesn't matter, though there are a few specific cases where they do matter and cause an ambiguity and you should keep the accent if the context is confusing < 1628470086 583340 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I participate in quite some online chat in Hungarian where a lot of users (including me) drop the accents < 1628470087 641898 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remember trying to find the most semantically disastrous pairing of words in Finnish distinguished only by a/ä or o/ö differences, but I don't think I came up with any particularly great examples. There's a lot of word pairs with entirely different meanings, but mostly they're just things where substituting the other word in any plausible sense just makes it sound like nonsense. < 1628470130 233787 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although välittää 'to care' and valittaa 'to complain' maybe has some potential. < 1628470142 401611 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Maybe in a relationship setting. < 1628470159 685646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: cꙮl < 1628470169 138687 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: an example I find quite humorous is a certain ad that only shows a domain name "boresmez.hu", which could stand for either "bor és méz" or "bőr és mez". but you can't get this sort of thing if there's more context. < 1628470170 786455 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://gizmodo.com/a-cellphones-missing-dot-kills-two-people-puts-three-m-382026 < 1628470214 596434 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the majority of what actually cause problems in practice are ambiguities in noun suffixes, though there are also a few where the ambiguity is in the word root < 1628470325 104563 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :keegan: Oh, that reminds me of the one that actually does regularly come up in IRC conversations, namely näin ("I saw") vs. nain (colloquialism for "I fucked"), especially when you're trying to say you saw someone you knew somewhere. < 1628470796 440897 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :ha < 1628470799 631494 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :that could be awkward, yes < 1628470802 294939 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.charlton.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1628470808 416916 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: yeah, but there are so many words that are slang for sex that they always cause ambiguities. one I particularly hate is "make out" which can mean to percieve < 1628470845 846676 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :usually it's transitive when it means perceive and intransitive when it's about sex, but not always < 1628471355 586561 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh < 1628471390 607909 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :making out doesn't strictly mean sex, at least in american english < 1628471455 367530 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure < 1628471466 59287 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it is conceptually adjacent < 1628471494 574752 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there were a few other English ambiguities similar to this, but I can't recall them right now < 1628478000 474124 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 QUIT :Quit: I 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Pic. - my name since YOLD 3149 < 1628485524 373093 :leah2!~leah@vuxu.org JOIN #esolangs * :Leah Neukirchen < 1628485527 330492 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi JOIN #esolangs * :HackEso < 1628485580 266311 :daggy1234[m]!~daggy1234@2001:470:69fc:105::d315 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1628485580 559252 :craigoverend[m]!~craigover@2001:470:69fc:105::12bc QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1628485593 967042 :int-e_!~noone@int-e.eu NICK :int-e < 1628485615 961396 :fizzie[m]!~fizzie@2001:470:69fc:105::3727 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1628486113 129578 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have written a binding to sendmsg(2)/recvmsg(2) in Haskell and found that the tests I then wrote did pass, so passing file descriptors over a unix socket with my binding works. < 1628486122 626603 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :However, I then discoverd something *very annoying*. < 1628486219 239276 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :If a stream socket is used, and one side sends a chunk with some fds, then if the other side receives this section of the message as two chunks, the fds will be attached to the *first* of them. < 1628486293 64042 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :This is annoying because one might want to send a logical message as one chunk with fds, but have the message include a header that specifies how many fds should be expected (since the receiver must allocate memory to receive them in). < 1628486360 788654 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :So this is not possible, since the receiver cannot receive the header before receiving the fds. < 1628487176 670254 :daggy1234[m]!~daggy1234@2001:470:69fc:105::d315 JOIN #esolangs * :@daggy1234:matrix.org < 1628487177 29411 :craigoverend[m]!~craigover@2001:470:69fc:105::12bc JOIN #esolangs * :@craigoverend:matrix.org < 1628487242 391134 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Then you should have to expect a reply, I suppose < 1628487417 329016 :fizzie[m]!~fizzie@2001:470:69fc:105::3727 JOIN #esolangs * :@fizzie:zem.fi < 1628487993 954883 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :Since this is because I want to play around with the wayland protocol, I’m looking what they actually do in their own C code, and, well, they buffer outbound messages so basically you can’t know in advance where in the stream the fds are attached at all. You just have to always expect up to 28 (that’s a #define in their code) and maintain a queue of them alongside reading messages from the < 1628487995 886592 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :socket. < 1628488095 995389 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Wait, the Wayland protocol sends file descriptors over a stream socket? < 1628488107 524859 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes. < 1628488157 159518 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, I guess the best thing to be said in favor of the Wayland protocol is that you're pretty much not allowed to implement it yourself anyway. < 1628488168 575351 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :So it doesn't matter what nonsense they do. < 1628488867 443256 :Deewiant!~deewiant@2001:470:69fc:105::2fd3 JOIN #esolangs Deewiant :@deewiant:maon.fi < 1628489785 310498 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :One of the things they’re used for is to avoid sending bulk data in-band. I think if you copy-paste something, the actual data never passes through the server, one client just sends an fd which the server then sends to another client who can then read the clipboard content from it. < 1628490415 673232 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1628490548 710820 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1628490548 758039 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1628490852 959198 :spruit11_!