00:21:09 [[Unary]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88225&oldid=86616 * Fmbalbuena * (-1) small bug fixed 00:31:28 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:51:17 -!- dutch has joined. 01:58:47 [[LCCBED]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88226&oldid=88162 * Iamn00b * (+4) 02:29:12 -!- brettgilio has joined. 02:37:29 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 02:39:26 [[Deutsch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88227&oldid=79682 * Iamn00b * (+10) 02:47:52 -!- Everything has quit (Quit: leaving). 03:21:46 I think the file name of the latest Magic: the Gathering rules has made a mistake (although the file name still works) 04:26:05 [[LCCBED]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88228&oldid=88226 * Iamn00b * (-6) 04:28:30 [[LCCBED]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88229&oldid=88228 * Iamn00b * (+4) /* Truth machine (thanks, Keymaker!) */ 04:30:57 [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88230&oldid=88120 * Iamn00b * (-12) /* LCCBED */ 06:33:47 [[Pxem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88231&oldid=83865 * Iamn00b * (+11) /* Echo (or cat program in exact) */ 06:35:07 [[Pxem]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88232&oldid=88231 * Iamn00b * (+33) /* Examples */ 07:13:34 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:01:09 -!- Koen has joined. 08:05:40 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:08:27 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 08:25:42 Another idea of Magic: the Gathering card: Target spell's owner copies that spell, and then the original spell is countered. 08:53:33 -!- riv has quit (Quit: Leaving). 08:54:34 -!- riv has joined. 09:22:09 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * PoetLuchnik * New user account 09:45:24 -!- riv has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:46:35 -!- Koen has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 09:46:58 -!- riv has joined. 10:06:10 restartable interrupt, eh 11:38:52 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 11:40:22 -!- tech_exorcist has joined. 13:03:03 -!- hanif has joined. 13:05:14 [[Baba Is You]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88233&oldid=83993 * SunnyMoon * (+72) These are not verbs! Rather adjectives, or in Baba jargon, properties. 13:08:30 [[Baba Is You]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88234&oldid=88233 * SunnyMoon * (+73) There is no point trying to fit the entire Baba dictionary, which is HUGE, on one page. 13:09:12 [[Baba Is You]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88235&oldid=88234 * SunnyMoon * (+0) Oh wait, wait, wait... 13:35:28 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88236&oldid=88220 * PoetLuchnik * (+111) 13:36:10 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88237&oldid=88236 * PoetLuchnik * (-5) 13:36:57 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88238&oldid=88237 * PoetLuchnik * (+188) 13:37:47 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88239&oldid=88238 * PoetLuchnik * (-138) 13:39:24 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88240&oldid=88239 * PoetLuchnik * (+51) 13:39:57 `olist 1244 13:40:00 olist : shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas 13:40:27 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 13:40:56 -!- hendursaga has joined. 13:42:01 [[BracketsLang]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=88241 * PoetLuchnik * (+1923) create BracketsLang page 13:44:12 Ugh, that SunnyMoon edit... 13:44:29 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88242&oldid=88206 * PoetLuchnik * (+19) append BracketsLang to the list (B character) 13:47:54 ah no, sorry, that one isn't new 13:47:56 darn 13:47:59 `unolist 13:47:59 unolist? No such file or directory 13:50:07 Oh. The edit is fine, I misunderstood the format of those headers. 13:52:09 [[BracketsLang]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88243&oldid=88241 * PoetLuchnik * (+146) append categories 13:52:57 -!- hanif has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 13:54:15 -!- tech_exorcist has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:54:42 -!- tech_exorcist has joined. 13:57:07 -!- dutch has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3). 14:01:19 [[Baba Is You]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88244&oldid=88235 * Int-e * (-28) more consistent terminology 14:02:53 -!- dutch has joined. 14:10:36 -!- Everything has joined. 14:25:27 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:04:26 [[JSFuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88245&oldid=43901 * Icecream17 * (-6) flat is shorter in bf. fix typo 15:20:30 [[Talk:Zirconium]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88246&oldid=81905 * Strohtaler * (+304) 15:21:32 [[Talk:Zirconium]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88247&oldid=88246 * Strohtaler * (+19) 15:23:08 [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88248&oldid=88247 * Strohtaler * (-2) 15:24:08 -!- hanif has joined. 15:26:07 [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88249&oldid=88248 * Strohtaler * (+17) 15:37:03 -!- Thelie has joined. 15:45:37 -!- dutch has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3). 15:47:22 -!- dutch has joined. 15:54:40 [[Talk:Zirconium]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88250&oldid=88249 * Strohtaler * (-18) 16:02:09 -!- xylochoron[m] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:02:09 -!- phdu has quit (Write error: Connection reset by peer). 16:02:10 -!- craigo[m] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:02:11 -!- Deewiant has quit (Write error: Connection reset by peer). 16:02:12 -!- jryans has quit (Write error: Connection reset by peer). 16:04:05 -!- xylochoron[m] has joined. 16:09:02 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 16:09:05 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 16:10:45 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 16:12:16 -!- hendursaga has joined. 16:14:18 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 16:15:12 -!- jryans has joined. 16:15:12 -!- Deewiant has joined. 16:15:12 -!- phdu has joined. 16:15:12 -!- craigo[m] has joined. 17:05:19 -!- Thelie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:12:02 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:33:07 -!- hanif has quit (Quit: quit). 17:36:52 -!- tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you tomorrow). 17:52:36 -!- dyeplexer has joined. 17:56:30 [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88251&oldid=88020 * AceKiron * (+280) 18:14:10 [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88252&oldid=88251 * AceKiron * (+861) 18:15:38 [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88253&oldid=88252 * AceKiron * (+165) /* Matrix operants */ 18:16:02 [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88254&oldid=88253 * AceKiron * (+104) /* Datatypes */ 18:22:11 [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88255&oldid=88254 * AceKiron * (+236) /* Datatypes */ 18:22:18 [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88256&oldid=88255 * AceKiron * (+0) /* Datatypes */ 18:22:54 [[School]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88257&oldid=88256 * AceKiron * (-398) /* Datatypes */ 18:24:05 -!- dyeplexer has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:34:03 [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88258&oldid=88219 * BlueOkiris * (+41) /* Description */ 18:34:48 [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88259&oldid=88258 * BlueOkiris * (+87) /* Description */ 18:35:40 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88260&oldid=88242 * BlueOkiris * (+11) /* N */ 18:38:06 [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88261&oldid=88259 * BlueOkiris * (-7) /* Hello World: */ 18:38:41 [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88262&oldid=88261 * BlueOkiris * (-28) /* Truth Machine: */ 18:39:33 [[Nabd]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88263&oldid=88262 * BlueOkiris * (-28) /* Instructions */ 18:45:41 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 18:46:48 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 19:07:28 -!- delta23 has joined. 19:09:05 -!- imode has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1). 19:10:35 -!- sprock has joined. 19:13:05 -!- Thelie has joined. 19:21:46 why is !+[] true in JS? 19:22:31 oh, because +[] is 0 _<> 19:22:56 -!- imode has joined. 19:25:33 -!- Everything has left. 19:34:22 nakilon: it's because the [] zeroes the current cell then the + adds one to it so it ends up as 1 which is true 19:35:03 I mean it's JS, not BF ..D 19:35:16 what does you mean zeroes the cell? 19:36:22 ] only exits when the cell is zero\ 19:36:42 so yeah, it more like ensures that the cell is zero 19:36:46 rather than zeroes it 19:50:59 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:25:42 Why is it always a hemisphere, a semiconductor and a demilich, but never, say, a demisphere, a hemiconductor or a semilich? Who gets to decide these things? 20:27:06 it's all полу- in Russian 20:27:17 полушарие, полупроводник 20:27:28 Harry Potter was полукровка 20:28:03 it reminds me the ir-/il-/in- but IIRC there was some algorithm 20:28:04 It's also all "puoli-" in Finnish, which I imagine must be from the same source. 20:28:23 (Well, I don't know if there's an official Finnish word for a demilich.) 20:28:39 how is "половина" ("half") in Finnish? 20:28:50 *a half 20:29:03 "puolikas", I would say. 20:29:56 IIRC the default was ir- 20:30:18 I don't know why is like that in English, but I think those words may be from other language instead of English, I don't know what the conventions are for such word, or if they will be difference English (sometimes the combinations was made up to use English even if the original word wasn't, though) 20:30:25 though weird but I can never google anything what we were taught about English in the university 20:31:59 (oh the "algorithm" was just to double the letter I suppose) 20:32:11 fizzie: isn't "demilich" a red herring though, because it's not half a lich, just as a hematologist isn't half a tologist, and semantics isn't half an antics 20:32:13 but why ir as a default... 20:32:47 hema is blood 20:33:30 b_jonas: I know it's not a "lesser lich", but I thought the name still had to do with the "half" meaning of the prefix, as in, there's less of the lich left in physical terms. But you can substitute in demigod if you prefer. 20:33:46 That one's "puolijumala" in Finnish. 20:34:43 Some word may look like similar even though it isn't, and also other way around too 20:34:52 demigod 20:35:00 fizzie: yes, a demigod is a better example 20:35:15 oh fizzie already said that 20:36:16 a hematologist, a dermatologist, and a semitologist walk into a bar... 20:37:00 sintologist? 20:38:13 there should be some compressor-friendly version of English 20:38:14 no, a semiotist 20:38:23 where all three words use the same prefix 20:39:49 or a semirai with a full length sword and a half sword 20:43:06 do demographers draw demons, or are they half a grapher? 20:44:08 fungot, what does a demographer do? is it like a seismograph but for demons? 