00:10:34 [[Ecstatic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88672&oldid=79668 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+4520) Supplemented a few notes regarding the encoding process, rectified incorrect tallies in the example, and added a Common Lisp implementation of the conversion routines. 00:12:09 heh https://i.imgur.com/jALW0h6.mp4 01:13:24 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 01:14:55 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:24:02 -!- hendursaga has joined. 01:42:34 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Rudolph4268 * New user account 01:47:03 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88673&oldid=88651 * Rudolph4268 * (+296) Introduced myself. 'nuff said :) 01:49:25 -!- andydude has joined. 01:57:38 [[User:Rudolph4268]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=88674 * Rudolph4268 * (+78) Created my user page 01:59:34 [[User:Rudolph4268]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88675&oldid=88674 * Rudolph4268 * (+38) edit 1 02:03:27 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:04:00 -!- andydude has quit (Quit: andydude). 02:05:13 -!- hendursaga has joined. 02:18:43 [[Sona]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88676&oldid=88113 * 0utdacious * (+95) Noted turing completeness 02:36:22 [[Astridec]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88677&oldid=88670 * PixelatedStarfish * (+210) 02:37:07 [[Astridec]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88678&oldid=88677 * PixelatedStarfish * (+4) /* Truth Machine */ 02:38:06 [[Truth-machine]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88679&oldid=88632 * PixelatedStarfish * (+265) /* Assembly language */ 02:40:46 [[Astridec]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88680&oldid=88678 * PixelatedStarfish * (+19) /* Program Examples */ 02:41:12 [[EXDotSF]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=88681 * Rudolph4268 * (+1216) Initial creation 02:41:54 [[Astridec]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88682&oldid=88680 * PixelatedStarfish * (-2) /* Hello World */ 03:04:50 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88683&oldid=88681 * Rudolph4268 * (+996) /* Added and changed commands/syntax */ 03:06:30 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 03:07:01 -!- monoxane7 has joined. 03:12:22 -!- hendursaga has joined. 03:12:52 -!- monoxane7 has quit (Quit: estoy fuera). 03:31:46 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88684&oldid=88683 * Rudolph4268 * (+876) 03:47:40 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88685&oldid=88684 * Rudolph4268 * (+398) Getting closer to v1.0 of this article! 03:51:50 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88686&oldid=88685 * Rudolph4268 * (+183) Almost done! 03:54:24 -!- monoxane7 has joined. 03:57:10 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88687&oldid=88686 * Rudolph4268 * (+384) This should be good for now 03:58:26 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88688&oldid=88687 * Rudolph4268 * (+2) /* Building EXDotSF for your platform */ 03:58:54 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88689&oldid=88688 * Rudolph4268 * (+2) /* Running EXDotSF programs */ 04:01:21 -!- Corbin has joined. 04:01:45 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:04:00 -!- hendursaga has joined. 04:06:26 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88690&oldid=88689 * Rudolph4268 * (+39) /* Example programs utilizing EXDotSF's new features */ 04:11:10 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:11:13 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88691&oldid=88690 * Rudolph4268 * (-6) /* Building EXDotSF for your platform */ 04:13:49 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88692&oldid=88691 * Rudolph4268 * (+4) 04:16:11 [[Talk:EXDotSF]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=88693 * Rudolph4268 * (+39) Create talk page for EXDotSF 04:16:42 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:18:57 -!- hendursaga has joined. 04:19:13 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88694&oldid=88692 * Rudolph4268 * (+31) 04:28:29 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88695&oldid=88694 * Rudolph4268 * (+8) /* Running an EXDotSF program */ 04:28:51 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88696&oldid=88695 * Rudolph4268 * (+15) /* Running an EXDotSF program */ 04:32:00 -!- monoxane has quit (Quit: estoy fuera). 04:32:10 -!- monoxane7 has changed nick to monoxane. 04:40:06 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88697&oldid=88696 * Rudolph4268 * (-5) Changed External Links back to Source code 05:07:35 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88698&oldid=88697 * Rudolph4268 * (-667) Moving the Building and Running sections to the GitHub repo's README 05:07:56 [[EXDotSF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88699&oldid=88698 * Rudolph4268 * (+1) /* Source code */ 05:24:44 -!- dutch has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3). 05:30:39 https://i.imgur.com/ZrzCDt7.png Finally, a recognizeable Mandelbrot! 05:31:13 -!- dutch has joined. 05:58:23 [[User talk:Rudolph4268]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=88700 * Rudolph4268 * (+9) Created page with "Dead air." 06:26:45 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88701&oldid=88699 * Rudolph4268 * (+103) Added a "Hello world!" example 07:34:05 -!- Thelie has joined. 08:05:12 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:08:45 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 08:13:36 [[EXDotSF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88702&oldid=88701 * OliveIsAWord * (+4) added link to DotSF 08:22:03 -!