~quassel@2a02:a467:ccd6:1:90c7:da5b:b845:b6e9 JOIN #esolangs * :anon < 1628490853 946317 :jryans!~jryans@2001:470:69fc:105::1d JOIN #esolangs jryans :@jryans:matrix.org < 1628491020 290982 :spruit11!~quassel@2a02:a467:ccd6:1:55d2:a8d9:e00b:3a3a QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1628491202 945605 :spruit11_!~quassel@2a02:a467:ccd6:1:90c7:da5b:b845:b6e9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1628491538 926933 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1628491995 291815 :spruit11!~quassel@2a02:a467:ccd6:1:90c7:da5b:b845:b6e9 JOIN #esolangs * :anon < 1628492278 248545 :spruit11!~quassel@2a02:a467:ccd6:1:90c7:da5b:b845:b6e9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1628492411 940844 :spruit11!~quassel@2a02:a467:ccd6:1:90c7:da5b:b845:b6e9 JOIN #esolangs * :anon > 1628493343 821975 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Programming languages with unusual features14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87086&oldid=84499 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+616) 10 < 1628494382 684783 :leah2!~leah@vuxu.org QUIT :Quit: trotz alledem! < 1628494394 304121 :leah2!~leah@vuxu.org JOIN #esolangs leah2 :Leah Neukirchen < 1628496362 635532 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat < 1628496516 632087 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1628498048 885854 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1 < 1628498069 207771 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly JOIN #esolangs FireFly :firefly < 1628498428 116204 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 JOIN #esolangs delta23 :delta23__ < 1628498466 382627 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1628499728 129199 :EPic_!apic@apic.name QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1628499736 151754 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN #esolangs APic :A. 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mar 1628521384 884602 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87090&oldid=86340 5* 03Martsadas 5* (-130) 10 > 1628521595 99328 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87091&oldid=87090 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+23713) 10 < 1628525423 155092 :archenoth!~archenoth@S0106889e6827f474.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1628526573 129279 :archenoth!~archenoth@S0106889e6827f474.cg.shawcable.net JOIN #esolangs Archenoth :archenoth < 1628527195 944550 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1628527201 566887 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello esotericians < 1628527230 803363 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :why?... https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%92%80%B1 < 1628527253 805966 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :Woah!!!! < 1628527259 662044 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats so cool thanks for sharing < 1628527275 205227 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :use it now as a variable identifier < 1628527278 23578 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :everywhere < 1628527453 615050 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.reddit.com/r/Unicode/comments/5qa7e7/widestlongest_unicode_characters_list/ < 1628527522 908497 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs : ̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺̺ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ < 1628527589 530880 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+130B8#:~:text=Unicode%20Character%20%E2%80%9C%F0%93%82%B8%E2%80%9D%20(U,Egyptian%20Hieroglyph%20D052 < 1628527626 290080 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :omg that's all the alphabet I need 𓂸 < 1628527651 872941 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :𓂸𓂸𓂸𓂸 < 1628527656 716175 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :haha < 1628527665 95698 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i love unicode < 1628527676 327536 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :they're adding pregnant men emojis now < 1628527691 787655 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://emojipedia.org/unicode-14.0/ < 1628527700 114725 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :every possible permutation and combination of emojis needs to be added < 1628527777 567015 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.charlton.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam < 1628527910 770692 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :my favourite unicode symbol is "invisible plus" < 1628527924 741392 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :,u invisible plus < 1628527933 541122 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :there it is < 1628527956 928567 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :invisible times separator and plus < 1628527987 26924 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :not to be confused with zero width joiner < 1628528036 819731 :Koen_!~Koen@222.172.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN #esolangs * :Koen < 1628528927 529159 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :20:08:38 *** 𓂸: Erroneous Nickname < 1628528929 432759 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn < 1628529103 111809 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.2 < 1628529391 124678 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :someone really should declare a unicode version without useless stuff < 1628529423 907700 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is no need of storing images of pregnant men and shumere symbols on all my devices, I just don't want them < 1628529497 266112 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if you necessarily need a different Unicode version for that, you just need a font with less coverage. < 1628529523 864177 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe < 1628529534 513912 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`' may you live < 1628529535 478081 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :990) "May you live in INVISIBLE TIMES." --Old Chinese proverb. (It can look confusing when written with the proper Unicode.) < 1628529643 822469 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's pretty nifty. It renews the hope of typesetting maths with Unicode alone. < 1628529754 123334 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm ok with ability to use the same application and font to be able to write text to each other using native alphabets of all existing languages on the earth < 1628529800 40932 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but pregnant men isn't a language, it's just a "random" image that I might not want to be inserted in my screen in random chats < 1628529938 128060 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would