00:04:16 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:05:29 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:19:16 [[Vessel]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=87742 * PixelatedStarfish * (+369) Created page with "Vessel (Virtual machinE Simulating Stack and QueuE Language) is a language designed by [[User PixelatedStarfish]] in 2021. As the name suggests, the language is desig..." 00:20:10 -!- j-bot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:20:24 -!- j-bot has joined. 00:21:40 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87743&oldid=87742 * PixelatedStarfish * (+0) 00:23:20 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87744&oldid=87743 * PixelatedStarfish * (+9) 00:24:57 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87745&oldid=87744 * PixelatedStarfish * (-12) 00:36:44 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87746&oldid=87745 * PixelatedStarfish * (+2194) 00:38:55 fizzie: A computery guy? 00:43:59 What's a computery guy? 00:44:32 Colin the computer. 00:45:23 https://youtube.com/watch?v=G9FGgwCQ22w 00:54:54 -!- leah2 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:55:30 Oh. No, it was back when I had a naming scheme from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. 00:55:37 Colin, of course, is the security robot Ford meets and befriends (well, rewires) at the Guide headquarters in Mostly Harmless, named after the dog of a girl he used to know. 00:56:37 -!- shikhin has quit (Quit: Quittin'.). 00:56:39 -!- zgrep has quit (Quit: It's a quitter's world.). 00:58:07 -!- shikhin has joined. 00:58:10 -!- zgrep has joined. 00:59:01 -!- shikhin has changed hostmask to ~shikhin@offtopia/offtopian. 00:59:09 [[User talk:Oerjan]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87747&oldid=87732 * Oerjan * (+86) I think both of these are resolved, but I like to know when things were posted 01:01:43 (That was kind of scary.) 01:21:34 -!- leah2 has joined. 01:22:03 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87748&oldid=87746 * PixelatedStarfish * (-190) 01:29:27 By design, I think. 02:11:13 -!- Argorok has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:13:05 -!- Argorok has joined. 02:53:09 -!- Argorok has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 02:56:38 -!- Argorok has joined. 03:01:06 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87749&oldid=87748 * PixelatedStarfish * (+290) /* Commands */ 03:03:17 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87750&oldid=87749 * PixelatedStarfish * (-6) 03:04:52 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87751&oldid=87750 * PixelatedStarfish * (+100) 03:34:53 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87752&oldid=87751 * PixelatedStarfish * (+1107) /* Commands */ 03:46:34 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87753&oldid=87752 * PixelatedStarfish * (-282) /* Commands */ 03:48:13 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87754&oldid=87753 * PixelatedStarfish * (+11) /* Commands */ 04:01:25 [[InterpretMe]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87755&oldid=77524 * PixelatedStarfish * (+25) 04:08:02 [[Broken Calculator]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87756&oldid=87536 * PixelatedStarfish * (+28) /* External Links */ 04:30:27 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87757&oldid=87754 * PixelatedStarfish * (+785) 04:31:09 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87758&oldid=87757 * PixelatedStarfish * (+2) /* Grammar */ 04:31:24 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87759&oldid=87758 * PixelatedStarfish * (-2) /* Grammar */ 04:31:46 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87760&oldid=87759 * PixelatedStarfish * (-1) /* Grammar */ 04:32:52 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87761&oldid=87760 * PixelatedStarfish * (+2) /* Grammar */ 04:33:17 [[Broken Calculator]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87762&oldid=87756 * PixelatedStarfish * (+2) /* Grammar in EBNF */ 04:41:00 -!- ecs has quit (*.net *.split). 04:41:00 -!- scjosh has quit (*.net *.split). 04:41:00 -!- monoxane has quit (*.net *.split). 04:42:08 -!- monoxane has joined. 04:42:32 -!- ecs has joined. 04:45:08 -!- joast has quit (*.net *.split). 04:45:08 -!- nakilon has quit (*.net *.split). 04:45:08 -!- relrod has quit (*.net *.split). 04:45:08 -!- Corbin has quit (*.net *.split). 04:45:28 -!- relrod has joined. 04:48:03 -!- joast has joined. 04:55:46 -!- Corbin has joined. 06:02:46 [[Grue]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=87763 * PixelatedStarfish * (+976) Created page with "This language is both impossible to describe and program in. Thankfully, the associated metalanguage is not quite so esoteric. Grue is named for the creatures that consume ad..." 06:03:08 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87764&oldid=87763 * PixelatedStarfish * (-2) /* The Metalanguage */ 06:03:21 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87765&oldid=87764 * PixelatedStarfish * (+1) /* =Syntax */ 06:04:02 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87766&oldid=87765 * PixelatedStarfish * (+8) /* The Metalanguage */ 06:07:00 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87767&oldid=87766 * PixelatedStarfish * (+33) /* Syntax */ 06:26:07 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:34:54 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:22:27 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87768&oldid=87767 * PixelatedStarfish * (+664) /* Syntax */ 07:32:50 -!- chiselfuse has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:33:44 -!- chiselfuse has joined. 08:05:32 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:08:36 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 08:22:48 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 08:25:46 I have used directory names of the name of the previous systems, yes. But also plain "old" or "bkp". Some files are categorized by year numbers, most importantly my photos. I also have a few photos taken by family, those are sorted by who took them instead. 08:37:06 -!- hanif has joined. 08:39:29 last time i had a discussion on homoiconicity, i found https://users.sussex.ac.uk/~mfb21/publications/mp-slides/slides.pdf that formalised the notion a bit 08:53:19 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 09:14:54 -!- hanif has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 09:59:33 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 10:11:01 -!- sebbu has quit (Quit: reboot). 10:28:46 -!- hanif has joined. 10:30:04 -!- APic has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 10:52:30 -!- APic has joined. 12:05:23 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87769&oldid=87716 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+11) /* G */ . 12:12:14 -!- sebbu has joined. 12:17:37 [[Grue]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87770&oldid=87768 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+120) Categorize 12:31:51 -!- hanif has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 13:36:26 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:44:22 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87771&oldid=87770 * PixelatedStarfish * (-120) /* Syntax */ 14:47:33 -!- hanif has joined. 14:52:43 -!- vyv has joined. 15:03:28 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87772&oldid=87771 * PixelatedStarfish * (+59) 15:05:41 hanif: Thank you, that’s very interesting. 15:23:41 -!- Everything has joined. 15:28:04 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 15:28:28 -!- hendursaga has joined. 15:34:29 -!- impomatic_ has joined. 15:48:40 -!- vyv has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!). 15:56:07 -!- impomatic_ has quit (Quit: impomatic_). 15:56:35 -!- impomatic_ has joined. 16:00:38 -!- impomatic_ has quit (Client Quit). 16:01:04 -!- impomatic_ has joined. 16:05:22 int-e: You might enjoy https://toombler.itch.io/secure 16:10:37 -!- wib_jonas has quit (Quit: Client closed). 16:11:15 -!- imode has joined. 16:14:21 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87773&oldid=87772 * PixelatedStarfish * (+419) 16:15:06 [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * PixelatedStarfish * uploaded "[[File:Iamwhoiami.png]]" 16:16:07 -!- impomatic_ has quit (Quit: impomatic_). 16:25:15 I got confused at 7/17. 16:35:32 -!- Koen_ has joined. 16:36:54 -!- hanif has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 16:37:59 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87775&oldid=87773 * PixelatedStarfish * (+16) 16:38:30 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87776&oldid=87775 * PixelatedStarfish * (+6) 16:39:09 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87777&oldid=87776 * PixelatedStarfish * (+3) 16:40:10 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87778&oldid=87777 * PixelatedStarfish * (-60) 16:44:08 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87779&oldid=87778 * PixelatedStarfish * (+35) 16:45:00 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87780&oldid=87779 * PixelatedStarfish * (-14) 16:46:29 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87781&oldid=87780 * PixelatedStarfish * (+1) 16:47:42 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87782&oldid=87781 * PixelatedStarfish * (-3) 16:52:52 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87783&oldid=87782 * PixelatedStarfish * (+0) 17:07:01 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87784&oldid=87783 * PixelatedStarfish * (+101) 17:07:13 shachaf: hmm. anti-sokoban 17:14:53 [[Do-if]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87785&oldid=87707 * Martsadas * (+90) 17:17:09 [[User:Martsadas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87786&oldid=87155 * Martsadas * (+7) 17:19:24 [[User:Martsadas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87787&oldid=87786 * Martsadas * (+12) Do-if 17:23:22 hmmmmmm. level 13. 17:26:07 oh, never mind 17:30:28 why "anti"? 17:33:04 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:33:26 [[Special:Log/upload]] overwrite * PixelatedStarfish * uploaded a new version of "[[File:Iamwhoiami.png]]" 17:33:42 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 17:34:11 shachaf: yeah, that was cute :) 17:34:43 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87789&oldid=87784 * PixelatedStarfish * (+32) 17:35:05 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87790&oldid=87789 * PixelatedStarfish * (+3) 17:36:35 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87791&oldid=87790 * PixelatedStarfish * (-38) 17:36:47 Everything: I probably said too much already :P 17:37:28 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87792&oldid=87791 * PixelatedStarfish * (+8) /* Syntax */ 17:37:31 int-e: ah, this is a puzzle yet to be solved 17:38:07 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87793&oldid=87792 * PixelatedStarfish * (+6) /* Syntax */ 17:38:33 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87794&oldid=87793 * PixelatedStarfish * (+0) /* The Metalanguage */ 17:43:45 * Corbin wonders if PixelatedStarfish knows that grues are snakes 17:43:54 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87795&oldid=87794 * PixelatedStarfish * (+15) 17:46:05 They are? Isn't it too dark to figure that out? 17:46:46 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87796&oldid=87795 * PixelatedStarfish * (+71) 17:47:00 how do you know which level you are on? 17:49:38 It's just a bit of folklore, not an official fact. Unlike the preview button, which is both official and factual. 17:49:52 riv: esc gets you to the level selection screen 17:50:03 riv: (where the levels are numbered) 17:50:13 im stuck on 14 18:01:50 -!- hanif has joined. 18:07:52 . o O ( only slightly gimped: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/invader.png ) 18:29:26 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87797&oldid=87796 * PixelatedStarfish * (+39) /* Hello World */ 18:59:49 shachaf: wow thanks too 18:59:53 -!- arseniiv_ has changed nick to arseniiv. 19:07:55 -!- hanif has quit (Quit: quit). 19:10:43 It was fun. 15/17 took me far longer than it should've. 19:10:51 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87798&oldid=87797 * PixelatedStarfish * (+231) /* The Metalanguage */ 19:11:14 -!- chiselfuse has quit (Quit: leaving). 19:11:35 -!- chiselfuse has joined. 19:13:17 stuck on 13/17 19:13:27 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87799&oldid=87798 * PixelatedStarfish * (+87) /* The Metalanguage */ 19:13:40 i like how the witness changed game design so now "not telling the rules" is part of the challenge 19:14:14 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87800&oldid=87799 * PixelatedStarfish * (+29) /* Syntax */ 19:17:58 Heh, I already forgot what I did in 13. Oh, right, that. 19:18:05 riv: context? 19:18:17 13 seems impossible… I can’t see where one can stack three squares to stick and why there are two other squares 19:18:37 maybe as an example?.. but for what 19:18:42 arseniiv: it is possible, and I'm glad I'm not the only one to be puzzled by it 19:18:55 this is a good level then :D 19:19:41 I don't know if you want spoilers, but gurer'f n cynpr jurer lbh pna fgvpx gur guerr phorf va na y sbezngvba jurer gurl trg fghpx. 19:19:53 fizzie: 15 was a slight surprise... but a fair one, I thought 19:20:26 int-e, this sokoban game for example 19:20:30 but many other games too 19:20:42 arseniiv, 13 is possible but i cant do 14 19:20:45 Yeah, I think I got the idea what needs to be done pretty quick, but the execution took a while. 19:20:50 riv: the "the witness" reference still confuses me. 19:20:55 ah right I did it 19:21:11 int-e, in the game the witness you have to figure out the rules as you play - unlike most games you get told the rules 19:21:22 oh you mean that game. okay, fine. 19:21:31 (not a person) 19:22:09 Is there something you can do post 17/17? It says the usual "press X to continue" but when I do I just get back to 17/17, and if I press X again in it it just says "...". 19:22:20 I mean, I guess it did say "the end" already, and I'm just overthinking it. 19:22:21 I'm sure it wasn't the first game that made figuring out the rules part of the game. In a somewhat roundabout way that was the main point of Myst, for example. 19:22:39 true, 19:22:40 It's just in the level select screen it doesn't turn from "[ ]" into the wider "[ ]" either. 19:22:42 riv: will baba is you be amongst those games too? At first glance it doesn’t tell the rules straight too, but I think this is more of a formalist understanding for the case. This one tells almost nothing by contrast 19:22:51 no, baba is you is not like that in my opinion 19:22:58 the rules of the game are right there written out for you to see 19:23:10 didn’t play the witness too 19:24:23 Heh, I played too much of it, really, but stopped at some point. 19:24:25 riv: good, then our feelings probably mean something if they coincide! 19:25:38 i replayed earlier levels but it didn't help me figure out the one im stuck on 19:28:11 riv: it's actually possible to find inspiration in an earlier level, I think 19:28:14 I have played "The Wit.nes" which I think is similar to Witness but I don't know. Although, still they don't tell you what is the rule of the game 19:30:42 won't play it... but I like the main map, very reminiscent of the real thing. But there's game elements that won't be replicated... it's really quite essential that The Witness is a 3D game; it wouldn't be the same without perspective. 19:31:43 riv: in any case I bet the solution for level 14 will be obvious in retrospect. 19:32:11 [[Talk:Cythan]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87801&oldid=83354 * Cypooos * (+649) /* I don't think this is Turing complete */ 19:36:18 17 is puzzling 19:40:11 I reckon you need to close yourself in blocks? as the lone square can be moved otherwise… 19:46:20 this seems unattainable as you’d seemingly need to pull blocks which is impossible 20:00:58 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87802&oldid=87800 * PixelatedStarfish * (-70) 20:06:27 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87803&oldid=87802 * PixelatedStarfish * (+6) /* Syntax */ 20:07:17 finally! good game 20:08:41 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87804&oldid=87803 * PixelatedStarfish * (+2) /* The Metalanguage */ 20:10:03 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87805&oldid=87804 * PixelatedStarfish * (+67) /* Syntax */ 20:13:15 arseniiv: I wonder what a challenge could be for the final level... this position maybe? https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/osecure.png 20:24:44 int-e: yeah I don’t easily see how to end up with this one 20:25:41 mine had just one diagonal axis of symmetry 20:26:51 and it in a sense solved itself out when I found you can just make four 3 × 1 walls, I didn’t see a clear path how to build them step by step 20:26:59 oops 20:27:08 I spoiled it all out 20:27:24 didn’t think about it at all 20:30:38 -!- Koen__ has joined. 20:32:58 -!- Koen_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 20:40:05 fizzie: Me too! On 15/17, I mean. 20:48:31 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 20:49:28 -!- Koen__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:49:55 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:51:07 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 20:56:32 -!- Koen_ has joined. 20:56:32 -!- Koen_ has quit (Client Quit). 21:31:31 [[User:PixelatedStarfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87806&oldid=87715 * PixelatedStarfish * (+13) /* Esolangs */ 21:31:32 [[Colon]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=87807 * Hyperdawg * (+19) Created page with "GD Colon is a furry" 21:52:41 [[Talk:Cythan]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87808&oldid=87801 * Int-e * (+762) /* I don't think this is Turing complete */ 22:00:43 [[Talk:Cythan]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87809&oldid=87808 * Int-e * (+74) finish sentence 22:14:52 -!- Everything has quit (Quit: leaving). 22:27:45 Although games without mentioning the rules can be good, and other variants, I mainly like the puzzle game where you can see all of the rules and all of the game state (this is why I added the inspection menu into Free Hero Mesh) and then you can try to figure out from that. Sam Shemitz had made puzzles with hidden objects as well as unusual consequences of the rules; my own puzzles use the latter but not the former. 22:31:35 -!- vyv has joined. 22:50:24 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Colon]]": offtopic: this page doesn't seem to be esolang-related 22:54:16 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:59:53 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87810&oldid=87805 * PixelatedStarfish * (+92) /* Meta-program Examples */ 23:04:35 -!- src has joined. 23:06:01 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87811&oldid=87810 * PixelatedStarfish * (-6) /* Meta-program Examples */ 23:06:56 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87812&oldid=87811 * PixelatedStarfish * (+4) /* File Name Generator */ 23:08:08 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87813&oldid=87812 * PixelatedStarfish * (-7) /* File Name Generator */ 23:10:04 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87814&oldid=87813 * PixelatedStarfish * (-10) /* File Name Generator */ 23:14:06 [[Grue]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87815&oldid=87814 * PixelatedStarfish * (+40) /* Meta-program Examples */ 23:18:58 [[User:PixelatedStarfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87816&oldid=87806 * PixelatedStarfish * (+96) /* Implemented Languages */ 23:19:21 [[User:PixelatedStarfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87817&oldid=87816 * PixelatedStarfish * (+1) /* Grue */ 23:23:35 [[Vessel]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87818&oldid=87761 * PixelatedStarfish * (+4) /* Commands */ 23:23:41 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87819&oldid=87734 * Ais523 * (-111560) clear down to 1 month's worth of introductions, to help prevent this page growing too large (former introductions are still available in the page history) 23:34:55 [[Grue]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87820&oldid=87815 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+27) /* File Name Generator */ cat 23:36:32 [[Grue]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=87821&oldid=87820 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+39) /* File Name Generator */ other cat