00:21:09 <esolangs> [[Unary]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88225&oldid=86616 * Fmbalbuena * (-1) small bug fixed
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02:39:26 <esolangs> [[Deutsch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88227&oldid=79682 * Iamn00b * (+10)
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03:21:46 <zzo38> I think the file name of the latest Magic: the Gathering rules has made a mistake (although the file name still works)
04:26:05 <esolangs> [[LCCBED]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88228&oldid=88226 * Iamn00b * (-6)
04:28:30 <esolangs> [[LCCBED]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88229&oldid=88228 * Iamn00b * (+4) /* Truth machine (thanks, Keymaker!) */
04:30:57 <esolangs> [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88230&oldid=88120 * Iamn00b * (-12) /* LCCBED */
06:33:47 <esolangs> [[Pxem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88231&oldid=83865 * Iamn00b * (+11) /* Echo (or cat program in exact) */
06:35:07 <esolangs> [[Pxem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88232&oldid=88231 * Iamn00b * (+33) /* Examples */
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08:25:42 <zzo38> Another idea of Magic: the Gathering card: Target spell's owner copies that spell, and then the original spell is countered.
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09:22:09 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * PoetLuchnik * New user account
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10:06:10 <int-e> restartable interrupt, eh
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13:05:14 <esolangs> [[Baba Is You]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88233&oldid=83993 * SunnyMoon * (+72) These are not verbs! Rather adjectives, or in Baba jargon, properties.
13:08:30 <esolangs> [[Baba Is You]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88234&oldid=88233 * SunnyMoon * (+73) There is no point trying to fit the entire Baba dictionary, which is HUGE, on one page.
13:09:12 <esolangs> [[Baba Is You]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88235&oldid=88234 * SunnyMoon * (+0) Oh wait, wait, wait...
13:35:28 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88236&oldid=88220 * PoetLuchnik * (+111)
13:36:10 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88237&oldid=88236 * PoetLuchnik * (-5)
13:36:57 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88238&oldid=88237 * PoetLuchnik * (+188)
13:37:47 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88239&oldid=88238 * PoetLuchnik * (-138)
13:39:24 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88240&oldid=88239 * PoetLuchnik * (+51)
13:40:00 <HackEso> olist <https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1244.html>: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
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13:42:01 <esolangs> [[BracketsLang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=88241 * PoetLuchnik * (+1923) create BracketsLang page
13:44:12 <int-e> Ugh, that SunnyMoon edit...
13:44:29 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88242&oldid=88206 * PoetLuchnik * (+19) append BracketsLang to the list (B character)
13:47:54 <b_jonas> ah no, sorry, that one isn't new
13:47:59 <HackEso> unolist? No such file or directory
13:50:07 <int-e> Oh. The edit is fine, I misunderstood the format of those headers.
13:52:09 <esolangs> [[BracketsLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88243&oldid=88241 * PoetLuchnik * (+146) append categories
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14:01:19 <esolangs> [[Baba Is You]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88244&oldid=88235 * Int-e * (-28) more consistent terminology
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15:04:26 <esolangs> [[JSFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88245&oldid=43901 * Icecream17 * (-6) flat is shorter in bf. fix typo
15:20:30 <esolangs> [[Talk:Zirconium]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88246&oldid=81905 * Strohtaler * (+304)
15:21:32 <esolangs> [[Talk:Zirconium]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88247&oldid=88246 * Strohtaler * (+19)
15:23:08 <esolangs> [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88248&oldid=88247 * Strohtaler * (-2)
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15:54:40 <esolangs> [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88250&oldid=88249 * Strohtaler * (-18)
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18:14:10 <esolangs> [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88252&oldid=88251 * AceKiron * (+861)
18:15:38 <esolangs> [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88253&oldid=88252 * AceKiron * (+165) /* Matrix operants */
18:16:02 <esolangs> [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88254&oldid=88253 * AceKiron * (+104) /* Datatypes */
18:22:11 <esolangs> [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88255&oldid=88254 * AceKiron * (+236) /* Datatypes */
18:22:18 <esolangs> [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88256&oldid=88255 * AceKiron * (+0) /* Datatypes */
18:22:54 <esolangs> [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88257&oldid=88256 * AceKiron * (-398) /* Datatypes */
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18:34:03 <esolangs> [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88258&oldid=88219 * BlueOkiris * (+41) /* Description */
18:34:48 <esolangs> [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88259&oldid=88258 * BlueOkiris * (+87) /* Description */
18:35:40 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88260&oldid=88242 * BlueOkiris * (+11) /* N */
18:38:06 <esolangs> [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88261&oldid=88259 * BlueOkiris * (-7) /* Hello World: */
18:38:41 <esolangs> [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88262&oldid=88261 * BlueOkiris * (-28) /* Truth Machine: */
18:39:33 <esolangs> [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88263&oldid=88262 * BlueOkiris * (-28) /* Instructions */
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19:34:22 <b_jonas> nakilon: it's because the [] zeroes the current cell then the + adds one to it so it ends up as 1 which is true
19:35:03 <nakilon> I mean it's JS, not BF ..D
19:35:16 <nakilon> what does you mean zeroes the cell?
