00:09:21 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Clive * New user account
00:19:39 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87634&oldid=87579 * Clive * (+330) Clive added an intro to Clive
00:22:10 <esolangs> [[User:Clive]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=87635 * Clive * (+67) Created page with "[https://eigenratios.blogspot.com Eigenratios of Self Interpreters]"
00:29:53 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87636&oldid=86266 * Clive * (+36) Changed URL for my self-interpreter to copy on web.archive.org ~~~~
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00:38:47 <esolangs> [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87637&oldid=87636 * Oerjan * (-18) /* Self-interpreters */ Use template
00:40:41 <esolangs> [[User talk:Clive]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=87638 * Oerjan * (+150) Hi!
00:43:26 <esolangs> [[XSVL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87639&oldid=87633 * ArthroStar11 * (+213) Gave link to my interpreter and added some missing categories
00:49:45 <esolangs> [[User:ArthroStar11]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87640&oldid=87620 * ArthroStar11 * (+301)
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00:56:42 <Corbin> Hm. Has anybody done an "esolang critic" sort of series, along the same lines as Conlang Critic?
01:01:08 <zzo38> How does Conlang Critic working?
01:03:04 <oerjan> languages working exactly like English :: brainfuck derivatives
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01:07:18 <zzo38> O, OK, I think I can understand how you mean, and I also think it would mean equivalents probably
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01:23:21 <esolangs> [[XSVL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87641&oldid=87639 * Threesodas * (+156)
01:24:25 <esolangs> [[XSVL]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87642&oldid=87641 * Threesodas * (+25)
01:42:48 <esolangs> [[XSVL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87643&oldid=87642 * ArthroStar11 * (+11) clarified my interp needs download and building, also updated interp to be compliant with new specification
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05:39:39 <esolangs> [[User:ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87644&oldid=84712 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+95) Profile at fandom wiki
06:40:31 <esolangs> [[Talk:Slam]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=87645 * ArthroStar11 * (+1032) Created page with "== Observations from Creator == Due to the fact that the language only gives special meaning to space and newline, treating all other characters normally; there exists a subse..."
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06:54:53 <b_jonas> no wait, MD5 is 128 bit long
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09:52:07 <esolangs> [[EsoInterpreters]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87646&oldid=83616 * Clive * (+78) Changed URLs for my BF self-interpreters to copy on web.archive.org -- cannot figure out the template method for this case!
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10:33:28 <nakilon> imagine that string to be just a fully random list of characters but the hypens randomly arranged into positions like in UUID
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12:46:24 <esolangs> [[EsoInterpreters]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87647&oldid=87646 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-45) Wayback
12:46:56 <esolangs> [[EsoInterpreters]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87648&oldid=87647 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+45) Undo revision 87647 by [[Special:Contributions/PythonshellDebugwindow|PythonshellDebugwindow]] ([[User talk:PythonshellDebugwindow|talk]])
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14:45:08 <esolangs> [[Smileyface]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87649&oldid=87112 * Martsadas * (+30)
14:58:44 <esolangs> [[Smileyface]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87650&oldid=87649 * Martsadas * (+298) comments
15:09:30 <sebbu> nakilon, ah yeah, isbn have the same issue with spaces (or hyphens) instead of just hyphens
15:10:23 <sebbu> (moreover, recent isbn are all 10 or 13 digits, but old ones aren't, and they might not even be unique as they were different tracking organisms)
15:10:59 <sebbu> (oh, and digital-only books might not have isbn at all, even if they offer to print them and send them to you in paper version)
15:12:47 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87651&oldid=87618 * Martsadas * (+20) Added Smileyface
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15:21:47 <esolangs> [[FFRISC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87652&oldid=87632 * Martsadas * (+1) Fixed typos in the categories list
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17:11:42 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Fmbalbuena * New user account
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20:19:22 <esolangs> [[User:Threesodas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87653&oldid=82442 * Threesodas * (-100)
21:16:48 <riv> i didn not know that there is a hidden bit in floating point
21:32:52 <esolangs> [[R.e.s.]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87654&oldid=72701 * Clive * (+197) Added link to some recovered r.e.s. files.
21:49:46 <shachaf> Like the bit in a file system marking whether a file is hidden?
22:12:58 * nakilon just spent another evening confirming that there is still no better alternative to graphviz dot
22:16:10 <nakilon> https://i.imgur.com/eKhLkh6.png why can't it move the "XML pot hemlet" with "canning pot" to the very right? and then move the "makeshift antiseptic" under the edge between the "Molotov" and "glass bottle"...
22:18:08 <nakilon> looks like dot is just unable to make the edges longer for the purpose of eliminating the edge crossings at all
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22:58:57 <nakilon> hmmmm imagine that there is a node A that has several parent nodes Bi and each of them has a child node Ci -- once i > 2 it is guaranteed that dot will make crossing edges
22:59:54 <nakilon> so I took a "rag" node in my graph that has the above property of "node A" and marked all A-Bi nodes as [minlen=2] so dot would be able to fit the Ci without a crossing
23:02:20 <nakilon> and looks like it really works: here is how the problem looked like - https://i.imgur.com/iC2Yzdk.png - and now it's untangled https://i.imgur.com/H5BstCu.png
23:08:36 <nakilon> the only problem is to differ A from C in mixed cases
23:16:40 <nakilon> actually you don't have to enlarge all the A-Bi edges but only n-2 of them and have to chose somehow
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23:44:56 <zzo38> Is there the graph layout software that can be called from PostScript? I would want to do my own code for providing the data and then also rendering it afterward, using the layout which will be the result
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