limit color usage at all < 1628529978 519794 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :to only maybe country flags and as a modifier to usual symbols to make is possible to type a red circle, green arrow, etc. < 1628530015 117192 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :What's a "green arrow"? Doesn't sound like a language, just some random image~ < 1628530039 787776 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok, remove colors then < 1628530051 198933 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :apply styles in other ways < 1628530173 66289 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or maybe Unicode's bigger than your individual needs and desires. < 1628530209 641012 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's them who are pushing their personal needs and desires onto my screen < 1628530244 746457 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :pushing their things into a standard < 1628530284 97269 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :forcing my software download the pictures I don't want with every update < 1628530329 198287 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :waah waah < 1628530343 3207 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :who gives a shit < 1628530375 634636 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :aren't there bigger problems in the world < 1628530402 53497 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :are you also upset about all the flags of countries you don't like and all the symbols of religions you don't adhere to < 1628530403 964935 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's a fallacy. No amount of improvement to Unicode will magically put food onto peoples' plates, for example. < 1628530409 745001 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :why shouldn't unicode be for you and only you < 1628530436 10901 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :But yeah, basically, Unicode is an international diplomatic project too, not just an engineering project. < 1628530467 407606 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :where did I say I'm "upset about the flags of countries I don't like"? < 1628530483 514362 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :you sound like the people who get angry because starbucks didn't write "merry christmas" on their coffee cup > 1628530484 502796 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Smileyface14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=87092 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+1399) 10Created page with "{{wrongtitle|title=:)}}
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..." < 1628530510 748394 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :don't bring the politics in here < 1628530519 431686 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :you already did < 1628530527 288462 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :what? < 1628530616 186721 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :The position that there is "useless stuff" in Unicode is political. < 1628530625 346029 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :woah < 1628530678 383408 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Seriously! fizzie had an excellent summary of why in their first reply: You can customize your own display of Unicode in any way that you want, assuming you control your computer. You can choose whichever fonts you like, and you can configure your renderer to avoid wasting energy decoding "useless" code points. < 1628530716 467973 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Going beyond that, altering the shared standard itself, is quite political, even ignoring the geopolitics and diplomacy: You're trying to change policies which affect many people. < 1628530721 570635 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's what the community projects are for < 1628530739 153717 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :reject bad standards, adopting better standards < 1628530781 616784 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are changing the policies that are affecting me < 1628530787 898087 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and all the people < 1628530822 206429 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :when my grandma bought a smartphone she didn't accept the policy of getting egyptian dickpics in SMS < 1628530891 120124 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :lots of codepages were invented in lots of countries for their local needs and that's what unicode was supposed to solve by uniting the alphabets and the most basic symbols < 1628530894 78293 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it went shit < 1628530920 242011 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ambiguous "they" fallacy. The "they" who produce smartphone fonts (Apple, Google) are not the Unicode Consortium. < 1628530951 741067 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't say apple and google did that < 1628530984 956069 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they would be able to switch or provide an option to switch to a new standard without shit < 1628531089 602952 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :20:34:27 where did I say I'm "upset about the flags of countries I don't like"? < 1628531098 532677 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the question is still not answered > 1628531098 954714 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Heck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87093&oldid=87078 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+62) 10 > 1628531126 680733 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Hing.png10]]" < 1628531209 119588 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was a question not a statement < 1628531252 954596 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay > 1628531342 857871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 overwrite10 02 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* 10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Hing.png10]]" < 1628531447 749339 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :those who want more symbols can just "customize their own display of Unicode" < 1628531465 545025 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :not mine < 1628531526 285676 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the country flags in Unicode are seriously messed up, because the individual flags are not encoded directly, but through their ISO-3166-1 codes, and those codes can be reassigned to entirely unrelated countries, which means that if you encode a flag in unicode, it can be replaced by an entirely different flag later. The whole thing is so new that only like two codes got reassigned so far, and those were < 1628531532 298514 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably before the flags got encoded in unicode this way, but this is the kind of short-sited arrangement by people who don't care what happens after they leave their current job, because they won't be