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03:18:58 <earendel> b_jonas: which modern english word is derived from "paucus"?
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03:54:37 <fizzie> "paucity" at least, I would imagine.
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04:18:29 <fizzie> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paucus#Latin "Descendants: English: pauce (archaic), paucity, paucal"
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06:39:20 <b_jonas> earendel: "few" might be, but I don't need to claim that any one language has words from derived all four, just that each of the four appears in some language. French and Italian together probably covers all four.
06:40:16 <b_jonas> earendel: apparently also "poor" according to dictionary
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06:42:47 <b_jonas> earendel: the point is, French and Italian has *common* words derived from three of them, unlike English
06:42:54 <earendel> oh i that's not how i read you.
06:46:36 <earendel> there's no obligation for any claim here. i was wondering if there could be a distinction for which word was used. i think latin is a much more thought through and structured language as modern ones. with enlish being very inconsistent in what pre and suffixes it uses.
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06:47:58 <earendel> often french heritage then again more german. but with no regularity at all.
06:52:12 <oerjan> b_jonas: apparently both xi and ksi are used in norwegian, too
06:52:36 <oerjan> although ksi is the usual way it would be spelled according to norwegian rules
06:52:50 <earendel> recently i have written down all german prepositions. (i counted 26) .. and then took some basic verb. (like have, run, give etc.. what apes do most time of day) .. combining that prepositions with that verb .. was fun and very insightful. try it. maybe it works in swedish too!
06:57:41 <earendel> etymology .. wait etym true and logos word .. or true meaning .. iirc is entertaining to me. without being educated in that discipline at all. however when i came here to this place 10 years ago .. everyone was about to study linguistics.
06:59:34 <earendel> while i was proposing to move informatics together with pedagogics and social sciences. of course i was absolutely correct :P
07:01:08 <earendel> but also in maths. you have to use language quite excessively in maths and/or theology :)
07:04:47 <earendel> but you should change the name back to #esoteric
07:05:50 <HackEso> Itymology is the science of understanding the true meaning of a statement.
07:07:42 <oerjan> i think it was changed to #esolangs because it's easier to argue that our community _owns_ that name, and so register it as a project
07:08:07 <b_jonas> https://xkcd.com/2549/ => oh wow, a declaration on your personal birthday by the BIPM. that's wild.
07:08:09 <oerjan> the old #esoteric name was pretty much just grandfathered
07:10:31 <oerjan> explainxkcd links to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_aboard_aircraft_and_ships
07:10:57 <oerjan> tldr: it's true that it's complicated
07:13:22 <b_jonas> (of course there's an older and simpler version of this, in Lázár Ervin, "A Négyszögletű Kerek Erdő", "Vacskamati virágja", where Vacskamati declares that her birthday is Tuesday, so that she can celebrate it every Tuesday.)
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15:07:50 <Corbin> Ugh, another joke page that is (I assume intentionally) not marked as a joke page.
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15:20:33 <oren> When is magnus facing nepo again? no game today?
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20:39:02 <fizzie> Hmm. Anyone happen to remember if Burlesque has a single-command way of making a standard input that's a list of lines of integers a block of ints? `lnri` works fine, but is two commands. There are some coercing operations that don't need the explicit conversion, but not for everything. And I can never keep track of all that sp / sh stuff.
20:40:06 <fizzie> Oh, right: `ps` works for that.
20:43:37 <b_jonas> isn't the output always a single integer?
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22:46:28 <int-e> `` (cd /proc; echo */)
22:46:29 <HackEso> 1/ 10/ 11/ 12/ 13/ 14/ 15/ 16/ 18/ 2/ 3/ 4/ 44/ 45/ 48/ 49/ 5/ 50/ 51/ 52/ 6/ 7/ 8/ 9/ bus/ driver/ fs/ irq/ net/ self/ sys/ sysvipc/ thread-self/ tty/
22:48:05 <fizzie> `` ps -o %p # and why exactly is there a difference between o and -o anyway?
22:48:06 <HackEso> PID \ 48 \ 49 \ 50 \ 51 \ 52 \ 53
22:52:45 <int-e> `` PS_FORMAT=%p ps
22:52:46 <HackEso> PID \ 48 \ 49 \ 50 \ 51 \ 52 \ 53
22:54:56 <b_jonas> fizzie: I think ps's crazy interface is from unifying two different legacy brands of ps, one of which takes options without a hyphen, the other with a hyphen
22:55:09 <b_jonas> fizzie: that's why you have silly commands like ps x -H
22:55:26 <b_jonas> fizzie: Advent of Code problems
22:55:29 <int-e> `` PS_PERSONALITY=sgi PS_FORMAT=%p ps
22:55:30 <HackEso> PID \ 48 \ 49 \ 50 \ 51 \ 52 \ 53
22:55:38 <int-e> `` PS_PERSONALITY=sunos4 PS_FORMAT=%p ps
22:56:16 <int-e> ...do you like flexibility...
23:02:07 <shachaf> I do not. I would like less flexibility, please.
23:03:42 <fizzie> b_jonas: The output, but not the input. I was looking for something that'd go from "123\n456\n789\n" to {123 456 789}. Which `ps` did.
23:03:54 <fizzie> (Also sometimes it's a string rather than an integer. But pretty rarely.)
23:08:31 <fizzie> In 2020, there was but one string; in 2019, there were two cases where an Intcode program output a string using a 5x6 pixel bitmap font using '#' and ' ' or '.'; in 2018, there were two plain strings, four cases of comma-separated numbers (3 "a,b"s and one "a,b,c") and one "bitmap"; in 2017 there were 5 strings.
23:20:46 <b_jonas> fizzie: oh! I thought you wanted it backwards
23:21:03 <b_jonas> going from a list of numbers to newline-separated %d decimals
23:25:06 <fizzie> That one I know of (it's `un`), but yeah, that'd be unlikely for AoC.
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