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00:06:39 <zzo38> Yes, it is Christmas today (in the time zone I am in, anyways). Yule was a few days ago (in the north hemisphere); I don't know when is Hanukkah, etc.
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00:13:42 <zzo38> (Note: I mean the days only; of course things continue along other days too e.g. twelve days of Christmas.)
00:14:30 <zzo38> (Also, where I am, it snows today.)
00:17:19 <Melvar> fizzie: Regarding `ie`, I’m guessing what you’re saying is that you usually have the condition floating around but the branches are specific to the current position in the code, which means that in a stack lang you want the condition underneath the branches?
00:18:13 <Melvar> And likewise in a pervasively curried lang you want the condition as the last argument.
00:18:40 <fizzie> Yeah. I usually use it in the context of mapping over something, so the condition (or whatever becomes the condition) is the only thing on the stack already, and the code blocks needs to be pushed onto it.
00:20:37 <fizzie> `blsq 8ro{{"odd"}j{"even"}j2.%ie}m[
00:20:39 <HackEso> {"odd" "even" "odd" "even" "odd" "even" "odd" "even"}
00:21:46 <Melvar> > map (bool "odd" "even" . even) [1..8]
00:21:48 <lambdabot> ["odd","even","odd","even","odd","even","odd","even"]
00:22:10 <fizzie> Also, even outside the context of a m[, the standard input is already on the stack when the program start, and that's where all values that could be usable as conditions are fundamentally derived from.
00:22:29 <fizzie> Well, for programs that work on input, anyway.
00:25:27 <Melvar> I just find it interesting how different kinds of languages may have similar pressures for how to order arguments, even though the results of those pressures are different.
00:27:02 <fizzie> For the record, there is a relative of `ie` that has the arguments the other way around, `ch` (choose), but it doesn't evaluate the block it chooses.
00:27:08 <fizzie> `blsq 8ro{2.%{"odd""even"}ch}m[ "this could've been like this though"vv
00:27:09 <HackEso> {"odd" "even" "odd" "even" "odd" "even" "odd" "even"}
00:28:04 <Melvar> In this case the basic pressure is that the arg that is most likely to vary in a single source-level call should be the one that is easiest to pass implicitly.
00:28:04 <fizzie> But if I want the blocks to do something more than just push one element on stack, the extra {}s and extra e! takes up more characters than the two `j`s that saves.
00:28:48 <Melvar> With different results because “easiest to pass implicitly” means different things in these languages.
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11:40:52 <riv> did you see the lisp evaluator made in game of life?
11:41:07 <riv> when I saw that I thought Golly! that's impressive
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16:01:59 <b_jonas> in case anyone's lost on NASA's webpage among the "blogs" and image mosaics and videos, the actual informative page about JWST is at https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/about/faqs/faq.html
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