19:36:22 <b_jonas> ] only exits when the cell is zero\
19:36:42 <b_jonas> so yeah, it more like ensures that the cell is zero
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20:25:42 <fizzie> Why is it always a hemisphere, a semiconductor and a demilich, but never, say, a demisphere, a hemiconductor or a semilich? Who gets to decide these things?
20:27:28 <nakilon> Harry Potter was полукровка
20:28:03 <nakilon> it reminds me the ir-/il-/in- but IIRC there was some algorithm
20:28:04 <fizzie> It's also all "puoli-" in Finnish, which I imagine must be from the same source.
20:28:23 <fizzie> (Well, I don't know if there's an official Finnish word for a demilich.)
20:28:39 <nakilon> how is "половина" ("half") in Finnish?
20:29:03 <fizzie> "puolikas", I would say.
20:30:18 <zzo38> I don't know why is like that in English, but I think those words may be from other language instead of English, I don't know what the conventions are for such word, or if they will be difference English (sometimes the combinations was made up to use English even if the original word wasn't, though)
20:30:25 <nakilon> though weird but I can never google anything what we were taught about English in the university
20:31:59 <nakilon> (oh the "algorithm" was just to double the letter I suppose)
20:32:11 <b_jonas> fizzie: isn't "demilich" a red herring though, because it's not half a lich, just as a hematologist isn't half a tologist, and semantics isn't half an antics
20:32:13 <nakilon> but why ir as a default...
20:33:30 <fizzie> b_jonas: I know it's not a "lesser lich", but I thought the name still had to do with the "half" meaning of the prefix, as in, there's less of the lich left in physical terms. But you can substitute in demigod if you prefer.
20:33:46 <fizzie> That one's "puolijumala" in Finnish.
20:34:43 <zzo38> Some word may look like similar even though it isn't, and also other way around too
20:35:00 <b_jonas> fizzie: yes, a demigod is a better example
20:35:15 <nakilon> oh fizzie already said that
20:36:16 <b_jonas> a hematologist, a dermatologist, and a semitologist walk into a bar...
20:38:13 <nakilon> there should be some compressor-friendly version of English
20:38:23 <nakilon> where all three words use the same prefix
20:39:49 <b_jonas> or a semirai with a full length sword and a half sword
20:43:06 <b_jonas> do demographers draw demons, or are they half a grapher?
20:44:08 <b_jonas> fungot, what does a demographer do? is it like a seismograph but for demons?
20:46:37 <fizzie> Hmm. Off-topic, but do you happen to know if a DVI-D to HDMI cable can do 2560x1440 @ 60Hz? I feel like probably not, because the DVI end of the cable just has single link pins, and I know single-link regular DVI maxes out at 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz or 2560x1200 @ 30 Hz. But then again, regular HDMI 1.3 had that clock speed bump that can make its single link go that far.
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20:48:18 <b_jonas> I've used a DVI to HDMI converter, but not with such high resolution.
20:53:07 <b_jonas> wait, you can have a hemisphere and a semicircle, right? do we know which prefix to use for a sphere in any number of dimensions? it's probably odd versus even, that's how some formulas about high dimensional spheres work
20:53:37 <keegan> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hemisemidemiquaver
20:55:46 <b_jonas> I'm reminded of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_of_an_n-ball
20:58:26 <riv> looking at that graph
20:59:03 <riv> I feel like in the 7d universe the beings are all like "Well the universe simply has to be 7D because that's the number that maximizes the volume of a sphere)
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20:59:25 <riv> i misread the graph, s/7/5/g
21:00:01 <skidz``> where is the channel for regular esoterics (humbug)?
21:01:52 <fizzie> I believe EFnet #esoteric is one such.
21:02:38 <HackEso> skidz``: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <https://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
21:03:02 <b_jonas> fizzie: were you the one who recently tried to check if that welcome message is still appropriate?
21:03:21 <b_jonas> and if it's not, will we have to do a second set of updates in ten languages, like we did with the https url?
21:03:26 <fizzie> Well, insofar as having a look at the netsplit.de stats on various #esoteric channels.
21:03:44 <fizzie> I think the DALnet one might be effectively dead now, but I don't know if it's worth updating.
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21:04:43 <fizzie> And in any case it has EFnet first, which as far as I can determine without actually joining might be the leading non-programming esoterica #esoteric, bridged with its IRCnet and UnderNet iterations.
21:06:05 <riv> https://mathoverflow.net/questions/8258/whats-a-nice-argument-that-shows-the-volume-of-the-unit-ball-in-mathbb-rn-a
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21:13:04 <b_jonas> ``` \? welcome.tr # this one appears to only mention Dalnet, and seems to have no command in bin associated. I'm trying to see around https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2013-10-27.html#lrj how we even acquired a Turkish version.
21:13:06 <HackEso> Ezoterik programlama dili tasarım ve dağıtım için uluslararası merkezi hoş geldiniz! <https://esolangs.org/>: Daha fazla bilgi için, bizim wiki göz atın. (Esoterica diğer tür için, irc.dal.net üzerinde #esoteric deneyin.)
21:17:04 <b_jonas> riv: isn't it seven-dimensional because seven is the smallest dimension of an exotic sphere?
21:18:09 <riv> well i misread the graph, 7 is for surface area
21:18:16 <riv> and that does seem like a funny coincidence
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22:27:44 <esolangs> [[5D Brainfuck With Multiverse Time Travel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88264&oldid=81701 * OliveIsAWord * (-12) changed wikipedia hyperlink
23:13:07 <oerjan> the abusefilter test page seems to have broken
23:14:56 <oerjan> i am trying to change filter 7 so it doesn't catch file uploads (which seem to be a good fraction of its hits)
23:15:35 <oerjan> i hope i've done it right but the test page is broken.
23:15:54 <oerjan> (it seems to break on other filters too, so probably not my fault)
23:16:43 <fizzie> `Fatal exception of type "TypeError"` hmm.
23:16:44 <HackEso> Fatal? No such file or directory
23:16:50 <fizzie> HackEso: Don't you start now.
23:20:00 <oerjan> hm something strange in the filter history
23:23:16 <oerjan> hm i think the extension just added a new option for messaging
23:23:38 <fizzie> I sneaked a peek at the stack trace of the error, and it says https://0x0.st/-YXC.txt which I don't much understand.
23:23:54 <fizzie> "Argument 2 -- must be an instance of PermissionManager, instance of MediaWiki\Permissions\PermissionManager given".
23:27:23 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88265&oldid=88021 * Oerjan * (+13) Testing that my filter change didn't break anything important
23:27:35 <fizzie> I think that is something that was fixed by https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-AbuseFilter/commit/2dd1a4c
23:27:48 <fizzie> So it'll probably get fixed next time I do a MediaWiki upgrade.
23:28:02 <fizzie> Maybe I'll try to get one in this weekend or something, it's been a while.
23:28:06 <oerjan> well, i haven't completely broken the wiki, so all is good :P
23:30:29 <oerjan> <b_jonas> ah no, sorry, that one isn't new <-- NOOO
23:40:42 <oerjan> <nakilon> IIRC the default was ir- <-- if you're talking about what i think, it's from the preposition in, so in- ought to be the default. also im- sometimes happens in addition to the ones you listed.
23:41:07 <oerjan> the others are just assimilation to following consonant
23:46:02 <oerjan> oh also that applies to when the prefix is latin. if it's a _germanic_ in-, it may not assimilate, e.g. "input"
23:46:45 <oerjan> oh and i'm confusing myself, that's not just the preposition in, but also the negation particle, which has the same form in latin.
23:47:12 <oerjan> (and is presumably cognate to germanic english un-)
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