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00:03:32 <zzo38> Actually, I found some information in Perl documentation
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01:58:23 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Hydrazer * New user account
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06:07:19 <int-e> > 2558/(2558+9204)
06:07:20 <lambdabot> 0.21748002040469308
06:08:44 <int-e> `"
06:08:47 <HackEso> 1/1:73) <Warrigal> Making a small shrine to Lawlabee in my basement is something I should get around to at some point. \ 1240) <fizzie> I was watching a pair of otters, and somehow the name "Harry P. Otter" hasn't left my brain since.
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08:14:34 <b_jonas> it's actually "Parry Otter", mentioned specifically in Deathly Hallows chapter 22
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16:01:45 <sprout_> https://github.com/egel-lang/aoc-2021/blob/main/day8/task2.eg <- AoC day 8 task 2. took me around 3 or 4 hours..
16:02:02 <sprout_> I am proud of it so sharing is caring!
16:02:47 <sprout_> it's still a very slow interpreter...
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18:01:25 <b_jonas> fungot: The maid told the butcher boy. The butcher boy told the crowd at the square. Then one of the palace guards overheard. A cat that could play? A mouse that could waltz? Good heavens! The emperor couldn't believe his ears!
18:01:27 <fungot> b_jonas: this is the secretary of fnord members, the hon. member, of the wto, of the house,
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18:24:37 <fizzie> sprout_: It's probably not as slow as my Burlesque solution for day 8 task 2: %PM={jbc{{j!!}j+]m[}Z])><}"v#\\l-jz$~n"XX{**+.2dg<-{}fI}m[s0ln{WD{XX)**97?-}m[S16rzr@{g110.+PMg0=s}fej11.-PM{g0jFi}m[10ug}ms
18:24:40 <fizzie> (Completely unoptimized, just made it work.)
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20:48:52 <sprout_> fizzie: there are only 7! permutations to test so I just construct 7! maps from words to digits and select the correct one. rougly 5040/2 * log 10 = 7500 times some small unknown constant comparisons I think. not a lot of work but slow interpreter
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20:58:28 <sprout_> map is overkill.
20:58:31 <sprout_> ;rl
20:58:34 <sprout_> uh
20:59:09 <sprout_> map is overkill probably for such a small function. lists would have been okay too, and way shorter/easier to construct
21:00:21 <sprout_> I wanted to test the datastructure I created for AoC.
21:02:44 <sprout_> https://github.com/egel-lang/egel/blob/master/include/map.eg <- size balanced binary tree. roughly tries to marry best of most world. O(1) constant access to size, O(log(n)) lookup. Since the size is there I try to balance on that
21:03:15 <sprout_> old idea. no idea whether it works well. seems to work for small trees.
21:06:55 <sprout_> also, don't do to much work balancing of course.
21:07:00 <sprout_> *too
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21:12:00 <fizzie> That's what the Burlesque does too.
21:16:19 <fizzie> 6rzr@ is the 7! permutations of {0 1 2 3 4 5 6}, and the {g110.+PMg0=s}fe finds which permutation, when applied to the first ten words of the line, produces a list that's equal (ignoring order) to the known set of 10 digits (which has been encoded in "v#\\l-jz$~n"). And then the remaining 11.-PM{g0jFi}m[ applies the same permutation to the last 4 words and looks up their indices in the set of
21:16:20 <fizzie> digits.
21:19:07 <int-e> > map S.fromList $ words "abcefg cf acdeg acdfg bcdf abdfg abdefg acf abcdefg abcdfg"
21:19:09 <lambdabot> [fromList "abcefg",fromList "cf",fromList "acdeg",fromList "acdfg",fromList ...
21:19:27 <int-e> . o O ( non-esoteric digits )
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21:26:15 <fizzie> > flip (showIntAtBase 2 intToDigit) "" . (1+) . ord <$> "v#\\l-jz$~n"
21:26:16 <lambdabot> ["1110111","100100","1011101","1101101","101110","1101011","1111011","100101...
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21:27:01 <fizzie> With segments numbered top, top-left, top-right, middle, middle-left, middle-right, bottom, starting from the least significant bit.
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21:31:44 <fizzie> > (fst <$>) . filter snd . zip [0..] . (('1' ==) <$>) . flip (showIntAtBase 2 intToDigit) "" . (1+) . ord <$> "v#\\l-jz$~n" -- more elaborately
21:31:46 <lambdabot> [[0,1,2,4,5,6],[0,3],[0,2,3,4,6],[0,1,3,4,6],[0,2,3,4],[0,1,3,5,6],[0,1,2,3,...
21:33:00 <fizzie> I think I numbered those the wrong way around.
21:33:10 <int-e> > let digits = words "abcefg cf acdeg acdfg bcdf abdfg abdefg acf abcdefg abcdfg" in M.fromListWith (+) [(c,length cs) | cs <- digits, c <- cs] -- hmm, fingerprinting segments?
21:33:11 <lambdabot> fromList [('a',43),('b',34),('c',38),('d',38),('e',24),('f',44),('g',40)]
21:33:21 <int-e> I didn't try to optimize much at all.
21:33:48 <fizzie> Because in the "v#\\l-jz$~n"XX{**+.2dg<-{}fI}m[ there's a <- to reverse before getting indices.
21:35:06 <fizzie> My "actual" solution doesn't do any guesswork, it just straight deduces in order which segment must be which based on knowing which digits are 1, 4, 7 and 8. But that'd almost certainly take more code.
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21:35:38 <int-e> perhaps the most terrible bit I wrote (`m` is the map from 'a'...'g' to the actual segment, also in 'a'...'g'; digits is as above, as sets (sorted lists would've been enough)): map (S.fromList . map (m M.!)) ys >>= (`elemIndices` digits)
21:36:16 <fizzie> (The top segment is the only one in 7 that's not in 1; the top right is the one in 1 that occurs 8 times, and the bottom right's the other one; and so on.)
21:36:30 <int-e> (>>= is shorter than catMaybes)
21:37:29 <int-e> I did something that starts out like this, https://paste.debian.net/1222646/
21:37:41 <int-e> with 8 cases left to check
21:38:32 <sprout_> the whole solution I gave is pretty terrible code. but ah well. got to test the map
21:38:40 <fizzie> My Go thing goes like https://0x0.st/-FPc.txt with really nothing to check. But it's a lot of lines of code.
21:38:40 <int-e> But that was after I submitted the solution which I obtained by complete brute force.
21:39:04 <sprout_> heh
21:39:04 <int-e> > 5040*200
21:39:06 <lambdabot> 1008000
21:39:34 <sprout_> yah 5040/2*2log(10)*small constant
21:40:03 <sprout_> map is overkill for such a small container. only 10 elements. who cares? use a list
21:40:09 <sprout_> but well
21:40:35 <int-e> sprout_: But my template already imports Data.Map.Strict :)
21:40:48 <sprout_> 5040/2*2log(10)*small constant _comparisons_
21:40:56 <int-e> And I am fairly fluent in using it... I'd struggle more with Data.List.lookup stuff :P
21:41:08 <int-e> (doing this in Haskell)
21:41:40 <sprout_> 29 secs in Egel. should be around 300ms for Haskell
21:41:50 <sprout_> I think I am two orders off
21:41:55 <sprout_> dunno
21:42:09 <int-e> 2 seconds, interpreted
21:42:33 <sprout_> for the 7! approach?
21:42:42 <int-e> yeah. 500ms compiled with -O2
21:42:58 <sprout_> one order off is really not bad for my completely unoptimized brain-dead interpreter
21:43:03 <sprout_> oh right
21:43:10 <sprout_> too early...
21:43:15 <sprout_> depression sinks in
21:43:25 <int-e> I didn't optimize a thing.
21:43:38 <sprout_> I mean egel vs ghc
21:44:38 <sprout_> I want to gain one order by rewriting the runtime once and that'll be it. but not sure I'll ever get around to that
21:45:35 <sprout_> the runtime now is a c++ class hierarchy. compact but bit of a silly approach for a rewriter
21:45:55 <sprout_> ah well. kiss. and all that
21:46:49 <int-e> Did anybody else define the digits before realizing that that wasn't needed for part 1
21:47:39 <sprout_> raises hand?
21:48:01 <int-e> (my part 1 solution has this, unused: digits = words "abcefg cf acdeg acdfg bcdf andfg andefg acf abcdefg abcdfg" ...can you spot the typos)
21:48:13 <sprout_> sure. you know you'll end up modelling the problem anyway for part 2
21:48:18 <sprout_> andefg
21:48:59 <int-e> and I did that same thing twice too
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21:59:18 <fizzie> I counted up the part 1 solution without defining digits (or anything else) in a Python repl, just to see part 2 of the description.
21:59:28 <fizzie> Not that there were any surprises.
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22:00:24 <int-e> yeah part 2 was the obvious task for that input... part 1 was the surprising one ;-)
22:00:49 <int-e> "uh we both know where this is headed but let's keep it simple for now"
22:02:04 <fizzie> And of course it makes part 1 in Burlesque a _lot_ shorter. I've currently got ln{WD11.-)L[2 4r@7+]INL[}ms
22:03:21 <fizzie> 2 4r@7+] being slightly shorter than {2 3 4 7}, and IN is nominally set intersection but in practice would seem to do the right thing if one operand has repeated elements.
22:03:50 <int-e> Heh I wrote [2,4,3,7]
22:04:59 <int-e> (which obscures the consecutive 2..4 part)
22:09:01 <int-e> > let digits = words "abcefg cf acdeg acdfg bcdf abdfg abdefg acf abcdefg abcdfg" in [x | [x] <- group (sort (map length digits))]
22:09:03 <lambdabot> [2,3,4,7]
22:12:41 <fizzie> I've got a similar trick in an earlier Burlesque solution where I use 105fC1+] as a shorter way of writing {1 3 5 7}.
22:13:37 <fizzie> It's a shame Burlesque doesn't have builtins for even/odd, otherwise that'd be 7ro:ZZ where ZZ stands for hypothetical `odd?`.
22:14:16 <int-e> that would suggest... 42fC4+] for [4,2,3,7]?
22:14:38 <fizzie> Hmm, I didn't even think of adding the 4 "manually".
22:14:49 <fizzie> I just looked "oh, there's a 4 in it, I can't use that trick".
22:14:56 <fizzie> Even though the other one had that 1.
22:16:25 <fizzie> Yeah, that works, and saves one character.
22:16:53 <int-e> and adds an accidental cultural reference
22:16:59 <int-e> win-win-win
22:17:12 <fizzie> It also gets rid of a space, which is nice, because spaces look ugly in Burlesque chunks.
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22:32:24 <esolangs> [[QKAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90529&oldid=70970 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+358) Amended some orthographic mistakes, improved the formatting, and remarked that the GitHub repository files have not been archived.
22:36:22 <esolangs> [[QKAS]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90530&oldid=90529 * Kaveh Yousefi * (+1882) Added an implementation of QKAS in Common Lisp.
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22:51:33 <esolangs> [[Labra]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90531&oldid=90511 * DoggyDogWhirl * (+80) Fixed Hello, world! program
22:53:30 <esolangs> [[Labra]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90532&oldid=90531 * DoggyDogWhirl * (+0) Fixed Fibonacci program
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23:33:25 <esolangs> [[APOL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90533&oldid=90525 * GingerIndustries * (+51) /* Example */
23:34:00 <esolangs> [[APOL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90534&oldid=90533 * GingerIndustries * (+29)
23:35:12 <esolangs> [[APOL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=90535&oldid=90534 * GingerIndustries * (+103) /* Instruction table */
23:52:15 <int-e> > nub " space sex "
23:52:16 <lambdabot> " spacex"
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