accountable. < 1628531563 706726 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Same as the people who ask for abolishing leap seconds, because it would make their job right now easier, and who cares what happens a hundred years from now. I hate those people.) < 1628531603 729147 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And it looks like not two but three ISO-3166-1 country codes got reassigned so far. < 1628531682 944916 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN #esolangs Melvar :melvar < 1628531688 75836 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :The whole thing goes against the general idea that unicode code points should have a permanent meaning that isn't changed in the future. Was probably invented by Americans who don't realize how often countries change. < 1628531711 26978 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Really trying to assign two-letter codes to countries was a disastrously stupid idea in first place. < 1628531715 363619 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, that's such a bogus situation. Somebody thought that they were being clever, but really they should have given an entire block over for country flags and left the top half unused for expansion. < 1628531793 346624 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( What happens if we ever get more than 676 countries? Maybe at that point we'd be too busy fighting to worry about country codes) < 1628531802 84670 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's only an inventory for 676 codes, for a changing pool of about 200 countries. < 1628531830 473202 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :Assuming you’re talking about flag emoji … technically the codepoints have fixed meaning: they are simply references to a separate standard (the one which assigns the two-letter codes). < 1628531852 44910 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :twist: 677 countries fighting over who doesn't get a two letter country code. < 1628531856 802684 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :how often do you use unicode flags anyway? I see them in games and on websites, and browsers are perfectly fine with inserting small gif/png pictures for them, and even if you browser is textual it's fine to write the language as a text < 1628531875 934331 :Koen_!~Koen@222.172.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1628531885 639643 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: nah, it's only at 678 countries. at 677 countries, one of them is Taiwan and they can't get one anyway. < 1628531919 425150 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is political < 1628531920 670104 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: too real < 1628531928 357646 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though in practice there are quite some of those codes reserved for things that aren't countries, or aren't countries anymore, but were in too recent past and can't be reassigned yet < 1628531947 629672 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the stupidest part is that they also delete and reassign the corresonding top-level domain names < 1628531988 827347 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not talking about the ones that are reassigned, because nobody really used the west sahara TLD, but about the Yugoslavia ones that were in some use but then got deleted < 1628531997 55764 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was falsely muted on this channel when people brought politics in and I wasn't doing that < 1628531997 485341 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's the ultimate way to break links < 1628532030 805210 :orichalcumcosmon!~orichalcu@159.196.0.223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: there is a taiwan flag emoji tho? https://emojipedia.org/flag-taiwan/ < 1628532074 701332 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :or will you finally admit you muted me just because I'm Russian? < 1628532100 205718 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I won't be muted if I was American and just quoting the history of Indians < 1628532271 577706 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you -- users of this channel other than me -- were political; you were saying that this country is bad, this one is good, etc. -- I didn't say that, those were your words, your hate; and then you said a blatant lie that those were my words < 1628532321 240641 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then muted me for a chat message a one page above YOUR hate messages, where I just quoted a historical fact < 1628532512 408642 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Just because you can't recognize when you pick political topics, does not mean that the topics weren't political. < 1628532591 390665 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, Yugoslavia and Taiwan sin't political, Russia is < 1628532655 383517 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can't recognize when you apply double standards < 1628532669 861970 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :whats the deal with taiwan? < 1628532701 458737 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: was this today you got muted? < 1628532712 395621 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :not today < 1628532716 410884 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1628532760 65297 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I never had an apology for the repetitive hate towards me by a small subset of local users < 1628532807 639601 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i dont know what happened < 1628532819 549377 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but my advice is forget about it < 1628532823 913488 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :it probably doesn't matter < 1628532833 667512 :dyeplexer!~dyeplexer@user/dyeplexer JOIN #esolangs dyeplexer :t b k ky jt h bc > 1628532913 558659 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Smileyface14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87096&oldid=87092 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+905) 10 < 1628533042 341693 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan this is annoying < 1628533048 776891 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :they just should sort it out < 1628533053 603571 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :should just* < 1628533082 476418 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I agree, they should just sort out all problems, then we wouldn't have any problems. < 1628533089 320854 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :+1 < 1628533101 273247 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The first rule of tautology club and all that. < 1628533105 589601 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't have a problem with them < 1628533113 248610 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are thousands of kilometers away < 1628533238 935975 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know a girl who studies a lot and learns Chinese to move to China < 1628533297 582157 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean mandarine or whatever it is, I have no clue < 1628533395 642005 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: nah, we're probably happier while nothing is "sorted out", because that's a euphemism for war < 1628534331 183894 :dyeplexer!~dyeplexer@user/dyeplexer QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1628534772 68679 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :what would the country code for independent California be? .ca is already taken < 1628535167 777196 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :Georgia also already exists < 1628535202 51938 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1628535565 208703 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :keegan: us-CA < 1628535670 722344 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's not a 2 letter country code > 1628535709 811436 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Smileyface14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87097&oldid=87096 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+4380) 10 < 1628535745 355850 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :cf is taken too < 1628535757 139228 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :by the Central African Republic < 1628535820 966778 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :in fact C followed by any of ALIFORN are all taken > 1628535856 122661 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Smileyface14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87098&oldid=87097 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+50) 10 > 1628535883 451159 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Martsadas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87099&oldid=86766 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+30) 10 > 1628535907 877588 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Martsadas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87100&oldid=87099 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+0) 10 > 1628535921 40840 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Martsadas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87101&oldid=87100 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+4) 10 > 1628535994 969752 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Smileyface14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87102&oldid=87098 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+0) 10 < 1628536628 696471 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, because there are only 676 two-letter codes and some letters are rare < 1628536663 838928 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.charlton.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1628536677 509747 :orichalcumcosmon!~orichalcu@159.196.0.223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there’s 17576 3-letter codes < 1628536685 829594 :orichalcumcosmon!~orichalcu@159.196.0.223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe one of those would fit < 1628536711 556130 :orichalcumcosmon!~orichalcu@159.196.0.223 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or was that language codes > 1628537732 280082 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Functionality14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87103&oldid=87081 5* 03Dominicentek 5* (-1) 10 < 1628538232 30412 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: Well, I'm sorry that you feel wronged. < 1628538297 839239 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It's hard to never be wrong.) < 1628538463 198276 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmfdeWd0RMk < 1628538466 558875 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i linked this before < 1628538472 452242 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :but its good so i have linked it again < 1628540025 643831 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Meh. The "joke" (buried in the middle of the video) is basing a system of measurements on 3 units all starting with c: c, the speed of light; cal, the calory, and C_4, the frequency of the middle C. < 1628540040 785016 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :As far as I can tell, the rest is a lecture on units of measurements. < 1628540159 494942 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1628540164 211961 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i thought that was funny < 1628540170 621554 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry you didn't like it as much < 1628540235 6797 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a cute idea but I resent the attempt to waste my time (I clicked around the video until I found the joke instead) < 1628540287 447720 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was wasting time anyway, so I don't resent that bit, but I was left disappointed because I was expecting a pun. < 1628540300 950373 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: is that like the furlong fortnight wahtever the third was unit system? < 1628540310 862905 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The FFF system is mentioned in the video, yes. < 1628540312 876669 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-074-060-118.092.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :(firkin) < 1628540318 687916 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmm < 1628540325 81065 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :i never thought of it as wasting time on purpose < 1628540513 247536 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: it's not exactly the video author's fault; aiui, youtube monetizes videos based on the time people spend watching them < 1628540720 55191 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :farad < 1628540724 348144 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or fahrenheit < 1628541784 238928 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`q motio < 1628541785 265849 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :482) FFS, building a perpetual motion machine should not be this hard. < 1628542438 815095 :dermato!~dermatobr@cpe-70-114-219-76.austin.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1628542541 81201 :dermato!~dermatobr@154.21.23.75 JOIN #esolangs dermato :dermato < 1628543442 132251 :vyv!~vyv@bras-vprn-nrbaon0452w-lp130-25-184-147-14-206.dsl.bell.ca JOIN #esolangs vyv :vyv verver < 1628543533 47017 :teaml!