20:46:37 Hmm. Off-topic, but do you happen to know if a DVI-D to HDMI cable can do 2560x1440 @ 60Hz? I feel like probably not, because the DVI end of the cable just has single link pins, and I know single-link regular DVI maxes out at 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz or 2560x1200 @ 30 Hz. But then again, regular HDMI 1.3 had that clock speed bump that can make its single link go that far. 20:47:55 -!- Thelie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:48:18 I've used a DVI to HDMI converter, but not with such high resolution. 20:53:07 wait, you can have a hemisphere and a semicircle, right? do we know which prefix to use for a sphere in any number of dimensions? it's probably odd versus even, that's how some formulas about high dimensional spheres work 20:53:37 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hemisemidemiquaver 20:55:46 I'm reminded of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_of_an_n-ball 20:57:45 tasty! 20:58:26 looking at that graph 20:59:03 I feel like in the 7d universe the beings are all like "Well the universe simply has to be 7D because that's the number that maximizes the volume of a sphere) 20:59:09 -!- skidz`` has joined. 20:59:25 i misread the graph, s/7/5/g 20:59:37 good day fine sirs. 21:00:01 where is the channel for regular esoterics (humbug)? 21:01:52 I believe EFnet #esoteric is one such. 21:02:35 `welcome skidz`` 21:02:38 skidz``: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.) 21:03:02 fizzie: were you the one who recently tried to check if that welcome message is still appropriate? 21:03:21 and if it's not, will we have to do a second set of updates in ten languages, like we did with the https url? 21:03:26 Well, insofar as having a look at the netsplit.de stats on various #esoteric channels. 21:03:44 I think the DALnet one might be effectively dead now, but I don't know if it's worth updating. 21:04:14 fizzie: thanks! :)= 21:04:18 -!- skidz`` has left. 21:04:43 And in any case it has EFnet first, which as far as I can determine without actually joining might be the leading non-programming esoterica #esoteric, bridged with its IRCnet and UnderNet iterations. 21:06:05 https://mathoverflow.net/questions/8258/whats-a-nice-argument-that-shows-the-volume-of-the-unit-ball-in-mathbb-rn-a 21:08:56 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 21:09:50 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:10:16 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 21:13:04 ``` \? welcome.tr # this one appears to only mention Dalnet, and seems to have no command in bin associated. I'm trying to see around https://logs.esolangs.org/freenode-esoteric/2013-10-27.html#lrj how we even acquired a Turkish version. 21:13:06 Ezoterik programlama dili tasarım ve dağıtım için uluslararası merkezi hoş geldiniz! : Daha fazla bilgi için, bizim wiki göz atın. (Esoterica diğer tür için, irc.dal.net üzerinde #esoteric deneyin.) 21:17:04 riv: isn't it seven-dimensional because seven is the smallest dimension of an exotic sphere? 21:18:02 :O 21:18:09 well i misread the graph, 7 is for surface area 21:18:16 and that does seem like a funny coincidence 21:29:36 -!- Oshawott has joined. 21:33:05 -!- archenoth has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 22:10:58 -!- oerjan has joined. 22:13:19 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:27:44 [[5D Brainfuck With Multiverse Time Travel]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88264&oldid=81701 * OliveIsAWord * (-12) changed wikipedia hyperlink 23:07:39 argh 23:13:07 the abusefilter test page seems to have broken 23:14:27 fizzie: ais523: 23:14:56 i am trying to change filter 7 so it doesn't catch file uploads (which seem to be a good fraction of its hits) 23:15:35 i hope i've done it right but the test page is broken. 23:15:54 (it seems to break on other filters too, so probably not my fault) 23:16:43 `Fatal exception of type "TypeError"` hmm. 23:16:44 Fatal? No such file or directory 23:16:50 HackEso: Don't you start now. 23:20:00 hm something strange in the filter history 23:23:16 hm i think the extension just added a new option for messaging 23:23:38 I sneaked a peek at the stack trace of the error, and it says https://0x0.st/-YXC.txt which I don't much understand. 23:23:54 "Argument 2 -- must be an instance of PermissionManager, instance of MediaWiki\Permissions\PermissionManager given". 23:27:23 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88265&oldid=88021 * Oerjan * (+13) Testing that my filter change didn't break anything important 23:27:35 I think that is something that was fixed by https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-AbuseFilter/commit/2dd1a4c 23:27:48 So it'll probably get fixed next time I do a MediaWiki upgrade. 23:27:52 ic 23:28:02 Maybe I'll try to get one in this weekend or something, it's been a while. 23:28:06 well, i haven't completely broken the wiki, so all is good :P 23:30:29 ah no, sorry, that one isn't new <-- NOOO 23:40:42 IIRC the default was ir- <-- if you're talking about what i think, it's from the preposition in, so in- ought to be the default. also im- sometimes happens in addition to the ones you listed. 23:41:07 the others are just assimilation to following consonant 23:46:02 oh also that applies to when the prefix is latin. if it's a _germanic_ in-, it may not assimilate, e.g. "input" 23:46:45 oh and i'm confusing myself, that's not just the preposition in, but also the negation particle, which has the same form in latin. 23:47:12 (and is presumably cognate to germanic english un-) 23:54:33 -!- sprock has joined.