- Thelie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:26:57 -!- Koen has joined. 08:31:02 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 08:38:43 -!- river has joined. 09:02:37 [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88703&oldid=88087 * Keymaker * (+157) /* Hardware implementations */ 09:12:21 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:22:30 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88704&oldid=88702 * Rudolph4268 * (+436) Added 2 new sections about planned new features that have yet to be worked on and ones that are currently being implemented 09:24:29 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:25:17 [[EXDotSF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88705&oldid=88704 * Rudolph4268 * (+119) /* Planned new features that are currently being worked on and implemented */ 09:25:30 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 09:30:06 -!- mich181189 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:35:00 -!- mich181189 has joined. 09:41:20 https://i.imgur.com/juTWsxM.mp4 10:16:35 25 vertices - up to 1s, 50 - 5s, 75 - 10s, 100 - 20s... so I assume with 200 vertices it will run 5 minutes, 300 - more than an hour, 400 - a day... meh, I wanted to find a run on 1000... 10:20:16 but as a byproduct I'm again thinking about making the intermediate file format for Vips; because here it's 10 times longer when I'm rendering the images; partly because every frame is being drawn from blank; instead of trying to optimize it by using intermediate frames one could use some intermediate file format that would describe the sequences 10:20:16 of vips operations and then you can optimize or even adjust them for different visualisation results 10:21:51 and of course to separate the steps of calculation and rendering 10:35:55 -!- mich181189 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 10:37:55 -!- mich181189 has joined. 10:57:11 -!- river has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:19:51 -!- chiselfuse has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 11:21:00 -!- chiselfuse has joined. 11:28:39 is there any theorem on the pairs that will be definitely joined in the shortest path? 11:28:56 maybe the mutually closest vertices? 11:34:55 oh the vertex can have multiple closest neighbors 12:27:41 -!- Koen_ has joined. 12:29:13 -!- Koen has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 12:51:46 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 13:11:07 If this is still about Hamiltonian paths, and mutually closest just means the lowest-distance edge in the graph, pretty sure that edge isn't always in the shortest path. For example in something like https://zem.fi/tmp/graph.png I don't think the unique edge A→B with weight 1 can possibly be on any valid Hamiltonian path. 13:11:54 (If you have a fully connected graph, just imagine all the other distances are > 8.) 13:20:18 but what if it's in metric space? 13:20:29 i.e. it can't have all other distances > 8 13:22:30 the shortest path on graph like yours will be top-A-B-side-bottom 13:25:06 oh wait, no, purple seems looks shorter 13:25:46 if you turn bottom one a bit to the left 13:27:07 ok 13:33:57 -!- arseniiv has joined. 13:40:53 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:53:46 -!- joast has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 13:59:46 I'll try my current solution on your test 14:04:16 heh https://i.imgur.com/VZSUcxB.png 14:06:51 hm neither of other ideas I imagine solve this case correctly 14:07:13 except the one that starts with not the shortest but with the longest 14:08:40 -!- Koen has joined. 14:10:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzohwKT6TNA 14:10:37 I wish this channel was called #esoteric 14:13:59 so you start not with multiple segments like you saw in my gif but with only one edge (the longest one) and then add vertices one by one into the segment by selecting the vertex with the largest minimal distance to already joined vertices 14:15:11 and if the current part if N long when joining another vertex you consider N+2 variants: attaching to either of ends and breaking into any existing edge 14:15:43 I imagine it should solve the fizzie's case correctly at least 14:15:54 `? #esoteric 14:15:57 ​#esoteric is the only channel that exists. After monqy left it became slightly off-centër. It's a 7-codimensional hyperenchilada about 30 m (100 ft) across. oerjan seems to be making a lawn in the northern part, but it keeps getting dug up by free ranging moons. Currently located in the Atlantis Exclusion Zone. 14:16:45 hahaha 14:17:19 how did it come up with such a brilliant explanation 14:23:49 I've spent a lot of time factorizing numbers in my head -- I believe the bruteforce isn't that bad as it looks like 14:24:33 every prime number has some almost round numbers if you multiply them by something 14:25:10 so you should be able to remember those to quickly subtract or add them from the number you try to divide 14:25:44 I suppose there can be found some effective list of such "subtractors" 14:27:10 \wp hyperenchilada 14:27:14 nothing was found 14:30:09 to find those the process of doing math in head should be somehow modelled to estimate it cost properly 14:30:31 -!- dutch has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3). 14:31:45 -!- dutch has joined. 14:31:46 of course it's still limited to number of such helpful numbers you can remember 14:44:55 -!- joast has joined. 14:51:11 -!- river has joined. 15:29:19 -!- river has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:43:51 -!- delta23 has joined. 15:44:29 -!- src has joined. 15:50:31 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 15:50:31 -!- aarchi has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:52:04 -!