~teaml@ip68-228-22-25.pn.at.cox.net JOIN #esolangs * :TeamLightning < 1628545083 330247 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( The trick to making a perpetuum mobile is to just keep going. ) < 1628545146 303195 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :you need a crank that never stops < 1628545157 232684 :river!uid512128@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :turning < 1628545180 168694 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Isn't that what all the perpetual motion proponents are, cranks that never stop?" < 1628545229 169808 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`q motio < 1628545230 101825 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :482) FFS, building a perpetual motion machine should not be this hard. < 1628545247 434878 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :still the same < 1628545298 982874 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a song about perpetual motion machine, but the lyrics are in Finnish, so I think you'll miss a lot of it, sorry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE7TOaTv3SI < 1628545304 310335 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The original is in Swedish, I believe. < 1628545348 479758 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it one of those infinite songs? < 1628545353 352281 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_is_the_song_that_never_ends < 1628545369 894190 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, it just describes a machine that produces electricity to keep itself going. < 1628545485 381608 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :In Swedish, for reasons of fairness and equal time and all that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtua8rqCNC0 < 1628545670 357639 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did find an a cappella group doing a version in English at a live show in South Korea too, but... < 1628546575 634495 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.charlton.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam > 1628547031 423118 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PL2 vCPU14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87104&oldid=87084 5* 03TeamLightning 5* (+25) 10Changed Hello World to PL2 ASM, changed commit. < 1628547038 164829 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :where is fungot < 1628547087 683160 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just wanted to ask him if he's perpetual but he appears to be not _-- < 1628547443 693276 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, huh. < 1628547550 882752 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It'll have been that TCP connection thing we discussed the last time this happened. < 1628547583 541114 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which I said it won't help to solve until I can teach the Befunge part to (a) persist the ignore list and (b) autojoin channels, which takes some :effort:. < 1628547588 490739 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Let's just fix it manually again. < 1628547598 492865 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( optimistic TCP: the connection is half open ) < 1628547628 678565 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a JOIN #esolangs fungot :fungot-0.1 < 1628547643 435133 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It dropped off already on Aug 4 and I didn't notice. :/ < 1628547697 616364 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^style < 1628547697 644376 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube < 1628547706 729820 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: what ircs you, my friend? < 1628547706 836236 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: s/ thins/ this/ < 1628547792 94998 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-71.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, is the future always in motion? < 1628547792 454213 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: or is there some way to represent the fnord system and all local names are determined in the binary to install. < 1628547850 248292 :vyv!~vyv@bras-vprn-nrbaon0452w-lp130-25-184-147-14-206.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Konversation terminated! < 1628549733 24799 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hate to do temporal workarounds and doing things in the unplanned order < 1628549745 311059 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so velik is currently waiting for when I finish making my monitoring thing < 1628549766 810187 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it weights when google fix the bug on their side < 1628549769 982484 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*waits < 1628549887 200821 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I have no idea when it will be fixed because their ticket shows up as "195636524[Details unavailable.]" < 1628549905 966461 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :(195 mln tickets?...) < 1628550483 280880 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Tempted to look that up, but I couldn't comment even if I did, so it'd be pretty pointless. < 1628551896 95815 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :what? you can look up internal google tickets? < 1628552102 998049 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, I work there, and most of the time bugs with numbers like that are viewable to all employees. Though that might well be one of the exceptions, if it's a customer issue and might contain some identifying details. < 1628552192 286289 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :woah < 1628552213 903962 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :for how long you work there? < 1628552242 836395 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :For a while now, since 2015. < 1628552514 836343 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's cool; the Moscow office isn't for devs, only for client managers < 1628552569 644405 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :AFAIK < 1628552926 438893 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :what problems are you solving there? < 1628552951 420733 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Re offices, from what I've heard, the Helsinki office has like 12 people in it. And is just a few rented rooms in a building. Haven't even visited. < 1628553014 758017 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :In terms of that, I've been keeping it on the level of "Android app development", that way I don't have to worry about what's public and what's not. < 1628553042 870114 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there's Cloud folks in our building somewhere though. < 1628553075 705378 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :rainmakers < 1628553077 740782 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And Deepmind used to have two floors of it, they're the sexy and mysterious ones. Had it all locked down and everything. < 1628553128 878032 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There was a robotics lab or two in the floor plans in their bit. < 1628553162 780220 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(They've moved out now.) < 1628553377 401995 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :have you seen a fancy 'g"-shaped chair? < 1628553465 438675 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is one on the floor here where they do public meetups < 1628553513 648875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen < 1628553581 259786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ok, i interpreted the previous girl genius wrong, but at least i can blame the initial lack of color.