- aarchi has joined. 16:10:02 -!- pikhq has joined. 16:21:48 I wonder if the path garaunteed to have no crossings on a plane 16:39:25 https://i.imgur.com/ug7PG8S.mp4 16:39:41 I turned on my drawing screen to draw another counterexample, but my whole computer froze up. 16:40:01 There's some weird nvidia driver bug. :/ 16:45:36 -!- Thelie has joined. 16:59:28 fizzie: that used to happen with my old computer. the integrated intel video card sometimes froze up the whole computer when changing video modes. and it only started right after a debian version upgrade, so I believe it's a driver problem. 17:04:52 Hmm. Yeah, in my case it started after a driver version upgrade, but I *also* changed the monitor setup at the same time, so I don't know which one to blame. 17:07:38 (Always a bad idea to do more than one change at a time.) 17:08:42 you won't know when it's "tested long enough to know it's ok" though 17:08:47 . o O ( never buy a new computer ) 17:11:42 When it hangs, it's just the X process that goes into the D state, and consistently somewhere deep inside the nvidia driver code -- https://0x0.st/-gjD.txt -- so I do think it's most likely an issue with those drivers at least in some sense. I just don't know if it was something introduced in the new version, or always there and just triggered by my change in the way I'm using it. 17:12:15 Been wondering if I should give the open-source `nouveau` driver a try again. 17:12:29 They might have caught up to my no-longer-bleeding-edge hardware maybe. 17:14:47 -!- imode has joined. 17:15:43 Actually, looks like this last hangup was slightly different, it also produced this into dmesg: https://0x0.st/-EfN.txt 17:24:38 -!- Koen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:45:54 -!- Thelie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:48:17 yay, so my idea to order photo shots based on similarity actually work 17:50:02 requests with some hundreds of unordered photos or images are welcome 17:55:10 ~/img$ find . -iname '*.jpg' | wc -l 17:55:12 212592 17:55:14 (Not that I'm about to share them, and they're ordered to some degree anyway.) 17:56:12 is it an image hosting lol 18:01:48 I'll try on MNIST digits 18:05:31 -!- Sgeo has joined. 18:13:48 https://i.imgur.com/IVX4smi.mp4 18:14:00 -!- Koen has joined. 18:20:44 (image distance calculation via IDHash (c)) 18:31:42 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 18:32:06 -!- hendursaga has joined. 18:33:56 [[EXDotSF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88706&oldid=88705 * Rudolph4268 * (-33) Update status for the multi-stack feature 18:38:07 [[EXDotSF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88707&oldid=88706 * Rudolph4268 * (+4) Altered the Cat program heading to link to the article 18:46:10 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Molten * New user account 18:58:02 is there a "brainfuck derivative" that can somehow be interpreted as a derivative of brainfuck? 19:08:38 fancy seeing you here, riv. ;) 19:08:58 :) 19:39:44 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Creatable * New user account 19:44:14 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88708&oldid=88673 * Creatable * (+118) /* Introductions */ 19:44:54 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88709&oldid=88708 * Creatable * (+89) /* Introductions */ 19:45:07 [[Hell.js]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=88710 * Creatable * (+499) Created page with "'''Hell''' is an esoteric subset of the JavaScript programming language that uses JavaScript's built in Proxy feature to run code. Hell code is identical to Java..." 20:01:49 -!- Koen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:24:40 -!- Koen has joined. 20:32:10 -!- Koen has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 21:20:31 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 21:22:10 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 21:38:17 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88711&oldid=88707 * Rudolph4268 * (+671) Added a portion of the new mult-stack commands to the article 21:49:07 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88712&oldid=88711 * Rudolph4268 * (+746) Brought the article up to date with the current spec atm 21:51:42 [[EXDotSF]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88713&oldid=88712 * Rudolph4268 * (+186) Added the Notes and considerations section 21:59:00 [[EXDotSF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88714&oldid=88713 * Rudolph4268 * (+122) Forgot to document the ` command 22:30:42 [[User:Rudolph4268]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88715&oldid=88675 * Rudolph4268 * (+819) Implemented my user page lol 22:31:01 didn't know that around my town there are almost 50'000 of "Urum" people and they speak "Urum language" that isn't even well researched https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urum_language 22:32:15 ethnicity that I've never even heard about but pretty much could saw them 22:32:27 [[User:Rudolph4268]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88716&oldid=88715 * Rudolph4268 * (+24) A little touch-up 22:34:15 descendants of ancient Greeks as I understand 22:34:33 it's insane how much people migrate through the history 22:35:43 if I was there now I would plan a travel to those villages and find some Urums to get to know them better 22:35:54 probably I'm just getting old 22:36:05 being interested in all this historical stuff 23:13:10 [[EXDotSF]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88717&oldid=88714 * Rudolph4268 * (+0) Fixed an error in the documentation 23:34:54 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:44:34 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds).